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Polish Navy inks $570M deal for minesweepers, rescue vessel
By: Jaroslaw Adamowski
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Poland’s ORP Kormoran minesweeper entered operational service in November 2017. (Polish Ministry of National Defence)
WARSAW, Poland — The Polish Ministry of Defence has signed a deal with a consortium formed by the Gdansk-based Remontowa Shipbuilding shipyard and the country’s defense giant PGZ to acquire two minesweeper vessels and one rescue vessel.
“We are rebuilding the Polish Navy, which was forgotten for many years,” Deputy Defence Minister Bartosz Kownacki said in a statement.
The ministry says the acquisitions, which are worth nearly 2 billion zloty (U.S. $570 million), will be part of its effort to modernize the country’s Navy and preserve Poland’s operational capacities in the Baltic Sea. The two minesweepers are scheduled to be delivered to the Navy in the years 2020 to 2021, Remontowa Shipbuilding said in a statement.
In addition to the minesweepers and one rescue vessel, Warsaw also aims to replace its outdated Kobben-class submarines with three new subs under a contract estimated to be worth some 10 billion zloty. Last August, the ministry decided to overhaul two of the Kobbens, but the subs are to be decommissioned, one in 2018 and another in 2020.
Remontowa Shipbuilding is a privately owned shipyard with a portolio of naval ships, cargo and offshore vessels, and ferries.
Headquartered in Radom, central Poland, PGZ consists of more than 60 companies with an aggregate workforce of 17,500. The state-run group’s total annual revenues are about 5 billion zloty.
http://www.thefifthcolumn.xyz/Forum/viewthread.php?tid=46
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Three bidders in play for Poland’s Orka submarine program
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The new Orka submarines are to replace Poland's outdated Koben-class submarines. Polish Navy photo of recently decommissioned Koben-class submarine ORP Kondor
In an update on its acquisition programs for the Polish Navy, Poland’s defense ministry on December 29 said that three European contractors have been shortlisted for the country’s Orka submarine program.
Poland is looking to acquire three new submarines to replace its remaining three, old Koben-class submarines.
The country’s defense ministry said it has received offers from Germany, Sweden and France.
French shipbuilder Naval Group is proposing its Scorpene type submarines the MBDA-built naval cruise missile MdCN (Missile de Croisière Naval) in its submarine version.
Germany’s Thyssen Krupp Marine Systems is proposing its Type 212 Common Design (CD) submarines which will be built for the navies of Norway and Germany.
Sweden’s Saab has offered the A26 submarine, a design used for the construction of Sweden’s new submarines.
The defense ministry noted that, in addition to the military specifications of the offered designs, factors like the level of technology transfer, autonomy in the use of cruise missiles and Polish industry integration would play a role in the process.
Once the contractor has been chosen, submarine deliveries are expected to start between 2024 and 2026.
https://navaltoday.com/2018/01/04/three-bidders-in-play-for-polands-orka-submarine-program/
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Poland Orders Four AW101 for Navy
Leonardo announced on 26 April that it has received a contract from the Polish Ministry of National Defence (MoND), valued at PLN1.65 billion (€380 million), for four AW101 helicopters for the nation’s navy.
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Through its fully owned Polish company, PZL-Świdnik, Leonardo will supply the rotorcraft and a comprehensive integrated logistics and training package to MoND by 2022. The Polish company was selected as prime contractor in a multi-stage process and plays a significant role in the manufacture of all AW101 helicopters ordered worldwide. The aircraft will perform a range of missions, including anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and combat search and rescue (CSAR).
“We are committed to further reinforcing our presence and contribution to Poland, one of Leonardo’s home countries where we see significant collaboration opportunities in the future,” commented Leonardo CEO, Alessandro Profumo.
“The supply of the best-in-class maritime AW101s will allow the Polish Navy to meet its rigorous requirements for the protection of national security in the Baltic Sea and for NATO operations. It will also enable life-saving missions in demanding conditions with second-to-none effectiveness, leveraging Leonardo’s leading role in the maritime helicopter field," added Leonardo Helicopters’ Managing Director, Gian Piero Cutillo.
To further consolidate its presence and develop its business in Poland, Leonardo is establishing a new legal entity headquartered in Warsaw. Leonardo Poland will represent and promote the entire technological and product portfolio, supporting the customer during the programme life cycles to develop partnerships with Polish industry. Marco Lupo has been appointed President of Leonardo Poland, with the aim of strengthening relationships with Polish customers and stakeholders and reinforcing Leonardo’s already well-established position in the country.
https://www.monch.com/mpg/news/air/5358-leonardo-aw101-for-poland.html
https://www.janes.com/article/88102/poland-signs-for-aw101-helicopters
PS : €95 milhões/Heli !! Um EH101 => + 20 AW119Kx ???
Não seria bem mais útil e melhor para as FFAA artilhar os quatro 101's CSAR que possuimos em vez de estar a inventar com a compra de mais uns seis helis de brincar ??? Os €53 milhões orçamentados não seriam suficientes ???
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Não te esqueças que é a versão ASW, com mais sensores e por isso mais cara. Mas em contrapartida, nós que gastámos 440 milhões por 12 unidades há 15 anos atrás, ainda hoje andamos a brincar aos contratos de manutenção, temos falta de sobresselentes e nunca vimos as contrapartidas todas. Ao menos os polacos assinaram parte das contrapartidas ainda antes de encomendarem os helis, vão fabricar parte dos aparelhos e ficar com capacidade de efectuar a sua manutenção. Tem tudo a ver. :mrgreen:
Quanto aos nossos CSAR, já disseste tudo amigo tenente. Esta merda está entregue a amadores e oportunistas, não há nada a fazer.
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On 12 August at the Remontowa Shipbuilding shipyard, acceptance documents were signed for the second of a series of modern mine destroyers – the ORP ‘Albatros’ vessel being built for the Polish Navy.
The ship was built by a consortium consisting of: the leader – Stocznia REMONTOWA Shipbuilding S.A. belonging to the REMONTOWA HOLDING S.A. capital group and members – Ośrodek Badawczo – Rozwojowy Centrum Techniki Morskiej S.A. (OBR CTM S.A.) and PGZ Stocznia Wojenna (formerly Stocznia Marynarki Wojennej).
The handover of the ship was preceded by several months of delivery and acceptance trials, during which the offshore platform and mine threat equipment and systems were checked. Successful completion of the acceptance trials confirmed the ship’s ability to perform its main tasks, which include:
detecting, identifying and combating sea mines and other objects and explosives in sea areas,
securing sea communication routes,
conducting operations in mine threat areas,
environmental assessment in underwater areas.
The ORP ALBATROS ship is already the second of the KORMOARAN II type mine destroyer series. Five years ago, a prototype vessel ORP KORMORAN was handed over to the Polish Navy.
ORP Kormoran was handed over to the navy five years ago. On the basis of experience gained during its operation, certain modifications were introduced in the construction of subsequent vessels. Thanks to them, ORP ALBATROS, as well as subsequent vessels, is equipped with new devices for verifying sea areas. The ship’s artillery system was also changed to a more modern one.
ORP ALBATROS will become part of the 13th minesweeper squadron, which reports to the 8th Coastal Defence Flotilla in Świnoujście.
Photos: photo: Maciej Bielesz/ PortalMorski.pl
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Os futuros 101 da Marinha Polaca:
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https://www.defense-aerospace.com/poland-begins-construction-of-first-electronic-spy-ship/
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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/06/orka-reactivation-which-submarines-for-poland/
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https://twitter.com/AgencjaUzbr/status/1674774930372837377?s=20
Aqui vamos nós, construção das AH140 vai começar este ano
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Nós não,eles.
Nós não vamos a lado nenhum.
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Sobre as fragatas polacas
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Entrega do primeiro EH-101 polaco:
Delivery first Polish Merlin
(7 de Agosto de 2023)
On 7 August 2023, the first Leonardo AW101 Merlin maritime helicopter for the Lotnictwo Marynarki Wojennej (LMW, Polish Navy) was delivered to Poland. The AW101, still registered ZR288 (c/n 50288), made a fuel stop at Rotterdam-The Hague airport.
Originally the Polish Navy planned to acquire eight AW101s to replace its ageing Mi-14 helicopters currently operated by the 44 Baza Lotnictwa Morskiego (44.BLotM) at Darłowo air base. This number was reduced to four in 2018, postponing the purchase of the other four.
It is expected that all four Merlins wil be delivered this year.
Fonte: https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/delivery-first-polish-merlin (https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/delivery-first-polish-merlin)
AW101 już w drodze do Polski (7 de Agosto de 2023): https://defence24.pl/sily-zbrojne/aw101-juz-w-drodze-do-polski (https://defence24.pl/sily-zbrojne/aw101-juz-w-drodze-do-polski)
Cumprimentos,
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The New Frigates Will Strengthen the Polish Navy
Aug. 17, 2023
(Source: Polish Ministry of Defense; issued Aug 16, 2023)
(Unofficial translation by Defense-Aerospace.com)
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Polish Minister of National Defense Mariusz Błaszczak at the first steel cut ceremony in Gdynia on Wednesday. The event marked the launch of the construction of three Miecznik-class frigates for the Polish navy. (Polish MoD photo)
GDYNIA, Poland --- “We have witnessed a very important event, which is the next stage of our activities aimed at strengthening the Polish Navy. Two years ago, we signed a contract regarding the order of new frigates from a Polish shipyard. Thanks to cooperation with Great Britain, with Babcock and other companies forming the consortium, we have now taken another step forward,” said Mariusz Błaszczak, Minister of National Defense in Gdynia.
On Wednesday, August 16, at PGZ Stocznia Wojenna sp. z o.o. in Gdynia, the head of the Ministry of National Defense participated in the ceremony of burning metal sheets for the first of the three Miecznik frigates for the Polish Navy.
“Yesterday, at the parade in Warsaw, we watched the strength of the Polish Army. First of all, the strength of the land forces, but also the strength of the air forces. It is difficult to present the strength of the Navy in Warsaw. Therefore, today we are in Gdynia and we are witnessing the next stage of strengthening the Polish Navy.
“Three frigates in the Miecznik program will constitute a new quality in the Polish Navy. They will be heavily armed, both in terms of offensive and anti-aircraft weapons. We have talked many times about the Navy with Minister Siewiera, with the President of the Republic of Poland, and as a consequence of these strategic documents, as a consequence of our findings, today we have another stage in terms of strengthening the Polish Navy,” said Minister Mariusz Błaszczak.
https://www.defense-aerospace.com/more-on-polands-future-miecznik-class-frigates/
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Babcock and PGZ model Poland’s Miecznik frigate on the AH140
The joint venture will combine shipbuilding support capabilities to develop Poland’s frigates, domestic naval industrial base and ambitions as a major exporter.
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https://www.naval-technology.com/news/babcock-and-pgz-model-polish-frigates-on-arrowhead-140/
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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/08/poland-could-order-five-more-miecznik-frigates/
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2023 BaltExpo Preview: The Beginning of Poland’s Naval
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Poland is building three Miecznik-class frigates based on Babcock’s Arrowhead 140 (AH140) design, which will form the backbone of its future naval force, but it appears that the contract with Babcock includes an option on five additional ships. (PGZ photo)
WARSAW --- After years of neglect, Poland’s depleting and obsolete fleet is at the beginning of an ambitious transformation process from a littoral to an ocean-centric force.
https://www.defense-aerospace.com/poland-begins-naval-revival-focuses-on-oceangoing-capabilities/
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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/06/hd-hhi-ramps-up-its-campaign-to-secure-polish-orka-project/
On June 20th, HD Hyundai Heavy Industries participated in the 'National Maritime Security Forum FBM 2024' held in Warsaw, Poland, and presented Polish maritime security solutions (HD HHI Photo)
HD HHI Ramps Up Its Campaign To Secure Polish ORKA Project
HD Hyundai Heavy Industries is stepping up efforts to win the contract for the Polish Navy’s next-generation submarine project, ‘ORKA’, worth 3.35 trillion won (approximately 2.41 billion USD).
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HD HHI Submarines in the Poland’s ORKA Program
Overview of the HD HHI submarines proposal for Poland's ORKA program. The Korean shipbuilder is proposing both the KSS-III PL and the HDS-2300 submarine designs.
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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/08/hd-hhi-submarines-in-the-polands-orka-program/
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A still from the video showing the new antenna arrangement of the SM410 system. The new deckhouse can be seen with the antenna “looking” backwards. (Photo: Babcock)
Latest Details on Poland’s Miecznik Frigate Program
During the MSPO fair in Kielce (3rd-6th September), the PGZ-MIECZNIK consortium presented the status of the program for the construction of three Miecznik-class frigates for the Polish Navy. On this occasion, new details on the technical innovations of the platform and its combat system were revealed.
Tomasz Grotnik 12 Sep 2024
According to statements by representatives of the consortium, work on the future ORP Wicher is progressing on schedule, and will not be adjusted for the time being.
To date, the first 300-ton mega block has been built, has already been brought out of the hall, and is being painted (as of early September). The upper part of the mega block is expected to be ready by the end of the first quarter of 2025, and the stern mega block will be built by the end of June next year. The bow mega block is being produced by a subcontractor.
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First, 300-tonnes, megablock outside the production hall. (photo PGZ Stocznia Wojenna)
The Crist shipyard from Gdynia replaced Remontowa Shipbuilding from Gdansk in this role. This part of the Wicher should be ready by the end of 2025. The ship’s launch is expected to take place in the second quarter of 2026, with a very high completion rate, set at around 95%.
Latest design changes of Miecznik frigate
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Slide from a PGZ-MIECZNIK presentation showing changes in mast design. (Photo: PGZ-MIECZNIK)
The slides of the PGZ-MIECZNIK consortium presentation, and a promotional video on display at Babcock International’s booth, showed the latest silhouette of the Miecznik-class frigate.
The most significant change in the design is the relocation of one of the antennas of the Thales Sea Master SM410 radar system from the forward mast to the new small superstructure. Sea Master uses four AESA antenna fixed panels, which in their original configuration were arranged on a mast on the forward superstructure. This arrangement caused the antenna “looking” toward the aft hemisphere to have blind sectors of observation. To avoid this inconvenience, the SM410’s stern panel was moved to a new deckhouse, set up on the hangar roof. That’s also where some of the communications antennas, until now located on the center mast, went. The new deckhouse also has space for the Rohde & Schwarz Kora RESM/CESM system antenna and the ZGS-35K rear E/O head.
The solution is not new. It was used on the Israeli Sa’ar 6-class corvettes and the German F125 Baden-Württmeberg-class frigates, and more recently on the Dutch ASWF frigates. On the Miecznik, the rear antenna is installed well below the level of the others. This is similar to the solution adopted on the ASWF. The new deckhouse cannot be higher, as it would interfere with the ship’s stability. For this reason, the SM410’s rear antenna has less ability to detect low-flying targets, but this disadvantage is compensated for by using the NS58 system with AESA rotating antenna.
The new graphics also show other changes. The placement of some sensors has been optimized, including: navigation radars, the ZGS-35K forward E/O head, and communications systems antennas.
Also interesting news is the abandonment of Saab RBS-15 Mk3E anti-ship missiles. They will be replaced by Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace NSM Block 1A with a range of “more than 250 km”. The basic configuration includes eight missiles (four containers each on two racks). The possibility of taking an additional eight is envisioned. Graphics show the additional missile containers arranged in pairs and “scattered around the upper deck”, generally in ‘vacant places.’ Some of them fire towards the stern, which is rather uncommon on other frigates.
Another minor change is also the replacement on the SAES DDS-03 sonar for detecting frogmen by the Wavefront Sentinel IDS system.
Still to be selected and contracted are suppliers of, among other things, a national communications system (for transmitting information about the ship’s operational situation) and two remotely operated weapon stations with machine guns.
Combat system of the Miecznik-class frigate (first of class only):
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1 – Thales CAPTAS-2 VDS, 2 – provision for a medium size helicopter, 3 -35mm remote controlled weapon station PIT-RADWAR OSU-35K, 4 – navigational radar, 5 – Thales Sea Master 410 multifunction radar, 6 – PIT-RADWAR ZGS-35K E/O system, 7 – communication antenna, 8 – Rohde & Schwarz Kora RESM/CESM system antenna, 9 – Kongsberg NSM anti-ship missiles, 10 – Thales TSA 6000 IFF interrogator, 11 – Thales NS58 air & surface surveillance radar, 12 – Thales Artemis IRST, 13 – Thales STIR 1.2 EO Mk2 fire control system, 14 – Leonardo 76/62 Super Rapid Strales automatic gun, 15 – Thales Blue Hunter hull mounted sonar, 16 – Thales TUUM-6 underwater communication system, 17 – Terma C-Guard decoy launchers, 18 – EuroTorp B515 torpedo tubes, 19 – RHIB/UAV 11,5m, 20 – RHIB/UAV 7,5m, 21 – provision for a small calibre remote controlled weapon station. (Drawing by Tomasz Grotnik)
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/09/latest-details-on-polands-miecznik-frigate-program/#prettyPhoto
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HD HHI inks MoU with Polish Shipyard for ORKA Submarine Program
HD HHI signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with Remontowa Shipbuilding, a local shipyard in Gdańsk, for joint Maintenance, Repair, and Overhaul (MRO) services in the frame of Poland's ORKA submarine program.
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/10/hd-hhi-inks-mou-with-polish-shipyard-for-orka-submarine-program/
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Graphic of the future Polish miecznik class frigates. These ships are Based on Babcock's arrowhead 130 being very similar in appearance to the British type 31 frigate although with a heavier armament and different sensor configuration. Three ships are on order with the first vessel currently under construction. The three ships will be called Wicher,Burza & Huragan.
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A marinheca da tugalândia devia borrar a cara de 💩💩💩💩
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Aqui há, principalmente, decisão política em investir; e apoiada pelos eleitores. Cá os primeiros a não quererem são os eleitores.
Por outro lado demonstra a dificuldade em ter fragatas "boas e baratas"; cada vez mais percebo que para Tier 1 há muitas opções (haja dinheiro e vontade), para o Tier 2 é que é complicado - salvo, claro, para o @P44 e a sua favorita... a classe Tamandaré. :mrgreen:
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Aqui há, principalmente, decisão política em investir; e apoiada pelos eleitores. Cá os primeiros a não quererem são os eleitores.
Por outro lado demonstra a dificuldade em ter fragatas "boas e baratas"; cada vez mais percebo que para Tier 1 há muitas opções (haja dinheiro e vontade), para o Tier 2 é que é complicado - salvo, claro, para o @P44 e a sua favorita... a classe Tamandaré. :mrgreen:
Sim gosto muito, mas bem passada e com maionese :mrgreen:
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Já agora esse jpg que colocaste é antigo, o artigo que coloquei acima já está na última configuração, e representa o que será realmente construído e entregue à Marinha polaca.
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Construction begins on Polish Navy’s second Miecznik-class frigate
Vessels
May 8, 2025, by Fatima Bahtić
Polish shipbuilder PGZ Stocznia Wojenna (PGZ SW) has started the construction of the second Miecznik-class frigate being built for the Polish Navy.
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Poland to launch first Delfin-class ORP Jerzy Różycki intelligence ship to increase Baltic surveillance
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/navy-news/2025/poland-to-launch-first-delfin-class-orp-jerzy-rozycki-intelligence-ship-to-increase-baltic-surveillance
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El Secretario de Defensa de #Polonia visita Navantia #Cartagena para explorar oportunidades de cooperación en #Submarinos
🇵🇱🇪🇸Polish Deputy Minister of National Defence Visits Navantia, S.A., S.M.E Cartagena to Explore Submarine Cooperation Opportunities
The Deputy Minister of National Defence of #Poland, @Pawel_bedja has visited Navantia's shipyard in #Cartagena to gain first-hand knowledge of the construction of the Spanish Navy's S-80 submarines, a model that is well-suited to the Polish Navy's requirements.
✅During his visit, he has been able to see firsthand Navantia's current capabilities in submarine construction at its facilities, the company's extensive experience in technology transfer, the creation of an industrial ecosystem for establishing local submarine maintenance capabilities, and long-term cooperation to enhance naval capabilities in Poland.
Additionally, he took a tour of the workshops to see the construction status of the S-82, S-83, and S-84 submarines, and even boarded the S81 'Isaac Peral' submarine, which is currently undergoing scheduled maintenance.
➡️ Navantia is keen to work with the Polish Navy. "We have developed an effective maintenance model with the Spanish Navy that ensures the operability of submarines throughout their entire lifecycle, and we will replicate this in Poland, adapting it to the Polish Navy's needs," said Alfonso Valea González, Navantia's Commercial Manager.