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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3120 em: Setembro 19, 2016, 10:04:08 am »


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Syria conflict: Australian Prime Minister regret loss of life in US-led airstrike

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37382312

Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turbull has expressed regret for the loss of life in a US-led  airstrike which killed dozens of Syrian soldiers fighting the so-called Islamic State.

Mr Turnbull has confirmed that Australian warplanes were involved in Sunday's mistaken attack .

Rússia called an emergency meeting of the United Nations Security Council to discuss the strikes.

The US has also expressed "regret" for the "unintentional loss of life".

It has said the attack was "halted immediately when coalition officials were informed by Russian officers that it was possible the personnel and vehicles targeted were part of the Syrian military".

Rússia said the attack killed at least 62 Syrian troops fighting Islamic State and wounded 100 more. (...)

Speaking in New York, Mr Turnbull expressed "regret" for the deaths  (...) but he said there was "obviously a lot of poliitics" behind Russia's complaint at the UN, citing "contradictions" with its own actions in Syria, including the reported bombing of hospitals. (...)


 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3121 em: Setembro 19, 2016, 01:16:24 pm »


Trégua na Síria condenada ao fracasso
 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3122 em: Setembro 19, 2016, 01:26:50 pm »
MOD statement on involvement in recent #Syria air strike.
https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/777835504662446080

 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3123 em: Setembro 19, 2016, 06:35:47 pm »

Exército anuncia fim da trégua na Síria
 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3124 em: Setembro 19, 2016, 09:45:56 pm »

Syrian War Report – September 19, 2016: ISIS Obtains Air Force
 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3125 em: Setembro 20, 2016, 09:53:02 am »

Raide aéreo destrói coluna de ajuda humanitária a oeste de Alepo
 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3126 em: Setembro 20, 2016, 11:35:02 am »


UN suspends all aid in Syria after convoy hit

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37417898

The UN has suspended all aid convoys in Syria after its lorries were attacked by warplanes near Aleppo on Monday.

The convoy had received proper permits, and all warring parties  -including Russia and the US-  had been notified, a UN spokesman said.

Eighteen of the 31 lorries,  containing wheat, winter clothes and medical supplies, were destroyed. (...)

The dead included Red Crescent volunteers and drivers.  (...)
 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3127 em: Setembro 20, 2016, 01:24:59 pm »
Russian, Syrian Jets Did Not Conduct Airstrikes on UN Convoy in Aleppo - MoD
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160920/1045504075/russia-syria-convoy.html

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14:52 20.09.2016(updated 15:17 20.09.2016)

Russian and Syrian aircraft did not carry out any airstrikes against a UN humanitarian aid convoy near the city of Aleppo, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said Tuesday.

On Monday, the United Nations’ Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said that the aid convoy crossed the conflict line in the Big Orem area of the Syrian city of Aleppo. Later in the day, UN officials stated that the convoy had been shelled and there were casualties.

"No airstrikes were carried out against a humanitarian aid convoy in a southwestern suburb of Aleppo by Russian or Syrian aviation. Seeing as the convoy’s route lied through the territories controlled by militants, the Russian reconciliation center monitored its passage yesterday via drones," Konashenkov said.

According to the general, the monitoring finished when all humanitarian aid was delivered at around 10:40 GMT.

"Further movements of the convoy were not monitored by the Russian side. Only the militants controlling this area know details of the convoy’s location," Konashenkov added. The examination of video footage reveals no signs of an ammunition strikes on the convoy, he said.

"We have carefully studied videos by so-called activists from the site and found no signs of any ammunition striking the convoy. There are no shell holes, cars' bodies are not damaged and there are no construction faults from the bust wave. All shown on the footage is a direct consequence of the cargo being set on fire. The fire strangely coincided with a major offensive by militants in Aleppo."

The ministry emphasized that the perpetrator of the fire, as well as his goal may be known by members of the "White Helmets" organization that has connection to al-Nusra Front terrorists who have "accidentally" been at the right time and in the right place with cameras.

According to the official, al-Nusra Front terrorist group carried out an artillery attack on the southwestern suburb of Aleppo using multiple launch rocket systems. The UN said that it is premature to name the party responsible for the attack.
 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3128 em: Setembro 20, 2016, 01:44:12 pm »
Russian, Syrian Jets Did Not Conduct Airstrikes on UN Convoy in Aleppo - MoD
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160920/1045504075/russia-syria-convoy.html


Uma grande e inesperada surpresa.

 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3129 em: Setembro 20, 2016, 02:01:50 pm »
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160920/1045504075/russia-syria-convoy.html
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"Further movements of the convoy were not monitored by the Russian side. Only the militants controlling this area know details of the convoy’s location," Konashenkov added. The examination of video footage reveals no signs of an ammunition strikes on the convoy, he said.

"We have carefully studied videos by so-called activists from the site and found no signs of any ammunition striking the convoy. There are no shell holes, cars' bodies are not damaged and there are no construction faults from the bust wave. All shown on the footage is a direct consequence of the cargo being set on fire. The fire strangely coincided with a major offensive by militants in Aleppo."

The ministry emphasized that the perpetrator of the fire, as well as his goal may be known by members of the "White Helmets" organization that has connection to al-Nusra Front terrorists who have "accidentally" been at the right time and in the right place with cameras.

According to the official, al-Nusra Front terrorist group carried out an artillery attack on the southwestern suburb of Aleppo using multiple launch rocket systems. The UN said that it is premature to name the party responsible for the attack.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37413411
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A UN spokesman said at least 18 of 31 trucks had been hit but could not confirm it was by an air strike

Why do "rebels" shout "God is great" when aid convoy is hit?
 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3130 em: Setembro 20, 2016, 03:10:50 pm »


Place of the attack



Screengrab of the convoy taken by a Russian plane at Urum al-Kubra

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A media activist who witnessed the attack told the BBC Arabic service that Russian reconnaissance planes had been spotted, apparently filming the passage of the convoy.

He said the first strike came at about 19:00 local time on Monday,  when a helicopter dropped several barrel bombs. This was followed by rocket and machine-gun fire from aircraft, he said. (...)

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37417898
 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3131 em: Setembro 20, 2016, 04:05:24 pm »
Primeiro uma correcao ao ingles

Did Assad really denied the findings of the UN report? Wow, what a surprise.

Correcto e - Did Assad really deny etc ...

Quanto ao ataque aos camioes de ajuda humanitaria

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37417898

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A media activist who witnessed the attack told the BBC Arabic service that Russian reconnaissance planes had been spotted, apparently filming the passage of the convoy.

He said the first strike came at about 19:00 local time on Monday,  when a helicopter dropped several barrel bombs. This was followed by rocket and machine-gun fire from aircraft, he said. (...)

Algumas perguntas basicas impoe-se.Como e que uma testemunha e capaz de observar que avioes de reconhecimento sao russos? Que credibilidade tem o que um suposto activista diz? Quem e ele? Onde esta o video a suportar as suas afirmacoes (helicoptero a largar bombas e disparos a partir do ar)? A BBC tambem dizia que havia armas de destruicao macica no Iraque.

Os russofobos sao o mesmo tipo de pessoas que na America levam pessoas inocentes  a pena de morte. Acreditam no que os media dizem, no que ouvem por ai. Fazem os seus julgamentos com base nos seus odios e preconceitos. A BBC diz que a testemunha diz que foi a Russia, que foi o Putin, que foi o Assad bla bla entao so pode ser verdade. Quem e que precisa de demonstracao de factos com tao engenhosa sabedoria? Em abono da verdade a BBC deu no seu artigo algumas palavras ao outro lado da narrativa. Consegue a turma americana deste forum desmontar cabalmente as afirmacoes abaixo?

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Russian defence ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said that after studying video taken at the scene they "did not find any signs of munitions hitting the convoy".

"Everything shown in the video is the direct result of a fire which mysteriously began at the same time as a large scale rebel attack on Aleppo," he said.

The Syrian military, quoted by state media, said there was "no truth" to reports that the army had targeted the convoy.
 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3132 em: Setembro 20, 2016, 07:43:34 pm »


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Algumas perguntas basicas impoe-se.Como e que uma testemunha e capaz de observar que avioes de reconhecimento sao russos? Que credibilidade tem o que um suposto activista diz? Quem e ele? Onde esta o video a suportar as suas afirmacoes

Vídeo de 2 horas e 25 minutos do avião russo que seguiu ontem a coluna de ajuda humanitária da ONU:


"Screenshot" (captura de ecrã) do momento em que o avião russo voa sobre a coluna chegada a Urum al-Kubra:



É realmente patética a necessidade que o senhor tem de provar que apenas acredita na propaganda dos orgãos oficiais russos  (TASS, SPUTNIK NEWS, RUSSIA TODAY, etc.), enquanto injuria, por exemplo, à BBC, à que uma vez chamou "British People Brainwashing Corporation". Não é necessária tanta insistência. A questão está clara: o senhor é um ardente admirador do ex-agente do KGB Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3133 em: Setembro 20, 2016, 09:01:51 pm »
Nao e segredo nenhum que drones russos estao a monitorizar a Siria, por isso a Russia esta em melhor posicao para saber o que se passou do que a BBC (British Bullshit Corporation) ou o Olisipo.

Russian, Syrian Air Forces did not strike UN aid convoy in Aleppo - Russian MoD
https://www.rt.com/news/359990-russia-denies-aleppo-strike/

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The Russian Center for Reconciliation said that it had used drones to accompany the convoy because its route passed through territory controlled by the rebels, but only to a certain point.

"Around 13:40 Moscow time (10:40 GMT) the aid convoy successfully reached the destination. The Russian side did not monitor the convoy after this and its movements were only known by the militants who were in control of the area,” Konashenkov added.

The Defense Ministry spokesman said that the Russian military had been looking at video footage from the scene and that there was no sign of the convoy being targeted by shells or an airstrike.

“We have closely studied the video footage from where the incident took place and we did not find any signs of any ammunition having hit the convoy. There are no craters, while the vehicles have their chassis intact and they have not been severely damaged, which would have been the case from an airstrike,” Konashenkov said.

“All of the video footage demonstrates that the convoy caught fire, which strangely happened almost at exactly at the same time as militants started a large scale offensive on Aleppo.”


A damaged truck carrying aid is seen on the side of the road in the town of Orum al-Kubra on the western outskirts of the northern Syrian city of Aleppo on September 20, 2016, the morning after a convoy delivering aid was hit by a deadly air strike. © Omar Haj Kadour / AFP

O ministerio de Defesa Russo divulgou hoje um video da caravana de camioes de ajuda humanitaria onde se ve claramente que e acompanhado por um veiculo com morteiro de grande calibre.

Russian MoD Releases Footage of Attacked UN Aid Convoy in Syria's Aleppo (VIDEO)
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160920/1045521488/aleppo-un-convoy.html

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"The examination of the video footage made via drones of the movement of the humanitarian convoy in areas controlled by militants in the province of Aleppo has revealed new details. The video clearly shows how terrorists are redeploying a pickup with a large-caliber mortar on it using the convoy as a cover," Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.

The ministry emphasized that the perpetrator of the fire, as well as his goal may be known by members of the "White Helmets" organization that allegedly has connection to al-Nusra Front terrorists who have "accidentally" been at the right time and in the right place with cameras.

According to the official, al-Nusra Front terrorist group carried out an artillery attack on the southwestern suburb of Aleppo using multiple launch rocket systems.


O ataque final aconteceu de noite. Continuo sem perceber como e que um "activista" (nao identificado,zero de credibilidade) consegue ver que os avioes de reconhecimento sao russos. E mais grave nao tem nenhum video que comprove ataque a partir de helicopteros.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37417898
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A media activist who witnessed the attack told the BBC Arabic service that Russian reconnaissance planes had been spotted, apparently filming the passage of the convoy.

He said the first strike came at about 19:00 local time on Monday, when a helicopter dropped several barrel bombs. This was followed by rocket and machine-gun fire from aircraft, he said.


Segundo a propria BBC (que ironia) as Nacoes Unidas nem confirmam ter-se tratado de ataques aereos.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37417898
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The UN would not confirm what type of attack took place, saying "we are not in a position to determine whether these were in fact air strikes"

So a propaganda da turma americana neste forum, os media do sistema, e os terroristas e que ja sabem de tudo - foi um ataque aereo e foram os russos (claro). Esse argumento baseado em nada, sem nenhuma prova e ridiculo.  Resta saber se gostam de ser comidos por parvos ou querem comer os outros por parvos.
« Última modificação: Setembro 20, 2016, 09:14:22 pm por Pedro E. »
 

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Re: Guerra na Síria
« Responder #3134 em: Setembro 20, 2016, 10:06:50 pm »
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"The examination of the video footage made via drones of the movement of the humanitarian convoy in areas controlled by militants in the province of Aleppo has revealed new details. The video clearly shows how terrorists are redeploying a pickup with a large-caliber mortar on it using the convoy as a cover," Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.

A última versão do ataque de Vladimir Vladimirovich.  A massacre ocorreu porque a coluna humanitária incluía um morteiro. Insuperável o cinismo do ex-agente do KGB.