Conflito Grécia e Turquia

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Conflito Grécia e Turquia
« em: Fevereiro 28, 2010, 03:21:45 pm »
Um dos conflitos que me chama mais a atenção é a tensão quase constante entre Grécia e Turquia.
 Neste mês houve mais uma provocação turca.Uma fragata Grega fazia exercicios militares em águas nacionais Gregas e foi sobrevoada por caças da força aérea Turca.
 Em caso de conflito acham que a Turquia ganharia a guerra?
 

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Re: Conflito Grécia e Turquia
« Responder #1 em: Fevereiro 28, 2010, 09:54:53 pm »
Sin ninguna duda, las Fuerzas Armadas Turcas son de las mas potentes del mundo (en armamento convencional), y es el segundo ejército de la OTAN despues de los Estados Unidos.
El ejército turco es uno de los mayores ejércitos de pie en el mundo y el segundo mayor ejército de la OTAN. El ejército turco puede desplegar un cuerpo de ejército de 50.000 hombres para llevar a cabo operaciones conjuntas a corto plazo. El Ejército puede llevar a cabo operaciones de asalto aéreo con una capacidad de elevación de hasta seis batallones a la vez, el día y la noche.
La Fuerza Aérea de Turquía es una de las más antiguas fuerzas aéreas en el mundo y opera una de las mayores flotas de aviones de combate de la OTAN, han iniciado un programa de la modernización $160 mil millones en 1997. $45 mil millones se destina para ir al reacondicionamiento de la fuerza aérea turca. Como parte de este programa, Ankara para poner en servicio los nuevos aviones de combate (que consisten en el Lightning F-35 II del bloque del F-16 CCIP y posiblemente también el tifón) de Eurofighter y helicópteros Lightning F-35 II .
La marina de guerra turca ha sido históricamente una de las potencias de mar más grandes del mediterráneo.
Hoy, la marina de guerra turca alinea 8va en el mundo en términos de personal, con 51.000 personales activos; y 3ro la más grande de Europa en términos de dislocación de la flota total,con 258.948 toneladas. apoyó en sus naves de relleno, la marina de guerra turca puede participar en operaciones y ejercicios internacionales en cada mar y océano importantes del mundo. Los submarinos pueden navegar individualmente hasta 15.000 millas náuticas (28.000 kilómetros) y volver de nuevo a sus bases de orígen.
Demasiado para Grecia que es un pais de tercera fila en el contexto mediterráneo y nada significativo militarmente ni siquiera a nivel OTAN.
Aparte de eso, es legendario el valor y el arrojo del soldado turco, no temen a nada (solo a Dios).
Demasiado para Grecia (y para casi cualquier otro pais)
1.492, DESCUBRIMOS EL PARAISO.
"SIN MAS ENEMIGOS QUE LOS DE MI PÁTRIA"
 

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Re: Conflito Grécia e Turquia
« Responder #2 em: Janeiro 01, 2012, 05:09:05 pm »
« Última modificação: Setembro 16, 2019, 01:13:20 pm por HSMW »
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Re: Conflito Grécia e Turquia
« Responder #3 em: Setembro 16, 2019, 01:13:56 pm »

Greece and Turkey Are Playing Dangerous War Games on the Aegean Sea
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Conflicto Grécia-Turquia
« Responder #4 em: Julho 22, 2020, 10:03:06 am »
https://turkey.liveuamap.com/en/2020/21-july-greece-put-its-armed-forces-on-a-state-of-readiness

Greece put it's armed forces on a state of readiness after Turkey to send oil-and-gas research vessels into disputed waters in the Eastern Mediterranean. Rumors that the Greek readiness order was prompted by Turkish navy sailing out
 

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Re: Conflicto Grécia-Turquia
« Responder #5 em: Julho 22, 2020, 06:35:57 pm »
Grécia e Turquia medem forças no Mediterrâneo Oriental



 

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Re: Conflicto Grécia-Turquia
« Responder #6 em: Julho 23, 2020, 06:50:12 am »
Turkey-Greece tensions escalate over Turkish Med drilling plans

Greece has issued a naval alert after Turkey announced it was sending a ship to carry out a drilling survey in waters close to a Greek island off Turkey's south coast.

Turkey's initial advisory on Tuesday sparked alarm in Greece amid reports that naval ships from both countries were preparing to patrol the area.

The EU said Turkey's alert was "not helpful and sends the wrong message".

Turkey said its survey ship was working entirely within its continental shelf.

How have relations soured?
Although the Turkish survey ship, Oruc Reis, was still reported to be at anchor in the Turkish port of Antalya on Wednesday, the Turkish alert - known as a Navtex - prompted alarm in the Greek military and was condemned by Athens as illegal.

The survey alert covers an area between Cyprus and Crete. Unconfirmed Greek reports said Turkish and Greek navy ships were heading to an area near the Greek island of Kastellorizo, a short distance from the Turkish mainland.

Greece has said the Turkish naval move violates its sovereign rights. Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis spoke to German Chancellor Angela Merkel and said he would talk to other Greek political leaders about the escalation on Thursday.

Why the flare-up?
Nato allies Turkey and Greece are on separate sides in a race to develop energy resources in the Eastern Mediterranean.

In recent years, huge gas reserves have been found in the waters off Cyprus, prompting the Cypriot government, Greece, Israel and Egypt to work together to make the most of the resources. As part of that agreement, energy supplies would go to Europe via a 2,000km (1,200-mile) pipeline in the Med.

Last year Turkey stepped up drilling to the west of Cyprus, which has been divided since 1974, with Turkish northern Cyprus only recognised as a republic by Ankara. The division of the island was marked in Turkey this week, and Ankara has always argued that the island's natural resources should be shared.

Then, in November 2019, Ankara signed a deal with Libya that Turkey said created an exclusive economic zone (EEZ) from the Turkish southern coast to Libya's north-east coast. Egypt said it was illegal, Greece said it was absurd as it failed to take account of the Greek island of Crete, midway between the two countries.

At the end of May, Turkey said it planned to start drilling in the coming months in several other areas further west, alarming EU members Greece and Cyprus.

Several licences have been issued to Turkish Petroleum to drill in the Eastern Med, including off the Greek islands of Rhodes and Crete.

"Everyone should accept that Turkey and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus cannot be excluded from the energy equation in the region," said Turkish Vice-President Fuat Oktay.

What are the legal issues?
Many Greek islands in the Aegean and the Eastern Mediterranean are within sight of the Turkish coast, so issues of territorial waters are complex and the two countries have come to the brink of war in the past.

If Greece were to extend its territorial waters from six miles to the maximum of 12 allowed internationally, Turkey argues its sea routes would be severely affected.

Apart from territorial waters, there are exclusive economic zones (EEZs), like that agreed between Turkey and Libya, but also like the Cypriot EEZ accords with Lebanon, Egypt and Israel. They can extend for 200 nautical miles.

So where does Kastellorizo fit in, 2km from the Turkish mainland?

Greece argues that the Turkish alert involves a large area of the continental shelf of Kastellorizo. But Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said last month that "islands that are far from the mainland and closer to Turkey cannot have a continental shelf".

Turkey's vice-president said last month that Ankara was tearing up maps "drawn to imprison us on the mainland", and Ankara insists it is acting with the UN's Law of the Sea.

What reaction has there been?
Greece's European allies have backed its position. German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas, on a visit to Athens, urged Ankara to stop "provocations in the Eastern Mediterranean".

On Wednesday, an EU spokeswoman said Turkey's new move was "not helpful and sends the wrong message".

The bloc had repeatedly underlined that the limitation of exclusive economic zones and the continental shelf should be addressed through negotiations and in good faith, she added.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53497741
"[Os portugueses são]um povo tão dócil e tão bem amestrado que até merecia estar no Jardim Zoológico"
-Dom Januário Torgal Ferreira, Bispo das Forças Armadas
 

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"[Os portugueses são]um povo tão dócil e tão bem amestrado que até merecia estar no Jardim Zoológico"
-Dom Januário Torgal Ferreira, Bispo das Forças Armadas
 

 

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