Citação de: Cabeça de Martelo em Abril 19, 2024, 02:45:34 pmUm jpg antigo, para fazermos um resumo das alterações em curso:CitarThe radar should have a maximum calculated range of 120NM (222.24 km) for the detection of aerial targetsKRONOS naval multifunctional radar - Air and surface surveillance up to 250kmhttps://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/18327106/KRONOS+Naval+Radar+%28mm07664%29+2022+2.pdf?t=1671029132841TRS-4D Rotator - Instrumented range: 250 kmhttps://dam.hensoldt.net/m/1cc7b53da977b083/original/TRS-4D-Datasheet-english.pdfTACTAS (MAX weight 10 tons): https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/0/ATAS_NR.pdf?t=1685007556352CitarThe ATAS is subdivided into modules of less than three tonnes for it to be easily transferable from one ship to another, although procured initially to equip the PPA ‘Full combatant’ platforms, the first of which is to be delivered in 2024. It has an overall weight of less than 9 tonnes, being composed of a Launch and Recovery System (LARS) less than 2 m high, towed body and array, power and processing electronics cabinets, local console.The Captas-1 is the smallest member of the Captas family of towed sonars by Thales.Citar CAPTAS-1 with a typical detection range up to 30 km, for installation on OPVs weighing about 800 tonnes, using a single dependent tow for both the active sonar source and a triplet receiver array with a <16 m2 deck footprint and weighing 7.3 tonnes.Ultra Sea SabreInstallation Mass (Active / Passive) - 12107 / 8815 kg https://www.ultra.group/media/2522/sea-sabre-datasheet_final.pdfHá mais radares e sonares que cumprem ou superam os requisitos, eu limitei-me a colocar alguns.isso é de onde?
Um jpg antigo, para fazermos um resumo das alterações em curso:CitarThe radar should have a maximum calculated range of 120NM (222.24 km) for the detection of aerial targetsKRONOS naval multifunctional radar - Air and surface surveillance up to 250kmhttps://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/18327106/KRONOS+Naval+Radar+%28mm07664%29+2022+2.pdf?t=1671029132841TRS-4D Rotator - Instrumented range: 250 kmhttps://dam.hensoldt.net/m/1cc7b53da977b083/original/TRS-4D-Datasheet-english.pdfTACTAS (MAX weight 10 tons): https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/0/ATAS_NR.pdf?t=1685007556352CitarThe ATAS is subdivided into modules of less than three tonnes for it to be easily transferable from one ship to another, although procured initially to equip the PPA ‘Full combatant’ platforms, the first of which is to be delivered in 2024. It has an overall weight of less than 9 tonnes, being composed of a Launch and Recovery System (LARS) less than 2 m high, towed body and array, power and processing electronics cabinets, local console.The Captas-1 is the smallest member of the Captas family of towed sonars by Thales.Citar CAPTAS-1 with a typical detection range up to 30 km, for installation on OPVs weighing about 800 tonnes, using a single dependent tow for both the active sonar source and a triplet receiver array with a <16 m2 deck footprint and weighing 7.3 tonnes.Ultra Sea SabreInstallation Mass (Active / Passive) - 12107 / 8815 kg https://www.ultra.group/media/2522/sea-sabre-datasheet_final.pdfHá mais radares e sonares que cumprem ou superam os requisitos, eu limitei-me a colocar alguns.
The radar should have a maximum calculated range of 120NM (222.24 km) for the detection of aerial targets
The ATAS is subdivided into modules of less than three tonnes for it to be easily transferable from one ship to another, although procured initially to equip the PPA ‘Full combatant’ platforms, the first of which is to be delivered in 2024. It has an overall weight of less than 9 tonnes, being composed of a Launch and Recovery System (LARS) less than 2 m high, towed body and array, power and processing electronics cabinets, local console.
CAPTAS-1 with a typical detection range up to 30 km, for installation on OPVs weighing about 800 tonnes, using a single dependent tow for both the active sonar source and a triplet receiver array with a <16 m2 deck footprint and weighing 7.3 tonnes.
As VdG recusam-se a morrer e a Marinha/governo recusam matá-las... temos zumbis/mutantes para 200 anos sem problemas!*Please note RFP Milestone Dates and required documents to be included in bids as noted in theBidding Instructions as follows:Milestones:1. Bidders’ Conference Registration Due: 30 April 20242. Bidders’ Conference: 13-17 May 20243. Last Bidder Questions: 2 June 20244. Bid Closing: 30 June 2024* referência a "Fallout".
Neste momento a classe VdG têm os radares DA-08 (2D, Médio/Longo alcance) e o MW-08 (3D, Médio/ Curto alcance); A classe BD têm LW-08 (2D Médio/ Longo alcance) e SMART-S (3D Médio/ Curto alcance), certo?CitarThe Thales LW08 is a 2-D radar system that equips the cruiser, a radar that performs the long-range air surveillance in D-band (L-band), providing target indication to weapon control systems. LW08 presents a clear picture of the environment; it does so, reliably, under any circumstances. LW08 performs with great frequency agility over a wide band, due to its synthesizer-driven TWT transmitter. Excellent performance under various clutter conditions is ensured by the wide dynamic range receiver with application of digital video processing, supported by circular polarization. The LW08 antenna has a low side-lobe level, which assists the system in operating under ECM conditions. The radar can detect a small missile from 100km or a fighter aircraft from 230km flying with Mach 4 while the tracking capacity is 400 tracks. Minimum range is 2km.The Thales DA-08 2-D radar is a coherent E/F-band (S-band) radar for medium range surveillance, providing target indication to weapon control systems. This radar derives from the LW-08. DA 08 is located on the foremast and it presents a clear picture of the environment; it does so, reliably, under any circumstances with accuracy; and it does it without adding great weight to the superstructure of the ship due to its lightweight construction and hydraulically controlled stabilization platform. Excellent performance under various clutter conditions is ensured by the wide dynamic range receiver with application of digital video processing, supported by circular polarization. The DA-08 antenna has a low side-lobe level, which assists the system in operating under ECM conditions. Claimed range on a 2m² target is 78-92n.m. and minimum range is 0.8n.m.Pelo que percebo o MW-08 das VdG vai ser substituído, em principio por algo necessariamente melhor - que o "idoso" - SMART-S da classe BD? E, talvez, com um 2D LPI? E com um, também novo, "tracking & Illuminator Radar"? Ficam assim com melhores sensores "radar" que a classe BD? Mas sem VLS e (talvez) Vigile D?
The Thales LW08 is a 2-D radar system that equips the cruiser, a radar that performs the long-range air surveillance in D-band (L-band), providing target indication to weapon control systems. LW08 presents a clear picture of the environment; it does so, reliably, under any circumstances. LW08 performs with great frequency agility over a wide band, due to its synthesizer-driven TWT transmitter. Excellent performance under various clutter conditions is ensured by the wide dynamic range receiver with application of digital video processing, supported by circular polarization. The LW08 antenna has a low side-lobe level, which assists the system in operating under ECM conditions. The radar can detect a small missile from 100km or a fighter aircraft from 230km flying with Mach 4 while the tracking capacity is 400 tracks. Minimum range is 2km.The Thales DA-08 2-D radar is a coherent E/F-band (S-band) radar for medium range surveillance, providing target indication to weapon control systems. This radar derives from the LW-08. DA 08 is located on the foremast and it presents a clear picture of the environment; it does so, reliably, under any circumstances with accuracy; and it does it without adding great weight to the superstructure of the ship due to its lightweight construction and hydraulically controlled stabilization platform. Excellent performance under various clutter conditions is ensured by the wide dynamic range receiver with application of digital video processing, supported by circular polarization. The DA-08 antenna has a low side-lobe level, which assists the system in operating under ECM conditions. Claimed range on a 2m² target is 78-92n.m. and minimum range is 0.8n.m.
Citação de: Drecas em Abril 19, 2024, 03:55:54 pmCitação de: Cabeça de Martelo em Abril 19, 2024, 02:45:34 pmUm jpg antigo, para fazermos um resumo das alterações em curso:CitarThe radar should have a maximum calculated range of 120NM (222.24 km) for the detection of aerial targetsKRONOS naval multifunctional radar - Air and surface surveillance up to 250kmhttps://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/18327106/KRONOS+Naval+Radar+%28mm07664%29+2022+2.pdf?t=1671029132841TRS-4D Rotator - Instrumented range: 250 kmhttps://dam.hensoldt.net/m/1cc7b53da977b083/original/TRS-4D-Datasheet-english.pdfTACTAS (MAX weight 10 tons): https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/0/ATAS_NR.pdf?t=1685007556352CitarThe ATAS is subdivided into modules of less than three tonnes for it to be easily transferable from one ship to another, although procured initially to equip the PPA ‘Full combatant’ platforms, the first of which is to be delivered in 2024. It has an overall weight of less than 9 tonnes, being composed of a Launch and Recovery System (LARS) less than 2 m high, towed body and array, power and processing electronics cabinets, local console.The Captas-1 is the smallest member of the Captas family of towed sonars by Thales.Citar CAPTAS-1 with a typical detection range up to 30 km, for installation on OPVs weighing about 800 tonnes, using a single dependent tow for both the active sonar source and a triplet receiver array with a <16 m2 deck footprint and weighing 7.3 tonnes.Ultra Sea SabreInstallation Mass (Active / Passive) - 12107 / 8815 kg https://www.ultra.group/media/2522/sea-sabre-datasheet_final.pdfHá mais radares e sonares que cumprem ou superam os requisitos, eu limitei-me a colocar alguns.isso é de onde?O saabGripen deu a novidade que o programa tinha voltado...Vai ao site da NSPA, pesquisa por "FFGH MLU/OPV SEWACO Acquisition, Install, Integration & ILS" que tens lá toda a informação. Os concorrentes têm até junho para finalizar as propostas.Citação de: Cabeça de Martelo em Abril 19, 2024, 12:49:36 pmAs VdG recusam-se a morrer e a Marinha/governo recusam matá-las... temos zumbis/mutantes para 200 anos sem problemas!*Please note RFP Milestone Dates and required documents to be included in bids as noted in theBidding Instructions as follows:Milestones:1. Bidders’ Conference Registration Due: 30 April 20242. Bidders’ Conference: 13-17 May 20243. Last Bidder Questions: 2 June 20244. Bid Closing: 30 June 2024* referência a "Fallout".
Percebi bem ou inclui upgrade ao equipamento e armamento? Isso fica para aí em mais de 100 milenas por navio. Penso eu de que.Saudações
Citação de: LM em Abril 19, 2024, 04:04:29 pmNeste momento a classe VdG têm os radares DA-08 (2D, Médio/Longo alcance) e o MW-08 (3D, Médio/ Curto alcance); A classe BD têm LW-08 (2D Médio/ Longo alcance) e SMART-S (3D Médio/ Curto alcance), certo?CitarThe Thales LW08 is a 2-D radar system that equips the cruiser, a radar that performs the long-range air surveillance in D-band (L-band), providing target indication to weapon control systems. LW08 presents a clear picture of the environment; it does so, reliably, under any circumstances. LW08 performs with great frequency agility over a wide band, due to its synthesizer-driven TWT transmitter. Excellent performance under various clutter conditions is ensured by the wide dynamic range receiver with application of digital video processing, supported by circular polarization. The LW08 antenna has a low side-lobe level, which assists the system in operating under ECM conditions. The radar can detect a small missile from 100km or a fighter aircraft from 230km flying with Mach 4 while the tracking capacity is 400 tracks. Minimum range is 2km.The Thales DA-08 2-D radar is a coherent E/F-band (S-band) radar for medium range surveillance, providing target indication to weapon control systems. This radar derives from the LW-08. DA 08 is located on the foremast and it presents a clear picture of the environment; it does so, reliably, under any circumstances with accuracy; and it does it without adding great weight to the superstructure of the ship due to its lightweight construction and hydraulically controlled stabilization platform. Excellent performance under various clutter conditions is ensured by the wide dynamic range receiver with application of digital video processing, supported by circular polarization. The DA-08 antenna has a low side-lobe level, which assists the system in operating under ECM conditions. Claimed range on a 2m² target is 78-92n.m. and minimum range is 0.8n.m.Pelo que percebo o MW-08 das VdG vai ser substituído, em principio por algo necessariamente melhor - que o "idoso" - SMART-S da classe BD? E, talvez, com um 2D LPI? E com um, também novo, "tracking & Illuminator Radar"? Ficam assim com melhores sensores "radar" que a classe BD? Mas sem VLS e (talvez) Vigile D? Eu não sou a melhor fonte, mas lendo os requisitos o novo radar deve estar mais ou menos ao mesmo nível do SMART-S. Não sei se vai ser o Vigile D, já que para isso era preciso que a Thales levasse o contrato, mas será material novo.
Citação de: LM em Abril 19, 2024, 04:04:29 pmNeste momento a classe VdG têm os radares DA-08 (2D, Médio/Longo alcance) e o MW-08 (3D, Médio/ Curto alcance); A classe BD têm LW-08 (2D Médio/ Longo alcance) e SMART-S (3D Médio/ Curto alcance), certo?CitarThe Thales LW08 is a 2-D radar system that equips the cruiser, a radar that performs the long-range air surveillance in D-band (L-band), providing target indication to weapon control systems. LW08 presents a clear picture of the environment; it does so, reliably, under any circumstances. LW08 performs with great frequency agility over a wide band, due to its synthesizer-driven TWT transmitter. Excellent performance under various clutter conditions is ensured by the wide dynamic range receiver with application of digital video processing, supported by circular polarization. The LW08 antenna has a low side-lobe level, which assists the system in operating under ECM conditions. The radar can detect a small missile from 100km or a fighter aircraft from 230km flying with Mach 4 while the tracking capacity is 400 tracks. Minimum range is 2km.The Thales DA-08 2-D radar is a coherent E/F-band (S-band) radar for medium range surveillance, providing target indication to weapon control systems. This radar derives from the LW-08. DA 08 is located on the foremast and it presents a clear picture of the environment; it does so, reliably, under any circumstances with accuracy; and it does it without adding great weight to the superstructure of the ship due to its lightweight construction and hydraulically controlled stabilization platform. Excellent performance under various clutter conditions is ensured by the wide dynamic range receiver with application of digital video processing, supported by circular polarization. The DA-08 antenna has a low side-lobe level, which assists the system in operating under ECM conditions. Claimed range on a 2m² target is 78-92n.m. and minimum range is 0.8n.m.Pelo que percebo o MW-08 das VdG vai ser substituído, em principio por algo necessariamente melhor - que o "idoso" - SMART-S da classe BD? E, talvez, com um 2D LPI? E com um, também novo, "tracking & Illuminator Radar"? Ficam assim com melhores sensores "radar" que a classe BD? Mas sem VLS e (talvez) Vigile D? Se o objetivo é modernizar as VdG para durarem até 2035 (o que é um erro, deviamos avançar para a substituição das VdG nos proximos anos...) e vamos investir em novos radares e sensores, então que se invista num modulo VLS para ESSM. Não faz sentido é investir na modernização das fragatas e continuar apenas com um lançador de 8 Sea Sparrow...
Claimed range on a 2m² target is 78-92n.m. and minimum range is 0.8n.m.
In ICAO standard atmosphere, the radar shall detect targets with an RCS of 3 m² up to a range of at least 50 NM with a detection probability of at least 80% combined with a false alarm rate of no more than 10^-6 for each scan.
https://www.thalesdsi.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Smart-S-Data-Sheet.pdf
Pois,Alguns bonecos, andaram a brincar e as M holandesas já terão destino.Agora é aguentar com os chassos até, pelo menos ... 2035 !
Citação de: Cabeça de Martelo em Abril 19, 2024, 05:56:21 pmhttps://www.thalesdsi.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Smart-S-Data-Sheet.pdfEste é o S-Mk2, os instalados na classe BD são S "apenas"...
