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« Responder #15 em: Agosto 23, 2007, 03:43:18 pm »
E já agora - para evitar repetir o drama "menesiano" - poderia ter a bondade de mencionar a fonte?

Grato.
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« Responder #16 em: Agosto 23, 2007, 04:25:10 pm »
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E já agora - para evitar repetir o drama "menesiano" - poderia ter a bondade de mencionar a fonte?

Grato.


fonte de quê?
Aquilo é do forum Internationalliving :twisted:
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« Responder #17 em: Agosto 23, 2007, 05:29:39 pm »
conhecem alguma link boa para a batalha na ilha de moçambique contra os holandeses?

O livro «O pacto» de James Michener tambem fala na batalha c34x
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« Responder #18 em: Agosto 23, 2007, 10:26:13 pm »
Hugh!! É duro ler isto!!!
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One of the most important reasons why it is so easy to succeed in 1st World countries is because of the infrastructure both technical and human. Most 1st Worlders are so used to it, the do not even notice it. They take it for granted that phones work, that faxes work, that courier shipments will arrive on time, that the mail will not disappear; that you can quickly and easily obtain products and services that you need, albeit they may be costly at times.

When you work in the 1st World, you can see that you work and efforts bear fruit quite easily. When you make an appointment, people come and usually do so on time, when they tell you they will do something related to business (in which they have vested interest, of course) they usually do it.

When you get to other countries of the so-called Developing World (the modern Euphemism for Underdeveloped World) your first question is always: “Why are they still developing? They have been around for so long. What’s the problem?” Soon, you will see what the problem is. If you start doing business there, you will come up against many obstacles that did not exist where you came from. People do not come to appointments or if they do, they come late and unprepared. When you call and ask the secretary why her boss did not show up, she tells you that he has left for a luxury resort (probably with his new mistress). You want to send a fax, but no one even knows what a fax is. If you do see a place that has a sign that says“ Fax”, and park your car near it (if you are lucky to find a parking spot), you will be met with a dour clerk that will tell you that there is no fax machine at the store. “So, why is there a sign?” Sorry, there may not be any laws there that govern false advertising. No one simply cares. One year later, you pass by the same store and the “Fax” sign is still hanging and again, there is no fax there.

In addition to that, if you want to have lunch and are lucky to be given a menu, and, then, you make your choice and ask the waiter for this and that item, he will just tell you that the item is not available. “Then why is it on the menu?” “Well, it was in stock but it is now out of stock”. “Well, you knew that the stock was getting smaller, so why didn’t you order it well in advance? “ They have nothing to say to you. They simply do not care. They do not know how to think ahead.

You get into a taxi and the taxi driver does not even know where many places in the city are located. He is there because his uncle got him a job and he is in training as he works.

Then, you are stuck in the traffic for hours and hours trying to get from place A to place B. All this takes toll on your nerves and general well-being and you are starting to see that the country you are in is still “developing” and is not “developed” because, basically, of the more lax culture, less discipline inherent in the people’s behavior, less foresight and a general happy-go-lucky attitude that permeates the whole functioning of the country. Everything is full of unnecessary delays, laziness, and gross incompetence.

You may be an aggressive go-getter and an organized, responsible person, but if you are in country that is limping along in a haphazard and devil-may-care rhythm of its own, you will soon be stuck in a morass similarly to how Napoleon and Hitler got stuck in Russia and that was the end of them.

Modern politically correct interculturalists claim that there are no inferior cultures and that we are simply different. I say: let them spend a few years as businessmen or investors in one of those dysfunctional societies, step into human excrement on the side of the road, choke on black exhaust fumes for a few hours a day in countries that do not believe in smog checks, get stuck in a pot hole in the middle of a busy street and get cheated in business a few times by unscrupulous and corrupt partners whom you cannot even sue (local courts are so corrupt, they will most probably always decide in favor of locals vs. foreigners) and see what they will say then. I am sure that they will reluctantly admit that, at least, from the business standpoint, there are countries whose cultures are very, very much inferior.
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« Responder #19 em: Agosto 23, 2007, 10:34:41 pm »
So true :(

In many countries around the world whose people are known for being tolerant, incompetence reigns supreme. Why? Well, because who screw up are usually forgiven and given too many second chances. Actually, they are given infinite chances. Hence, they do not dread being punished for their deeds. So, they screw up all the time. Services are bad, products are not delivered on time; people do not come to appointments on time and are forgiven. Hence, over decades, such tolerant societies fall behind those countries that are less tolerant and who give their incompetents hell if they do not shape up. After some time, the intolerant societies end up conquering the tolerant ones and making them their economic or political colonies.

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« Responder #20 em: Agosto 24, 2007, 12:53:56 am »
Sim, sim, sim  :wink:
 

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« Responder #21 em: Agosto 24, 2007, 01:15:51 am »
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Sim, sim, sim  :wink:


Huh???? :roll:
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macholuso

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a culpa dos ingleses
« Responder #22 em: Agosto 24, 2007, 01:20:33 am »
Agora ja percebo porque é que os ingleses raramente ganham competições desportivas

The Anglo Guilt

Former British colonies and Britain itself seem to suffer from some kind of guilt complex. They are constantly trying to make amends for all the bad things they have done to other countries and races. In the process, they can get take advantage by other countries who had done just as many bad things, but who are not feeling guilty in the slightest. China, for example, carried out horrible atrocities in Tibet and Vietnam, but it is not feeling guilty. Neither does Japan. Liberals in America and in the UK for example, have even created a new teaching saying that race does not exist. However, in other countries they do not have such a teaching; they believe in race and practice racism every day. They exclude other races from participation in society, deal with illegal immigrants most harshly (Mexico does that, for example), and devote most of their time to looking out after their national interests. Only the Anglos seem to constantly be saying with a sad mien “We did this, and we did that” while lowering their heads in shame as other nations just go on with their agendas without ever looking back. Sometimes I wonder if such guilt is useful for all these Anglo-Saxon countries. It would be of some benefit if other nation-states were working on straightening out their record as well, but they aren’t. Either they deny that they had ever done anything bad, or they twist it to make it look like they had done a good thing. Everybody is selfish and shrewd, and looking out for number one. Anglos do too, but not as much. The guilt significantly cripples them. Well, as long as UK and US lead the world, they may have to be doing that, since, I guess, the world must love a guilt-ridden leader.

The Anglo Pride,

Along with the guilt there is also a pride and a delusion that comes with it. The gist of it is that an average American, Brit and often a Canadian actually equates the Anglo-Sphere (the part of the world where English is spoken) with ‘the world’. In fact, it is possible to circumnavigate the globe and only land, and spend time in English-speaking countries. Let’s say, you will go from Britain to the US, then Australia, and then, on to Singapore, HK, India, the Gulf Arab countries where most people are Indian or Filipinos, and then possibly to Africa where Kenya, South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana and other such places are English-speaking. Then, one will go back to London. One has been around the world and the world does speak English. At least that is the way it looks. As a result, you may form an illusion that the entire planet speaks English, whereas only 22-25% of it does. Such people who are Anglo- Saxon culturally, by and larg,e do not learn another language when they are abroad, and do not try to assimilate or integrate into other cultures, and find it abnormal when people do not speak English to them. “What are you, dumb or something?” they are often heard saying to people in countries that were not “lucky’ enough to be colonized by England.

Even after decades of living in Thailand, Russia or Germany, many do not make any effort to learn another language, and somehow feel deep in their hearts that the locals are wrong by not speaking English. The illusion that they have about the superiority of the Anglo-Saxon culture is so deep that it borders on madness.

While rarely trying to assimilate into other cultures, many such cultural Anglo-Saxons nevertheless get raving mad when immigrants to their countries want to preserve their culture and language just like they do when they go abroad. Sorry, but it goes both ways. If an American can live in the Dominican Republic for ten years without learning Spanish and be proud of it, you can expect a Dominican to do the same in the US. It’s only fair, isn’t it?

So, those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. When Anglo start respecting other cultures, it should work the other way around, too- those who go to their countries will be making the effort to learn English.

That is if the world is fair, which it never seems to
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« Responder #23 em: Agosto 24, 2007, 04:40:47 am »
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uma coisa que me irrita neste país é pensarem que se forem campeões do mundo de futebol, vão finalmente ser um país respeitado.
Voces veem os brazucas ou os argentinos, que já foram varias vezes campeoes, serem respeitados?  
 Nem em Portugal...

O dinheiro é o que conta acima de tudo, embora convenha ter uma História interessante como a nossa para não parecermos um país rico e aborrecido tipo Suissa :roll:
 

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« Responder #24 em: Agosto 24, 2007, 08:44:11 am »
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uma coisa que me irrita neste país é pensarem que se forem campeões do mundo de futebol, vão finalmente ser um país respeitado.
Voces veem os brazucas ou os argentinos, que já foram varias vezes campeoes, serem respeitados?  
 Nem em Portugal...

O dinheiro é o que conta acima de tudo, embora convenha ter uma História interessante como a nossa para não parecermos um país rico e aborrecido tipo Suissa :roll:


portugas não é invenção de portugueses? :twisted:
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« Responder #25 em: Agosto 24, 2007, 01:39:57 pm »
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Sim, sim, sim  :wink:

Huh???? :wink:
 

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« Responder #26 em: Agosto 24, 2007, 02:14:04 pm »
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Sim, sim, sim  :wink:

Huh???? :wink:


Podes dar-me um exemplo dum país rico do sul devido à disciplina do seu povo e não ao petróleo ou a emigração de gente com a mentalidade do norte como no caso da Australia? c34x
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« Responder #27 em: Agosto 24, 2007, 03:45:31 pm »
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Podes dar-me um exemplo dum país rico do sul devido à disciplina do seu povo e não ao petróleo ou a emigração de gente com a mentalidade do norte como no caso da Australia? c34x


E já que estamos numa de Determinismo Geográfico porque não olhar para o planisfério e ver que a quantidade de terras emersas no hemisfério sul é bem inferior à do hemisfério norte e que à mesma latitude da Escandinávia (60º/70º N) não existe nada no Hemisfério Sul (60º/70º S) sem ser água e gelo.

Ver, por exemplo, os dois planisférios seguintes, com projecção polar (i.e. de um pólo para o Equador).

 

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« Responder #28 em: Agosto 25, 2007, 01:36:20 am »
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Sim, sim, sim  :wink:

Huh???? :wink:

Podes dar-me um exemplo dum país rico do sul devido à disciplina do seu povo e não ao petróleo ou a emigração de gente com a mentalidade do norte como no caso da Australia? :? (se bem que o Kaulza de Arriaga, ainda nos anos 60 do século passado andava a falar disto). Os Esquimós deviam estar riquissimos...  

 Mas respondendo à tua questão, existem vários exemplos, a Republica da Mauricia, Singapura, a Malásia, etc...

 Agora vou deixar-te um pequeno exercicio, de todo o hemisfério sul tenta arranjar um país que não tenha sido completamente colonizado por Europeus, de tal forma que a população autóctone não tenha sido praticamente levada à extinção... E que não tenha petróleo. Basicamente sobra só parte de Africa e alguma coisa do Sul da Ásia...
 
 E já agora vou deixar-te outro, recua um século no tempo e começa a comparar os nºs da Economia Brasileira e Argentina com os do Norte da Europa e és capaz de ter uma enorme surpresa.

 E já agora, porque é que os Lapões e os Esquimós não são riquissimos, e porque é que toda a Europa de Leste tem um PIB per capita inferior a Chipre, etc, etc, e porque é que a Russia está no estado que está, porque é que toda a Mongólia nunca passou da idade média, etc, etc, etc...
 E todas estas minhas perguntas têm respostas perfeitamente plausiveis, sejam económicas, politicas, ou outras quaisquer, mas COM CERTEZA NÃO TÊM NADA A VER COM LATITUDES...

E já agora qual é a "mentalidade do Norte"? É a dos Esquimós, dos Indios Norte Americanos, dos Siberianos Russos, dos Japoneses?!!!!
 

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« Responder #29 em: Agosto 25, 2007, 04:14:33 pm »
Senhor Macholuso...

O que nos tem a dizer sobre o Calvinismo e a questão das posições dos cristãos protestantes relativamente ao liberalismo económico ?
É muito mais fácil enganar uma pessoa, que explicar-lhe que foi enganada ...
Contra a Estupidez, não temos defesa
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