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Força Aérea Portuguesa / Re: F-35A Lightning II na FAP
« Última mensagem por Duarte em Hoje às 05:05:15 pm »
Os outros países já as divulgaram? Se já, isso não serve de desculpa
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Here’s the clearest, citation‑based picture of what EU countries have **publicly revealed** so far about their planned **SAFE (Security Action for Europe)** defence purchases — based strictly on the information in your search results.
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# 🇪🇺 **Have EU countries revealed their SAFE programme purchases?**
**Yes — but only partially.**
According to the reporting, **only about ten EU countries** have publicly shared details of their SAFE loan requests or procurement intentions.
Most governments are still keeping specifics confidential, but several have disclosed **either the size of their request or the general categories of equipment** they intend to buy.
Below is what is publicly known.
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# 🟦 **Countries that have revealed SAFE plans (based on available reporting)**
## **1. Poland**
- **Largest beneficiary** with **€43.7 billion** allocated.
- Intended for **urgent procurement** and **long‑term industrial capacity**.
- While the article does not list exact systems, Poland’s ongoing procurement priorities include air defence, artillery, and armoured systems — but these are *not* explicitly confirmed in the SAFE reporting.
**[Poland’s large SAFE allocation](guide://action?prefill=Tell%20me%20more%20about%3A%20Poland%E2%80%99s%20large%20SAFE%20allocation)**
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## **2. Belgium**
- Could borrow **up to €8.34 billion** under SAFE.
- Intended for **strategic arms purchases**, but **no specific systems** were disclosed.
**[Belgium’s SAFE borrowing plan](guide://action?prefill=Tell%20me%20more%20about%3A%20Belgium%E2%80%99s%20SAFE%20borrowing%20plan)**
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## **3. Other EU countries (unnamed in detail)**
According to Euractiv, **ten countries** have either publicly shared their proposals or provided details to the outlet, with combined bids between **€100.86–€109.92 billion**.
However, the article does **not** list the specific countries or the exact systems they plan to buy.
**[Countries sharing SAFE proposals](guide://action?prefill=Tell%20me%20more%20about%3A%20Countries%20sharing%20SAFE%20proposals)**
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# 🟩 **What the EU itself has revealed**
The European Commission states that SAFE will fund:
- **Urgent defence procurement**
- **Major capability gaps**
- **Large‑scale purchases**
- **Industrial capacity expansion**
But it does **not** list specific weapon systems or national shopping lists.
**[SAFE programme purpose](guide://action?prefill=Tell%20me%20more%20about%3A%20SAFE%20programme%20purpose)**
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# 🟥 **Bottom line**
- **Yes**, some EU countries have revealed **loan amounts** and **general intentions**.
- **No**, most have **not** publicly disclosed specific weapon systems yet.
- The only concrete numbers available are **allocations** (e.g., Poland €43.7B, Belgium €8.34B).
- The **exact purchases** remain mostly confidential or not yet finalized.
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Conflitos do Presente / Re: Invasão da Ucrânia
« Última mensagem por Apone em Hoje às 04:57:18 pm »25
Conflitos do Presente / Re: Invasão da Ucrânia
« Última mensagem por MMaria em Hoje às 02:06:47 pm »Zelenskyy floats terms for peace plan, signaling possible withdrawal from eastern Ukraine
The Donbas region — the majority of which is currently occupied by Moscow’s troops — would be turned into a demilitarized “free economic zone” under the plan.
https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-floats-terms-peace-plan-signaling-possible-withdrawal-eastern-ukraine/
The Donbas region — the majority of which is currently occupied by Moscow’s troops — would be turned into a demilitarized “free economic zone” under the plan.
https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-floats-terms-peace-plan-signaling-possible-withdrawal-eastern-ukraine/
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Portugal / Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Última mensagem por PTWolf em Hoje às 01:58:39 pm »
Portugal to Spend $145 Million on Ukrainian-Made Defense Products
https://thedefensepost.com/2025/12/23/portugal-ukrainian-defense-products/
Iremos comprar o quê, drones?
Muito provavelmente. Os Ucranianos devem ser dos mais evoluidos neste momento
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Marinha Portuguesa / Re: Novos SSK da Marinha
« Última mensagem por PTWolf em Hoje às 01:57:56 pm »O Japão pediu para entrar..
Boas noticias. E assim, simultaneamente vai-se formando (de forma subtil) um novo bloco
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Força Aérea Portuguesa / Re: Eventos/Exposições/Visitas
« Última mensagem por goncalobmartins em Hoje às 01:20:03 pm »
Foram pontuais pela Grande Lisboa, segundo acabaram de me dizer.
Foram, sim senhor mas vê-los está quieto... Eu vivo na Estrela e só os ouvi ao longe. Penso que terão sobrevoado a Baixa/Chiado...
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Marinha Portuguesa / Re: Substituição das Fragatas Classe Vasco da Gama
« Última mensagem por Cabeça de Martelo em Hoje às 12:51:57 pm »Tenho 5 segundos, a mulher já está a chamar para eu trocar o papel das azevias.
Feliz Natal para todos.
Que o Pai Natal traga uma Fremm Evo, F35/Eurofighter/ Boxer para cada elemento do fórum.
Ah, e um Tesla para o P44, que o coitado tem um fascinio por VE que só eu é que sei.
Feliz Natal para todos.
Que o Pai Natal traga uma Fremm Evo, F35/Eurofighter/ Boxer para cada elemento do fórum.
Ah, e um Tesla para o P44, que o coitado tem um fascinio por VE que só eu é que sei.
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Área Livre-Outras Temáticas de Defesa / Re: A música que vos vai no coração
« Última mensagem por P44 em Hoje às 12:18:37 pm »Continuando na mesma onda ⛄🌲

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