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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1320 em: Setembro 17, 2024, 01:53:26 pm »
Só o esforço de ter uma cadeia de logística para um caça e formar tanto pilotos como técnicos/mecânicos é já um esforço astronómico para quem operou caças soviéticos durante décadas e está agora a receber uma nova aeronave.

Não consigo vos estar a explicar de forma concisa o tamanho desse esforço e o tempo que demora; especialmente estando em guerra.

É que eles até podem conseguir pessoal suficiente para enviar para o estrangeiro para receber formação e treino, mas e depois como vai ser quando voltarem e for hora para operar e ganhar experiência no terreno? Como vai ser para gerir stocks de sobresselentes e armamento? Especialmente quando têm de ter cuidado para manter tudo secreto para não levarem com um míssil, drone ou até mesmo um míssil balístico em cima?

É que em tempo de paz é tudo muito bonito, mas em tempo de guerra é outra coisa.

Olhem só a FAP que recebeu os primeiros UH-60 ano passado e só lá para 2026 é que vão estar capacitados de executar missões de combate aos incêndios.

A Ucrânia prefere 100 F-16M do que andar a variar o fornecedor de caças... A SAAB quer promover o JAS, daí a pressão.
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Os suecos podem sempre é mostrar ao resto da NATO e da Europa como se faz. Pintem os Gripen deles e mandem para lá o pessoal deles com os caças para os operar. Fazem uma missão especial como os russos.

Atenção que eu não sou contra o Gripen. Até acho que o Gripen tem vantagens em termos de manutenção e operação para os ucranianos face ao F-16. Só que é como os outros diziam, a quantidade tem uma certa qualidade. Existem mais operadores de F-16, existem mais F-16 prontos a serem doados e existe obviamente uma cadeia de logística e até formação/treino maior para o F-16.

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Toda a gente percebe isso tirando alguns que estão a ver a vida a andar para trás porque não conseguem impingir o seu caça hiper mega fudereitor a ninguém  ;)
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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1321 em: Setembro 19, 2024, 10:01:12 am »
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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1322 em: Setembro 20, 2024, 10:12:03 pm »
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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1323 em: Outubro 06, 2024, 07:25:10 am »
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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1324 em: Outubro 06, 2024, 08:38:08 am »

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Sweden publishes video of "Pansarbandvagn 302" APCs being sent to Ukraine.

These vehicles are comparable to the M-113 and  were retired in the year 2000 and placed in reserve.

A guerra da sucata  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1325 em: Outubro 08, 2024, 11:52:13 am »

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Sweden publishes video of "Pansarbandvagn 302" APCs being sent to Ukraine.

These vehicles are comparable to the M-113 and  were retired in the year 2000 and placed in reserve.

A guerra da sucata  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

É um pouco isso mesmo, afinal eu nunca esperei que em pleno século 21 a Rússia voltasse a operar T55!

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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1326 em: Outubro 08, 2024, 03:53:43 pm »

É um pouco isso mesmo, afinal eu nunca esperei que em pleno século 21 a Rússia voltasse a operar T55!


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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1327 em: Outubro 08, 2024, 08:19:30 pm »
 

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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1328 em: Outubro 08, 2024, 10:30:26 pm »






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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1329 em: Outubro 23, 2024, 06:55:08 pm »
South Korea mulls F-16 training for Ukrainian pilots amidst North Korean troop deployments to Russia
(23 de Outubro de 2024)
Citação de: alert5
South Korea is contemplating a major shift in policy by providing lethal weapons to Ukraine, including the prospect of training Ukrainian pilots on F-16s, either in South Korea or by South Korean instructors. This potential move is a direct response to North Korea's increasing military support for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, a development that has raised considerable concern in Seoul.

South Korean President Yoon Suk-yeol has previously stated that South Korea's willingness to provide lethal aid would be contingent on the extent of military cooperation between Russia and North Korea. Recent intelligence reports, however, suggest that this cooperation has reached a new level. South Korea's National Intelligence Service (NIS) has confirmed that North Korea has already started sending troops to fight alongside Russian forces in Ukraine.

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This growing military partnership between Pyongyang and Moscow has alarmed Seoul, prompting the consideration of defensive military aid for Ukraine. Ukraine has specifically requested the KM-SAM Block 2 ("Korean Patriot"), a sophisticated air defence system designed to counter missile and air attacks. With Ukraine facing constant missile barrages and air raids, the need for effective air defence systems is critical. South Korea is recognised as a leading developer and producer of advanced missile and aircraft interception systems, making it a crucial potential supplier for Ukraine.

In addition to the KM-SAM Block 2, South Korea is also considering providing other air defence systems, such as the KM-SAM Block 1 and KP-SAM. Ukraine has also requested various types of drones, including those with jamming capabilities and jamming-resistant models, as well as portable anti-drone guns.

The provision of lethal weaponry is also under consideration, with the potential list including the K2 Black Panther tank, the K9 Thunder self-propelled howitzer, the K239 Chunmoo multiple rocket launcher, and the KTSSM (Korean Tactical Surface-to-Surface Missile). The K2 and K9 systems, already in service with the South Korean military, could be rapidly produced and delivered if approved. South Korea has also previously provided 500,000 rounds of 155mm ammunition to the United States, which were subsequently transferred to Ukraine. While the provision of the KTSSM is deemed feasible without violating international agreements, longer-range missiles like the Hyunmoo-5 could face restrictions.

South Korea is also exploring the deployment of small teams of specialists to Ukraine, comprising intelligence and tactical experts, to monitor the situation and respond to North Korea's growing involvement. This deployment would not constitute a full-scale military operation and would not require parliamentary approval.

The potential decision to provide lethal aid to Ukraine marks a significant turning point for South Korea. It underscores Seoul's growing concern over North Korea's military alliance with Russia and its commitment to supporting Ukraine's defence. This decision could have substantial repercussions for South Korea's relationships with Russia, North Korea, and the wider international community. The possibility of training Ukrainian pilots on F-16s, similar to the training previously provided for the K9 howitzer, could be a valuable contribution, given Ukraine's shortage of trained pilots despite receiving F-16 fighter jets from Western allies in August. However, current production commitments to other nations, such as the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq, could pose challenges to the immediate availability of certain weapons systems.
Fonte: https://alert5.com/2024/10/23/south-korea-mulls-f-16-training-for-ukrainian-pilots-amidst-north-korean-troop-deployments-to-russia/

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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1330 em: Novembro 15, 2024, 09:45:26 am »
Militares franceses treinam tropas ucranianas que se vão juntar à guerra contra a Rússia


 

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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1331 em: Novembro 28, 2024, 09:13:47 am »
Swedish Gripen jets don’t 'make sense' for Ukraine yet, Dutch defense chief says
(27 de Novembro de 2024)
Citação de: Breaking Defense
While Sweden stands ready to send its Gripen fighters to Ukraine, the head of a key ally's military said that move "doesn't make sense for me," at least not yet.

"In the long term, yes, [but] I think we have to avoid [giving] too many systems to Ukraine, because they have a shortage of pilots," Chief of Defence of the Netherlands Gen. Onno Eichelsheim told Breaking Defense. "So you have to avoid that you have more systems than pilots. Somewhere in the balance, you have to look at what capabilities are needed at this moment."

In July the Netherlands, Denmark and the US announced they were in the process of donating F-16s from Dutch and Danish stocks to Ukraine. The US has flatly rejected calls to give current American systems, but agreed to allow other nations to provide their US-made jets.

Eichelsheim, speaking on the sidelines of the Halifax International Security Forum last weekend, said that since F-16s are already available, introducing "French fighters and Swedish fighters … doesn't make sense for me." (French President Emmanuel Macron said in June that Paris planned to send some of its Mirages to Ukraine as well.)

Eichelsheim said it's better to "focus" on the capabilities the Ukrainians currently have. "So get them ready on these aircrafts, and provide them with the weapons, the money, the logistics, the parts that are available around the world to get these aircraft up and running continuously."

The Dutch official's comments clarify remarks from Swedish Defense Minister Pål Jonson, who said last week that Stockholm was ready and willing to donate Gripens to Ukraine but had been advised not to.

"The donation of the Gripens is not in the hands of ourselves," Jonson said, suggesting at the time that other actors in the international coalition dedicated to Ukraine's air force, predominantly Denmark, the Netherlands and the United States, wanted to make sure Ukraine is settled with the F-16 before introducing other complex technologies into the ecosystem.

"They have advised us to wait to donate the Gripen until it goes further with the F-16 as well," Jonson said.

Deliveries of the fourth-generation aircraft, dating back to July, represent a major potential uplift in capability for Ukraine, which has been largely relying on Soviet-era MiG-29 and Su-27 combat jets to counter Russia's invasion, though officials and experts have said it won't be a silver bullet.

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Fonte: https://breakingdefense.com/2024/11/swedish-fighters-dont-make-sense-for-ukraine-yet-dutch-defense-chief-says/

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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1332 em: Dezembro 25, 2024, 06:35:31 pm »
Vídeo no Twitter/X: https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1871766648635728321

Citação de: @Osinttechnical
New footage of a Portuguese-donated Ka-32A11BC utility helicopter in Ukrainian service conducting operations in Kyiv.

Portugal donated six inoperative units earlier this year, and Ukrainian engineers appear to have restored at least one to flying condition.

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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1333 em: Janeiro 04, 2025, 08:02:24 pm »
France sends first batch of Mirage jets to Ukraine
(4 de Janeiro de 2025)
Citação de: Defence Blog
The first batch of French Mirage 2000-5 fighter jets is set to arrive in Ukraine by January 20, 2025, according to reports from Avions Legendaires.

The initial batch is expected to include three to six aircraft, which will likely replace Ukraine's aging fleet of Su-24 bombers.

These Mirage 2000-5 jets, originally part of the French Air and Space Force inventory, have been retrofitted with advanced capabilities by France’s Directorate General of Armaments (DGA). Designed primarily as interceptors, the modified jets are now equipped to carry and deploy SCALP-EG and Storm Shadow cruise missiles, both of which are currently in Ukraine's arsenal.

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Fonte: https://defence-blog.com/france-sends-first-batch-of-mirage-jets-to-ukraine/

Les Dassault Aviation Mirage 2000-5F arriveront ce mois-ci en Ukraine.
(3 de Janeiro de 2025)
Citação de: Avions Legendaires
Alors que la Russie intensifie ses frappes aériennes contre les cibles civiles en Ukraine le compte à rebours entre Kyïv et Paris a été lancé. C’est en effet en ce mois de janvier 2025 que la Povitryani Syly Zbroynykh Syl Ukrayiny doit réceptionner ses trois premiers avions de chasse Dassault Aviation Mirage 2000-5F. Ces chasseurs, prélevés sur les stocks de l’Armée de l’Air et de l’Espace, ont été modifiés avec l’aide de la DGA afin d’être bien plus que les intercepteurs qu’ils sont actuellement. À terme une dizaine d’avions de ce type portera les marquages de l’Ukraine.

Ils sont le fruit de longues tractations entre Emmanuel Macron et Volodymyr Zelensky. Les présidents français et ukrainiens ont fait du Mirage 2000-5F un des marqueurs de l’aide militaires de notre pays, comme avant lui le canon Caesar ou encore les chars AMX-10RC. À la différence de ces derniers où la formation des personnels ukrainiens n’a pris que quelques semaines il a fallu plusieurs mois pour que les pilotes de la PSZ-SU apprennent à manœuvre de chasseur monoplace à aile delta. Avec lui on est bien loin des Mikoyan MiG-29 Fulcrum, Sukhoi Su-24 Fencer, Su-25 Frogfoot, et surtout Su-27 Flanker encore en dotation en Ukraine. Si le Mirage 2000-5F peut apparaître au départ comme un chasseur petit et léger vis-à-vis des Fulcrum et Flanker les pilotes ukrainiens ont rapidement compris que c’est aussi un redoutable avion conçu pour aller au contact de l’ennemi.

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Fonte: https://www.avionslegendaires.net/2025/01/actu/les-dassault-aviation-mirage-2000-5f-arriveront-ce-mois-ci-en-ukraine/

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Re: Equipamento a oferecer à Ucrânia
« Responder #1334 em: Janeiro 04, 2025, 09:39:05 pm »




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According to French media via AvionLegendaries.fr, the first Mirage2000 in the 5F version are expected to arrive in Ukraine in January this year.
The Ukrainian Air Force will receive three French fighters in January. They will be taken from the resources of the French Air and Space Force.
Ultimately, Ukraine receive about 10 Mirage fighters. The images below are of course only graphics
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