LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico

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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1740 em: Maio 13, 2015, 12:52:17 am »
Também não vamos receber as antigas...
 

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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1741 em: Maio 13, 2015, 05:06:12 am »
Perante tanta eloquência, só resta presentear Vossa Excelência com uma vénia...
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1742 em: Maio 13, 2015, 06:06:21 pm »
Comunicação por satelite da Marinha Francesa!  
    Système satellite Syracuse


 
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Syracuse (French: Système de Radiocommunication utilisant un satellite, satellite based radiocommunication system) is a series of French military communications satellites.
 

  Logico que não recebemos essas!
 

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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1743 em: Maio 15, 2015, 10:57:46 pm »
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El último cambio de gabinete realizado por la Presidenta de Chile, Michelle Bachelet, podría significar un impulso a la compra del navío anfibio multipropósito francés TCD Siroco. El ex Ministro de Defensa, Jorge Burgos,  afirmó hace poco a un medio local que haría un gran esfuerzo por materializar esta compra y aseguró que ya estaba en trámite la adquisición de helicópteros adecuado para fines militares y de ayuda en emergencias. Estas declaraciones fueron efectuadas por Burgos durante una visita a las fuerzas militares que se encontraban desplegadas en el norte de Chile en tareas de apoyo a los habitantes damnificados por los aluviones y crecidas de ríos, una de las emergencias que ha debido enfrentar Chile este último año y en cuya ocasión la necesidad de  helicópteros se hizo evidente cuando las autoridades, periodistas y ayuda de todo tipo que fueron transportados desde la zona central hasta el aeropuerto local quedaron largas horas bloqueados allí debido a que los caminos estaban cortados.

http://defensa.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15647:el-cambio-de-gabinete-realizado-por-michelle-bachelet-puede-significar-un-impulso-a-la-compra-del-buque-frances-siroco&catid=55:latinoamerica&Itemid=163
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1744 em: Maio 16, 2015, 08:09:24 pm »
Neste momento o governo frances nao consegue vender os 2 Mistral que deviam ir para a Russia, e ainda por cima vao ter de pagar aos russos.

Portugal podia negociar o Mistral pelo preço do Siroco.

A marinha francesa ja tem 3 Navios e recusaram incorporar outros 2, peritos chegaram ao ponto de propor a destruiçao pura e simples de esses 2 navios para poupar despesas de manutençao. :mrgreen:
 

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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1745 em: Maio 16, 2015, 08:31:52 pm »
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Portugal podia negociar o Mistral pelo preço do Siroco.
Não digam isso nem a brincar!!  

Realmente dava para receber muitos Alouettes! :twisted:

Mas acredito que os franceses facilmente consigam vender os 2 Mistral.
Porque se por pressão da NATO não se concretizou os negócio com os russos, com uma ajuda também se arranja um ou dois compradores.
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1746 em: Maio 16, 2015, 08:38:16 pm »
Nao estou a brincar :idea:

E fui proposto a destruiçao dos 2 mistral.

Nao posso dizer mais nada.
 

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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1747 em: Maio 16, 2015, 08:50:53 pm »
France considering scuttling Mistral aircraft carriers rather than agree to sell the vessels to Russia because of sanctions brought in over Ukraine

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French government may sink the two warships if Russian sale falls through
    Contract is currently on ice amid pressure from America and the EU not to deliver the vessels to Moscow due to the Ukraine conflict
    But if Putin cancels the deal, France would be reluctant to spend millions converting them for its own navy
    If it cannot find a third-party buyer, the ships are expected to be scuttled


France has revealed it is considering sinking two brand new state-of-the-art warships if a deal to sell them both to Russia collapses under pressure from America and the EU.

The French government is supposed to have received a payment of €1.12 billion from Moscow for the vessels, but the transfer has been postponed amid tensions over the conflict in Ukraine.

With questions raised over whether the agreement will ever be rekindled, it has now been claimed that France would rather scuttle the warships rather than pay to keep them operational.

As it stands France looks set to lose hundreds of millions of euros on the deal if it cannot convince the US and America to allow it to go ahead, or if Russian President Vladimir Putin loses patience and cancels the contract altogether.

Details of France's potential scuttling of the vessels were revealed by an unnamed officer familiar with the Russian warship deal.

'Among the possible course of actions which is being considered by the French government is the possibility of the helicopter ships being destroyed. They will be dismantled, remodeled or sunk in the open sea,' French newspaper Le Figaro wrote today after speaking with the officer.

The first vessel, the Vladivostok, should have been handed over to Russia in November but French President Francois Hollande has revealed it has now been postponed 'until further notice'.

The cost of adapting the helicopter carriers for use by the French navy is expected to run in to hundreds of millions of pounds, leaving a third party sale the only realistic option.

Le Figaro identified 'Canada, a northern country and Egypt' as possible buyers.

For its part Russia has previously said it would not oppose a sale to a third party but - according to state-funded broadcaster Russia Today - Putin has also demanded France pay out €300 million in compensation for non delivery on the contract.

The news comes as France secured a number of buyers for its Dassault-built Rafale fighter jets, with a total of 84 sales will give the French economy a multi-billion euro boost

Global appetite for the jets has surged as a result of the United States' diminishing influence in the Arab world along with wider security concerns over the rise of Islamic State insurgents - which Paris is more than happy to assuage. Egypt, India and Qatar have all just signed contracts.

'Good things always come in four,' Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius quipped to reporters on the jet taking President Francois Hollande to the Gulf this week to sign the Qatar deal and make a rare guest appearance by a Westerner at a regional summit there.

After signing deals worth some 15 billion euros for a total of 84 aircraft, France now has the United Arab Emirates in its sights for dozens more purchases that are a much-needed boost to jobs at home, where unemployment is stuck at a high 10 percent.

'Above all, this is good news for the French economy,' Hollande said in Doha of the fruits of his 'economic diplomacy' policy, which has turned Fabius and Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian into France's top travelling salesmen.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3070579/France-considering-scuttling-Mistral-aircraft-carriers-agree-sell-vessels-Russia-sanctions-brought-Ukraine.html
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1748 em: Maio 16, 2015, 08:55:50 pm »
France may sell to China naval ships built for Russia

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During the course of a visit by the French Navy to Shanghai between May 9-15, France may try to sell its Mistral-class amphibious assault ship to China, according to Duowei News, an overseas new outlet run by overseas Chinese.

The official microblog of the PLA Navy said that the French task force visiting China consists of two warships including the Dixmude, a Mistral-class amphibious assault ship, and Aconit, a La Fayette-class frigate. Dixmude is the third and last Mistral-class vessel designed for the French navy. It is the first time for a Mistral-class amphibious assault ship to visit a Chinese port.

Russia signed a contract with France to purchase two Mistral-class amphibious assault ships but the deal was scuttled due to sanctions imposed over the Ukraine crisis, even though construction of both vessels — named the Vladivostok and, fittingly if ironically, Sevastopol — had been completed.

The French Navy is unlikely to commission the two new ships and one option choice would be to try to sell them to other potential buyers including Brazil, Canada, China, Egypt or India. Even though China already has plans to develop its own amphibious assault ship, the country may still purchase the Vladivostok and Sevastopol as models to copy.



http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclass-cnt.aspx?id=20150510000011&cid=1101
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1749 em: Maio 16, 2015, 09:02:12 pm »
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Nao estou a brincar :shock:  :shock:
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1750 em: Maio 16, 2015, 09:40:51 pm »
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France considering scuttling Mistral aircraft carriers rather than agree to sell the vessels to Russia because of sanctions brought in over Ukraine

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French government may sink the two warships if Russian sale falls through
    Contract is currently on ice amid pressure from America and the EU not to deliver the vessels to Moscow due to the Ukraine conflict
    But if Putin cancels the deal, France would be reluctant to spend millions converting them for its own navy
    If it cannot find a third-party buyer, the ships are expected to be scuttled


France has revealed it is considering sinking two brand new state-of-the-art warships if a deal to sell them both to Russia collapses under pressure from America and the EU.

The French government is supposed to have received a payment of €1.12 billion from Moscow for the vessels, but the transfer has been postponed amid tensions over the conflict in Ukraine.

With questions raised over whether the agreement will ever be rekindled, it has now been claimed that France would rather scuttle the warships rather than pay to keep them operational.

As it stands France looks set to lose hundreds of millions of euros on the deal if it cannot convince the US and America to allow it to go ahead, or if Russian President Vladimir Putin loses patience and cancels the contract altogether.

Details of France's potential scuttling of the vessels were revealed by an unnamed officer familiar with the Russian warship deal.

'Among the possible course of actions which is being considered by the French government is the possibility of the helicopter ships being destroyed. They will be dismantled, remodeled or sunk in the open sea,' French newspaper Le Figaro wrote today after speaking with the officer.

The first vessel, the Vladivostok, should have been handed over to Russia in November but French President Francois Hollande has revealed it has now been postponed 'until further notice'.

The cost of adapting the helicopter carriers for use by the French navy is expected to run in to hundreds of millions of pounds, leaving a third party sale the only realistic option.

Le Figaro identified 'Canada, a northern country and Egypt' as possible buyers.

For its part Russia has previously said it would not oppose a sale to a third party but - according to state-funded broadcaster Russia Today - Putin has also demanded France pay out €300 million in compensation for non delivery on the contract.

The news comes as France secured a number of buyers for its Dassault-built Rafale fighter jets, with a total of 84 sales will give the French economy a multi-billion euro boost

Global appetite for the jets has surged as a result of the United States' diminishing influence in the Arab world along with wider security concerns over the rise of Islamic State insurgents - which Paris is more than happy to assuage. Egypt, India and Qatar have all just signed contracts.

'Good things always come in four,' Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius quipped to reporters on the jet taking President Francois Hollande to the Gulf this week to sign the Qatar deal and make a rare guest appearance by a Westerner at a regional summit there.

After signing deals worth some 15 billion euros for a total of 84 aircraft, France now has the United Arab Emirates in its sights for dozens more purchases that are a much-needed boost to jobs at home, where unemployment is stuck at a high 10 percent.

'Above all, this is good news for the French economy,' Hollande said in Doha of the fruits of his 'economic diplomacy' policy, which has turned Fabius and Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian into France's top travelling salesmen.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3070579/France-considering-scuttling-Mistral-aircraft-carriers-agree-sell-vessels-Russia-sanctions-brought-Ukraine.html



Isso é mais uma das balelas do Hollande, assim de cabeça encontro dois ou três marinhas asiáticas que deveriam mostrar interesse: Índia, Taiwan e China.
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1751 em: Maio 16, 2015, 09:43:51 pm »
Não se metam com o Miguel senão ele ainda começa a escrever em francês! :D

O Canadá também já esteve interessado nesses dois Mistral que eram para a Rússia ou foi notícia de treta na altura?

Cumprimentos,
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1752 em: Maio 16, 2015, 11:37:17 pm »
Já se tá a ver o filme....

-A Franca devolve o dinheiro á Russia...
-A Russia secretamentre faz uns arranjos com a China, dá o dinehiro á China e umas promessas quaisqueres pro futuro...
-A China compra os navios...
-A China estuda os navios pra copiar ou aprender alguma coisa....
-A China entrega os navios á Russia...
 
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1753 em: Maio 17, 2015, 01:31:03 pm »
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Já se tá a ver o filme....

-A Franca devolve o dinheiro á Russia...
-A Russia secretamentre faz uns arranjos com a China, dá o dinehiro á China e umas promessas quaisqueres pro futuro...
-A China compra os navios...
-A China estuda os navios pra copiar ou aprender alguma coisa....
-A China entrega os navios á Russia...

Pensei no mesmo.
E acrescento: com o acordo da França.
Ai de ti Lusitânia, que dominarás em todas as nações...
 
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Re: LPD- Navio Polivalente Logístico
« Responder #1754 em: Maio 17, 2015, 05:35:59 pm »
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Citação de: "César"
Já se tá a ver o filme....

-A Franca devolve o dinheiro á Russia...
-A Russia secretamentre faz uns arranjos com a China, dá o dinehiro á China e umas promessas quaisqueres pro futuro...
-A China compra os navios...
-A China estuda os navios pra copiar ou aprender alguma coisa....
-A China entrega os navios á Russia...

Pensei no mesmo.
E acrescento: com o acordo da França.
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