Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)

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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #75 em: Setembro 26, 2021, 02:26:09 pm »
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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #76 em: Setembro 26, 2021, 02:38:53 pm »
Então já vai ser 3 fragatas e 3 corvetas!? Já não percebo nada....
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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #77 em: Setembro 27, 2021, 11:00:31 am »
Por enquanto é diz que disse

Mas o D_Mitch é grego e provavelmente sabe coisas...

e daqui:


FDI frigate (left) and Gowind corvette (right).
FDI Frigates And Gowind Corvettes For Greece ?
Several Greek media reported over the weekend that Greece would be on the verge of selecting a French offer for the Hellenic Navy new frigate requirement. The offer would consist of FDI (Belharra) frigates and Gowind corvettes.
Lorenzo Tual  27 Sep 2021

The offer would be for 3 FDI-HN frigates and 3 Gowind corvettes.

Lorenzo Tual story with additional reporting by Xavier Vavasseur

According to the sources (among them, Militaire, Defence Review and Naval Defence) the offer would be for 3 FDI-HN frigates and 3 Gowind corvettes. Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis would stop in Paris this afternoon, on his way back from the UN general assembly held in New York last week.

Contacted by Naval News this morning, a source with knowledge of the matter explained that the visit of Mr. Mitsotakis is not “last minute” but instead, was a long planned one: The Greek Prime Minister is set to inaugurate a new exposition on Greece at the Louvres Museum this afternoon. That being said, there may be a meeting between Greek and French authorities regarding the frigate deal, on the verge of this official visit, and an announcement (but not an official signature) may be made at the end of this meeting. We also learned that a large delegation (including Naval Group’s CEO) visited Greece last week to further advance the negotiations. Contacted by Naval News, Naval Group refused to comment on the latest rumors.

This new turn of events would come at the most opportune time for Naval Group, still shocked by the sudden cancelation of the so-called “contract of the century”, Australia’s Attack-class submarine program.

This would follow the logic of the shortlist released some months ago, which we covered here, where the French offer was placed in the top category along with the Dutch offer from Damen and the Italian one from Fincantieri. We previously analyzed in detail all three ships in this article

It would end this long running effort from Naval Group to sell the FDI in Greece, following the bilateral talks that soon transformed into a dual competition with Lockeed Martin, only to merge into an international contract featuring all of the world’s greatest shipbuilders.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/09/new-development-in-greece-french-frigates-for-the-future-hellenic-navy/
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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #78 em: Setembro 27, 2021, 02:43:06 pm »
Então qual será a solução intermedia que os Gregos pedem!? As Gowind ou umas fragatas francesas de emprestimo?
Eles não queriam uma solução para já? É que construir as corvetas demora no minimo 3 anos.
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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #79 em: Setembro 27, 2021, 08:15:08 pm »
Então qual será a solução intermedia que os Gregos pedem!? As Gowind ou umas fragatas francesas de emprestimo?
Eles não queriam uma solução para já? É que construir as corvetas demora no minimo 3 anos.
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Não era o Jean Bart e mais outro destroyer como stop Gap?
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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #80 em: Setembro 27, 2021, 08:38:37 pm »
Então qual será a solução intermedia que os Gregos pedem!? As Gowind ou umas fragatas francesas de emprestimo?
Eles não queriam uma solução para já? É que construir as corvetas demora no minimo 3 anos.
 :-P

Não era o Jean Bart e mais outro destroyer como stop Gap?


Seria o Jean Bart e mais o Latouche-Tréville!? Esse tambem vai sair do activo em 2022.
Eu pensava que sim, mas estarem a incluir corvetas á ultima da hora.
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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #81 em: Setembro 27, 2021, 11:47:35 pm »
Por enquanto é diz que disse

Mas o D_Mitch é grego e provavelmente sabe coisas...

e daqui:


FDI frigate (left) and Gowind corvette (right).
FDI Frigates And Gowind Corvettes For Greece ?
Several Greek media reported over the weekend that Greece would be on the verge of selecting a French offer for the Hellenic Navy new frigate requirement. The offer would consist of FDI (Belharra) frigates and Gowind corvettes.
Lorenzo Tual  27 Sep 2021

The offer would be for 3 FDI-HN frigates and 3 Gowind corvettes.

Lorenzo Tual story with additional reporting by Xavier Vavasseur

According to the sources (among them, Militaire, Defence Review and Naval Defence) the offer would be for 3 FDI-HN frigates and 3 Gowind corvettes. Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis would stop in Paris this afternoon, on his way back from the UN general assembly held in New York last week.

Contacted by Naval News this morning, a source with knowledge of the matter explained that the visit of Mr. Mitsotakis is not “last minute” but instead, was a long planned one: The Greek Prime Minister is set to inaugurate a new exposition on Greece at the Louvres Museum this afternoon. That being said, there may be a meeting between Greek and French authorities regarding the frigate deal, on the verge of this official visit, and an announcement (but not an official signature) may be made at the end of this meeting. We also learned that a large delegation (including Naval Group’s CEO) visited Greece last week to further advance the negotiations. Contacted by Naval News, Naval Group refused to comment on the latest rumors.

This new turn of events would come at the most opportune time for Naval Group, still shocked by the sudden cancelation of the so-called “contract of the century”, Australia’s Attack-class submarine program.

This would follow the logic of the shortlist released some months ago, which we covered here, where the French offer was placed in the top category along with the Dutch offer from Damen and the Italian one from Fincantieri. We previously analyzed in detail all three ships in this article

It would end this long running effort from Naval Group to sell the FDI in Greece, following the bilateral talks that soon transformed into a dual competition with Lockeed Martin, only to merge into an international contract featuring all of the world’s greatest shipbuilders.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/09/new-development-in-greece-french-frigates-for-the-future-hellenic-navy/

Quem nos dera a nós, 3 Belh@ra ou 3 FREEM e 3 Gowind 2500 ou 3000, ainda por cima estas ultimas podem ser equipadas com ESSM Block II.
 

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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #82 em: Setembro 28, 2021, 09:04:30 am »
Então qual será a solução intermedia que os Gregos pedem!? As Gowind ou umas fragatas francesas de emprestimo?
Eles não queriam uma solução para já? É que construir as corvetas demora no minimo 3 anos.
 :-P

Não era o Jean Bart e mais outro destroyer como stop Gap?


Seria o Jean Bart e mais o Latouche-Tréville!? Esse tambem vai sair do activo em 2022.
Eu pensava que sim, mas estarem a incluir corvetas á ultima da hora.
 :-P

Acho que não faz parte do acordo incluirem corvetas como "stop gap", sempre se falou dos 2 destroyers, assim como os holandeses propunham as 2 M, os ingleses 2 Type 23
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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #83 em: Setembro 28, 2021, 09:13:33 am »
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These corvettes are offered instead of the modernisation of the MEKO frigates. The modernisation was planned to cost around a Billion euros, while a Gowind 2500 is estimated at around 350 millions euros, for completely new ships. 

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/09/new-development-in-greece-french-frigates-for-the-future-hellenic-navy/
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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #84 em: Setembro 28, 2021, 09:26:29 am »
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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #85 em: Setembro 28, 2021, 09:38:43 am »
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The leaders of Greece and France are expected to announce a major, multibillion-euro deal in Paris involving the acquisition by Greece of at least six French-built warships, Greek state ERT TV reported.
Greece planned to acquire three French FDI frigates - with the option of later buying a fourth -and another three corvettes, ERT reported on Monday.

Greece has already bought 18 French Rafale fighter jets and plans to purchase another six under a program to modernise its armed forces amid tensions with neighbouring Turkey.
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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #86 em: Setembro 28, 2021, 10:42:12 am »
Conforme Gowind 2500, a 300 a 350 milhões por unidade, nada mau ....E com capacidades bem superiores as VDG.
 

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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #87 em: Setembro 28, 2021, 10:51:13 am »
Podemos comprar as Meko gregas  :mrgreen:
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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #88 em: Setembro 28, 2021, 02:19:05 pm »
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Greece signs a Memorandum of Understanding with Naval Group and MBDA opening negotiations for the supply of three FDI HNs and one optional

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28 SEPTEMBER 2021 GROUP INTERNATIONAL SURFACE SHIPS PRESS RELEASE


 Greece signs a Memorandum of Understanding with Naval Group and MBDA opening negotiations for the supply of three FDI HNs and one optional

On September 28th, Nikólaos Panayotópoulos, the Greek Minister of Defence, Pierre Eric Pommellet, CEO of Naval Group, and Eric Béranger, CEO of MBDA, signed a Memorandum of Understanding to open negotiations to provide the Hellenic Navy (HN) with three Defence and Intervention frigates (FDI HN) and their equipment as well as an optional additional frigate.

The FDI HN frigates will be built in the Naval Group shipyard in Lorient, where the second in the series for the French Navy has just entered production.

The FDI HN will be an asset of power and sovereignity for Greece.

With the FDI HN, the Hellenic Navy will have a state-of-the-art, high-performance surface fleet.

As a first-rank frigate, the FDI HN is a compendium of the best technologies of Naval Group, Thales and MBDA, which will notably supply the ASTER 30 B1 and Exocet MM40 Block 3C missiles. It will be fully interoperable with European and NATO fleets.

Greece will become the second customer of this multi-mission frigate, bringing the number of units produced from five for the French Navy to eight in total, plus one as an option.


https://www.naval-group.com/en/greece-signs-memorandum-understanding-naval-group-and-mbda-opening-negotiations-supply-three-fdi
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Re: Marinha Grega (Hellenic Navy)
« Responder #89 em: Setembro 28, 2021, 02:29:23 pm »
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These corvettes are offered instead of the modernisation of the MEKO frigates. The modernisation was planned to cost around a Billion euros, while a Gowind 2500 is estimated at around 350 millions euros, for completely new ships. 

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/09/new-development-in-greece-french-frigates-for-the-future-hellenic-navy/


Ah, assim já tem mais sentido. Bem, ficam com navios mais novos ao menos....
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