[Duarte]

Voltando ao tópico...

Se forem NH90 para embarcar na classe "Afonso de Abuquerque" será o fim do mundo...?

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1pjsx6t/spanish_navy_eyes_standard_2_special_forces/

[Duarte]

The reliability of the naval version of the NH90 is a subject of debate and has varied significantly by operator. While some navies consider it a successful and reliable asset, others have experienced significant problems, leading some to retire the fleet early.
Positive Experiences (Reliable and Effective)

Italy: The Italian Navy considers the SH/MH-90A the "backbone" of its rotary-wing fleet and a "successful choice". Crews have provided positive feedback, finding it capable of operating in any scenario, from anti-submarine warfare to disaster relief, with high safety standards and advanced avionics that enhance situational awareness.
Netherlands: The Netherlands has expressed continued confidence in the platform, expanding their fleet and planning upgrades. They were the first operator to use the NH90 in an operational mission during anti-piracy operations in 2013.

France and Germany: Both nations continue to operate the naval variant (NH90 Caiman and NH90 Sea Lion, respectively) and are proceeding with modernizations and new deliveries, indicating commitment to the platform.
Operational Capabilities: Proponents highlight the helicopter's advanced features, such as fly-by-wire controls, a crashworthy composite airframe, and fully integrated mission systems, which are well-suited for demanding naval environments and reduce pilot workload.
Negative Experiences (Unreliable and Costly)

Norway: In 2022, Norway terminated its NH90 contract and demanded a full refund due to continuous delays, an inability of the manufacturer to meet contractual obligations, and low availability rates. The fleet averaged only about 700 flight hours annually against a requirement of 3,900 hours.

Australia: Australia retired its fleet (MRH-90 Taipan, which included naval support roles) well ahead of the planned date, citing ongoing concerns with poor reliability, high maintenance costs, and frequent groundings.

Sweden and Belgium: Both nations have also expressed dissatisfaction and have initiated plans to replace or retire their NH90 fleets due to operational challenges and high costs. Sweden fast-tracked the purchase of Black Hawks as a stopgap measure after delays with the NH90s.

The reliability issues with the NH90 generally stem from logistical challenges, specifically the high cost of maintenance and long wait times for spare parts, rather than fundamental design flaws of the aircraft itself. When operational, the helicopter is a capable and modern machine, but keeping a sufficient number of aircraft airworthy has been a significant challenge for many operators. The experience is highly variable, suggesting that national maintenance and support infrastructure play a critical role in its perceived reliability.

[Lampuka]

Mau, então o trump anda a assediar a Meloni para sair da UE? Brincamos?…

A ser verdade o que se lê por aí, a coisa está a tomar proporções perigosas...

[sivispacem]

https://cnnportugal.iol.pt/dinamarca/estados-unidos/pela-primeira-vez-dinamarca-classifica-eua-como-potencial-ameaca-a-seguranca/20251210/6939cc1ed34e2bd5c6d4f4c6

[Bubas]

Novo Sea Tiger específico para ASW

 

Voltando ao tópico...

Se forem NH90 para embarcar na classe "Afonso de Abuquerque" será o fim do mundo...?

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1pjsx6t/spanish_navy_eyes_standard_2_special_forces/

[Duarte]

Novo Sea Tiger específico para ASW

 

Se a Airbus fizer um pacote de 3 destes com os EF onde assinamos? 

[Subsea7]

So it begins...

https://expresso.pt/politica/defesa/2025-12-11-investimentos-de-58-mil-milhoes-na-defesa-vao-ser-decididos-em-segredo-e-sem-concurso-4767800a

[LightningBolt]

So it begins...

https://expresso.pt/politica/defesa/2025-12-11-investimentos-de-58-mil-milhoes-na-defesa-vao-ser-decididos-em-segredo-e-sem-concurso-4767800a

Sim... com este delicioso cospe para o ar como quem não quer a coisa... retive... já tenho olho para estas coisas.

A aquisição das modernas fragatas FREMM italianas será o maior negócio: €3 mil milhões decididos no gabinete do ministro

um bocadinho de veneno, com uma colherzinha de chá de aldrabice/favorecimento/pouca transparência/submarinos paulo portas... tudo a girar nestes pensamentos que induz às pessoas logo de forma bem indirecta... só se sou eu que sou desconfiado... mas eu vejo um pouco disto tudo ali..

[LightningBolt]

Novo Sea Tiger específico para ASW

 

Voltando ao tópico...

Se forem NH90 para embarcar na classe "Afonso de Abuquerque" será o fim do mundo...?

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1pjsx6t/spanish_navy_eyes_standard_2_special_forces/

top👌 e máquina bonita

[ICE 1A+]

So it begins...

https://expresso.pt/politica/defesa/2025-12-11-investimentos-de-58-mil-milhoes-na-defesa-vao-ser-decididos-em-segredo-e-sem-concurso-4767800a

Atendendo as características do programa SAFE da UE   Não havia muito por onde escolher..
A choradeira dos espanhóis só demonstra a ignorância de quem publicou esses vídeos..e esses artigos …
As fragatas espanholas inglesas e alemãs ou Holandeses estão excluídas de qualquer aquisição através do programa SAFE por incorporarem  mais de 35 % de tecnologia Americana….. ou de fora da qUE
A Navantia então …armamento e sensores é 100% americana .
avisem os espanhóis que o Trump um dia destes corta-lhes o link do AEGIS
Restam franceses  e italianos 
Os franceses do Naval Group não conseguem cumprir os prazos definido , logo..restam os italianos..

[Lampuka]

So it begins...

https://expresso.pt/politica/defesa/2025-12-11-investimentos-de-58-mil-milhoes-na-defesa-vao-ser-decididos-em-segredo-e-sem-concurso-4767800a

Importante é fazer fé no ditado... os cães ladram e a caravana passa.

Com tantos milhões em jogo,  estando em causa material militar, não se espera outra coisa daqui lá.

É só ver o ruído em torno dos BH e da certificação dos heliportos nos hospitais num assunto que, afinal,  era um não assunto...