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« em: Maio 24, 2005, 04:57:04 pm »
Dutch Navy to Dispose of Larger Vessels
 
(Source: Radio Netherlands; published May 23, 2005)
 
 
 Defence Minister Henk Kamp wants the navy to get rid of a number of large frigates.  
 
The ships will be replaced by smaller vessels which can be used to patrol the coast.  
 
The defence minister's plans are in line with the wishes of parliament.  
 
The new strategy represents a shift of emphasis away from sea power and towards providing support for operations on land.  
 
The minister is due to inform MPs about the changes to the navy today.  
 
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« Responder #1 em: Setembro 13, 2005, 11:23:16 pm »
Netherlands Success Emphasises BvS10 Capability
 
 
(Source: BAE Systems; issued Sept. 13, 2005)
 
 
 BAE Systems recent £43 million contract with the Netherlands Defence Materiel Organisation for 74 BvS10 all terrain vehicles underlines the capability the vehicle offers to customers worldwide.  
 
Designed to operate in conditions ranging from the heat and humidity of the jungle to dry desert and the frozen Arctic, BvS10 is a fully amphibious, armoured, all terrain vehicle consisting of two tracked units linked by a steering system.  
 
The decision to acquire BvS10 for the Royal Netherlands Marines in four variants (troop carrier, command, repair & recovery, and ambulance) will greatly enhance the regiment’s rapid deployment capability. Fitted with a more powerful engine and having greater load carrying capability and increased armour protection it will supplement earlier Bv206 vehicles currently in service. Deliveries of BvS10 to the Netherlands will commence in January next year with final deliveries in Spring 2007.  
 
The BvS10 is the latest generation of the Land Systems Hägglunds All Terrain Vehicle family, and is based on more than 25 years experience of articulated all terrain vehicle design and production.  
 
The BvS10 is currently in operation as ‘Viking’ with the British Royal Marines, the first armoured vehicle to be used by the regiment in over 50 years, and is under trial and evaluation in France and Finland.  
 
Ideally suited to emergency and peace-keeping operations, BvS10 is easily transportable, Viking can be moved to the area of operations by C-130 Hercules aircraft, underslung and airlifted by Chinook sized helicopters or quickly split into sections and carried by smaller helicopter types.  
 
 
BAE Systems has major operations across five continents and customers in some 130 countries. The Company employs over 90,000 people and generates annual sales of approximately £14.8 billion through its wholly owned and joint-venture operations.  
 
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Marinha da Holanda quer Tomahawks
« Responder #2 em: Outubro 14, 2005, 11:37:58 pm »
Dutch Defence Minister Wants to Purchase Cruise Missiles
 
 
(Source: Radio Netherlands; issued Oct. 13, 2005)
 
 
 Dutch Defence Minister Henk Kamp has reportedly decided to purchase Tomahawk cruise missiles for the Dutch navy. The minister will ask the cabinet to make a decision on the issue on Friday.  
 
The Dutch parliament had previously voted against the acquisition of cruise missiles.  
 
The missiles, which have conventional warheads, could be installed on four modern LCF frigates.  
 
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« Responder #3 em: Outubro 28, 2005, 10:58:42 am »
caro amigo .
se achar que precisa de mais informacao entao aqui vai o site da marinha da holanda:

http://www.koninglijkemarine.nl
 

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« Responder #4 em: Outubro 28, 2005, 02:04:35 pm »
Obrigado Pedro
 

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« Responder #5 em: Outubro 28, 2005, 04:56:19 pm »
de nada
 

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« Responder #6 em: Outubro 28, 2005, 10:13:14 pm »
aqui vai mais informacao sobre a marinha da holanda www.werkebijdemarine.nl e um site de informacao sobre os requesitos que uma pessoa tem que ter se quer ir para a marinha :D .
 

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« Responder #7 em: Janeiro 07, 2006, 06:17:41 pm »
No Tomahawks - yet - for Dutch Defence Minister


(Source: Radio Netherlands; issued Nov. 26, 2004)


AMSTERDAM --- While the Dutch government remains committed to a broad package of extensive spending cuts, Defence Minister Henk Kamp wants the country to beef up its military capability by buying Tomahawk cruise missiles.

It's a controversial wish on his part at a time when most people in the country are feeling the effect of government cutbacks. On Thursday, parliament in The Hague blocked the plans, with only Mr Kamp's liberal-conservative VVD actually backing his proposal. The left-wing opposition is opposed, and even the VVD's main coalition partner, the Christian Democrats, wants to wait and not take a final decision until 2006.

Harry van Bommel, a member of the Dutch Socialist Party, says it's wrong for the minister to try and buy new weapons at a time of cutbacks:

"This government has a policy of cuts in all sectors of the welfare state. We have three million people now not having dental care any more because it's out of the national health service [É] everybody has been facing cuts. At the same time, our defence minister is suggesting that we should buy a new weapon system worth over 100 million euros. I think it is very inappropriate at this moment in time to have this discussion."

However, retired Major General Frank van Kappen of the Dutch marine corps says the minister is pushing for the acquisition of cruise missiles because of the radical changes taking place in the nature of modern military operations:

"The situation has changed in the world, and what he is trying to do is tailor the Netherlands' defence forces for the new operational environment. He believes that the Netherlands should be able to participate in combined operations over the full spectrum of violence."

If the green light for the new military hardware is ever forthcoming, the missiles will be deployed with the Dutch navy. Mr van Kappen explains that this is because this branch of the armed forces needs to shift its focus to be able to go on cooperating fully with the navies of allied nations:

"Traditionally the Netherlands navy has been focussed on anti-submarine warfare in the Greenland-Iceland-UK gap, and land-attack capability in the Netherlands navy is virtually non-existent. In the new operational environment, the role of the Netherlands navy will be defined by how well they can contribute to a joint and combined operation that eventually focuses on land. The Tomahawk cruise missiles provide that land-attack capability, and they're relatively cheap."

But Socialist parliamentarian Harry van Bommel sees things differently. He believes Minister Kamp's plan to acquire the cruise missiles has more to do with pushing the Netherlands forward as a more significant player in international crisis situations:

"I think he wants to use Tomahawk cruise missiles because he wants the Netherlands to play a more important role if it comes to an international crisis. The cruise missiles are going to promote this because they are to be used at an earlier stage of war or any conflict. And he has even said that, in some cases, that might even be without UN authorisation, and that's why we are so very much opposed to the Netherlands buying cruise missiles."

As Mr van Bommel sees it, once the country has such missiles it could, when a crisis arises, be put under a lot of pressure to actually use them:"The Dutch army would be asked by NATO or by an ally to step into a war at an earlier stage. We would be pressed to do so because we then have the possession of these cruise missiles, we also have frigates that have to be used to fire these missiles."

The Netherlands has already committed itself to participation in the United States Joint-Strike Fighter project, and Harry van Bommel believes that buying the Tomahawks as well would push the country even more under the umbrella of US foreign policy, further away from a joint European approach, and limit The Hague's ability to chart its own independent course:

"It also links us more closely to the United States' foreign policy, because US satellites will be used to fire their missiles [É] By buying the Joint Strike Fighter, by buying cruise missiles; we are hooking up to American foreign policy stronger than we ever did. Therefore, it will be in future virtually impossible to define our own course of action in foreign policy; we will follow the Americans more often and at an earlier stage of conflicts. We as the Socialist Party in the Netherlands have no intention to do that."

In Mr van Bommel's view, the defence minister's plan has a lot to do with the government's support for last year's war against Saddam Hussein's Iraq and a related desire to take active part if such a conflict arises in the future:

"The Dutch gave political support to the invasion of Iraq, not militarily. But that was only because there was a formation of a new government going on. Now, buying these cruise missiles would enable us to take part really in the first stages of a war, and therefore the support is coming from those parties who originally said that we should have taken part [in Iraq] in a military way as well."

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« Responder #8 em: Maio 28, 2008, 09:19:41 pm »
antevisão do futuro JSS

"[Os portugueses são]um povo tão dócil e tão bem amestrado que até merecia estar no Jardim Zoológico"
-Dom Januário Torgal Ferreira, Bispo das Forças Armadas
 

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« Responder #9 em: Maio 28, 2008, 09:54:20 pm »
O quê????? :shock:  Outro LPD para a Holanda???.... Não acham que 3 navios logísticos para um país como a Holanda é demasiado?
 

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« Responder #10 em: Maio 28, 2008, 10:38:20 pm »
Meu caro amigo é uma antevisao.
Eu nao creio noutro LPD para a Holanda.
Eu ainda na segunda-feira tive um debate com o ministro Andre rouvoet do ministerio de juventude e Familia e uma das perguntas do debate foi passo a citar""Voce deveria cortar na defesa e investir em desporto para a juventude e nao so.."" a resposta do ministro foi ""se vou falar com o middelkoop nao creio que ele fique muito contente com a ideia.."" :wink:
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« Responder #11 em: Maio 28, 2008, 11:45:20 pm »
Citação de: "Johnny"
O quê????? :?  Com certeza para reduzir os custos, porque o JSS canadiano, por exemplo, tem quanto a mim mais cara de... JSS.

Citação de: "pedro"
E para alem do mais o ministerio da defesa Holandes esta a receber creio que é 5.3% do pib holandes

As despesas de defesa da Holanda situam-se em mais ou menos 1,6 % do PIB (~2,7 % do orçamento do estado se não estou enganado). Creio que não há um único país, fora África e Médio Oriente, com despesas de defesa acima dos 5% do PIB.
« Última modificação: Maio 28, 2008, 11:47:44 pm por ShadIntel »
 

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« Responder #12 em: Maio 28, 2008, 11:46:13 pm »
Citação de: "Johnny"
O quê????? :shock:  Outro LPD para a Holanda???.... Não acham que 3 navios logísticos para um país como a Holanda é demasiado?


O  JSS não é um LPD mas sim um reabastecedor de esquadra polivalente. O desenho é que deriva dos Enforcer. JSS significa Joint Support Ship. Os canadianos também vão pelo mesmo caminho com 3 navios projectados.
 

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« Responder #13 em: Maio 29, 2008, 11:02:08 am »
atenção que esse desenho é só uma antevisão possivel do que será o JSS, o desenho em concreto ainda não está definido, o projecto é de facto um navio que possa servir como LPD+AOR + Navio de Comando em simultâneo.

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New Netherlands JSS



Dutch Plan for Their Largest Naval Ship Ever

Posted by Joris Janssen Lok at 1/15/2008 6:16 AM

The backbone of a modern, 21st-century navy isn't its surface combatants or submarines. It is the large amphibious and/or logistic support ships it can deploy to trouble spots around the world, carrying helicopters, hospital facilities, an embarked landing force, supplies, fuel and a suite of C4I facilities. The Netherlands is planning to build its largest ship ever to be able to do just that.

The new ship is designated the Joint Support Ship (JSS) and will have a displacement of 26,000 tons -- making it a tight fit to squeeze into Den Helder Naval Base.




The JSS is to be ready by 2014 and design of the ship (by the Defense Materiel Organization DMO in close conjunction with TNO Defence & Security, Schelde Naval Shipbuilding, Imtech, Thales, and other industry partners) is starting for real now that the program to build four new Patrol Ships has moved into the production phase.

The plan to build a JSS was first published in the 2005 Naval Study. The ship is to replace the fleet replenishment oiler HrMs Zuiderkruis. The JSS will have a large flight deck capable of supporting Boeing CH-47F Chinook helicopters.

It will also be able to replenish other naval ships at sea, provide strategic sealift of strategic military equipment, and act as a seabase during crisis response operations worldwide.

The JSS will join two Landing Platform Dock (LPD)-type ships that entered service with the Royal Netherlands Navy (RNLN) in 1998 and 2007, respectively (see the Jan/Feb issue of Defense Technology International (DTI) for more detail about these).

Like these LPDs, the JSS will be based on Schelde's Enforcer family of large support ship designs (this was also used as the design for Britain's four new Bay-class amphibious support ships).

Although senior sources in the RNLN so far have not been willing to confirm this, a logical step would be to try and get approval for a second JSS to replace the other fleet replenishment oiler in the Dutch fleet, HrMs Amsterdam, toward the end of the coming decade.

After all, one JSS equals no JSS if the ship happens to be in dock for a major refit at the time a sudden crisis erupts.

With a ship like the JSS, the Netherlands will be able to sea-base a significant aviation, logistic, C4I, disaster relief and humanitarian aid capability right offshore a crisis area struck by a natural or man-made disaster, a civil war or other major disruption.


http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showpo ... stcount=16


para o Canadá:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Support_Ship_Project
"[Os portugueses são]um povo tão dócil e tão bem amestrado que até merecia estar no Jardim Zoológico"
-Dom Januário Torgal Ferreira, Bispo das Forças Armadas
 

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« Responder #14 em: Maio 29, 2008, 12:41:06 pm »
Articulo muy completo en cuanto a informacion acerca  de la Koninklijke Marine (Royal Netherlands Navy ).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koninklijke_Marine
"Con la sangre de un guerrero y el primer rayo de sol, hizo Dios una bandera, y se la dio al pueblo español"
 

 

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