MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses

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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #240 em: Setembro 11, 2013, 03:48:12 pm »
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Salvo erro não houve qualquer tipo de upgrade à excepção do que referiu mas a marinha pretende manter os Mk-95 em serviço até 2030 (http://www.janes.com/article/10578/portugal-faces-longevity-battle-with-naval-lynx-helicopters)

http://www.the-grey-lynx.com/10_portugal/version_history_po.htm

Em 2030, após 37 anos de serviço? Querem tentar alcançar o recorde do Alouette III?  :arrow: http://www.agustawestland.com/product/super-lynx-300-0
 :arrow: http://www.agustawestland.com/sites/def ... ynx300.pdf





(Peço desculpa pelo off-topic)
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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #241 em: Janeiro 08, 2014, 10:42:30 am »
Ainda que não constitua uma vontade expressa de modernização das fragatas e aquisição do ESSM, fica a referência.

Despacho n.º 310/2014. D.R. n.º 5, Série II de 2014-01-08
Ministério da Defesa Nacional - Gabinete do Ministro
Aprovação e delegação do MoU Cooperative Engineering & Manufacturing development of the Evolved Seasparrow Block 2

http://dre.pt/pdf2sdip/2014/01/005000000/0045500455.pdf
 

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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #242 em: Janeiro 08, 2014, 11:10:58 am »
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Ainda que não constitua uma vontade expressa de modernização das fragatas e aquisição do ESSM, fica a referência.

Despacho n.º 310/2014. D.R. n.º 5, Série II de 2014-01-08
Ministério da Defesa Nacional - Gabinete do Ministro
Aprovação e delegação do MoU Cooperative Engineering & Manufacturing development of the Evolved Seasparrow Block 2

http://dre.pt/pdf2sdip/2014/01/005000000/0045500455.pdf

Já vi que no ministério o importante é não haver despesas, ou resto pouco interessa!
"Que todo o mundo seja «Portugal», isto é, que no mundo toda a gente se comporte como têm comportado os portugueses na história"
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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #243 em: Janeiro 26, 2014, 10:10:16 pm »
Se não for este o tópico peço desculpa, mas este projecto pode ser interessante para a marinha, uma vez que este projecto nem é muito caro.

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A Itália pretende comprar até oito fragatas multifuncionais na próxima década. O objetivo final é comprar até 12 navios. As novas fragatas irão substituir as atuais fragatas em operação que devem dar baixa na próxima década.

O conceito básico é de um navio com um canhão de 127mm na proa e um de 76mm na popa, hangar para dois helicópteros NH90 e lançadores verticais para mísseis superfície-ar Aster 30, com opção de levar o míssil cruise Scalp Naval. Cada uma deve custar 350 milhões de Euros. A Itália já confirmou a compra da sétima e oitava fragata FREMM de 10 planejadas.

http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2014/01/25/novas-fragatas-italianas/
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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #244 em: Janeiro 26, 2014, 10:18:13 pm »
O tópico sobre a Marinha Italiana é este
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4281&p=239999#p239999
 

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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #245 em: Janeiro 27, 2014, 10:33:57 am »
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O tópico sobre a Marinha Italiana é este
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4281&p=239999#p239999

Quando postei esta noticia no forum era mais para indicar um navio que pode substituir as actuais fragatas
"Que todo o mundo seja «Portugal», isto é, que no mundo toda a gente se comporte como têm comportado os portugueses na história"
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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #246 em: Janeiro 29, 2014, 03:54:07 am »
Citação de: "nelson38899"
Citação de: "Lightning"
O tópico sobre a Marinha Italiana é este
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4281&p=239999#p239999

Quando postei esta noticia no forum era mais para indicar um navio que pode substituir as actuais fragatas

Tive vários anos embarcado nas fragatas classe Vasco da Gama, e naveguei com todo o tipo de fragatas destryoers etc estrangeiros...e digo que as VDG não lhes ficam atrás...são navios muito versáteis...Portugal basta realizar o MLU e fica com uma frota moderna com excelentes navios mais que suficientes para a realidade do país.
 

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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #247 em: Abril 15, 2014, 05:45:36 pm »
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General Dynamics Canada to Provide Sonar System Upgrades to Portuguese Navy
Upgrades will significantly improve Portugal's ability to detect and localize potential threats on or under the surface of the water

OTTAWA, Ontario, April 14, 2014 /CNW/ - General Dynamics Canada is installing an adjunct processing system on three VASCO DA GAMA-class frigates of the Portuguese Navy. Designed by General Dynamics Canada, the ECLIPSE adjunct processor provides the in-service AN/SQS-510 sonar systems with enhanced operational capability to detect submarines and torpedoes.

"General Dynamics Canada has a 40-year history of providing and supporting underwater systems and components to navies around the world. As the original designer and manufacturer of the AN/SQS-510 hull-mounted sonar system, we are pleased to bring new capabilities to this valuable and trusted system," says David Ibbetson, vice president, General Dynamics C4 Systems International.

The ECLIPSE processing system will work in parallel with the AN/SQS-510, leveraging the data collected from the existing sonar system. The addition of the ECLIPSE processing system will significantly improve the ability to detect and characterize echoes and sounds transmitted through the water to determine location and physical characteristics of potential threats.

In addition, ECLIPSE provides new ways of displaying the processed sonar information, with greater detail in a simplified format that allows operators to detect contacts earlier, and with more clarity than before. The information is displayed on new, state-of-the-art high-resolution flat panel monitors. The system also provides enhanced capabilities for training as well as record and replay of acoustic data. All of these improvements are installed without enlarging the footprint or weight of the system in the ship, or increasing the number of sonar operators.

The AN/SQS-510 medium-frequency hull-mounted sonar is currently in service on all twelve Royal Canadian Navy HALIFAX-class patrol frigates and three IROQUOIS-class destroyers. The system is also in use in ships of the Portuguese and Bulgarian navies.

General Dynamics Canada is part of General Dynamics C4 Systems, a business unit of General Dynamics (NYSE: GD). For information about General Dynamics Canada please go to http://www.gdcanada.com.

SOURCE General Dynamics Canada

http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-201 ... 07304.html
 
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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #248 em: Abril 16, 2014, 01:03:27 pm »
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General Dynamics Canada to Provide Sonar System Upgrades to Portuguese Navy
Upgrades will significantly improve Portugal's ability to detect and localize potential threats on or under the surface of the water

OTTAWA, Ontario, April 14, 2014 /CNW/ - General Dynamics Canada is installing an adjunct processing system on three VASCO DA GAMA-class frigates of the Portuguese Navy. Designed by General Dynamics Canada, the ECLIPSE adjunct processor provides the in-service AN/SQS-510 sonar systems with enhanced operational capability to detect submarines and torpedoes.

"General Dynamics Canada has a 40-year history of providing and supporting underwater systems and components to navies around the world. As the original designer and manufacturer of the AN/SQS-510 hull-mounted sonar system, we are pleased to bring new capabilities to this valuable and trusted system," says David Ibbetson, vice president, General Dynamics C4 Systems International.

The ECLIPSE processing system will work in parallel with the AN/SQS-510, leveraging the data collected from the existing sonar system. The addition of the ECLIPSE processing system will significantly improve the ability to detect and characterize echoes and sounds transmitted through the water to determine location and physical characteristics of potential threats.

In addition, ECLIPSE provides new ways of displaying the processed sonar information, with greater detail in a simplified format that allows operators to detect contacts earlier, and with more clarity than before. The information is displayed on new, state-of-the-art high-resolution flat panel monitors. The system also provides enhanced capabilities for training as well as record and replay of acoustic data. All of these improvements are installed without enlarging the footprint or weight of the system in the ship, or increasing the number of sonar operators.

The AN/SQS-510 medium-frequency hull-mounted sonar is currently in service on all twelve Royal Canadian Navy HALIFAX-class patrol frigates and three IROQUOIS-class destroyers. The system is also in use in ships of the Portuguese and Bulgarian navies.

General Dynamics Canada is part of General Dynamics C4 Systems, a business unit of General Dynamics (NYSE: GD). For information about General Dynamics Canada please go to http://www.gdcanada.com.

SOURCE General Dynamics Canada

http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-201 ... 07304.html

Parecem ser boas noticias! Agora vamos ver se será o inicio de algo mais...
Obrigado Menacho pela noticia! :)
 

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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #249 em: Maio 06, 2014, 07:27:49 pm »
Cumprimentos,
 

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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #250 em: Maio 06, 2014, 09:12:39 pm »
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Da Jane's


http://www.janes.com/article/37375/gene ... e-frigates

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he Portuguese Navy is to modernise the AN/SQS-510 hull-mounted medium-range sonar system, equipping its three MEKO 200PN Vasco de Gama-class frigates in what is the latest in a series of incremental upgrades for the class.

Under a contract awarded in early April, General Dynamics Canada is to install its Eclipse adjunct processor to provide an enhanced capability to detect submarines and torpedoes. Work is scheduled to be complete by 31 March 2015.

According to General Dynamics Canada, the Eclipse processing system will work in parallel with the AN/SQS-510, leveraging the data collected from the existing sonar system. The adjunct processor will significantly improve the ability to detect and characterise echoes and sounds transmitted through the water to determine location and physical characteristics of potential threats.

In addition, Eclipse provides new ways of displaying the processed sonar information, with greater detail in a simplified format that allows operators to detect contacts earlier, and with more clarity than before. The system also provides enhanced capabilities for training, as well as record and replay of acoustic data. All of these improvements are embodied without enlarging the footprint or weight of the system in the ship, or increasing the number of sonar operators.

Built in Germany by what is now ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems, NRP Vasco da Gama (F 330), NRP Álvares Cabral (F 331), and NRP Corte Real (F 332) all entered service in 1991. Previous upgrades have included the modernisation of the Mk 15 Phalanx close-in weapon system to Block 1B standard; installation of a Sagem Vigy 10 Mk III day/night surveillance system; embodiment of the indigenous SINGRAR battle management and decision support system; introduction of a Saab R4 AIS transponder and OSI Maritime Systems warship electronic chart display and information system; and updates to the communications suite, including the EID MOST4 ship automatic message handling system, and new HF transceivers from EID and Rohde & Schwarz.

Despite continuing financial constraints, the Portuguese Navy is continuing to pursue plans for a more comprehensive mid-life upgrade. This would entail replacing the Signaal SEWACO 70PO combat management system, STACOS weapon control system, and NAUTOS propulsion control suite; switching out the Creusot-Loire 100 mm/55 Mod 68 CADAM gun for an OTO Melara 76mm/62 system; installing a new integrated platform management system and 3D radar; and upgrading the RGM-84 Harpoon Block 1 anti-ship missile system.

Replacement of RIM-7P NATO SeaSparrow Missile surface-to-air capability is also an aspiration, although this may be difficult in the short to medium term. Portugal recently signed the Memorandum of Understanding for the Co-operative Engineering and Manufacturing Development of the Evolved SeaSparrow Missile Block 2, although it is not in a position to contribute funds.
"Que todo o mundo seja «Portugal», isto é, que no mundo toda a gente se comporte como têm comportado os portugueses na história"
Agostinho da Silva
 

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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #251 em: Maio 24, 2014, 10:49:16 am »


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Sabia que?
Faz hoje 23 anos que a Fragata Álvares Cabral foi aumentada ao efetivo da Marinha, a 24 de maio de 1991.

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https://www.youtube.com/user/HSMW/videos

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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #252 em: Junho 20, 2014, 02:41:44 pm »
Modernização do equipamento de comunicações

http://dre.pt/pdf2sdip/2014/06/117000000/1609916100.pdf
 

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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #253 em: Junho 20, 2014, 04:33:09 pm »
Onze rádios UHF?

Sobre o modo de transmissão com saltos de frequência HAVE QUICK

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HAVE QUICK was well adopted, and in 2007 nearly all U.S. military aircraft as well as those of NATO use it. Improvements include HAVE QUICK II Phase 2, and a "Second generation Anti-Jam Tactical UHF Radio for NATO" called SATURN. The latter features more complex frequency hopping.

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HAVE QUICK    
Frequency Hopping System

HAVE QUICK is the codename of an American Frequency Hopping system. It is used for the protection of military UHF radio traffic, such as air-to-air and ground-to-air communications in the 225-400 MHz band. It was introduced in 1980 as an Electronic Counter Counter-Measure (ECCM) after it became clear in the 1970s that aircraft communication could easily be intercepted and jammed by a third party with inexpensive means.

As most of the radios used in aircraft communication were already synthesizer-based, it was relatively easy to add frequency hopping to it. As of 2007, nearly all US military aircraft use HAVE QUICK frequency hopping. HAVE QUICK was later improved to HAVE QUICK II and is now in use by both the US and the UK. HAVE QUICK II is also used by the Second generation Anti-jamming Tactical UHF Radio for Nato (SATURN).
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Re: MLU às VdG e/ou BD - Hipóteses
« Responder #254 em: Junho 21, 2014, 05:14:09 pm »
Caro HSMW, no despacho refere ambas as classes de fragatas da Marinha. Ou seja, cinco navios. Cada fragata deve levar, pelo menos, dois rádios e o décimo-primeiro rádio dever ser para sobresselente ou treino. My two cents.
« Última modificação: Junho 24, 2014, 10:21:18 pm por NVF »
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