[MATRA]

A modernização dos nossos C130  para o padrão da ANG seria possivel? Alguém sabe os valores dessa modernização?

Penso que a verdadeira questão é: Em que estado estão as células que nos restam?

[NVF]

Com asas novas ficavam um mimo. E ainda podíamos ir buscar mais umas 04 células ao AMARG e ficávamos com um total de 08 células modernizadas e o que sobrava podia ir para comprar BM's para todos os oficiais das FFAA, FS e directores-gerais para cima em todos os departamentos governamentais (pode ser que assim pegue  ).

PS: para o Centeno era no mínimo um M8 e ainda se arranjava qualquer coisa para a esposa. Claro que não podemos deixar de fora o César e família (lá vão mais umas dúzias de M3 e M4).

[dc]

Bom, têm de estar em bom estado suficiente para aguentarem até 2023, data em que se planeia a vida do primeiro avião que os vai substituir.

[mafets]

Toma lá mais um H. 

http://www.planecheck.com/index.asp?ent=da&id=14314&cor=y

Description   (WE ALSO HAVE AVAILABLE FOR IMMEDIATE SALE THREE (3) LOW TIME/ LOW SEVERITY FACTOR (MEP) C-130H CENTER WING BOXES IN DRY U.S. DESERT DEEP PRESERVATION STORAGE).

THIS AIRCRAFT HAS THE LOWEST HOURS, (EBH)   CYCLES AND SEVERITY FACTOR RATINGS OF ANY C-130H IN THE WORLD. AIRCRAFT FUSELAGE TOTAL TIME EQUIVALENT BASELINE HOURS SINCE FACTORY NEW (EBH) : 2,680 HRS -- BECAUSE OF ITS MISSION HISTORY. NO DAMAGE OR ACCIDENT HISTORY, NO HARD LANDINGS AND NO UNPAVED SURFACE LANDINGS SINCE NEW. FURTHERMORE, THIS AIRCRAFT HAS NEVER BEEN OPERATED AS CARGO, LOGISTICS OR TACTICAL PLATFORM.

LOCKHEED MARTIN C-130H, SERIAL NUMBER 4932, HAS RECENTLY COMPLETED ITS PHASE ONE (1) HEAVY PDM AND UPGRADE PROGRAM AT THE ONLY LOCKHEED MARTIN C-130 SERVICE CENTER IN NORTH AMERICA, AND IS AVAILABLE FOR IMMEDIATE SALE.

PHASE TWO (2) (LAST PHASE) WILL BE THE EXTERIOR PAINTING OF THE AIRCRAFT, THE SELECTION OF THE POWER PLANT AND THE AVIONICS EQUIPMENT, ALL IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PREFERENCE OF THE EVENTUAL BUYER (ULTIMATE END USER).

ALL REQUIRED SPECIAL INSPECTIONS (SP) AND STRUCTURAL INSPECTIONS (ST) HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

ALL TIME CHANGES AND ON CONDITION COMPONENTS (ALL REMOVABLE PARTS) HAVE ZERO (0) TIME SINCE OVERHAUL AND/OR ARE FACTORY NEW.

NO MAJOR SCHEDULED INSPECTIONS OR COMPONENTS REPLACEMENTS WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THREE (3) YEARS / 2400 FLIGHT HOURS (FH).

THIS AIRCRAFT WAS PLACED IN DEEP PRESERVATION STORAGE IN THE U.S. DRY AND ARID DESERT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. THIS IMPECCABLE HERCULES WAS ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY OPERATED AS A COMMUNICATION PLATFORM, AND NEVER AS A CARGO, LOGISTIC, TRANSPORT OR TACTICAL AIRCRAFT, IT NEVER HAD A CARGO FLOOR.

OUR AIRCRAFT WILL BE DELIVERED WITH A CARGO FLOOR, A DUAL RAILING CARGO HANDLING SYSTEM AND A COMPLETE 92 SEAT OPERATIONAL PARATROOP SYSTEM. AIR FORCE (END-USER) OPTIONS TO BE DELIVERED WITH THE AIRCRAFT WILL BE POWER PLANT AND AVIONICS.

IT IS THE ONLY VERY LOW TIME/CYCLE C-130H MODEL FOR SALE WORLDWIDE WITH AN EQUIVALENT BASELINE HOURS (EBH) OF 5,154 HOURS SINCE FACTORY NEW AND 2,129 LANDINGS (CYCLES).

CENTER WING REMAINING SERVICE LIFE IS 39,846 HOURS, AND OUTER WINGS REMAINING SERVICE LIFE IS 54,846 HOURS. IT HAS OVER 30 YEARS OF STRUCTURAL LIFE REMAINING AND A DOCUMENTED LOCKHEED MARTIN CERTIFICATION OF ALL EBH AND SF (SEVERITY FACTOR) AND SLA (SEVERITY LIFE ANALYSIS) AS OF 11/ 2014.

A COMPLETE BROCHURE AND SPECS SHEET FOR THE AIRCRAFT IS AVAILABLE, AS WELL AS VARIOUS OPTIONS THAT A CANDIDATE AIR FORCE CAN UNDERTAKE ON ITS OWN.

FINANCING IS AVAILABLE AND CAN BE COORDINATED WITH LIONHEART INTERNATIONAL, INC.

WE ALSO HAVE AVAILABLE FOR IMMEDIATE SALE THREE (3) LOW TIME/ LOW SEVERITY FACTOR (MEP) C-130H CENTER WINGS IN U.S. DESERT DEEP STORAGE.

Saudações 

[PereiraMarques]

É pá, a mim parece-me aquela conversa de vendedor de carros em 2.ª mão, "este belo carro de 1975 só tem  20.000 km, o único proprietário que teve era uma sra. de 70 anos que só usava o carro para levar o netinho à escola"... 

[ocastilho]

É pá, a mim parece-me aquela conversa de vendedor de carros em 2.ª mão, "este belo carro de 1975 só tem  20.000 km, o único proprietário que teve era uma sra. de 70 anos que só usava o carro para levar o netinho à escola"... 

PM, percebo o seu comentário. No entanto, passam a vida a dizer-nos que a situação do pais na permite grandes investimentos nas FAs. E no entanto de repente é perfeitamente razoável gastar quase um 1/5 do investimento previsto para 10 anos. Assumindo que o KaCê não derrapa.

Com umas FAs c/ fragatas em fim de vida, sem treinadores avançados para a FAP, reabastecedor de frota para lá do fim de vida e outras tantas desgraças. Seria se calhar avisado dividir o mal pelas aldeias e tentar dentro do possivel manter a operacionalidade como um todo e não embarcar em sonhos de Pais rico e comprar logo novo e de olhos fechados.

Mais um vez, não digo que o que defendo seja o melhor, mas custa-me a crer que a optimização dos parcos recursos do pais seja na concentração dos recursos numa só vertente. 

[Charlie Jaguar]

Apenas umas breves notas:

NZ's Hercules aircraft set to be replaced with new fleet at cost in excess of $1 billion
MON, JUN 10

The New Zealand Defence Force is set for an estimated more than $1 billion upgrade with C-130J-30 Super Hercules aircrafts chosen to replace the current C-130Hercules planes. Cabinet has decided to seek detailed costing information for a replacement aircraft, Defence Minister Ron Mark announced in a statement today, saying the replacement of the five Hercules transport aircraft is "the highest priority project within the Coalition Government’s Defence Capability Plan 2019".

"Tactical air transport capability is one of the highest value assets available to New Zealand, offering huge utility to the community and nation, enabling movement of personnel and cargo around the country, the South Pacific, down to Antarctica and all around the globe," Mr Mark says."The current Hercules have served us well since the 1960s, but they have reached the end of the road, and suitable and proven replacement aircraft will need to be sourced," he says. "The current fleet is increasing in cost to maintain, and is taking longer to put through maintenance. The Super Hercules was chosen because it offers the necessary range and payload capability as well as fully meeting NZDF’s requirements.

The C-130J, manufactured by Lockheed Martin and with more than 400 C-130Js, has been been delivered to over 21 nations, including the United States, United Kingdom, Australia and Canada."It is used by key Defence partners and carries a greater payload faster and further than the current fleet, with no loss of ability to land where our current Hercules are deployed," Mr Mark says.

"We need a proven performer, and this aircraft is tried and tested. We cannot take risks with what is one of our most critical military capabilities."

A price will be sought through the United States' Foreign Military Sale process. No final contract decision has been made, on either platform numbers, detailed costs, or funding and Budget implications. A Project Implementation Business Case is scheduled to be progressed to Cabinet next year, where these matters will be considered. The Defence Capability Plan 2019 noted that the estimated cost would be more than $1 billion.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/nzs-hercules-aircraft-set-replaced-new-fleet-cost-in-excess-1-billion

E o resto são cantigas... 

[mafets]

É pá, a mim parece-me aquela conversa de vendedor de carros em 2.ª mão, "este belo carro de 1975 só tem  20.000 km, o único proprietário que teve era uma sra. de 70 anos que só usava o carro para levar o netinho à escola"... 

1982 

http://www.c-130.net/aircraft-database/C-130/airframe-profile/8439/

09 Aug 1982   [act]   161531    USNavy   EC-130Q

Jun 1992   [sto]   161531    USNavy USAF AMARC   EC-130Q      

Retired with only 10,308 flight hours.

Cumprimentos

[Major Alvega]

Apenas umas breves notas:

NZ's Hercules aircraft set to be replaced with new fleet at cost in excess of $1 billion
MON, JUN 10

The New Zealand Defence Force is set for an estimated more than $1 billion upgrade with C-130J-30 Super Hercules aircrafts chosen to replace the current C-130Hercules planes. Cabinet has decided to seek detailed costing information for a replacement aircraft, Defence Minister Ron Mark announced in a statement today, saying the replacement of the five Hercules transport aircraft is "the highest priority project within the Coalition Government’s Defence Capability Plan 2019".

"Tactical air transport capability is one of the highest value assets available to New Zealand, offering huge utility to the community and nation, enabling movement of personnel and cargo around the country, the South Pacific, down to Antarctica and all around the globe," Mr Mark says."The current Hercules have served us well since the 1960s, but they have reached the end of the road, and suitable and proven replacement aircraft will need to be sourced," he says. "The current fleet is increasing in cost to maintain, and is taking longer to put through maintenance. The Super Hercules was chosen because it offers the necessary range and payload capability as well as fully meeting NZDF’s requirements.

The C-130J, manufactured by Lockheed Martin and with more than 400 C-130Js, has been been delivered to over 21 nations, including the United States, United Kingdom, Australia and Canada."It is used by key Defence partners and carries a greater payload faster and further than the current fleet, with no loss of ability to land where our current Hercules are deployed," Mr Mark says.

"We need a proven performer, and this aircraft is tried and tested. We cannot take risks with what is one of our most critical military capabilities."

A price will be sought through the United States' Foreign Military Sale process. No final contract decision has been made, on either platform numbers, detailed costs, or funding and Budget implications. A Project Implementation Business Case is scheduled to be progressed to Cabinet next year, where these matters will be considered. The Defence Capability Plan 2019 noted that the estimated cost would be more than $1 billion.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/nzs-hercules-aircraft-set-replaced-new-fleet-cost-in-excess-1-billion

E o resto são cantigas... 

Ora nem mais!

[tenente]

Apenas umas breves notas:

NZ's Hercules aircraft set to be replaced with new fleet at cost in excess of $1 billion
MON, JUN 10

The New Zealand Defence Force is set for an estimated more than $1 billion upgrade with C-130J-30 Super Hercules aircrafts chosen to replace the current C-130Hercules planes. Cabinet has decided to seek detailed costing information for a replacement aircraft, Defence Minister Ron Mark announced in a statement today, saying the replacement of the five Hercules transport aircraft is "the highest priority project within the Coalition Government’s Defence Capability Plan 2019".

"Tactical air transport capability is one of the highest value assets available to New Zealand, offering huge utility to the community and nation, enabling movement of personnel and cargo around the country, the South Pacific, down to Antarctica and all around the globe," Mr Mark says."The current Hercules have served us well since the 1960s, but they have reached the end of the road, and suitable and proven replacement aircraft will need to be sourced," he says. "The current fleet is increasing in cost to maintain, and is taking longer to put through maintenance. The Super Hercules was chosen because it offers the necessary range and payload capability as well as fully meeting NZDF’s requirements.

The C-130J, manufactured by Lockheed Martin and with more than 400 C-130Js, has been been delivered to over 21 nations, including the United States, United Kingdom, Australia and Canada."It is used by key Defence partners and carries a greater payload faster and further than the current fleet, with no loss of ability to land where our current Hercules are deployed," Mr Mark says.

"We need a proven performer, and this aircraft is tried and tested. We cannot take risks with what is one of our most critical military capabilities."

A price will be sought through the United States' Foreign Military Sale process. No final contract decision has been made, on either platform numbers, detailed costs, or funding and Budget implications. A Project Implementation Business Case is scheduled to be progressed to Cabinet next year, where these matters will be considered. The Defence Capability Plan 2019 noted that the estimated cost would be more than $1 billion.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/nzs-hercules-aircraft-set-replaced-new-fleet-cost-in-excess-1-billion

E o resto são cantigas... 

Bem vindo CJ, estava a ver que não..............

Abraços

[Major Alvega]

Sem espinhas.

[Red Baron]

Belgium sells C-130s


The Belgian Ministry of Defence placed a notice on its website on 23 May that it is selling its C-130 air transport fleet, together with related spare parts, tools, and other support systems.

Belgium is selling its fleet of nine C-130 transport aircraft. (Belgian MoD)Belgium is selling its fleet of nine C-130 transport aircraft. (Belgian MoD)

Interested buyers have until 1000 h on 28 June to register their interest in buying the aircraft.

Belgium has nine operational C-130s, according to Jane’s World Air Forces . The MoD says the continual upgrade of the aircraft has included new wings and cockpits and that the transports will be used until 2020, when deliveries of the seven A400Ms replacing them will begin.

[tenente]

Sem espinhas.

Bife do Lombo e mal passado !!!

Abraços

[tenente]

Belgium sells C-130s


The Belgian Ministry of Defence placed a notice on its website on 23 May that it is selling its C-130 air transport fleet, together with related spare parts, tools, and other support systems.

Belgium is selling its fleet of nine C-130 transport aircraft. (Belgian MoD)Belgium is selling its fleet of nine C-130 transport aircraft. (Belgian MoD)

Interested buyers have until 1000 h on 28 June to register their interest in buying the aircraft.

Belgium has nine operational C-130s, according to Jane’s World Air Forces . The MoD says the continual upgrade of the aircraft has included new wings and cockpits and that the transports will be used until 2020, when deliveries of the seven A400Ms replacing them will begin.

Os C's Belgas são de 1972, mais antigos que os nossos mas já modernizados, apenas tem um de 2009.

In  1970 the Belgian Air Force ordered twelve Lockheed C-130H Hercules (type 382C-25D) transport aircraft to replacement its sizeable fleet of Fairchild C-119G Flying Boxcars. The Hercules aircraft were delivered from mid 1972 onwards to Melsbroek based N° 20 Squadron of the 15th Wing. During the first years of operation the aircraft wore a 'Vietnam'-style camouflage scheme which later on gave way for an overall grey. In 1990 a'Mid-Life Improvement Programme' was started, a programme that included replacement of the outer wings ( from engine N°2 and N°3 outwards ) in phase1, the installation of a self-protection suite and a complete new 'glass'cockpit with advanced avionics in phase 2.  Belgian Air Force C-130'shave proven their value during numerous humanitarian deployments, in which several missions, considered impossible by some, were successfully completed. The Lockheed C-130H Hercules is earmarked to be replaced by theall new Airbus Military A-400M, but considerable delays in this multi-nation project has postponed their entry into service so that the Belgian "Hercs" will be around for at least another decade.

http://www.belgian-wings.be/Webpages/Navigator/Photos/MilltaryPics/post_ww2/Lockheed%20C-130H%20Hercules/Lockheed%20C-130H%20Hercules%20front%20page.htm

Abraços

[Charlie Jaguar]

Face ao C-130J, a Embraer parece querer neste momento ressalvar que o KC-390 apenas leva vantagem no quesito velocidade, fazendo fé no que vem escrito neste artigo. Além disso, voltam a insistir que a primeira venda internacional está garantida, para Portugal, e que a FAP deverá começar a receber as aeronaves em breve. Alguém viu por aí um contrato assinado? É que eu ainda não...

https://www.aeroflap.com.br/concorrencia-entre-embraer-e-lockheed-martin-coloca-frente-a-frente-kc-390-e-c-130j/