Ora Boa noite Forum agradecer a minha promocao prometo que irei manter sempre ao Corrente das coisas por aqui...muito bem hoje mais uma vez estou aqui a ver que embora o KC390 seja um aviao novo recentissimo ja andam por aqui a por em causa os motores kkkkkk eh pah sinceramente o F-16 ja tem Motor desde 1975 ou 1976 sei la ainda anda por ai as curvas …..o c 130 a mais de 40 anos que voa com o mesmo tipo de Motor e tipo enfim….nao se atrapalhem que caso o KC precise de outro tipo de Motor tambem ira por tem la muito espaco nas asas kkkkkkk aquele abraxo pah
Epá os motores dos 390 que não são mais que os motores dos primeiros 320, este modelo de turbina já existe há 30 anos !V2500-A1First entered service with Adria Airways. V2533-A5A fourth booster stage was introduced into the engine basic configuration to increase core flow. This, together with a fan diameter and airflow increase, helped to increase the thrust to 33,000 lbf (147 kN) thrust, to meet the requirements of the larger Airbus A321-200.[7] The vast majority of V2500s are A5. The maintenance, repair, and operations market for V2500 is close to US$3 billion as of 2015.[8] Derated versionsA number of derated, Stage 4 noise compliant engines have been produced from the -A5 configuration, including: • The 23,500 lbf (105 kN) thrust V2524-A5 for the Airbus A319• The 27,000 lbf (120 kN) thrust V2527-A5 for the Airbus A320• The 25,000 lbf (110 kN) thrust V2525-D5 for the McDonnell Douglas MD-90-30. Engine Turbine and Accessory on the side instead of bottom to accommodate lateral mounting. Also has an option in the cockpit to add 3,000 pounds (13 kN) additional thrust for "hot and high" conditions• The 33,000 lbf (150 kN) thrust V2533-A5 for the Airbus A321• The 31,330 lbf (139.4 kN) thrust V2531-E5 for the Embraer KC-390V2500SelectOneOn October 10, 2005, IAE announced the launch of the V2500Select—later called V2500SelectOne—with a sale to IndiGo Airlines to power 100 A320 series aircraft. The V2500SelectOne is a combination performance improvement package and aftermarket agreement. In February 2009, Pratt & Whitney upgraded the first V2500-A5 to the SelectOne Retrofit standard; the engine was owned by US Airways and had been in use since 1998. V2500SelectTwoOn March 15, 2011, IAE announced an upgrade option of V2500 SelectOne Engines to the SelectTwo Program.[9] It offers reduced fuel consumption due to a software-upgrade and Reduced Ground Idle (RGI),[10] and is available since 2014 for the V2500-A5 variants. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAE_V2500#V2500-A1Engines[edit]Acft model Certification date Engines A318-111 23 May 2003 CFM56-5B8/P A318-112 23 May 2003 CFM56-5B9/P A318-121 21 December 2005 PW6122A A318-122 21 December 2005 PW6124A A319-111 10 April 1996 CFM56-5B5 or 5B5/P A319-112 10 April 1996 CFM56-5B6 or 5B6/P or 5B6/2P A319-113 31 May 1996 CFM56-5A4 or 5A4/F A319-114 31 May 1996 CFM56-5A5 or 5A5/F A319-115 30 July 1999 CFM56-5B7 or 5B7/P A319-131 18 December 1996 IAE Model V2522-A5 A319-132 18 December 1996 IAE Model V2524-A5 A319-133 30 July 1999 IAE Model V2527M-A5 A320-111 26 February 1988 CFM56-5A1 or 5A1/F A320-211 8 November 1988 CFM56-5A1 or 5A1/F A320-212 20 November 1990 CFM56-5A3 A320-214 10 March 1995 CFM56-5B4 or 5B4/P or 5B4/2P A320-215 22 June 2006 CFM56-5B5 A320-216 14 June 2006 CFM56-5B6 A320-231 20 April 1989 IAE Model V2500-A1 A320-232 28 September 1993 IAE Model V2527-A5 A320-233 12 June 1996 IAE Model V2527E-A5 A321-111 27 May 1995 CFM56-5B1 or 5B1/P or 5B1/2P A321-112 15 February 1995 CFM56-5B2 or 5B2/P A321-131 17 December 1993 IAE Model V2530-A5 A321-211 20 March 1997 CFM56-5B3 or 5B3/P or 5B3/2P A321-212 31 August 2001 CFM56-5B1 or 5B1/P or 5B1/2P A321-213 31 August 2001 CFM56-5B2 or 5B2/P A321-231 20 March 1997 IAE Model V2533-A5 A321-232 31 August 2001 IAE Model V2530-A5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A320_familyAbraços
O único comentário que se me oferece aqui colocar é que para um modelo de aeronave novo em folha vamos colocar-lhe turbinas desenhadas há mais de trinta anos ??Vai ser mais uma boa escolha, sem dúvida.Citação de: tenente em Julho 12, 2019, 06:54:39 pmEpá os motores dos 390 que não são mais que os motores dos primeiros 320, este modelo de turbina já existe há 30 anos !V2500-A1First entered service with Adria Airways. V2533-A5A fourth booster stage was introduced into the engine basic configuration to increase core flow. This, together with a fan diameter and airflow increase, helped to increase the thrust to 33,000 lbf (147 kN) thrust, to meet the requirements of the larger Airbus A321-200.[7] The vast majority of V2500s are A5. The maintenance, repair, and operations market for V2500 is close to US$3 billion as of 2015.[8] Derated versionsA number of derated, Stage 4 noise compliant engines have been produced from the -A5 configuration, including: • The 23,500 lbf (105 kN) thrust V2524-A5 for the Airbus A319• The 27,000 lbf (120 kN) thrust V2527-A5 for the Airbus A320• The 25,000 lbf (110 kN) thrust V2525-D5 for the McDonnell Douglas MD-90-30. Engine Turbine and Accessory on the side instead of bottom to accommodate lateral mounting. Also has an option in the cockpit to add 3,000 pounds (13 kN) additional thrust for "hot and high" conditions• The 33,000 lbf (150 kN) thrust V2533-A5 for the Airbus A321• The 31,330 lbf (139.4 kN) thrust V2531-E5 for the Embraer KC-390V2500SelectOneOn October 10, 2005, IAE announced the launch of the V2500Select—later called V2500SelectOne—with a sale to IndiGo Airlines to power 100 A320 series aircraft. The V2500SelectOne is a combination performance improvement package and aftermarket agreement. In February 2009, Pratt & Whitney upgraded the first V2500-A5 to the SelectOne Retrofit standard; the engine was owned by US Airways and had been in use since 1998. V2500SelectTwoOn March 15, 2011, IAE announced an upgrade option of V2500 SelectOne Engines to the SelectTwo Program.[9] It offers reduced fuel consumption due to a software-upgrade and Reduced Ground Idle (RGI),[10] and is available since 2014 for the V2500-A5 variants. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAE_V2500#V2500-A1Engines[edit]Acft model Certification date Engines A318-111 23 May 2003 CFM56-5B8/P A318-112 23 May 2003 CFM56-5B9/P A318-121 21 December 2005 PW6122A A318-122 21 December 2005 PW6124A A319-111 10 April 1996 CFM56-5B5 or 5B5/P A319-112 10 April 1996 CFM56-5B6 or 5B6/P or 5B6/2P A319-113 31 May 1996 CFM56-5A4 or 5A4/F A319-114 31 May 1996 CFM56-5A5 or 5A5/F A319-115 30 July 1999 CFM56-5B7 or 5B7/P A319-131 18 December 1996 IAE Model V2522-A5 A319-132 18 December 1996 IAE Model V2524-A5 A319-133 30 July 1999 IAE Model V2527M-A5 A320-111 26 February 1988 CFM56-5A1 or 5A1/F A320-211 8 November 1988 CFM56-5A1 or 5A1/F A320-212 20 November 1990 CFM56-5A3 A320-214 10 March 1995 CFM56-5B4 or 5B4/P or 5B4/2P A320-215 22 June 2006 CFM56-5B5 A320-216 14 June 2006 CFM56-5B6 A320-231 20 April 1989 IAE Model V2500-A1 A320-232 28 September 1993 IAE Model V2527-A5 A320-233 12 June 1996 IAE Model V2527E-A5 A321-111 27 May 1995 CFM56-5B1 or 5B1/P or 5B1/2P A321-112 15 February 1995 CFM56-5B2 or 5B2/P A321-131 17 December 1993 IAE Model V2530-A5 A321-211 20 March 1997 CFM56-5B3 or 5B3/P or 5B3/2P A321-212 31 August 2001 CFM56-5B1 or 5B1/P or 5B1/2P A321-213 31 August 2001 CFM56-5B2 or 5B2/P A321-231 20 March 1997 IAE Model V2533-A5 A321-232 31 August 2001 IAE Model V2530-A5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A320_familyAbraçosAbraços
....nao se atrapalhem que caso o KC precise de outro tipo de Motor tambem ira por tem la muito espaco nas asas kkkkkkk aquele abraxo pah
O outro vector é a escolha de um motor internacional, que não limite a venda do KC-390 a países que os EUA não queiram ou onde preferissem que estes comprassem o C-130J. Grande parte do KC-390 foi pensado para fugir a veto dos EUA a venda da aeronave.
Citação de: luis simoes em Maio 26, 2020, 12:21:08 am....nao se atrapalhem que caso o KC precise de outro tipo de Motor tambem ira por tem la muito espaco nas asas kkkkkkk aquele abraxo pahE o desenvolvimento e integração desse(s) novo(s) motor(es) na aeronave é você que paga? Nem sei porque me dou ao trabalho de responder. Citação de: Red Baron em Maio 26, 2020, 11:11:22 amO outro vector é a escolha de um motor internacional, que não limite a venda do KC-390 a países que os EUA não queiram ou onde preferissem que estes comprassem o C-130J. Grande parte do KC-390 foi pensado para fugir a veto dos EUA a venda da aeronave.Para poderem meter a China como parceira após o bye-bye da Boeing e vender o "KáCê" à Venezuela e Coreia do Norte?
É para não acontecer como aconteceu com o A-29, que quando era vendido directamente pela Embraer foi impedida a venda porque a Nigéria violava os direitos humanos, quando foi vendido pela Sierra Nevada a Nigéria já não violava os direitos humanos.
https://www.meta-defense.fr/pt/2020/04/28/transporte-e-reabastecimento-de-aeronaves-em-voo-c-390-mil%C3%AAnio-poderia-sobreviver-ao-div%C3%B3rcio-boeing-embraer/
xiiiii,,,,e Agora afinal a Boeing vai manter tudo que tinha acordado com a Embraer xiiiii….afinal a Boeing sabe o que quer e meus caros sejam contra sejam a favor o KC sera um bom aviao,,,,,e sera tambem um digno sucessor do C 130H...