Protestos na Ucrânia e a possibilidade de guerra civil

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Re: Protestos na Ucrânia e a possibilidade de guerra civil
« Responder #660 em: Maio 31, 2014, 12:20:42 am »
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SITUAÇÃO DA UCRÂNIA COM DESENVOLVIMENTOS MUITO PERIGOSOS
« Responder #661 em: Maio 31, 2014, 05:11:37 am »
SITUAÇÃO DA UCRÂNIA COM DESENVOLVIMENTOS MUITO PERIGOSOS

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A esta situação poderá levar depois à divisão e ao sacrifício da Ucrânia, muito á semelhança do que se tem passado na Síria, aliás a situação actual na Ucrânia torna-se assim muito semelhante ao início do conflito naquele país. Mas no entanto na Ucrânia tudo isto tem fortes implicações para a Europa, não é só em termos de prestígio mas também a nível político. Além do mais a divisão da Ucrânia pode ditar a fragmentação da UE, ou então como alguns analistas referem o reforço da sua coesão, cenário que parece se vislumbra muito distante neste momento, até pela acção dos EUA na Europa mas também pela impreparação e inabilidade dos políticos europeus, em particular pela chanceler alemã, Angela Merkel, Durão Barroso, e pela presidente da Lituania Dalia Grybauskaite, que, como titular da presidência da UE no segundo semestre de 2013 foi encarregada da tarefa de supervisionar a assinatura do acordo comercial com a Ucrânia e que acabou por falhar. Para Justinas Valutis, um analista experiente em assuntos UE-Rússia, concorda com esta ideia: "Não há dúvida de que a recusa da Ucrânia a assinar o tratado de livre comércio com a UE em Vilnius foi um grande golpe para o prestígio da UE. O evento em si e as suas consequências imediatas também desmascarou a arrogância doentia, a dupla moral e a influência política limitada da elite de Bruxelas."

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Re: Protestos na Ucrânia e a possibilidade de guerra civil
« Responder #662 em: Maio 31, 2014, 07:23:51 pm »
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_05_3 ... east-0891/

Donetsk People's Republic has evidence that Kiev uses foreign mercenaries


31 May 2014, 16:35


The authorities of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic claim  to have evidence that Kiev recruits foreign mercenaries to conduct the special operation in the south-east, Prime Minister of the Donetsk People's Republic, Alexander Borodai said in an interview with RIA Novosti.

"We hear the English language on the air (radio communications interception), we have seen lists (of people), who were captured in the airport. Judging by the names, the people put down for allowances are obviously of foreign origin. They are Anglo-Saxon. It is not clear - American or Britons. They have snipers; and good ones. Their manners, their weapons make it easy to define them as foreigners…They are clearly not Ukrainian military," said Borodai.

On Monday, May 26, there were battles between militiamen and Ukrainian law enforcers, who used military air power in Donetsk, in the vicinities of the airport and railway station. DPR fighters seized the airport building but, after that, were dislodged. Currently, the airport is under the full control of the Ukrainian military. According to some information, the headquarters of the military operation launched in the city moved there.

According to Borodai, Kiev "could hire foreign private military companies." "I'm not talking about a foreign intervention. The world market for such specialists is wide," said the Prime Minister of the DPR. He says this information was confirmed by the Ukrainian military. "Those who graduated from Ukrainian military academies, who served in the ranks of the Ukrainian armed forces, are now fighting on the side of the DPR. There are ties between our guys and our enemies. There are people who do not want war and don't want to kill their brothers… They speak with us on the telephone and on walkie-talkies. They say it themselves. They say: guys, we are sorry, we don't control the situation, we're not commanders," said Borodai

Earlier Sergei Lavrov, head of Russia's Foreign Ministry, supposed that information about Western, primarily American, mercenaries fighting in Ukraine might be true. "We have a very strong suspicion that this may be true... We (Moscow) would like to confirm whether it is true or not," he said in an interview with the Bloomberg TV channel.

Since mid-April, the Kiev authorities have carried out an operation in the East of Ukraine aimed at suppressing the protest movement, which emerged in response to the changeover of power, which had occurred in the country on February 22 after several days of clashes in central Kiev and had bore many signs of a coup.

About 400 elite commandos from a notorious US private security firm, Greystone Limited, the latest renaming of the former private CIA army Blackwater/Academi, are involved in a punitive operation mounted by Ukraine’s junta government against federalization supporters in eastern Ukraine, the German Bild am Sonntag newspaper reported on Sunday.

According to the newspaper, Greystone/Academi mercenaries participated in attacks against federalization supporters near Slavyansk. So far, it’s unclear who hired them.

In April 29, Germany’s Federal Intelligence Service (BND) informed the Angela Merkel government about Academi commandos’ involvement in Kiev’s military operations in eastern Ukraine.

Academi, former Blackwater (renamed in 2009), gained notoriety for the killing of civilians in Iraq, arms smuggling and other crimes, TASS reports.

According to reports from Donetsk, another group of US mercenaries has landed at the local airport, mercenaries that the 'Maidan'-approved government in Kiev is going to use for a mop-up operation in the region.

Deputy Chief of People's Self-Defence of Donbass, Sergei Tsyplakov, claims that 100 "soldiers of fortune" have arrived this time. Judging by US and UK press reports, the overall strength of the ground force that the Kiev-based government will send to the South-East of Ukraine makes up 1,800

The US private military companies Blackwater and Greystoneare are mentioned increasingly often. Blackwateris actually doesn't exist. It has changed its name several times and is now called Academi. It's the biggest private army of the world. Blackwater is one of its subdivisions. 90 percent of orders for both companies come from the US Department of State, the Pentagon and even the White House. They can collect from 5,000 to 10,000 "soldiers of fortune" under their standards.

Tiffany Anderson of Greystonesaid on April 10th the organization has no soldiers deployed in the east or south of Ukraine. But this kind of denial is quite common for private armies, so hardly anyone will take it seriously.

The founder of Blackwater,Erik Prince has told ABC television that they normally remain in close contact with the State Department, the CIA and the Pentagon, so it's perfectly normal to remain super secretive.

Late last year, Prince published a book, Civilian Warriors. The Inside Story of Blackwater and the Unsung Heroes of the War on Terror. According to what he writes, US agencies always ask them to do some job in far-away countries. "Soldiers of fortune" do that job, without commenting on it ever after. "The job we do is very serious, so no one should better know about it," Erik Prince says.

Journalists asked him to explain his statement that President Obama is perfectly aware of what private armies in the US government's service do.

"You claim in your book that your ties with President Obama are stronger than he will ever agree to admit. Just what does that mean?" the journalists asked.

"This means we are involved in the effort to carry out some key programmes that he sees as ones of vital importance to the United States," he replied.

The Blackwaterand Greystone units for large-scale operations normally constitute up to 100 to 300 people. This means six hit squads have already been flown to Ukraine. The soldiers are paid 300 to 1,500 dollars per day. According to the British press, the US pays 8 million dollars a month to have its private armies deployed in Ukraine.

According to retired Lieutenant Colonel from the Russian security service, Andrei Popov, it is pretty difficult to identify Greystone or Blackwater mercenaries during an operation. They are normally made to look like local police or security service units.

"They are currently armed as the security service troops they are passing themselves off as. They carry Kalashnikov sub-machineguns and Makarov pistols, as well as our bulletproof vests. But they use closed communications channels, and that's how they can be recognized as mercenaries. They are trained just as any task force, but are absolutely unscrupulous. They have no idea of human feelings, that’s why they are used for bloody suppressions of local protests."

The US may also have recruited former task force soldiers, police officer or Marines of various nationalities for a specific operation, which looks like a private foreign legion.
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Re: Protestos na Ucrânia e a possibilidade de guerra civil
« Responder #663 em: Maio 31, 2014, 07:47:20 pm »
Understanding the Mysterious Appearance of the Chechen ‘Vostok’ Battalion in Eastern Ukraine

Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 11 Issue: 101
May 30, 2014 10:10 PM Age: 2 hrs
By: Mairbek Vatchagaev

Chechens confirm their brand worldwide every year. Unfortunately, it is not a brand of high fashion, or new direction in art or science. Chechens are regularly depicted as the bad guys prepared to fight anywhere in the world. The theme of the Russian mafia in Hollywood movies has given way to the Chechen mafia and Chechen jihadists—a Chechen criminal world that threatens American interests around the globe (http://www.militaryparitet.com/perevodn ... dnie/2256/).

Chechens have also surfaced in the Russian-Ukrainian conflict. News agencies have provided links to video reports purporting to show the presence of Chechens among the unidentified armed groups in eastern Ukraine. Sometimes, the uninformed opinion of a lay person looking outside from his car (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAPe02IXBQI) is considered sufficient to figure out that the Chechens are kadyrovtsy, meaning those Chechens who are loyalists of Ramzan Kadyrov, the authoritarian Moscow-backed Chechen leader.

The spokesman for the Ukrainian anti-terrorist operation, Vladislav Seleznev, confirmed that people of Caucasian appearance are among the militants fighting in eastern Ukraine. “We have operative information about many people of Caucasian appearance among the militants” (http://www.ukrinform.ua/rus/news/na_don ... ev_1637090). One of the videos shows a person who states on camera that he and the other armed men around him are Chechens, Afghans, Muslims who came to eastern Ukraine “to protect Russia, to protect Russians and to protect the interests of this country” (http://inforesist.org/video-batalon-vos ... -intervyu/).

The clearest apparent confirmation of the presence of Chechens in the conflict came in a CNN report in Donetsk. Two people replied to the reporter’s question that they were from Chechnya and were kadyrovtsy. They refused to say what unit they were from, but nodded affirmatively when the reporter suggested that they were with the Russian interior ministry (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAAqqBIRxIY).

However, it was not immediately clear from the report if the Chechens were dispatched to Ukraine by the Russian authorities. An armored personnel carrier (APC) carrying the armed men bore the inscription “Battalion Vostok” in large script to make sure it was visible to everyone. The Vostok battalion was disbanded on November 8, 2008, almost immediately after the war in Georgia. As Interfax reported at the time: “The battalions Vostok and Zapad of the 42nd Motorized Rifle Division of the Ministry of Defense of Russia were disbanded,” the deputy commander of Russian Defense Ministry’s ground forces, Colonel-General Vladimir Moltenskoi, told Ramzan Kadyrov in a face-to-face meeting (http://www.interfax.ru/44317).

Those who like to point to the Vostok battalion should understand that the battalion was led by Ramzan Kadyrov’s worst enemy, Sulim Yamadaev. So Kadyrov would not have allowed his people, the kadyrovtsy, to use the name of the battalion of his former nemesis. Another indicator that the group may not have ties to Kadyrov is the fact that fighters from the so-called Vostok battalion openly smoked in front of cameras—something which would be highly improbable, to put it mildly, in Kadyrov’s units because it is haram (forbidden) in Islam and the Chechen strongman, at least in public, tries to have his subordinates maintain the appearance of being good Muslims (http://argumentua.com/stati/donetsk-pos ... vlasti-net).

It is more likely that the Donetsk separatists set up their own version of the “Vostok” battalion that has nothing to do with the original Chechen battalion. The well-known analyst Oleg Kashin pointed out that Chechens once served as bodyguards for Ukraine’s richest businessmen, Renat Akhmetov. According to Kashin, there are Chechens, Ossetians and members of other ethnic groups active in eastern Ukraine (http://kashin.guru/2014/05/25/checehn/).

Various news agencies reported that dozens of Chechens were among the victims of the fighting at Donetsk airport on May 26–27 (http://newsdaily.com.ua/post/263109). However, Donetsk’s mayor said only eight Russian were killed, including three Chechens. None of their surnames, however, are even vaguely Chechen except for one—that of Murat Lamalievich Dadaev, who might have been a Chechen (http://www.segodnia.ru/content/140108). Ukrainian media showed the passport of a Chechen who was born in Grozny, but the passport’s owner turned out to have been an ethnic Russian, Alexander Petrovich Yurtaev, who, according to his passport, was born in Grozny but resided in Stavropol region (https://twitter.com/novostidnua/status/ ... 04/photo/1).

Ramzan Kadyrov responded to the multiple allegations about the participation of kadyrovtsy on the pro-Russian side of the conflict, saying that no “Chechen servicemen” or “military convoys of Chechnya” were taking part in the conflict (http://instagram.com/p/ohIgWPiRoG/). The story is so convoluted that all of the claims on all sides are highly dubious. The less transparent the story is, the more likely it is that the government in Kyiv will make a mistake; and any misstep on Kyiv’s part will play into Moscow’s hands.

Given the evidence discussed above, one can safely assume that there are Chechens in Ukraine, as well as members other ethnic groups from Russia. The total number of Chechens probably does not likely exceed 100. It is not so important how many of them there are. The fact that the Russian authorities refused to admit there are any Chechens fighting in Ukraine suggests they may have been framed. The same thing happened in 1994, in the run up to the first Russian-Chechen war, when the Russian army officially refused to admit that it had sent soldiers and officers to conduct a special operation in Chechnya.

The presence of Chechens in Ukraine is likely to be connected to certain politicians. Were such connections revealed, they would also expose the Kremlin’s plans for eastern Ukraine in the near future.
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Re: Protestos na Ucrânia e a possibilidade de guerra civil
« Responder #664 em: Maio 31, 2014, 07:55:17 pm »
May 30th combat SITREP by "Juan"

1. Sporadic and heavy at times fighting around Slavyansk and the outlying villages on 29 May with no notable successes for the Nats Army and national guard units. Some losses reported for the national guard units.

2. A half battery of Grad missile launchers, BM-21, is in position within range of Mariupol. As of this morning that unit has not fired. Range of Grad missile is up to 35 kilometers.

3. A half battery of Grad missile launchers is in position within range of Slavyansk.

4. I have no positive verification of a Grad missile attack on Slavyansk. This does not mean an attack did not occur. Something very large and multiple did hit the outskirts of an outlying village but I have no source at the impact spots to verify what the impacts were.

5. Sources report that the Donbas Army action at Donetsk Airport was a trap involving proposed negotiations with certain Ukraine Army units under the auspices of a western organization in Donetsk at that time. Sources report that shortly after the negotiations started the Ukraine Army sent in by air strong reinforcements to their unit in airport as the Ukraine Army units in airport attacked the Donbas Army unit.

6. The transport of the Donbas Army wounded in convoy out of the airport area late Monday evening was arranged as a truce to succor the wounded. The two Kamaz transport trucks were each flying a red cross flag and a white flag of truce. They drove in to an ambush set up by right sector/national guard units. The drivers of both trucks were killed. One truck overturned after striking a curb. The other truck was hit by an RPG round. The surviving wounded were killed by right sector on the spot. As the wounded were being killed the two flags were removed from each truck by right sector operatives.

7. Partisan activity has started 3 days ago in Kharkov Oblast around Kharkov City among other areas targeting national guard/right sector units. 29 May losses to two national guard/right sector units were heavy in ambushes.

8. Vostok Battalion 29 May started an operation around Donetsk Administration Building of the Donbas Republic to stop looting by certain Donbas Army members after strong complaints from citizens. Metro supermarket near the airport was heavily looted by Donbas Army members as were several other shops and stores and much of the loot was stored in 3 tents in the area of Donbas Administration Building, one tent having the contents and perpetrators shown on video. Reports are 7 looters were arrested and are awaiting trial. Reports from Ukraine and west media that the looters were shot are false.

9. After the anti looting operation was completed Vostok Battalion had the square in front of Donbas Administration Building cleared of the barricades to provide access for citizens to the facility and to facilitate easier defense of the area in the event of a Ukraine attack.

10. Civilian casualties in Donbas are mounting with the random artillery attacks by units of the Ukraine Army and national guard/right sector. 29 May saw 8 civilians killed in Donbas and a like number of wounded. Some of these casualties were caused by air burst antipersonnel rounds fired from howitzers of the Ukraine Army. Targets are living areas with flats buildings with no visible Donbas Army units in the areas.

12. Families of mobilized Ukraine Army reservists held a large demonstration in Kiev at the Ukraine Parliament Building demanding the return of their husbands and sons. By Ukraine law reservists can not be mobilized for more than 45 days without a declaration of war against another sovereign state by Ukraine. This declaration of war has not been made. Kiev has ordered the mobilization extended indefinitely.

13. One of the two Ukrainian helicopters shot down on 29 May was carrying the commanding general of the 'national guard' who was also 'the commander of field operations for national guard units'.

14. Ukraine has rejected the offer of humanitarian aid from Russian Federation for the two Oblasti of Donetsk and Lugansk.

15. An attempt on 29 May to evacuate children from certain areas of Slavyansk was unsuccessful. Ukraine Army units blockading the city refused passage to the buses carrying the children.

16. A refugee processing center has been set up in the Federal City of Sevastopol of the Russian Federation to aid in the settlement of refugees arriving from areas of fighting in Ukraine. Several hundred refugees have arrived in Sevastopol as of 17:00 29 May and are being housed and fed in the city. A like number are being succored in Simferopol, the capitol of the Autonomous Republic of Krimea of the Russian Federation. A processing center is schedule to be set up 30 May in Simferopol to help the refugees. More refugees are expected in both cities. A like facility for refugees will be set up in the eastern Krimea city of Kerch if needed.
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Re: Protestos na Ucrânia e a possibilidade de guerra civil
« Responder #665 em: Junho 02, 2014, 12:21:23 am »
Why there is no Russian military intervention in the Ukraine


Posted on worldcrisis.ru 30 Май 22:19
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The level of analytical discussions on the Russian Internet is perfectly described by the political scientist Simon Uralov: "To consider that the Ukrainian crisis set off only the minds of the Kievan colleagues and turned them all into bloodthirsty hysterics is fundamentally mistaken. Among the Moscow colleagues there is also an incredible number of such." The purpose of this material is to take a step back from the hysteria and coldly analyze the situation in Ukraine.

I'll start with the necessary clarifications on several emotionally important topics:

Why is there no Russian military intervention?

If this text was written a few days earlier, a significant part of it would had to have been devote to explaining why sending troops to Ukraine was inappropriate and just plain stupid even after the referendum. Fortunately, the head of the resistance ibn Slaviansk, Igor Strelkov, coped with this task better than I: in his video message, he very clearly described the inertness of the local population of Lugansk and Donetsk in terms of real action to protect their interests against the junta. Anticipating the arguments about the referendum, I hasten to say that a check mark on the ballot is certainly cool, but not much different from any hipster-white-ribboned (belolentochnyh) attempts "carry mode" – the “like” on Facebook. Because a "like" handle made ​​in the bulletin doesn’t change anything. The referendum was a necessary but not sufficient action.

How much was the Kremlin prepared for events in Ukraine and how much does it improvise even now?

I advise you to read the telegram's Wikileaks: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html , in which it is shown that Kremlin clearly pointed out to the Americans in 2008 the scenarios that we see today: "Experts tell us that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the ethnic-Russian community against membership, could lead to a major split, involving violence or at worst, civil war. In that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to intervene; a decision Russia does not want to have to face."

It is logical to assume that such a development for the Kremlin was not a surprise and that we are now in even more unpleasant but less nuanced script that something like "Plan E".

In order to understand what the Kremlin will do next, let’s formulate objectives:

- Do not allow the entry of Ukraine into NATO.

- Do not allow the establishment and stabilization in Ukraine of a Russophobic regime, which assumes denazification.

- Do not allow the genocide of Russian South-East population.

Ideally this requires implementation of all three objectives while, in that interval, not breaking the Russian economy during its reorientation toward Asia and, at the same time, preventing the Americans from pulling off their economic ends at the expense of the EU.

How can these goals be realized?

Let us consider the simplest scenario and see what are the vulnerabilities and negative consequences:

So, the Russian army enters Ukraine and a few days later comes to Kiev, then captures all of Ukraine. "Patriots" are jubilant, there are parades on the Khreschatyk, etc.

It seems that all three goals have been achieved, but the following problems emerge:

1. In the EU, where the European business elite has slowly pressed on the feet of their politicians and stamped on the brakes with regard to sanctions, the "war party" (a/k/a "The Party of the United States", or rather "Party Pax Americana») clearly triumphs. Against the Russian Federation, the maximum of real sanctions cut in with terrifying effect principally for the European economy themselves, which immediately falls into a recession. But nothing to rejoice about.

Against this background, the Americans easily force the signing of their version of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, a trade pact, which turns the EU into an appendage of the U.S. economy. Negotiations about the treaty are going on right now and, for the Americans, the entry of Russian troops in Ukraine would be a huge gift. Sanctions against Russia would destroy European business and trade barriers with the U.S. would finish it. What we have at the end: EU in a state as if after a war; the United States, all in white, joyfully absorbing European markets on which they have not and will not have competitors; the Russian Federation - not in the best shape. Does it seem to anyone that someone in this situation is the fool (лох), and that that someone is clearly not the U.S.? By the way, it is not necessary to take into account the arguments to the effect that European politicians would not allow economic suicide. Euro-bureaucrats are not capable even of this, as practice shows.

2. Besides the fact that the Kremlin will render a service to Washington, we need to look at what will happen to Russia itself.

• If the sanctions cut against Russia before the gas mega-contract for 30 years with China is signed, then China will be able to negotiate a price from a position of strength. In fact, from a position of blackmail (This shows in China’s comportment, however, but not clearly).

• If the sanctions are imposed against Russia before the oil mega-contract with Iran is initialled, through which Rosneft will be able to control an additional 500,000 barrels of oil per day, Iran will be able to negotiate a price froma position of strength.

• All subsequent attempts to build something up even to the delivery of imports we need now, will be very, very expensive.

• If sanctions cut in before the signing of the agreement on the establishment of the Eurasian Economic Community, imagine what trumps Lukashenko and Nazarbayev will have to twist Putin’s arms at negotiations. A little more of this, and Moscow, in order to create the EurAsEC, will have to pay for its oil.
3. The Russian Federation would have to assume the responsibility for the restoration of the Ukrainian economy and denazification: where to get the needed number of “denazifiers” in “dusty helmets” (if anyone has forgotten, according to Okudzhava, it was the commissars in dusty helmets that bent over the dead hero of the Civil War) to fight compact groups of Ukrainian Nazis, which will enjoy support and supply from abroad. On aggregate, it is clear that this scenario greatly benefits the United States and China. Russia remains a deep sense of moral satisfaction, economic issues and future curses of the “generous” (щирых) Ukrainians who are unhappy with "life under occupation."


How are the key points in time our vulnerabilities laid out?

1. Gas contract with China - May-June (May 21 signed!)

2. Oil contract with Iran in summer (That's why the U.S. lifted the embargo, as Rosneft is very tightly seated under BP and not very under Exxon Mobil. Where does the oil flows? To China).

3. Important! Elections to the European Parliament, which will get a lot of votes Eurosceptic allies of Russia. After the election, will be assembled Evrokommissii different composition which will be much easier to work with - May 25. Even more important! Gas contract signed with China, newly elected deputies will be more amenable to South Stream.

4. Collection of all relevant documents/permits/etc., for construction of South Stream - May.

This is what is visible to the naked eye, but there are other aspects that are very important, but which are difficult to place clearly on a timetable:

1. Transition to settlements in rubles for energy. Oil and gas are not potatoes: they (are provided under) long-term contracts that cannot be altered unilaterally but require lengthy work to replace them with new ones, plus the change in current ones.

2. Transition to quoting prices in rubles for energy (for trading in rubles) on the Russian markets - it is absolutely hellish work though, if only because up until now no one has ever done anything like it.

3. Own payment system

4. Preparation of import substitution or improvement of our work with Asian suppliers (not in emergency mode).

The list can and should continue, that's what I see, and the Kremlin is much broader horizons.

Now add interesting initiatives of the Russian Foreign Ministry, which is not sitting idly by with its hands folded. For example, Vice Minister Karasin was in Doha on May 6 and met with all the Qatari elite. The results, in my opinion, turned out to be shocking. According to the Foreign Ministry, the Qatari emir said that he appreciates the "convincing and coherent regional policy of the Russian Federation", which is very unexpected for a country that is not just a U.S. ally and the political branch of Exxon Mobil in the Middle East and a 100% opponent of the Russian Federation in Syria. But the casket (ларчик) has simply opened: the fact is that American dreams of filling the whole world with cheap gas are a death sentence for Qatar and its elite. Without ultra-high gas prices, Qatar does not just lose any hope for regional greatness, but becomes a corpse. Doha focuses quickly and begins to offer something of interest: "At the same time, emphasis was placed on accelerating the coordination of the Forum of Gas Exporting Countries (GECF)", the next summit of which (that's a coincidence!) will be held in Qatar. The Forum of Gas Exporting Countries is an organization which includes countries such as Russia, Iran, Qatar, Venezuela, Bolivia and other exporters, and which the Kremlin, for a long time but without success, the Kremlin tried to turn into the gas analogue of OPEC. It is possible that now is the right hour for a potential gas cartel. First, the three major gas exporter: Russia, Qatar and Iran have very similar interests and should be able to work on the same side in order to share and "take over the gills" of the LNG market and pipeline gas market. Such a gas cartel, even in a reduced format (only the Russian Federation, Qatar, Iran) will control at least 55% of the world's gas reserves and have significant opportunities to strongly influence the energy markets of the EU and Asia. Of course, such a project would involve a lot of problems and it will meet opposition, no one gives a guarantee that everything will work, but it is important to see that Moscow is actively seeking opportunities for more strategic advantages in the fight against the United States.

Hopefully it is now clear on what the Kremlin is spending time, which it is trying to win out of the Ukrainian situation, and why it matters.

Let’s return to problems directly related to Ukraine and note that even the implementation of all the important foreign policy projects will not help in carrying out the denazification of Kiev and make it so that Russian troops or rebel army of Novorossia would by greeted with bread and salt even in the central region. If the army of Novorossia has problems with mobilization in Lugansk and Donetsk, then work within the zombified regions will be very, very difficult. However, it seems that on the side of the Russian Federation on the field of battle will soon appear Colonel Hunger and the Special Forces Giperok ("Hyperinflation"), which will dramatically change the balance of power.

The Ukrainian economy is finished. Given the disastrous spring sowings, the crops of vegetables destroyed (frozen), lack of credit, problems with gas, the jump in fuel prices, we can safely say that the economy will come as a northern beast, which will be full and fluffy. No one will give money to the junta, not even from the IMF, which promised something around $17 billion (exactly 50% of what Ukraine needs for this year), but built into the contract an "escape clause": if Kiev does not control all the regions, then Kiev is not to receive a cent. Hunger, cold and hyperinflation (caused by the collapse of the hryvnia) will actively work to weaken the junta and correct the minds of the “generous” (shchirykh) Ukrainians: they will surely not come to love Russia, but this is hardly necessary. It is necessary that they begin to remember the Yanukovych period as sweet, unattainable dream. The inevitable chaos and total collapse of social structures, coupled with low intensity civil war guarantees that NATO will not accept Ukraine since Europe will then itself "be on the rails", and even in the U.S., more or less moderate politicians will not make a move, which obviously would not lead to U.S. victory, but to the dragging of the country into a nuclear war.

Moreover, in the context of total economic collapse, for the miners, metal workers and other comrades who are now firmly glued to their jobs for fear of losing them and hoping to "ride it all in their huts on the edge (of the precipice)", there will no longer be such a possibility. They will have to participate in one form or another, in the political and economic problems of New Russia. And likely they will have to participate in arms.

At the same time, the-junta-named-Poroshenko, foisted (on the country) by the European Union, will have a strong incentive to negotiate with Moscow to make concessions, to offer compromises. Already, the new European Commission, which needs peace in the east and stable gas transit, will be pushing Poroshenko in this direction. Poroshenko will also be pushed in the same direction by social upheavals caused by Colonel Hunger and Hyperinflation the Saboteur.

All these factors, in sum, open up great opportunities for the Kremlin to reformat the former Ukraine into something appropriate to the interests of the Russian Federation. It is precisely this scenario that the United States is attempting to avoid, and it is because of this that the United States has serious reasons to accelerate the translation of the conflict into a hot phase with the use of troops and massive bloodshed.

If you add up the time that is needed for the action of Hunger and the time required to resolve foreign policy problems in terms of establishing work with China, Iran, untethering from the dollar, import substitution, etc. (very roughly) can come to the conclusion that you need somewhere 5-9 months (that same December, for which Yanukovych tried to negotiate) to provide solutions to Ukrainian and other issues to the maximum advantage of Russia. During this period, you must provide at least for the preservation of Ukraine in a state of civil war (i.e., support for the DNR, LNR, but it is not necessary to take Kiev too fast in order not to create unnecessary additional problems) and ideally, combined with the civil war, prolonged and sticky negotiations within Ukraine, with the participation of international observers, something like 2 +4 format, i.e., Poroshenko + Tsarev + Russia, EU, ​​OSCE, USA.

The final touch. In recent months, the U.S. has slowed down the work of its printing press, reducing the "pump-priming" (this especially simplifies the formulation) from 85 to 55 billion dollars a month. Very many expect (e.g. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/ ... 8920140427), that the machine will turn off completely by the end of this year. Again, in that same December. This is due to the fact that the dollar, though it is the main international currency, cannot be printed endlessly - it is impossible. According to various estimates, the United States has almost entirely used up the "resource strength" of the dollar, which allowed them to do the naughty with the (financial) machine. Moreover, the corollary and inevitable effect of such tricks is reducing rates on U.S. bonds, which, on the one hand, helps Washington to pay less for its debts, but, on the other hand, is actually choking the entire U.S. pension and insurance system that is built on the expectation of very different returns from their portfolios bonds. Roughly speaking, by the end of the year, the U.S. will have a choice between to blowing up their social system in order to keep on printing, or greatly reducing their appetites in order to preserve any chance of stability at home. Judging by the reduction in the amount of dollars being thrown into the system, Washington has decided that preventing an explosion is more important than its foreign policy ambitions.


Now to complete the puzzle finally, let’s make our predictions:


- America will try by all means to aggravate the crisis in Ukraine, in order to weaken Russia and put the whole European market under its sway before it needs to shut down its printing presses.

- The Kremlin will try to translate the crisis in Ukraine from the acute to the chronic phase - civil war plus sluggish negotiations amid the economic collapse of Ukraine. At the same time, the Kremlin will use the time to create favorable conditions for the transition to the sharp confrontation with the United States - from the work on untethering from the dollar with China, Iran, Qatar, creating the EEC etc.

- Complete end to the crisis in December 2014, possibly earlier if U.S. desists from trying to exacerbate the hostilities.

- And if it does not desist? - Then ... a big war ... a war for resources, because shale "boom" was an ordinary bubble.

On this subject in detail in the article by William Engdahl "Washington shale boom - bust". Original Washington's Shale Boom Going Bust http://journal-neo.org/2014/05/12/washi ... oing-bust/
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Re: Protestos na Ucrânia e a possibilidade de guerra civil
« Responder #667 em: Junho 02, 2014, 09:26:29 pm »
Como isto se está a desenvolver é mesmo apenas uma questão de tempo até a Rússia invadir o leste da Ucrânia.

O argumento de defender os cidadão russos é cada vez mais justificavel, dá a sensação que os separatistas estão dispostos a perder homens só para fazer a Rússia agir.

Aqueles ataques aereos em areas urbanas vão ser um grande erro, o governo Ucrâniano devia-se esforçar por ganhar o apoio da população, a população do leste só vai odiar cada vez mais o governo com aqueles ataques.
 

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Re: Protestos na Ucrânia e a possibilidade de guerra civil
« Responder #668 em: Junho 02, 2014, 10:36:25 pm »
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Aqueles ataques aéreos em áreas urbanas vão ser um grande erro, o governo Ucraniano devia-se esforçar por ganhar o apoio da população, a população do leste só vai odiar cada vez mais o governo com aqueles ataques.

Tal como tudo começou na Síria! Mas isto é alguma táctica soviética?

Mais vídeos impressionantes das vitimas deste ataque.
 :arrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUIiRPO0W28

Com imagens destas a serem divulgadas por toda a Internet, os russos agora têm o que necessitavam para justificar uma intervenção militar a sério.
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Re: Protestos na Ucrânia e a possibilidade de guerra civil
« Responder #669 em: Junho 03, 2014, 12:07:31 pm »
Um like ao HSMV pelos piores motivos.

Ontem por exemplo as paladinas da verdade e da isencao CNN e BBC ficaram caladas perante este crime.

E assim se vao criando opinioes publicas. Os media russos vendem propaganda,a russia sao os mauzoes mas e o regime nazi de kiev que continua a sua matanca indiscreminada de civis.

Eles pensam que vao resolver a coisa em 2 semanas, vao ter caos por 2 anos.

quanto a uma intervencao militar oficial russa eu proprio ja disse que esse cenario e menos provavel. as americas estao desejosas que a russia meta la as patas, vai provocando ao maximo. a russia sabe como jogar este jogo. mas ha limites

por enquanto o que importa no ocidente e falar mal da russia, esta na moda

acham que estas coisas sao por acaso?

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Re: Protestos na Ucrânia e a possibilidade de guerra civil
« Responder #670 em: Junho 03, 2014, 02:04:46 pm »
Um facto existente, seja ou não acaso, é que antes da crise na Ucrânia podia-se observar um afastamento entre UE e EUA muito devido às escutas da NSA. Havia uma vontade muito grande em cortar com o envio de dados para os EUA e até já se falava numa ligação directa UE-Brasil por cabo submarino por forma a impedir que os dados passassem nos EUA. A própria Alemanha equacionava chamar o Snowden a depor com a possibilidade de depois ele receber asilo na europa.

Desde a crise na Ucrânia e as acções da Rússia na Crimeia não se voltou a falar no escândalo da espionagem e as relações UE-EUA voltam a estar próximas. Seja acaso ou não, a verdade é que devido às acções russas os EUA voltaram a aumentar a sua influência na europa. Só relativamente a este aspecto, arrisco-me a afirmar que a Rússia sofreu uma derrota politica.

A ser verdade o ataque aéreo nesses edifício(de lembrar que o governo de Kiev nega o ataque) é um erro tremendo da parte de Kiev não só porque poderá despoletar a acção russa como é totalmente contraria aquilo que deveria ser a principal prioridade do governo, tentar ganhar o apoio do cidadão comum que não quer guerra, apenas viver a sua vida sossegado.
 

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Re: Protestos na Ucrânia e a possibilidade de guerra civil
« Responder #671 em: Junho 03, 2014, 03:40:38 pm »
Citação de: "HSMW"
Citação de: "Edu"

Aqueles ataques aéreos em áreas urbanas vão ser um grande erro, o governo Ucraniano devia-se esforçar por ganhar o apoio da população, a população do leste só vai odiar cada vez mais o governo com aqueles ataques.

Tal como tudo começou na Síria! Mas isto é alguma táctica soviética?

Mais vídeos impressionantes das vitimas deste ataque.
 :arrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUIiRPO0W28

Com imagens destas a serem divulgadas por toda a Internet, os russos agora têm o que necessitavam para justificar uma intervenção militar a sério.

A doutrina Soviética sempre privilegiou o bombardeamento de área, quer por meios aéreos mas também por artilharia, sobre a zona provável onde está a ameaça ou a proveniência da resistência armada (normalmente não é usado qualquer meio para descortinar a posição exacta nem nenhum FAC ou JTAC para facilitar e coordenar o CAS com as tropas terrestres). É assim normal que os países treinados segundo essa doutrina façam a mesma coisa. Basta ver que  nos ataques aéreos usa-se sobretudo helicópteros e aviões Su-25, os quais até agora raramente foram vistos com bombas ou misseis guiados por laser.








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Um facto existente, seja ou não acaso, é que antes da crise na Ucrânia podia-se observar um afastamento entre UE e EUA muito devido às escutas da NSA. Havia uma vontade muito grande em cortar com o envio de dados para os EUA e até já se falava numa ligação directa UE-Brasil por cabo submarino por forma a impedir que os dados passassem nos EUA. A própria Alemanha equacionava chamar o Snowden a depor com a possibilidade de depois ele receber asilo na europa.

Desde a crise na Ucrânia e as acções da Rússia na Crimeia não se voltou a falar no escândalo da espionagem e as relações UE-EUA voltam a estar próximas. Seja acaso ou não, a verdade é que devido às acções russas os EUA voltaram a aumentar a sua influência na europa. Só relativamente a este aspecto, arrisco-me a afirmar que a Rússia sofreu uma derrota politica.
Por alguma razão o Snowden anda novamante "nas bocas do mundo"... :twisted: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/28/obama-administration-indicates-no-easy-return-to-the-u-s-for-edward-snowden/
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117953/edward-snowdens-nbc-interview-revealed-his-ultimate-arrogance

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Re: Protestos na Ucrânia e a possibilidade de guerra civil
« Responder #673 em: Junho 04, 2014, 01:22:02 am »
Quem é este? O irmão do Snowden? Porra que até a voz é parecida.


Entretanto a OSCE confirma que o ataque em Lugansk partiu do céu . A máquina de desinformação já anda prai a espalhar que foi um erro dos pró-russos. O apagão fala. Chiça...

http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/119479

Latest news from the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM), based on information received until 18:00 hrs, 2 June (Kyiv time)

KYIV 3 June 2014



This update is provided for the media and the public

The overall security situation in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions remained volatile. Other parts of Ukraine remained calm. The SMM has not re-established contact with the 4 monitors from the Donetsk team and 4 monitors from the Luhansk team with whom it lost contact on 26 May and 29 May respectively.

In Kharkiv the SMM monitored a Euro-Maidan rally taking place near the Shevchenko monument. The demonstration was attended by approximately 1,000 people, the first Euro-Maidan gathering of such size in three weeks. In the vicinity of the demonstration another group of 50 young people from the ‘Right Sector’ were marching under police observation.

In Luhansk the situation remained volatile. On 2 June, shortly after 15:00 hrs, rockets hit the occupied regional administration building. Based on the SMM’s limited observation these strikes were the result of non-guided rockets shot from an aircraft. The number of casualties is unknown.

A number of Luhansk city and region inhabitants tried to escape the combat zone. The SMM learned that trains to Kharkiv and Kyiv appeared to be fully booked for the next couple of days.

In Donetsk city the situation remained tense. The Ukrainian army holds the Donetsk airport complex, but there were no further substantive clashes between government forces and those of the so-called ‘Donetsk People’s Republic’. Due to security restrictions the SMM was unable to monitor the situation in the whole Donetsk area of responsibility.

In Dnipropetrovsk, the SMM observed a rally outside the Military Unit 3036 of the Ukrainian forces (15 kilometres north-west of Dnipropetrovsk). The 30 people present, mostly relatives of present conscripts, requested the rotation of units deployed in Donbas. They were concerned about the security situation and the lack of information on the deployment of their relatives. The rally was organized through social media. The SMM saw that people dispersed after 30 minutes and no police officers were present at the gathering. No incidents were reported.

The situation in Kherson, Odessa, Chernivtsi, Ivano-Frankivsk, and Lviv remained calm.

In Chernivtsi the SMM met with the mayor of Khotyn town (63 kilometres south-west from Chernivtsi). Khotyn is a small town with about 11,000 inhabitants. The mayor gave the information that 10 Tatar families from Crimea have moved to Khotyn and are supported by the district with housing.

In Lviv the SMM observed a march of approximately 400 people with Ukrainian and Right sector flags. They commemorated the fallen of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (which fought against the Soviet Union, Poland and Germany). The march was under the supervision of 8 to 10 police officers. No incidents were reported by the policemen.

The situation in Kyiv remained calm.
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Re: Protestos na Ucrânia e a possibilidade de guerra civil
« Responder #674 em: Junho 04, 2014, 07:23:52 pm »








Separatistas pró-Rússia



Para-quedistas ucranianos



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Fighters of Social Nationalist Assembly (SNA), part of ultra-nationalist Right Sector movement, take an oath of allegiance to the country before heading to Eastern Ukraine as part of the battalion "Azov" during a ceremony in their headquarters in Kiev June 3, 2014. (*******/Valentyn Ogirenko)

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Volunteers from the Social National Assembly display a national flag before being sent to the eastern part of Ukraine to join the ranks of special battalion "Azov" in Kiev, Ukraine, Tuesday, June 3, 2014. The slogan written on the flag is "Freedom or death." (AP Photo/Sergei Chuzavkov)





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