Citação de: mafets em Abril 30, 2019, 11:23:27 amDuas fragatas modernas são FREEM ou Alvaro de Bazan, não o que temos actualmente. Se me disserem que prescindimos do LPD e vamos comprar uma Type 26, da modernização das VDG e compramos outra ainda vá. Agora bater palmas porque vão ser dados mais 45 milhões para uma fragata a caminho dos 30, onde só os sensores novos custam mais que a dita modernização total, é mais ser "Velho do Restelo". Uma possibilidade é os 300 milhões do LPD + venda das MEKO (100 milhões?) e ir com esses 400 milhões para uma das projectadas novas M holandesas (e belgas)... faltam uns 600 milhões para a 2ª (e parte da 1ª), eu sei...Eu não bato palmas a um MLU das MEKO por 45 cada... mas vender 1 e investir 70/ cada nas outras 2 seria hipótese? Não sei, como disse anteriormente investir 135 nas Meko é um erro, mais valia irmos para NPO Meko e poupar para 2 fragatas decentes...
Duas fragatas modernas são FREEM ou Alvaro de Bazan, não o que temos actualmente. Se me disserem que prescindimos do LPD e vamos comprar uma Type 26, da modernização das VDG e compramos outra ainda vá. Agora bater palmas porque vão ser dados mais 45 milhões para uma fragata a caminho dos 30, onde só os sensores novos custam mais que a dita modernização total, é mais ser "Velho do Restelo".
The Portuguese Navy's fleet of large surface combatants is made up of two Bartolomeu Dias (Karel Doorman/M)-class and three Vasco da Gama (MEKO 200)-class frigates which, despite being small in number and with some capability limitations, enable Portugal to contribute to collective security missions.Both frigate classes will be modernised in the near future, but while the Bartolomeu Dias class will undertake a major refit for future NATO operations, the Vasco Da Gama class will receive a more limited modernisation that will necessitate repurposing the frigates for low-intensity missions only.Portugal ordered the two ex-RNLN Karel Doorman M frigates when they became surplus to requirements in the Netherlands to replace its four 1960s-vintage Joao Belo-class frigates.The frigates are fitted with two quad launchers for Harpoon Block 1C missiles, a Mk 48 vertical launch system for 16 SeaSparrow missiles, one Oto Melara 76 mm/62 compact as a primary gun, one Goalkeeper close-in weapon system, and two Mk 46 Mod 5 torpedoes, and they can embark the navy's Super Lynx helicopters.The navy was originally planning to procure second-hand Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates from the United States, but instead opted for the Karel Doormans on the basis that they were newer, better equipped, and had more commonality with the navy's Vasco da Gama-class frigates."We've been using the M-frigates in a very intensive way and they're proving themselves very well," said Vice Adm Mendes Calado. "I think the decision to buy them was a very clever decision in terms of technology, and the ship is more compatible with our Vasco da Gama class. They are the same technological age. We started our programme for the Vasco da Gama class in 1991 and the M-class frigates are from 1994 - so we can say they are sister ships in terms of technology," he said. "In addition, the Oliver Hazard Perry class are very old ships that need large crews, and with the Karel Doorman class, one of the big advantages is that it can be operated and fully explored in terms of capability with less people. And for us, personnel is the main resource challenge; if we have ships needing less human resources, it's better for us."Work will include installing new combat management and electronic-warfare (EW) systems, and upgrading the sonar, Goalkeeper weapon and Harpoon missile fire-control systems. The frigates'Mk 46 lightweight torpedoes launching system will be upgraded to the Mk 54 standard, which performs better in littoral waters, while the SeaSparrow point defence missile system will be replaced with the Evolved SeaSparrow Missile (ESSM).Vice Adm Mendes Calado said that Bartolomeu Dias will enter its MLU next year, with work to be carried out over 15 months. Dom Francisco de Almeida will follow in 2019, with the aim that work on both is completed by or before 2020.After the M-frigates have completed their MLU the navy will then turn to modernising its three Vasco Da Gama-class ships, he said.Built in Germany to the Blohm + Voss MEKO200PN design, the Vasco Da Gama-class frigates were commissioned into service in 1991. Their equipment fit includes a single 100 mm gun, an Mk 29 octuple launcher for RIM-7P NATO SeaSparrow missiles, eight Harpoon anti-ship missiles, Mk 46 Mod 5 lightweight torpedoes, and a Phalanx Block 1B close-in weapon system. The ships have also received modifications to enable them to serve as NATO flagships.The planned upgrade has been scaled back due to budgetary constraints. According to Vice Adm Mendes Calado, work will include a new integrated communication system and a new integrated platform management system. The modernisation of the combat system and sensors is still under discussion, but the ships will not receive ESSMs or Harpoon Block II missiles. "The combat system won't be as capable as the one we're going to install in the M-frigates," the admiral noted.In light of the reduced modernisation plans the Vasco Da Gama frigates will be mainly engaged in low- and medium-intensity operations and will therefore be restricted to smaller-scale contingency operations and deployments. In spite of this, Vice Adm Mendes Calado said his aim was to keep the frigates "as high-intensity as possible" under the circumstances. "My aim is to keep those ships as respected combat ships," he said.
Citação de: P44 em Maio 04, 2019, 10:01:45 amAgora vaihttps://www.facebook.com/159252640762594/posts/2370348346319668/?app=fblTanto andaime no mastro para não colocarem o SeaWatcher 100? E o Gatekeeper também vem ou nem por isso?
Cá para mim mudaram de ideias já a meio da modernização, quando o novo mastro estava a ser preparado/colocado. Espero estar enganado.