LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico

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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2025 em: Agosto 12, 2015, 03:12:05 pm »
Para mim e creio que para muitos o HNLMS Rotterdam é melhor do que o Galicia e também considero que seja mais fácil de se vender do que o espanhol.





 

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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2026 em: Agosto 12, 2015, 07:08:20 pm »
Como as coisas estão, até os ferryboats da Transtejo marchavam  :mrgreen:
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2027 em: Agosto 12, 2015, 07:53:30 pm »
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Como as coisas estão, até os ferryboats da Transtejo marchavam  c34x  :mrgreen:  :twisted:


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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2028 em: Agosto 13, 2015, 07:12:44 pm »
olha que isso, pintado de verde-vómito, já impunha respeito... :twisted:
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2029 em: Agosto 13, 2015, 09:25:12 pm »
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olha que isso, pintado de verde-vómito, já impunha respeito... :wink:  :mrgreen:
Ai de ti Lusitânia, que dominarás em todas as nações...
 
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2030 em: Agosto 13, 2015, 11:18:11 pm »
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olha que isso, pintado de verde-vómito, já impunha respeito... :twisted:

Qual é a autonomia disso? Dá para fazer um assalto às Berlengas?
 
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2031 em: Agosto 13, 2015, 11:55:40 pm »
Desde que dê para fazer o desembarque anual em Pinheiro da Cruz serve...
https://www.youtube.com/user/HSMW/videos

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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2032 em: Agosto 14, 2015, 10:34:58 am »
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olha que isso, pintado de verde-vómito, já impunha respeito... :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :twisted:




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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2033 em: Agosto 14, 2015, 11:33:13 am »
Temos de ter uma plataforma para varios Helis!!

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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2034 em: Agosto 14, 2015, 12:51:11 pm »
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/bobhopeclass/
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The ships are operated by 30 civilian mariners who work for a private company under contract to MSC and up to 50 embarked military personnel who monitor and maintain the equipment being transported.
The ships are maintained in reduced operational status, which means they are operationally ready in four days. The primary mission of the Bob Hope Class LMSRs is to transport shore-based combat equipment and supplies to US forces overseas in support of wartime and humanitarian operations.
Operational service of USNS Bob Hope has included the delivery of equipment to the Balkans and to Iraq. The USNS Bob Hope was deployed to deliver equipment for peacekeeping operations in Kosovo in 1999. The ship arrived at the deep sea port in Thessaloniki in northern Greece on 29 June 1999, just six days after departing from Bremerhaven, bringing 119 shipping containers and 1,345 individual items of equipment. The discharge of its cargo, including M1 Abrams tanks, was completed by 1 July 1999 for forward transportation by land to Skopje, Macedonia and then on to Kosovo.
Six of the Bob Hope Class ships have delivered tanks, fighting vehicles and other supplies needed by the US Army in Operation Iraqi Freedom. By July 2003, the USNS Bob Hope had been deployed for 81 days in the Arabian Gulf and had transported 38,912t of gear including combat gear in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and water purifiers and construction equipment to help in the rebuilding of Iraq.

Cargo

The Bob Hope Class ships have 318,000ft²of cargo space plus 70,000ft²of deck cargo space. The ship is capable of carrying up to 1,000 wheeled and tracked military vehicles and other cargo.
The ship has a stern slewing ramp and side access areas for fast and easy roll-on roll-off operation. It is also fitted with two twin cranes rated at 55t for fast and efficient lift-on and lift-off.
Propulsion

The Bob Hope Class ships are powered by four Colt Pielstick 10 PC4.2 V diesel engines generating 47.89MW. The engines drive two shafts with controllable pitch propellers. The adjustable blade pitch allows the ship to sail at optimum fuel efficiency for the varied speed, loads and sea states.
The fast response to the control and direction of thrust contributes to high manoeuvrability which is useful for moving in ports and in berthing where docking tugs may not be available.





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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2035 em: Agosto 14, 2015, 01:15:49 pm »
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http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/bobhopeclass/
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The ships are operated by 30 civilian mariners who work for a private company under contract to MSC and up to 50 embarked military personnel who monitor and maintain the equipment being transported.
The ships are maintained in reduced operational status, which means they are operationally ready in four days. The primary mission of the Bob Hope Class LMSRs is to transport shore-based combat equipment and supplies to US forces overseas in support of wartime and humanitarian operations.
Operational service of USNS Bob Hope has included the delivery of equipment to the Balkans and to Iraq. The USNS Bob Hope was deployed to deliver equipment for peacekeeping operations in Kosovo in 1999. The ship arrived at the deep sea port in Thessaloniki in northern Greece on 29 June 1999, just six days after departing from Bremerhaven, bringing 119 shipping containers and 1,345 individual items of equipment. The discharge of its cargo, including M1 Abrams tanks, was completed by 1 July 1999 for forward transportation by land to Skopje, Macedonia and then on to Kosovo.
Six of the Bob Hope Class ships have delivered tanks, fighting vehicles and other supplies needed by the US Army in Operation Iraqi Freedom. By July 2003, the USNS Bob Hope had been deployed for 81 days in the Arabian Gulf and had transported 38,912t of gear including combat gear in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and water purifiers and construction equipment to help in the rebuilding of Iraq.

Cargo

The Bob Hope Class ships have 318,000ft²of cargo space plus 70,000ft²of deck cargo space. The ship is capable of carrying up to 1,000 wheeled and tracked military vehicles and other cargo.
The ship has a stern slewing ramp and side access areas for fast and easy roll-on roll-off operation. It is also fitted with two twin cranes rated at 55t for fast and efficient lift-on and lift-off.
Propulsion

The Bob Hope Class ships are powered by four Colt Pielstick 10 PC4.2 V diesel engines generating 47.89MW. The engines drive two shafts with controllable pitch propellers. The adjustable blade pitch allows the ship to sail at optimum fuel efficiency for the varied speed, loads and sea states.
The fast response to the control and direction of thrust contributes to high manoeuvrability which is useful for moving in ports and in berthing where docking tugs may not be available.





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Esse navio não afunda e não permite o uso directo de lanchas e veiculos amfibios!! Precisa de um porto para largar a carga o que o torna um meroo transportador.
Depois, o Convés não é propriamente um convès de voo...
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2036 em: Agosto 14, 2015, 02:56:31 pm »
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Esse navio não afunda e não permite o uso directo de lanchas e veiculos amfibios!! Precisa de um porto para largar a carga o que o torna um meroo transportador.
Depois, o Convés não é propriamente um convès de voo...
Não necessariamente.






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U.S. Marines with Charlie Company, 2nd Assault Amphibian Battalion, 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit disembark from the container and roll-on/roll-off ship USNS 1st LT Jack Lummus (T-AK 3011) as part of a maritime preposition force training evolution during exercise Cobra Gold 2011 in the Gulf of Thailand on Jan. 23, 2011.http://www.defense.gov/photos/newsphoto.aspx?newsphotoid=13701
Correcto. O deck de aterragem é civil, mas nada que não se pudesse alterar. O maior problema é mesmo o preço, já que o mais barato da classe custou novo 195 milhões de USD (ainda assim não chegava aos 230 milhões de Euros planificados para o NAVPOL) .  :shock:
 
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LMSRs can carry an entire U.S. Army Task Force, including 58 tanks, 48 other track vehicles, plus more than 900 trucks and other wheeled vehicles. The ship carries vehicles and equipment to support humanitarian missions, as well as combat missions. The new construction vessels have a cargo carrying capacity of more than 380,000 square feet, equivalent to almost eight football fields. In addition, LMSRs have a slewing stern ramp and a removable ramp which services two side ports making it easy to drive vehicles on and off the ship. Interior ramps between decks ease traffic flow once cargo is loaded aboard ship. Two 110-ton single pedestal twin cranes make it possible to load and unload cargo where shoreside infrastructure is limited or nonexistent. A commercial helicopter deck was added for emergency, daytime landing.

http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/takr-300.htm



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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2037 em: Agosto 14, 2015, 03:04:41 pm »
Ok.
É aquele que mostrei, custa quanto?
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2038 em: Agosto 14, 2015, 03:13:02 pm »
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Ok.
É aquele que mostrei, custa quanto?
134,9 Milhões USD.  :wink:
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Both Lewis B. Puller and its unnamed sister ship (MLP-4) will differ significantly from the U.S. Navy's first two Mobile Landing Platform support vessels, the Montford Point and John Glenn. These two ships facilitate the 'seabasing' of an amphibious landing force by acting as a floating base or transfer station that can be prepositioned off the target area.[13]

The Lewis B. Puller and MLP-4 will serve as afloat forward staging bases (AFSB) to support special operations missions, counter-piracy/smuggling operations, maritime security operations, and mine clearance, as well as humanitarian aid and disaster relief missions. AFSB vessels are designed to support low-intensity missions, allowing more expensive, high-value amphibious warfare ships and surface combatant warships to be re-tasked for more demanding operational missions for the U.S. Navy.[3] These AFSB variants are slated to operate in the Middle East and the Pacific Ocean.[10]

As an MLP, the Lewis B. Puller will be operated by the Military Sealift Command. Consequently, the ship will not be formally commissioned into the U.S. Navy, and consequently, its designation prefix will be "USNS."[13] The crew will consist of civilian mariners under contract with U.S. maritime unions. When completed in 2015, the USNS Lewis B. Puller is slated to replace the USS Ponce, the U.S. Navy's interim AFSB support ship.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Lewis_B._Puller_(T-MLP-3/T-AFSB-1)



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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #2039 em: Agosto 14, 2015, 04:27:09 pm »
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Ok.
É aquele que mostrei, custa quanto?
134,9 Milhões USD.  :wink:
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Both Lewis B. Puller and its unnamed sister ship (MLP-4) will differ significantly from the U.S. Navy's first two Mobile Landing Platform support vessels, the Montford Point and John Glenn. These two ships facilitate the 'seabasing' of an amphibious landing force by acting as a floating base or transfer station that can be prepositioned off the target area.[13]

The Lewis B. Puller and MLP-4 will serve as afloat forward staging bases (AFSB) to support special operations missions, counter-piracy/smuggling operations, maritime security operations, and mine clearance, as well as humanitarian aid and disaster relief missions. AFSB vessels are designed to support low-intensity missions, allowing more expensive, high-value amphibious warfare ships and surface combatant warships to be re-tasked for more demanding operational missions for the U.S. Navy.[3] These AFSB variants are slated to operate in the Middle East and the Pacific Ocean.[10]

As an MLP, the Lewis B. Puller will be operated by the Military Sealift Command. Consequently, the ship will not be formally commissioned into the U.S. Navy, and consequently, its designation prefix will be "USNS."[13] The crew will consist of civilian mariners under contract with U.S. maritime unions. When completed in 2015, the USNS Lewis B. Puller is slated to replace the USS Ponce, the U.S. Navy's interim AFSB support ship.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Lewis_B._Puller_(T-MLP-3/T-AFSB-1)



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Muito mais economico e muito mais polivalente!! eheh

Estes navios tem e o problema de terem de ser bem escoltados porque nao me parece que possuam qualquer capacidade de defesa!! E se quisessemos isso teriamos de gastar muito dinheiro no que realmente e importante!!
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