[Fábio G.]

E que tal uma versão MBT da vaca, punha-se umas placas de protecção e um canhão entre os corn.. e ficava o M1AV Vaca. :lol:  

[dremanu]

Vcs são tão maldosos, coitadinhas das vaquinhas so querem comer relva e viverem tranquilamente, e vcs já estam a pensar em transformar as coitadinhas em AMD.

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Mudando de assunto:

Fico com inveja destes Turcos, até aqueles gajos têm hélis de ataque. Onde estam os nossos? Tb não sei se precisamos de alguns, pelo menos no momento. O que acham?

[Fábio G.]

Eu acho que a partir do momento em que tivermos o GALE operacional deviasse começar a pensar logo nesta aquisição, não é preciso que sejam os melhores nem novos,  para começar uns de 2ª mão chegavam.

[Spectral]

Caro Dremanu pode ir pôr a sua opinião ao thread "GALE", na secção dos Exércitos. Isso já começou a ser debatido por lá...

Já agora, o seu novo avatar está excelente!

Cumptos

[Fábio G.]

E a versão anti-tanque da vaca podia ser o COW(vaca)-V em vez do TOW.

[komet]

Se já viram o Kung Pow, já devem estar conscientes do instinto assassino de uma vaca. É muito potencial escondido.

Um aparte, na idade medieval, era pratica comum usar vacas e corpos de doentes como arremesso nos Trebuchets contra fortalezas sitiadas de modo a desmoralizar os inimigos.

[Guilherme]

Sim, cadáveres com varíola, rubéola, peste negra, etc.

[emarques]

Catapultas e vacas nos tempos medievais:

http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/grail/grail-08.htm

FRENCH GUARD:
    You don't frighten us, English pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur King, you and all your silly English k-nnnnniggets. Thpppppt! Thppt! Thppt!
GALAHAD:
    What a strange person.
ARTHUR:
    Now look here, my good man--
FRENCH GUARD:
    I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
GALAHAD:
    Is there someone else up there we could talk to?
FRENCH GUARD:
    No. Now, go away, or I shall taunt you a second time-a!
    [sniff]
ARTHUR:
    Now, this is your last chance. I've been more than reasonable.
FRENCH GUARD:
    (Fetchez la vache.)
OTHER FRENCH GUARD:
    Quoi?
FRENCH GUARD:
    (Fetchez la vache!)
    [mooo]

[komet]

We are the knights that never say ni!

[Fábio G.]

Quer dizer que a vaca pode ser uma boa arma biológica.

[Spectral]

"And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.'
"

só falta  o Amen


 :lol:  :lol:

[FinkenHeinle]

Perdoem-me, mas me parece que a decisão sobre os helis turcos sequer saiu ainda. Os americanos se recusaram à permitir a construção sob-licensa na Turquia, ao que a concorrência foi reaberta...

Nesse caso, esses helis sequer são turcos... Afinal de contas, a versão que participava da concorrência ou era W ou era Z...

[Ricardo Nunes]

Perdoem-me, mas me parece que a decisão sobre os helis turcos sequer saiu ainda. Os americanos se recusaram à permitir a construção sob-licensa na Turquia, ao que a concorrência foi reaberta...

Nesse caso, esses helis sequer são turcos... Afinal de contas, a versão que participava da concorrência ou era W ou era Z...

Errado caro amigo.
O exército turco já opera uma pequena frota de AH-1.

Se bem que não estou 100% seguro da versão, de tarde porderei dar-lhe mais pormenores, visto que agora são 0630 da manhã, e estou com um pouco de pressa!  

[JNSA]

O Ricardo tem razão FinkenHeinle - os turcos operam actualmente 30 AH-1P Cobra e 12 AH-1W.

Quanto ao concurso (creio que era para 145 aeronaves) os dois principais concorrentes são o Kamov Ka-50-2 e o AH-1Z. Chegou a correr o boato de que o héli russo tinha sido escolhido, mas ainda não foi nada confirmado.

[Fábio G.]

Uma noticia sobre a compra dos AH-1W para a Turquia:

Bell near deal with Turkey
Firm would co-produce 50 helicopters worth about $2 billion

WASHINGTON – Bell Helicopter Textron Inc. of Fort Worth may be near success in a long quest to sell $2 billion worth of attack helicopters to Turkey, that nation's ambassador to Washington said Tuesday.

"It's probably close to a final decision," ambassador Osman Faruk Logoglu said of the proposed helicopter deal, which Bell has been working on since 1996.

"I know Textron is pursuing this matter very closely," Mr. Logoglu said at a breakfast with Pentagon reporters.

The proposed deal was once justified partly because of the threat posed to Turkey by Saddam Hussein's Iraq, whose armies had large numbers of tanks, which the helicopters are designed to attack.

But while that threat has been removed, Mr. Logoglu said Turkey "lives in a very difficult neighborhood" and spends "a lot of money on our national defense." Turkey's neighbors include Syria and Iran.

Bell recently made a final offer to Turkey to co-produce 50 AH-1 Cobra attack helicopters for $2 billion and is awaiting Ankara's decision, confirmed company spokesman Bob Leder in Fort Worth.

"We expect a decision by the end of the year," Mr. Leder said.

Most of the work would be done in Turkey under license, so the deal would create few if any jobs in Bell's Fort Worth and Amarillo facilities, Mr. Leder acknowledged.

An apparent breakthrough occurred in September, when retired Marine Corps Gen. Terry Dake, senior vice president of Bell's government business unit, went to Turkey as part of an American-Turkish Council delegation led by retired Air Force Gen. Brent Scowcroft.

Mr. Scowcroft, national security adviser in the first Bush administration, is a longtime paid consultant to Textron, Mr. Leder said.

Turkey selected Bell three years ago after a four-year competition, choosing a modified version of its AH-1W Cobra labeled the KingCobra. The gunship would be similar to Bell's newer AH-1Z SuperCobra, which the company is to manufacture for the Marine Corps.

The original plan was for Turkey to buy 145 aircraft for $3.5 billion, but the country's tumultuous politics and its economic problems have prevented the deal from coming to fruition.

The chief of Turkey's general staff, Gen. Hilmi Ozkok, is to get a briefing on the new offer Friday, and Bell hopes for a contract signing before the end of the year.

Bell has already completed specifications and licensing agreements with Turkish Aerospace Industries, which would build the helicopters at a factory outside Ankara, Mr. Leder said.

Once the contract is signed, the State Department must approve it and notify Congress. Lawmakers could reject it by a majority vote of both chambers, but would have only 15 days to do so because Turkey is a NATO ally.

Despite tensions that arose when Turkey's parliament declined to let U.S. troops invade Iraq from Turkish territory, the administration is expected to support the deal.

"Turkey and the United States are still NATO allies and friends, and while we seem to be sailing through some white water together right now, I believe both nations believe it is individually in their national interest to maintain a friendly relationship," said Air Force Lt. Gen. Tome Walters, director of the Defense Security Cooperation Agency, the Pentagon's foreign military sales arm.

The gunship contract is expected to face opposition on Capitol Hill among supporters of Turkey's perennial foe, Greece, and other members who sympathize with the Kurds of Turkey and Iraq.

Turkey's military has been battling Kurdish militants in southern Turkey for years, and opponents of the helicopter deal have contended that the machines would be used to repress the minority group.