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« Responder #315 em: Junho 27, 2004, 02:58:24 pm »
Ah! Já me esquecia! Então sempre tomou o Prozac?  :wink:
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« Responder #316 em: Junho 27, 2004, 04:22:22 pm »
Caro Ricardo:

Negativo, terá que se contentar com a minha intuição...  Afinal, quem é o profeta ? :) Mas, o argumento "a quem aproveita o crime" não costuma falhar...além de que os sionistas são mestres em terrorismo, desde os tempos da Hagganh, Irgun e Stern... Que o digam os ingleses que até enforcaram alguns...por terrorismo...

E, depois,  é impossível obter uma confirmação da Mossad. Eles nem sequer confirmam o que toda a gente já sabe há 40 anos: que eles têm AMD'S...

P.S. Para o  Prozac , é melhor dirigir-se ao seu amigo "somebody"... a não ser que ele já tenha engolido os comprimidos todos. Há mais de 24 horas que se acalmou...
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« Responder #317 em: Junho 27, 2004, 04:41:18 pm »
Europatriota, o nosso Querido Líder!
Europatriota, o Profeta da Luz!
Europatriota, o Filho Consubstancial ao Pai!
Kant é nosso Pai e Europatriota o seu Profeta!

- Europatriota o Akbar!!!

 :Bajular:  :Bajular:  :Bajular:  :Bajular:
Ai de ti Lusitânia, que dominarás em todas as nações...
 

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« Responder #318 em: Junho 27, 2004, 04:44:58 pm »
"Agora mais a sério:
Caro europatriota, ainda estou à espera que me apresente as provas em que baseou as suas afirmações. Ou devo confiar simplesmente na sua intuição?  
Não me parece algo viável."

Ricardo, oh Jovem vibrante e viril!!
Tem fé!
O Paraíso está à tua frente! Não rejeites Kant e Europatriota - o seu profeta!

- Kant o Akbar!
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« Responder #319 em: Junho 27, 2004, 04:56:02 pm »
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Negativo, terá que se contentar com a minha intuição...  


Então peço desculpa pois não considero a sua intuição uma verdade universal. Tento reger-me por factos concretos nas opiniões que emito, não em intuições.
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« Responder #320 em: Junho 27, 2004, 05:00:17 pm »
Ricardo, deixa-te guiar pela Luz!
Ai de ti Lusitânia, que dominarás em todas as nações...
 

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« Responder #321 em: Junho 27, 2004, 05:28:38 pm »
Citação de: "Luso"
Ricardo, deixa-te guiar pela Luz!


 :lol:
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« Responder #322 em: Junho 27, 2004, 06:55:10 pm »
É muito mais fácil enganar uma pessoa, que explicar-lhe que foi enganada ...
Contra a Estupidez, não temos defesa
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« Responder #323 em: Junho 27, 2004, 07:55:46 pm »
LOL
Este papatango  :lol:  :lol:  :twisted:  :twisted:
"History is always written by who wins the war..."
 

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« Responder #324 em: Junho 27, 2004, 09:01:21 pm »
Caro papatango, 5 estrelas.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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« Responder #325 em: Junho 27, 2004, 09:24:10 pm »
Esse número é o da semana passada...
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« Responder #326 em: Junho 27, 2004, 11:10:27 pm »
Caro Papatango:

Tenho de reconhecer que você é um artista e tem muita imaginação.
Cumprimentos
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« Responder #327 em: Junho 28, 2004, 01:39:31 am »
Papatango, essa matou-me! :rir:  :lol:

Cumprimentos ,
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« Responder #328 em: Junho 28, 2004, 09:08:53 am »
Há progressos no Iraque: a coboiada US agora já dá treino à Resistência !!! Bravo ! :nice:

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New Iraqi police fight US troops who trained them

By Damien McElroy in Baghdad

06/27/04 "The Telegraph" -- With american fighter jets and helicopters buzzing the skies overhead, an officer in Iraq's new police force approaches a group of fighters on Fallujah's front lines with an urgent call to arms.

"I need a man who can use an RPG," says Omar, who wears the uniform of a first lieutenant. Four hands shoot up and a cry rings out: "We are ready." He chooses a young man, Bilal, and they drive to an underpass on the outskirts of the city.

There, on Highway One, an American Humvee is driving east. Bilal aims and fires his rocket propelled grenade, turning the vehicle into a smoking, twisted, metal carcass. The fate of its occupants is unknown.

First Lt Omar is sworn to uphold the law and fight the insurgency that threatens Iraq's evolution into a free and democratic state. Instead, he is exploiting his knowledge of US tactics to help the rebel cause in Fallujah.

"Resistance is stronger when you are working with the occupation forces," he points out. "That way you can learn their weaknesses and attack at that point."

An Iraqi journalist went into Fallujah on behalf of the Telegraph on Wednesday, a day on which an orchestrated wave of bloody rebel attacks across the country cost more than 100 lives.

Inside the Sunni-dominated town, he met police officers and units of the country's new army who have formed a united front with Muslim fundamentalists against the Americans, their resistance focused on al-Askeri district on the eastern outskirts of the town.

That morning, US marines had taken up "aggressive defence" positions on one side of Highway One. On the other side, militant fighters were dug in, ready for battle.

Their preparations were thorough. Along the length of a suburban street in al-Askeri, they had dug foxholes at the base of every palm tree. Scores of armed men lined the streets. Most had scarves wrapped around their heads but others wore the American-supplied uniform of Unit 505 of the Iraqi army, and carried US-made M-16 rifles. Yet more were dressed in the olive green uniforms worn by Saddam Hussein's armed forces. Since April, when a US offensive failed to crush an uprising by Islamic fighters and Ba'athist loyalists, Fallujah has been effectively a no-go area for American troops.

A newly formed, 2,000-strong force known as the Fallujah brigade, led by a Saddam-era general, Mohammed Latif, was supposed to disarm the rebels. Instead, the town remains a hotbed of resistance. Now, once again, US military pressure is being brought to bear.
 
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« Responder #329 em: Junho 28, 2004, 09:17:42 am »
A visão bushista da democracia: TORTURAR TAMBÉM É DEMOCRÁTICO ! :amazing:

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’Torture in a good cause’
by Ignacio Ramonet

“The United States is committed to the worldwide elimination of torture and we are leading this fight by example. I call on all governments to join with the US and the community of law-abiding nations in prohibiting, investigating, and prosecuting all acts of torture and in undertaking to prevent other cruel and unusual punishment”
President George Bush, Washington Post, 27 June 2003

THE trap of colonial war is closing on the invading forces in Iraq. Like French troops bogged down in an earlier era in Algeria, the British in Kenya, the Belgians in the Congo, the Portuguese in Guinea-Bissau and the Israelis today in Gaza, US armed forces are now realising that crushing military superiority is not enough to save them from hostage-taking, ambushes and other deadly assaults. For soldiers on the ground the occupation of Iraq is fast becoming a descent into hell.

The characteristics of colonial war are usually arrogance on the part of the occupiers, who believe that they belong to a superior race (more civilised, more advanced), are contemptuous of the colon-ised and sometimes refuse to admit that the colonised are even human (1).

This colonial sense of superiority all too easily leads occupying forces, in the name of some higher sacred mission - defending good against evil, protecting civilisation, defending democracy - into disproportionate use of force. In Falluja in April, for example, US forces were intent on punishing those who had mutilated the bodies of four security guards killed in an attack. The forces bombarded civilian residential areas and killed 600 people, including many children.

In this context the US broadcast network CBS decided to break the media silence. In its programme, 60 Minutes II, on 28 April, it showed the first photographs of the savage treatment of Iraqi prisoners by US jailers in Abu Ghraib. These trophy images shocked the world. The report was proof that torture was happening in Iraq. The programme was ready at the start of April, but Pentagon pressure delayed its broadcast for three weeks. The chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, General Richard Myers, personally contacted anchorman Dan Rather and asked him to postpone the programme, arguing that it would endanger the lives of the troops in the "battle of Falluja".

There was official pressure to get the broadcast cancelled. Only when CBS heard that the journalist Seymour Hersh (2), working for the New Yorker magazine, was planning to publish fresh photographs alongside extracts from a damning report prepared by General Antonio Taguba (3) did the network decide to go ahead.

Initially the media had complied with US government instructions that banned pictures of dead US soldiers in Iraq (4) and the media had also censored such pictures on the basis that they were "not very patriotic". Fox News host Bill O’Reilly said: "By using those graphic images of the torture, CBS has given the enemies of America a powerful weapon. And that’s disturbing."

President Bush went on air to announce that he was shocked. The defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, stepped forward to deny all prior know ledge of these practices. Both blamed the excesses on a few black sheep. They were lying. Just as they had lied about the weapons of mass destruction and Saddam Hussein’s supposed relations with Osama bin Laden.

The brutality against Iraqi prisoners was public knowledge. Besides Taguba’s report, both the International Committee of the Red Cross and Amnesty International had reported on systematic brutality in accounts that had been circulating for months. As early as December 2002 the Washington Post (5) had revealed that prisoners accused of belonging to al-Qaida had been held in inhuman conditions by the US at Bagram airbase in Afghanistan and had been tortured. Some had died as a result of their maltreatment.

Other prisoners had been sent to secret prisons on the island of Diego Garcia or to friendly countries - Egypt and Jordan - known for torture. Around 600 prisoners, whose identities are still unknown, were sent to Guantanamo Bay, where Red Cross inspectors are still denied access; Guantanamo tested the techniques subsequently extended to occupied Iraq. An officer in charge of the prisoners said: "If you don’t violate someone’s human rights some of the time, you probably aren’t doing your job." In a discussion of the treatment of prisoners J Cofer Black, head of the CIA counter-terrorism centre, said succinctly: "There was a before 9/11, and there was an after 9/11. After 9/11, the gloves come off." This climate of legitim acy and impunity opened the way to general brutality against Iraqi prisoners. "Torturing in a good cause" is now seen as a grim exploit that merits souvenir photos. If only to remind those involved that colonial wars are always immoral.
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