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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #780 em: Julho 26, 2019, 04:23:04 pm »
Será que está medida se deve aos acidentes no Japão e na Carolina do Sul?
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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #781 em: Julho 26, 2019, 05:22:51 pm »
Será que está medida se deve aos acidentes no Japão e na Carolina do Sul?

No caso do Japão a ser verdade o que foi reportado, este sistema podia ter prevenido o acidente.
 

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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #782 em: Julho 29, 2019, 10:18:19 am »
Será que está medida se deve aos acidentes no Japão e na Carolina do Sul?

Pelo que li o sistema estava já a ser desenvolvido no F-16 e com sucesso, e o mesmo já estava planeado ser aplicado no F-35, provavelmente foi um pouco de tudo, o sistema está pronto, o F-35 precisa de um incentivo a sua reputação, fica sempre bem depois de tantos atrasos, e é mais um "trunfo" na venda do F-35, é win-win
 

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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #783 em: Julho 29, 2019, 11:01:05 am »
Será que está medida se deve aos acidentes no Japão e na Carolina do Sul?

Pelo que li o sistema estava já a ser desenvolvido no F-16 e com sucesso, e o mesmo já estava planeado ser aplicado no F-35, provavelmente foi um pouco de tudo, o sistema está pronto, o F-35 precisa de um incentivo a sua reputação, fica sempre bem depois de tantos atrasos, e é mais um "trunfo" na venda do F-35, é win-win

O GCAS ja existe no F-16 desde 2014.

GCAS em ação:
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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #784 em: Setembro 14, 2019, 03:52:13 pm »
U.S. Air Force F-16 Fighting Falcon to Gets F-35 Sensors, Radar & Weapons

A fleet of F-16s are now getting new F-35 Active Electronically Scanned radar, and other upgrades including upper wing skin and fittings, upper and lower bulkhead, and canopy sill longeron. The effort, called a Service Life Extension Program, is already underway; Low Rate Initial Production started last year, according to Capt. Hope Cronin, Air Force spokeswoman, told Warrior Maven earlier this year.

The SLEP program consists of 12 structural modifications and an existing Time Compliance Technical Order. The Air Force is upgrading 372 F-16 aircraft from the existing mechanically scanned radar (APG-68) to an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) (APG-83), Cronin explained.

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“This upgrade provides greater bandwidth, speed, & agility enabling F-16s to detect, track, & identify a greater number of targets, faster and at longer ranges,” she told Warrior Maven.

The new AESA radar can track up to 20-targets at one time, Randy Howard, Lockheed Martin F-16 Director of Strategy and Business Development, told Warrior Maven earlier this year.

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The F-16 is a much more capable weapon due to the AESA radar. We are taking lessons learned from the F-35 and rolling them back into the F-16. The ASEA is able to see a wide area laterally, horizontally, diagonally and vertically,” he told Warrior Maven

Howard added that the upgraded F-16s are getting a modern, state of the art targeting system and sniper system along with clear graphics and video into the cockpit. “Pilots can see targets farther,” Howard said.

Alongside the Air Force SLEP, Lockheed Martin has also been building a new F-16v variant, which continues to inspire allied interests around the globe. The F-16v also uses new computers and software as well as a high-definition cockpit display. The “v” model also adds a new data bus, electronic warfare suite, missile warning sensor, and helmet-mounted cueing system.

The new F-16 also uses a high degree of increased onboard automation to free up pilot focus and workload. By automatically performing a range of important procedural functions independently, a pilot is then freed up to focus more intently on other mission-critical tasks.

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“Instead of being a display manager, the pilot is a tactician…his systems are making self-protection decisions for him faster, at the speed of a computer,” Howard said.

Part of the F-16 automation includes the use of a computerized Ground Collision Avoidance System, a technology that uses computer algorithms to autonomously re-route the plane in the event that a pilot is incapacitated. The computer system can, for instance, take overflight of the plane to avoid a collision with the ground, building or other structure. So far, Air Force and Lockheed officials report that the program has already saved seven lives and billions in aircraft costs.

F-16 modernization is also part of a broader Department of Defense program to prototype AI-enabled predictive maintenance.

“The effort, which is using AI to analyze decades of maintenance records, will wrap up in late Summer 2019. It is progressing towards delivering a predictive maintenance application,” Cronin said

https://fighterjetsworld.com/weekly-article/u-s-air-force-f-16-fighting-falcon-to-gets-f-35-sensors-radar-weapons/17984/
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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #785 em: Setembro 14, 2019, 04:33:41 pm »
U.S. Air Force F-16 Fighting Falcon to Gets F-35 Sensors, Radar & Weapons

A fleet of F-16s are now getting new F-35 Active Electronically Scanned radar, and other upgrades including upper wing skin and fittings, upper and lower bulkhead, and canopy sill longeron. The effort, called a Service Life Extension Program, is already underway; Low Rate Initial Production started last year, according to Capt. Hope Cronin, Air Force spokeswoman, told Warrior Maven earlier this year.

The SLEP program consists of 12 structural modifications and an existing Time Compliance Technical Order. The Air Force is upgrading 372 F-16 aircraft from the existing mechanically scanned radar (APG-68) to an Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) (APG-83), Cronin explained.

Citar
“This upgrade provides greater bandwidth, speed, & agility enabling F-16s to detect, track, & identify a greater number of targets, faster and at longer ranges,” she told Warrior Maven.

The new AESA radar can track up to 20-targets at one time, Randy Howard, Lockheed Martin F-16 Director of Strategy and Business Development, told Warrior Maven earlier this year.

Citar
The F-16 is a much more capable weapon due to the AESA radar. We are taking lessons learned from the F-35 and rolling them back into the F-16. The ASEA is able to see a wide area laterally, horizontally, diagonally and vertically,” he told Warrior Maven

Howard added that the upgraded F-16s are getting a modern, state of the art targeting system and sniper system along with clear graphics and video into the cockpit. “Pilots can see targets farther,” Howard said.

Alongside the Air Force SLEP, Lockheed Martin has also been building a new F-16v variant, which continues to inspire allied interests around the globe. The F-16v also uses new computers and software as well as a high-definition cockpit display. The “v” model also adds a new data bus, electronic warfare suite, missile warning sensor, and helmet-mounted cueing system.

The new F-16 also uses a high degree of increased onboard automation to free up pilot focus and workload. By automatically performing a range of important procedural functions independently, a pilot is then freed up to focus more intently on other mission-critical tasks.

Citar
“Instead of being a display manager, the pilot is a tactician…his systems are making self-protection decisions for him faster, at the speed of a computer,” Howard said.

Part of the F-16 automation includes the use of a computerized Ground Collision Avoidance System, a technology that uses computer algorithms to autonomously re-route the plane in the event that a pilot is incapacitated. The computer system can, for instance, take overflight of the plane to avoid a collision with the ground, building or other structure. So far, Air Force and Lockheed officials report that the program has already saved seven lives and billions in aircraft costs.

F-16 modernization is also part of a broader Department of Defense program to prototype AI-enabled predictive maintenance.

“The effort, which is using AI to analyze decades of maintenance records, will wrap up in late Summer 2019. It is progressing towards delivering a predictive maintenance application,” Cronin said

https://fighterjetsworld.com/weekly-article/u-s-air-force-f-16-fighting-falcon-to-gets-f-35-sensors-radar-weapons/17984/

Achava que iam passar mais células de Block 40/42 para viper. Mas já devem ter muitas horas de voo.
 

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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #786 em: Outubro 30, 2019, 07:39:32 pm »
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The US Department of Defense (DoD) has agreed a USD34 billion deal with Lockheed Martin for the production and delivery of 478 F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) aircraft, the company announced on 29 October.

The agreement includes the 291 United States, 127 international partner, and 60 Foreign Military Sales (FMS) aircraft in Lots 12, 13, and 14. These orders comprise 351 conventional take-off and landing (CTOL) variant F-35As, 86 short take-off and vertical landing (STOVL) F-35Bs, and 41 carrier-variant (CV) F-35Cs.

As noted by the Joint Program Office (JPO) and Lockheed Martin, this block buy brings the cost of the F-35A down from in excess of USD250 million in Lot 1 to USD77.9 million in Lot 14.

USAF Lieutenant General Eric Fick, F-35 Program Executive Officer, said, "Driving down cost is critical to the success of this programme. I am excited that the F-35 JPO and Lockheed Martin have agreed on this landmark three-lot deal. This agreement achieves an average 12.7% cost reduction across all three variants and gets us below USD80 million for a USAF F-35A by Lot 13 [USD79.2 million] - one lot [and one year] earlier than planned [in 2019]."

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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #787 em: Outubro 30, 2019, 09:47:00 pm »
Não trouxe a calculadora, já alguém viu se o preço por unidade está melhor?

https://www.rtp.pt/noticias/mundo/pentagono-anuncia-compra-de-478-cacas-f-35-por-30-mil-milhoes-de-euros_n1182481

O estagiário voltou a meter o dedo, agora parece que o F35C, é um avião de carga, deve ter ficado confundido com tanta letra F, C, ...  :bang:
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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #788 em: Outubro 30, 2019, 09:57:25 pm »


O F-35B britânico foi testado pela primeira vez em "Beast Mode" no HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH.
 

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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #789 em: Outubro 30, 2019, 10:52:03 pm »
Não trouxe a calculadora, já alguém viu se o preço por unidade está melhor?

https://www.rtp.pt/noticias/mundo/pentagono-anuncia-compra-de-478-cacas-f-35-por-30-mil-milhoes-de-euros_n1182481

O estagiário voltou a meter o dedo, agora parece que o F35C, é um avião de carga, deve ter ficado confundido com tanta letra F, C, ...  :bang:


Dá 62.7 milhões cada um.
Fala que alguns serão para países aliados, quais?
Esse preço está muito bom, mas cheira-me  que isso tá barato demais.

Editing : Aqui já interessa ler, preços interessantes .

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon on Tuesday announced pricing details for its agreement with Lockheed Martin Co that lowers by 12.7% the cost of the F-35 jets it plans to purchase through 2022, which may encourage other nations to buy warplanes.

Lockheed executives have said that any country with an F-16 jet, the predecessor to the F-35, is a potential customer.

The F-35A, the most common version of the aircraft, will each cost $82.4 million in 2020, $79.17 million in 2021 and $77.9 million in 2022, the Pentagon told reporters at the Pentagon on Tuesday.

The agreement means the U.S. government and allies plan to purchase 478 F-35 fighter jets at a cost of $34 billion over the three years.

In June, the U.S. Department of Defense revealed that the price for the F-35A fell by 8.8% to $81.35 million in fiscal 2020. The previous price, which has been negotiated on an annual basis, was $89.2 million per F-35A.

The June agreement did not contain finalized pricing for the Pentagon’s purchase options for the jets in 2021 and 2022, because Congress has yet to approve budgets for those years.

Lockheed Martin’s goal is to deliver 131 aircraft in 2019 with production growing to more than 149 aircraft deliveries in 2020 and up to 169 jets per year in later years.

The F-35 currently makes up about 25% of Lockheed’s annual revenue.

The F-35 program has long aimed at expanding the fleet to more than 3,000 jets and bringing the unit price of the F-35A below $80 million through efficiencies gained by ordering larger quantifies.

About 10 countries are eyeing the purchase of the F-35, said Air Force Lieutenant General Eric Fick, head of F-35 Lightning II Joint Program Office.

“This puts the cost per unit below our earlier forecasts,” Norwegian Defense Minister Frank Bakke-Jensen said in a statement.

“Cost reductions, good negotiations and cooperation in the partnership are showing results. That’s very positive and boosting our confidence in the acquisition,” he added.

Norway has so far received 22 of the fighter jets from Lockheed, and will take another 18 over the next three years. In total, the country plans to buy 52 F-35s.

More U.S. allies have been eyeing a purchase of the stealthy jet including Finland, Switzerland and the United Arab Emirates.
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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #790 em: Outubro 30, 2019, 11:18:54 pm »
SE fossem 28 F35-A aqui para os gês, eram 2000 milhões de € só em aviões, sem contar com os extras e seviços associados.
(Mas aquele ali em Beast Mode já fica mais engraçado)
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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #791 em: Outubro 30, 2019, 11:36:14 pm »
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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #792 em: Outubro 30, 2019, 11:48:53 pm »
Se Portugal conseguisse um valor na ordem dos 1700 milhões por 33, era de pegar logo de caras, com todos os extras necessários para ir até aos 2100 milhões.
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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #793 em: Outubro 31, 2019, 02:53:37 pm »
https://defence-blog.com/news/pentagon-and-lockheed-martin-finalized-34-billion-agreement-for-478-f-35s.html

Como dizia o outro: É fazer as contas...

Apenas para meu conhecimento.Não existe nada na Europa a nível de caças e mais económicos que poderiam servir?Nada tenho contra os F-35 apenas os acho muito caros para o nosso bolso.
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Re: F-35 JSF
« Responder #794 em: Outubro 31, 2019, 03:35:40 pm »
Tudo o que é associado a aquisição de novos caças, é sempre dispendioso. Soluções baratas a nível ocidental, só mesmo um upgrade aos nossos F-16, ou eventualmente ir buscar células ao AMARG com menos horas de voo e fazer-lhes o upgrade. Ainda assim, a solução será sempre cara.

No caso do F-35, o problema não está apenas no preço, que até pode atingir valores suportáveis ao longo dos anos, mas sim nos custos de operação comparativamente ao F-16. O mesmo se aplica a um caça como o Rafale ou Typhoon. O Gripen pouco ou nada acrescentaria face a um F-16V, tirando uma nova linha logística e de treino para pilotos e equipas de manutenção.

Além destes, não restam mais opções no ocidente, tirando talvez o novo F-15X, que sofre do mesmo problema que os bimotores europeus, ou o Super Hornet que junta os problemas dos bimotores, com o problema do Gripen de pouco acrescentar em termos de inovação e capacidades.

É esperar para ver, qualquer investimento neste sentido implica gastos elevados, portanto que se compre o que dá mais garantias para o futuro.

Edit: Depois de enviar a mensagem é que me apercebi de estar em off-topic, peço desculpa.
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