Israel vs Irão

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Israel vs Irão
« em: Junho 11, 2022, 11:34:01 pm »
Estamos a dias de uma invasão preventiva....
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Re: Israel vs Iran
« Responder #1 em: Junho 15, 2022, 08:30:14 pm »
 

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Re: Israel vs Iran
« Responder #2 em: Janeiro 05, 2023, 11:52:23 am »
F-35 (Israel) x SU-35 (Irão): A performance superior do FLANKER pode superar a furtividade do F-35?


 

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Re: Israel vs Iran
« Responder #3 em: Janeiro 31, 2023, 03:06:16 pm »
Mossad carried out Iran defense facility strike for Israel’s own interests — report

US officials tell NYT drone attack not aimed at stopping weapons exports to Russia; ex-PM Bennett says he intensified Iran strikes after plot to kill Israelis in Turkey, Cyprus


Screen grab from an unverified video circulating on social media said to show explosion at a defense facility in Iran's Isfahan after an alleged drone strike, January 28, 2023. (Used in accordance with Clause 27a of the Copyright Law)

The drone attack on a defense facility in the Iranian city of Isfahan was carried out by Israel to protect its own security interests, and not to prevent weapons exports to Russia, according to a New York Times report on Sunday.

The Saturday strike was carried out by the Mossad intelligence agency, according to the newspaper, which cited senior United States intelligence officials.

The report noted that Isfahan is a hub for Tehran’s missile industry, and is where the Shahab medium-range missile — which has a range capable of hitting Israel — is assembled.

Iran has yet to deliver missiles to Russia despite reports since October that it plans to do so, but Tehran has been supplying Shahed-136 suicide drones for the Kremlin’s use in the nearly year-long invasion of Ukraine.

The “kamikaze” drones have been deployed to attack Ukrainian civilian sites and critical infrastructure facilities since September. Some reports have said that the alleged Israeli strike targeted Iran’s drone program.

An Iranian Defense Ministry statement described three drones being launched at the facility on Saturday, with two of them successfully shot down. A third apparently made it through to strike the building, causing “minor damage” to its roof and wounding no one, the ministry said.


A drone is seen in the sky seconds before it fired on buildings in Kyiv, Ukraine, on October 17, 2022. (AP Photo/Efrem Lukatsky)

London-based opposition Iranian news outlet Iran International cited eyewitnesses as saying that they saw three or four explosions.

The state-run IRNA news agency later described the drones as “quadcopters equipped with bomblets.” Quadcopters, which get their name from having four rotors, typically operate from short ranges by remote control. Iranian state television later aired footage of debris from the drones, which resembled commercially available quadcopters.

The drones have been used in past attacks inside Iran, such as a June 2021 attack on a centrifuge manufacturing center in Karaj, and a February 2022 attack on a military drone storage and manufacturing facility in Kermanshah — attacks which were also attributed to Israel by several media outlets.

US officials said on Sunday that Washington was not behind the strike.

It was the first alleged Israeli strike inside Iran since Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu returned to office, and may mark his continuation of the previous government’s policy, which intensified Jerusalem’s attacks inside the Islamic Republic.

Former prime minister Naftali Bennett said in an upcoming YouTube video shared with The New York Times that he decided to “create a price tag” and increase activities inside Iran following Tehran’s attempts “to murder Israelis in Cyprus, in Turkey” in 2022.

Bennett said that in the wake of the plot, the Revolutionary Guard Corps commander behind the attempted attacks was “eliminated” — a reference to the killing of Col. Hassan Sayyad Khodaei last May.

Bennett said he refused US President Joe Biden’s request for Jerusalem to notify Washington before such strikes took place.

“There are things you do not want to know about in advance,” Bennett recalled telling Biden.

A Wall Street Journal report which also pointed the finger at Israel for the Isfahan strike noted the timing of the attack came at the same time that talks between Jerusalem and Washington are aimed at finding new ways to counter Tehran’s nuclear program. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is set to arrive in Israel on Monday.

Iran condemned the attack, calling it “cowardly,” and accused Iran’s enemies of trying to sow insecurity in the Islamic Republic.

“This cowardly act was carried out today as part of the efforts made by enemies of the Iranian nation in recent months to make the Islamic Republic insecure,” Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian said Sunday at a press conference.

The US recently indicated that it would be taking a more aggressive approach toward Tehran, including on its drone supply program to Russia.

The Biden administration has also signaled that it had abandoned the possibility of reviving a deal with Iran over its nuclear program, known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, which then-US president Donald Trump withdrew from in 2018. Trump then instituted a “maximum pressure” sanctions regime, targeting various Iranian sectors, leading Tehran to respond by expanding its nuclear program in violation of the JCPOA.

Iran’s cooperation with Russia in the latter’s invasion of Ukraine, as well as the violent crackdown on anti-regime protests that have swept Iran since mid-September, have also played a role in Washington’s more assertive approach.

Last week, Israel and the US kicked off a large-scale joint exercise in Israel and over the eastern Mediterranean Sea, reportedly aimed at showing adversaries, such as Iran, that Washington is not too distracted by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and threats from China to mobilize a large military force.

Netanyahu, who during his last term as premier ordered numerous strikes on Iranian targets in Syria and operations on Iranian soil, has been open about his intention to oppose Tehran’s nuclear aspirations at any cost.

In November, a longtime ally of Netanyahu said in an interview that he believed the prime minister would order a strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities if the US does not secure a new nuclear deal with Tehran and fails to take action itself in the near future.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-carried-out-iran-defense-facility-strike-for-israels-own-interests-report/
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Re: Israel vs Iran
« Responder #4 em: Maio 06, 2023, 10:18:57 am »
Israel cada vez mais ameaçado pelo poder aéreo iraniano: Além do SU-35, SU-30 será fabricado no Irão?


 

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Re: Israel vs Iran
« Responder #5 em: Maio 06, 2023, 10:59:54 am »
Mais alvos para a IAF.
Talent de ne rien faire
 

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Re: Israel vs Iran
« Responder #6 em: Maio 27, 2023, 07:25:34 pm »
 

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Re: Israel vs Iran
« Responder #7 em: Abril 14, 2024, 10:10:23 am »
Operação “Promessa Verdadeira”. Irão lança mais de 200 drones e mísseis contra Israel


 

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Re: Israel vs Iran
« Responder #9 em: Abril 14, 2024, 11:36:32 pm »
O futuro ..

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We are now living in the Iranian drone war era. It is an era that has been coming like a slow train for many years. Iran increased its drone power while many countries watched and did not view this as a major threat.

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For Israelis sitting home on the evening of April 13 it has been a surreal feeling, knowing that drones are on the way but that they can take many hours to arrive. This is a unique form of warfare, one where a large amount of warning can happen ahead of time.

However, that may give the appearance that it is less of a threat. That is not the case. Large swarms of drones are a major threat and Iran is pioneering this threat. 

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/the-iran-drone-war-is-now-here-796850
 

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Re: Israel vs Iran
« Responder #10 em: Abril 14, 2024, 11:57:46 pm »
Excepto que, essencialmente, a única coisa que passou pelas defesas (e mesmo assim de forma limitada) foram os "clássicos" mísseis balísticos...

Os drones são mais uma forma de atacar um adversário. Uma ameaça séria, claro, mas mesmo assim algo limitada no poder destrutivo (principalmente se compararmos com um número equivalente de mísseis balísticos). Os drones permitem é saturar, e obrigar ao gasto (das munições) das defesas aéreas de um país.

O perigo dos drones atingirá o pico, não só quando a IA estiver metida ao barulho, mas também quando atingirem velocidades mais altas. Drones que mantenham aproximadamente as dimensões dos típicos drones kamikazi que nós vemos, mas que atinjam velocidades a rondar os 400/500 km/h serão uma ameaça muito maior.
 

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Re: Israel vs Iran
« Responder #12 em: Abril 15, 2024, 06:27:23 pm »
Citação de: Axios
Israel defense minister to Pentagon: No choice but to retaliate against Iran

Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant told Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin Sunday that Israel has no choice but to respond to the unprecedented missile and drone attack launched by Iran over the weekend, a U.S. official and another source briefed on the call told Axios.

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Fonte: Axios
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Re: Israel vs Iran
« Responder #13 em: Abril 15, 2024, 11:29:42 pm »
Resta saber como será feito, e se mais alguém se irá envolver.
 

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Re: Israel vs Iran
« Responder #14 em: Abril 16, 2024, 12:30:15 pm »
Uma das coisas mais curiosas neste ataque iraniano, foi o apoio tácito que Israel teve.
Não só os jordanos encerraram o seu espaço aéreo para permitir o ataque aos drones, como a Arábia Saudita e os Emiratos, passaram informação recolhida pelos seus radares, para facilitar a destruição dos ditos.

Os iranianos, deram conta de que perceberam o problema, porque ainda não tinham declarado o ataque como encerrado e já avisavam que quem ajudasse Israel seria atacado ou atrairia a raiva do regime dos Aiatolás.

Os drones, violam diretamente o espaço aéreo de um país, e os iranianos ao atacarem Israel, utilizaram claramente o espaço aéreo da Jordânia e também da Arábia Saudita e Iraque.
Isto em termos de diplomacia é considerado de muito mau tom.
Certamente que os árabes não gostaram mesmo nada ...

Esta situação também vem colocar a nu, a falta de suporte do que há alguns meses os analistas desavisados afirmavam ser prova da decadencia dos americanos:
A iniciativa diplomatica dos chineses para levar sauditas e iranianos a entender-se.

Acordos entre Persas e Árabes, e ao mesmo tempo entre Sunitas e Xiitas, são provavelmente uma espécie de quadratura do círculo.
Os chineses, estão completamente por fora ...

Os sauditas não vão apoiar qualquer ataque de Israel contra o Irão, a não ser que os israelitas estejam determinados a desferir um ataque devastador contra o programa nuclear iraniano.

E se o Irão tiver a bomba, a Arábia Saudita, também a vai ter. É só ir ali ao lado ao Paquistão.
É muito mais fácil enganar uma pessoa, que explicar-lhe que foi enganada ...