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Enviado por: luis filipe silva em Agosto 14, 2006, 09:49:56 pm
Dois projectos concorrentes para o novo destroyer australiano.

http://www.defence.gov.au/media/downloa ... 060803.cfm (http://www.defence.gov.au/media/download/2006/Aug/20060803.cfm)

Obrigado Luso.
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Enviado por: Luso em Agosto 14, 2006, 10:01:36 pm
Enganou-se na ligação, Luis...
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Enviado por: Rui Elias em Março 06, 2007, 11:23:09 am
Espanhola NAVANTIA ganha vantagem sobre a Gibbs & Cox, para a construção das fragatas de defesa aérea australianas?


 
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Spain leads for $7bn navy contract

* Patrick Walters, National security editor
* March 01, 2007

SPAIN is poised to win the contest to design the navy's new air warfare destroyers, destined to be the biggest and most advanced warships in its fleet.
As the race to win the contract to design the three vessels enters its final weeks, state-owned Spanish naval builder Navantia is heading its US rival on price and delivery time.

The $7 billion program will be Australia's second-biggest defence project in the coming decade, after the $14 billion joint strike fighter for the air force.

Long regarded as simply a stalking horse for a new warship designed by US firm Gibbs and Cox based on the US Navy's Arleigh Burke class destroyers, Spain's modified F100 warship is now an even-money bet to win the contract.

The Spanish ship is much cheaper and would be delivered about two years earlier than the US design submitted by Gibbs and Cox.

Gibbs and Cox has been the Howard Government's preferred designer for the air warfare destroyers, but the firm's bigger and more capable warship exists only in its preliminary design phase.

And final target cost estimates due to be handed to the Defence Department tomorrow are expected to put the Spanish F100 warship ahead on price by more than $500 million, according to government and industry sources.

The Government has committed $450 million to the project's start-up, with the cabinet due to take the final decision on the winning design in July.

In August 2005, the Government announced that the Gibbs and Cox "evolved design" would compete with an "Australianised" version of the F100 for the right to be chosen as the navy's new frontline warship.

The new ships will be equipped with the US-made Aegis combat system, giving them the ability to track hostile aircraft and missiles at ranges beyond 150km.

Adelaide-based shipbuilder ASC has already been chosen to construct the vessels, while Raytheon will be the systems integrator, as part of a novel alliance with partners ASC and the Defence Materiel Organisation.

Spain's belated recognition that its F100 could be selected has resulted in a last-minute lobbying push by the Spanish Government.

The Spanish F100 air warfare destroyer Alvaro de Bazan arrives in Perth today at the start of a three-week visit designed to highlights the ship's advanced capabilities. Spain is also sending its naval chief and senior government officials to Australia this month in an effort to clinch the AWD contract.

The design offered by Gibbs and Cox is a more powerful warship than the Spanish F100 air warfare destroyer, and remains the navy's preferred choice.

Gibbs and Cox believes the heavily modified Arleigh Burke offers better all-round combat capability and better growth options for future technology upgrades than the F100.

But with four F100s already in service with the Spanish navy, Navantia argues that its destroyer offers a low-risk and highly capable solution for the Royal Australian Navy.

The first of the navy's new frontline destroyers is scheduled to be delivered in 2013, but the US design is not likely to be in service before 2015.
 

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 02,00.html (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21304930-2702,00.html)
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Enviado por: old em Março 06, 2007, 12:31:23 pm
Las F100 no tienen muchas posibilidades de hacerse con el contrato. Esta visita es un ultimo intento aprovechando la vuelta al mundo de una de ellas.

La Marina de Australia prefiere los Burke.
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Enviado por: Rui Elias em Março 06, 2007, 03:40:33 pm
Old:

Muito sinceramente eu também acho que a escolha irá recair sobre as AB, mas talvez até por uma questão política, já que a Austrália está muito próxima dos EUA.

Mas numa relação custo-benefício, e tendo em conta o lugar geo-estratégico em que se encontra a Austrália, acho que ficariam bem servidos com umas derivadas das F-100, e sairia muito mais barato.

Só se eles estão assustados com a qualidade das tintas  :mrgreen:

Pode ser que em compensação escolham o LHD da NAVANTIA.
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Enviado por: MAC em Março 06, 2007, 07:03:12 pm
Citação de: "Rui Elias"
Pode ser que em compensação escolham o LHD da NAVANTIA.


No creo que si eligen el BPE sea por compensación,sera por que lo consideraran mejor buque que el BPC francés,estamos hablando de mucho dinero y un buque que tiene que servir 25 años por lo menos,demasiado como para elegirlo a la ligera.

De todas formas,creo que BPE ganará.
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Enviado por: garrulo em Março 06, 2007, 07:16:40 pm
La oferta que estos dias esta haciendo Navantia en australia ,tiene como base la F105 con una capacidad de combustible incrementada en 100 Toneladas para cumplir con los requerimientos de la Armada Australiana.
Por el precio de tres buques , pueden tener cuatro y parece que lo estan pensando.
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Enviado por: ferrol em Março 09, 2007, 09:39:57 am
Citação de: "garrulo"
Por el precio de tres buques , pueden tener cuatro y parece que lo estan pensando.
¿Por el precio de 3 buques o de 3 Burkes? :?:

Tampoco creo que sea muy determinante el precio. Quiero decir, que al fin y al cabo si están los dos modelos como finalistas, es porque se pueden pagar los 2. Es como cuando compras un coche. Tienes tu presupuesto y compras el mejor que llegue a ese presupuesto. Así que más que mirar el precio, una vez ya sabes los modelos que puedes pagar (Burke o F-100), ya te fijas en otras cosas...

¿No?
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Enviado por: garrulo em Março 09, 2007, 09:48:08 am
Creo que no, amigo Ferrol.Por una pérdida relativa de capacidades, pueden tener una unidad mas operando. y ellos tienen un mar inmenso que controlar.
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Enviado por: ferrol em Abril 26, 2007, 01:10:05 pm
http://theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21617193-31477,00.html?from=public_rss
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Defence backs Spanish warship for $7bn deal
Patrick Walters, National security editor
April 25, 2007

SPAIN'S F100 air warfare destroyer will become Australia's new front-line warship if the Howard Government accepts the Defence Department's firm recommendation on the $7billion contract.
In backing the Spanish warship, Defence chiefs have rejected the navy's bid for a larger alternative based on the US Arleigh Burke class destroyer.
The Defence Capability and Investment Committee - the Defence Department's top policy advisory committee - met last week and endorsed the F100 design offered by Spanish government shipbuilder Navantia.

The design contest has seen the F100 finish more than $1billion cheaper than the US option and more than two years ahead on the delivery schedule for three warships.

Cabinet's National Security Committee will also consider retaining an option to buy a fourth F100 destroyer when it makes a final decision on a go-ahead for the project in June.

The decision to go for the smaller Spanish destroyer over an evolved design offered by Gibbs and Cox is a defeat for the navy chief, Vice-Admiral Russ Shalders, who made no secret of his preference for the larger US warship.

Admiral Shalders said last month that although the F100 was a good ship, hewas after "capability, capability andcapability".

The 8000-tonne Gibbs and Cox design offered the navy decisive combat advantages, including 64, rather than 48, vertical launch cells, longer range and the ability to take two helicopters.

Admiral Shalders failed to convince his colleagues in the DCIC in a debate one senior defence source described as a "complete whitewash".

Defence sources said the tender evaluation of the two bids submitted by Navantia and Gibbs and Cox had found conclusively in favour of the Spanish on all the key criteria.

Navantia has come from behind six months ago to win the backing of Defence chiefs.

It had long been regarded as simply a stalking horse for Gibbs and Cox, which the Government selected in 2005 as its preferred designer.

Defence sources said a key handicap for Gibbs and Cox was that its proposed warship existed only in its preliminary design phase, increasing the technical risk for a local builder.

The air warfare destroyers are due to enter service from 2013, and will be the biggest and most advanced warships in the RAN.

The $7billion program will be Australia's second-biggest defence project in the coming decade, after the $14billion joint strike fighter for the air force.

Un paso máis, xa estamos máis preto...os militares prefiren o proxecto español para o séu AWD, e co aforro pensan que aínda poden facer unha cuarta F-100 .¿que escolla farán agora os políticos?
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Enviado por: Cabeça de Martelo em Abril 26, 2007, 02:12:03 pm
Isso seria um encaixe financeiro bestial para os estaleiros Espanhóis. Matavam dois coelhos com uma cajadada, ou seja, garantiam um contracto muito lucrativo e ganhavam ainda mais destaque e visibilidade no mercado internacional.
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Enviado por: old em Abril 26, 2007, 04:17:39 pm
Citação de: "Cabeça de Martelo"
Isso seria um encaixe financeiro bestial para os estaleiros Espanhóis. Matavam dois coelhos com uma cajadada, ou seja, garantiam um contracto muito lucrativo e ganhavam ainda mais destaque e visibilidade no mercado internacional.


Eso no va a suceder.

USA no va a vender su Aegis a España para que esta luego le fabrique los barcos a Australia, de ningun modo.

El caso de Noruega fue diferente porque no entraba Gibbs and Cox compitiendo con Navantia.

En este caso ganaran los politicos, aunque a los almirantes no les guste. :wink:
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Enviado por: P44 em Abril 27, 2007, 01:46:28 pm
Australia Closer to Picking F-100 for AWD
 
 
(Source: Forecast International; issued April 26, 2007)

 
   
 
 (https://www.forumdefesa.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.defense-aerospace.com%2Fbase%2Futil%2F81723_1.jpg&hash=32af6658101e04ff0cb815ad54305ecc)
The Spanish Navy’s F101 Alvaro de Bazan air-defense frigate, seen here during a visit to Australia, is favored to win the RAN’s competition for three air-defense ships. (Navantia photo)

CANBERRA --- As long predicted by Forecast International, the Spanish F100 air warfare destroyer will be selected as the winning design for Australia's AUD7 billion Air Warfare Destroyer. The Defence Capability and Investment Committee - the Defence Department's top policy advisory committee - met last week and endorsed the F100 design offered by Spanish government shipbuilder Navantia. In doing so they emphatically rejected the case for a larger alternative based on the U.S. Arleigh Burke class destroyer.  
 
The key considerations behind the decision were that the F100 build was more than AUD1billion less expensive than the U.S. option and more than two years ahead on the delivery schedule for three warships. The tender evaluation of the two bids submitted by Navantia and Gibbs and Cox had found conclusively in favor of the Spanish on all the key criteria.  
 
Although supporters of the Gibbs and Cox-designed DDG-51 derivative promoted the greater weapons carrying capacity of their design, including 64 rather than 48 vertical launch tubes and two rather than one helicopters, the advantages of the F100 were so strong that a debate between supporters of the two designs was a complete wipeout according to one senior Australian defense source.  
 
The financial benefits resulting from the selection of the F100 are so great that they will go a long way towards funding (some estimates are that they will almost completely accommodate) a fourth Air Warfare Destroyer. The Australian Cabinet's National Security Committee will consider an option to buy a fourth F100 destroyer when it makes a final decision on a go-ahead for the project in June.  
 
Common wisdom has often suggested that the Navantia bid was simply a stalking horse for Gibbs and Cox, which the Government selected in 2005 as its preferred designer. According to this interpretation, Navantia has come from behind six months ago to win the backing of Defence chiefs. Forecast International has never agreed with this perception since the information we were receiving from Australia from the start of the project was consistently that the F100 was the preferred candidate and that the Gibbs and Cox design was a back-up in case the F100 class hit serious problems on its trials. This did not happen, the Alvaro de Bazan proved to be a great success and this eliminated the DDG-51 derivatives last hope of winning this contract.  
 
It may well be that the appointment of Gibbs and Cox as preferred designer in 2005 was not a sign of preference for their design but the group's last chance to make its case.  
 
A key handicap for Gibbs and Cox was that its proposed warship existed only in its preliminary design phase, increasing the technical risk for a local builder. Australia's experiences with new and untried designs has been disappointing with the Collins Class submarines a stark example of everything that can go wrong. The F100 is not the final winner in this competition yet, but the chances of the National Security Committee's decision being overturned are not high.  
 
The air warfare destroyers are due to enter service from 2013, and will be the biggest and most advanced warships in the RAN.  
 
The AUD7 billion program will be Australia's second-biggest defense project in the coming decade, after the AUD14billion joint strike fighter for the air force.  
 
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source (http://http)
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Enviado por: old em Abril 27, 2007, 06:07:44 pm
Es lo mas logico. Un barco de 8.000 Tn es muy muy potente, si. Pero solo tienen dinero para fabricar 3 y eso quiere decir que permanentemente tendran como mucho 2 disponibles todo el tiempo y solo 1 en caso de algun imprevisto y eso con las aguas que tiene Australia es muy poco.

Un barco de 6.250 Tn (algo mas la version Australiana) no es tan potente pero a cambio pueden permitirse 4 y disponer siempre de 3 o 2 permanentemente y es mucha diferencia.

Este informe no es vinculante asi que probablemente gane la version de Gibb& Cox por presiones politicas
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Enviado por: SSK em Maio 24, 2007, 06:37:23 pm
não somos só nós :?  
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Australian submarine force ‘is in crisis’
Australia’s submarine force is reported to be in crisis through a lack of trained
submariners.
It is claimed that the number of submariners is only 60 per cent of the 270 establishment for
the sixboat force which has forced the Royal Australian Navy to cut the days at sea. An
improved pay and conditions package is being offered in an attempt to boost numbers
especially among electronic and sonar specialists, mechanical and electrical technicians.
Australian press reports suggest there is also a problem with the boats’ periscopes. It is
claimed they require more maintenance than originally envisaged.
However, it is hoped a new type of seawater hose will overcome a problem encountered
four years ago. A failed hose almost sank the submerged HMAS Dechaineux in 2003 and
led to diving depth restrictions which may be eased if the new hose proves successful.
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Enviado por: papatango em Junho 20, 2007, 10:22:52 am
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Fragatas F-100 e Navios logísticos para a Austrália
Solução «espanhola» para o maior contrato na história da marinha australia
19.06.2007

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O Primeiro Ministro australiano John Howard, anunciou nesta Quarta Feira a aquisição por parte da Austrália de três fragatas do tipo F-100, projecto da empresa espanhola Navantia juntamente com dois navios logísticos anfíbios por cerca de 6.800 milhões de Euros.

Juntamente com a já esperada decisão de aquisição das três fragatas F-100 [1], fortemente baseadas na tecnologia de empresas americanas, o governo da Austrália anunciou ainda que a marinha daquele país, vai também adquirir à empresa espanhola dois navios de apoio logístico do tipo «BPE» com um deslocamento de 27.000 toneladas cada um.

O governo australiano, optou pelas fragatas F-100 por terem não só um preço inferior ao do projecto concorrente da americana Gibbs & Cox, como por se tratar de navios que já existem, ao contrário do projecto americano que é apenas um projecto de «papel» que embora de dimensões e características superiores ao navio espanhol, não conseguiu convencer a marinha australiana.

A opção pelas fragatas F-100 acabou por servir de argumento para que a marinha australiana optasse também por adquirir os navios de apoio logístico baseados no projecto «BPE», presentemente em construção para a marinha da Espanha.

Os navios do tipo F-100 serão todos construídos em estaleiros australianos e 55% dos custos com a construção dos navios[2] serão gastos no próprio país, sendo o restante gasto essencialmente com a importação dos sistemas electrónicos, canhões, mísseis[3], radares e outro tipo de sensores que serão de origem norte-americana.

Os navios de apoio logístico, serão construídos pela empresa TENIX, a mesma empresa que construiu as fragatas Anzac e serão os maiores navios armados operados pela marinha da Austrália, sendo mesmo maiores em termos de deslocamento que os porta-aviões britânicos adquiridos por empréstimo pela marinha daquele país nos anos 50 e 60.
Além de terem capacidade para transportar aeronaves, do tipo F-35B (de descolagem vertical) eles têm uma doca que permite operações anfíbias e o desembarque directo de veículos blindados de infantaria e mesmo carros de combate pesados.

[1] Pelas suas dimensões estes navios são na prática contratorpedeiros
[2] O custo total do projecto deverá rondar os 6.800 milhões de Euros (R$ 17.5 bilhões)
[3] As fragatas australianas utilizarão mísseis SM3.
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Enviado por: old em Junho 20, 2007, 11:49:47 am
Citação de: "old"
Citação de: "Cabeça de Martelo"
Isso seria um encaixe financeiro bestial para os estaleiros Espanhóis. Matavam dois coelhos com uma cajadada, ou seja, garantiam um contracto muito lucrativo e ganhavam ainda mais destaque e visibilidade no mercado internacional.

Eso no va a suceder.

USA no va a vender su Aegis a España para que esta luego le fabrique los barcos a Australia, de ningun modo.

El caso de Noruega fue diferente porque no entraba Gibbs and Cox compitiendo con Navantia.

En este caso ganaran los politicos, aunque a los almirantes no les guste. :wink:
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Enviado por: papatango em Junho 20, 2007, 08:47:46 pm
A marinha da Austália prepara-se...

Afinal, quando um país se vê como potência dominante numa região do mundo, normalmente tem que colocar as suas armas, onde coloca as palavras.

São especialmente importantes as capacidades anfibias dos australianos, embora retirem de serviço os actuais três navios que têm no activo.

A possibilidade de operarem F-35 a bordo dos futoros LHD também não deixa de ser extremamente importante para a região, especialmente para quem quer servir como policia da região e tem que garantir superioridade aérea.

Parece-me no entanto que se trata de navios muito caros. E isto acontece com o dolar relativamente baixo. Caso contrário...  :shock:
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Enviado por: Lancero em Janeiro 02, 2008, 02:13:17 pm
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Labor 'inherited Navy nightmare': Fitzgibbon

Not up to the job: Adelaide Class frigate HMAS Sydney (Department of Defence)

Defence Minister Joel Fitzgibbon says the previous federal government is to blame for serious problems with the Royal Australian Navy's frontline fighting ships.


It has been revealed the 1970s-built Adelaide Class guided missile frigates still cannot be sent into battle zones, despite a $1.5 billion upgrade.
A whistleblower has told News Limited newspapers the situation is so bad, sailors are quitting the Navy.


Mr Fitzgibbon says he is working to rectify the failings of the Howard Government.


"Trying to make a 21st Century warship out of such an old vessel always carried very significant risks," he said.


"The important thing is that we're determined to get value for taxpayers' money and we're determined to deliver the Navy and other services the capability they need.


"These are significant nightmares we've inherited, but we're determined to set them right."

Fonte (http://http)


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Sailors quit as dud frigates unfit for battle


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By Ian McPhedran, Defence Writer
January 02, 2008 12:00am



AUSTRALIA'S naval defence is in tatters with claims that despite a $1.4 billion "upgrade", frontline fighting ships are unable to be sent into battle.
For the first time a navy insider close to the 4000-tonne Adelaide class guided missile frigates upgrade project has provided details of one of the biggest defence scandals in the nation's history. The whistleblower told The Daily Telegraph that the situation is so dire that sailors are quitting the navy because their ships can not be deployed to the Middle East or other conflict zones.
And senior officials now admit that the 1997 frigate upgrade project was a "debacle" created by the Howard government's decision to maximise the sale price of the Sydney-based contractor Australian Defence Industries when it was sold to French firm Thales.
The project is four years late, includes four ships - not the original six as commissioned - and they just don't work.
Late last year Chief of Navy Vice-Admiral Russ Shalders refused to accept HMAS Sydney, the first ship in the program, for "operational release" because its war fighting systems did not function properly.
The whistleblower said the ships' anti-missile and anti-torpedo systems could not be integrated and their electronic support measures - the ship's eyes and ears for detecting incoming airborne threats - were a joke.
"That means they would be going into a war zone virtually blind," the informant said.
In addition the ships are unable to link their helicopters to war fighting data or use long-range chaff which confuses enemy missiles and takes them away from the ship.
The ships are also unable to integrate towed and on-board sonars to detect enemy torpedoes.
Defence Minister Joel Fitzgibbon said the FFG upgrade was "another nightmare" that Labor had inherited and would have to manage as best as it could.
According to government auditors up to 98 per cent of the money has already been paid to Thales despite the fact the project is four years late and not one ship is operational.
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Enviado por: AMRAAM em Maio 13, 2008, 01:08:38 pm
Buenas ,por fin vuelvo a postear en este foro,tras tirarme una semanilla sin internet por tener problemas "tecnicos" :evil: .Pues nada,aqui os dejo una informacion que he encontrado divagando un poquillo por la red.Por lo visto,ha aparecido la primera maqueta ya de como van a ser finalmente estos 3 destructores.De esta noticia se hacia eco un periodico asutraliano.Ahi va el link :wink: :
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23689440-5006301,00.html
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Enviado por: JMM em Maio 13, 2008, 11:34:40 pm
Boas! Várias notas relativas a este assunto:

a) Segundo sei, o objectivo oficial último da Marinha Australiana não é ter F-35 a bordo dos BPE, porque a estrutura logística não está preparada para isso. A Austrália está a preparar-se para adquirir F-35A (CTOL) e não F-35B (STOVL) ou F-35C (STOBAR) e o custo de suportar logísticamente um esquadrão de F-35B (não esquecer que o sistema propulsor é completamente diferente) era muito elevado. No entanto, e como dizia o cego, "a ver vamos"  :lol:  pode ser só uma cortina de fumo e após o primeiro lote pode ser que a Marinha Australiana tenha essa "fisgada"... se eu fosse um Almirante australiano pelo menos atirva o barro à parede a ver se pegava...

b) Relativamente aos AWD e BPE, existia um acordo com o governo conservador (que não sei se se mantém válido com o novo governo trabalhista) de que, se o total ficar abaixo do contratado (daí a opção pelo projecto Navantia para os LHD), pode ser que o Pai Natal traga um 4º AWD, o que deixaria a Marinha Australiana com uma frota fantástica, a saber, 2 BPE, 4 AWD, 8 ANZAC modernizadas com ênfase ASW e excelente capacidade de defesa AAW graças aos Evolved Seasparrow e radar ESA e 6 submarinos da classe Collins, cujo sucessor já está a ser desenhado. Nada mau, não acham? Faz pensar...

Um abraço
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Enviado por: P44 em Maio 14, 2008, 08:23:28 am
há uns tempos falou-se da possibilidade de um TERCEIRO BPE que teria mais funções de porta-aviões

http://eltiradorsolitario.blogspot.com/ ... ta-de.html (http://eltiradorsolitario.blogspot.com/2008/03/la-armada-de-australia-y-su-lista-de.html)

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jueves 27 de marzo de 2008
LA ARMADA DE AUSTRALIA Y SU "LISTA DE DESEOS"

La Armada de Australia ha escrito una especie de "lista de deseos" por valor de 4000 millones de dólares.
Principalmente, la Armada desea un tercer buque anfibio y un cuarto destructor antiaéreo como los que fabricará Navantia.
Además de los buques, la Armada quiere misiles Tomahawk para submarinos.
Estos requerimientos se entienden como una manera de presionar al Gobierno para que incluya estos medios en la edición del Libro Blanco de Defensa con los medios a adquirir para los próximos diez años. El Gobierno australiano ha decidido revisar los costes de Defensa para los próximos años, con la intención de recortar 1000 millones de dólares anuales del presupuesto.

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Aircraft carrier on navy's secret $4bn wish list

By Ian McPhedran

March 25, 2008 01:08am
Article from: The Daily Telegraph



THE Royal Australian Navy has produced a secret $4 billion "wish list" that includes an aircraft carrier, an extra air warfare destroyer and long-range Tomahawk cruise missiles for its submarine fleet.


The RAN wants a third 26,000 tonne amphibious ship equipped with vertical take-off jet fighters, a fourth $2 billion air warfare destroyer and cruise missiles that could strike targets thousands of kilometres away.

The list comes at a time when the RAN can barely find enough sailors to crew its existing fleet.


It also coincides with a Federal Government push to save $1 billion a year in defence costs as well as a government-ordered White Paper which will set the spending priorities for the next two decades.

According to insiders, the Government was unimpressed by the RAN's push for more firepower at a time when the Government is aiming to slash spending.

"The navy is out of control," one defence source said.

It is understood that the wish list was the final straw in the tense relationship between the Government and Chief of Navy Vice-Admiral Russ Shalders - who will be replaced in July by Rear Admiral Russell Crane.

Admiral Shalders last year also pushed hard for an expensive US-designed destroyer, but lost out to the cheaper, Spanish option.

Taxpayers will spend more than $11 billion to provide the RAN with the two 26,000-tonne amphibious ships and three air-warfare destroyers equipped with 48 vertical launch missiles.

The two big ships, known as Landing Helicopter Docks, are designed for amphibious assaults and will be fitted with helicopters and be capable of carrying more than 1000 troops and heavy vehicles such as tanks and trucks.

The RAN wants a third ship to carry vertical take-off fighter jets.

Its last aircraft carrier, HMAS Melbourne, was decommissioned in 1982 before being sold for scrap.

The latest ships are 10m longer and 8m wider than the Melbourne and will be built in Spain and fitted out at the Tenix shipyard in Melbourne.

The Spanish navy will carry 30 Harrier jump jets aboard its similar ships.

They will each cost more than $1.7 billion. The fighters would cost about $100 million each. The destroyers will cost about $2 billion each, taking the total cost to more than $4 billion.

Tomahawk cruise missiles cost about $1 million each and can carry a 450kg conventional or 200 kiloton nuclear warhead more than 2500km.

In the past Australia has stayed away from long-range strike missiles for fear of triggering a regional arms race.

The wish list is what the RAN would like to see make up part of the White Paper process which will later this year provide a strategic blueprint for the defence of the nation for the next 20 years.

That process will direct new spending worth more than $50 billion over the next 10 years.


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Enviado por: old em Maio 14, 2008, 09:46:18 am
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há uns tempos falou-se da possibilidade de um TERCEIRO BPE que teria mais funções de porta-aviões




Claro, 3 BPEs y 4 F100s, por pedir que no quede :roll:

Por cierto, tambien estan interesados en los Submarinos S80. Al final se llevaran media Armada Española  para las antipodas!

http://www.nuestromar.org/noticias/indu ... _india_con (http://www.nuestromar.org/noticias/industria_naval_04_2008_navantia_conquista_el_interes_de_australia_y_la_india_con)

De momento solo hay firmados (y me parece que ya es bastante) 02 Bpe y 03 F100s  . Creo que tambien 12 lanchas de desembarco para los Abrams M1

Lo que si es muy interesante es que utilizen uno de sus BPE como Portaaviones y compren  15 o 20  F35 en version VStol. Pasarian a tener una TF bastante poderosa.

A ver que hace la Royal Australian Navy al final
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24 July 2008
Australian submarine first to fire new heavyweight torpedo

The Minister for Defence, the Hon. Joel Fitzgibbon MP, today congratulated the crew of the Australian submarine, HMAS Waller, for being the first submarine to successfully fire a new heavyweight torpedo that has been jointly developed by Australia and the United States (US).
The firing occurred during the Rim of the Pacific 2008 (RIMPAC 08) exercise, involving multiple navies off the coast of Hawaii between June and July. This controlled exercise resulted in the planned sinking of a retired US warship.

“This represents the first new heavyweight torpedo warshot to be fired by either Navy. Just as significant is the fact that the warshot torpedo was assembled in Australia,” Mr Fitzgibbon said.

The MK 48 Mod 7 Common Broadband Advanced Sonar System (CBASS) torpedo is the latest enhancement for the MK 48.

Considered the world’s premier submarine-launched torpedo, the MK 48 Mod 7 represents a superior capability against both surface ships and submarines with sonar enhancements that make the torpedo an effective weapon in shallow water and in a countermeasure environment.

The development of the CBASS torpedo has been achieved under an Armaments Cooperative Program between the United States Navy (USN) and the Royal Australian Navy (RAN). This partnership has established common requirements, interfaces, configurations and maintenance standards enabling any Australian or US submarine to load torpedoes prepared by any Australian or US torpedo maintenance facility.

This submarine partnership has also led to co-development of a new replacement combat system, which is being progressively integrated into USN nuclear submarines and RAN diesel-electric submarines.

This successful live fire exercise underscores the maturity of the joint torpedo and submarine combat system programs for the RAN and USN.
“For Australia in particular, this exercise has been a successful demonstration of the ongoing capability of the Collins Class submarine,” Mr Fitzgibbon said.
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Enviado por: SSK em Julho 24, 2008, 06:18:04 pm
Tudo muito bonito! É pena é eles só terem 3 guarnições para 6 submarinos :?

Depois veremos se este Mk48 Mod 7 é assim tão bom face aos DM2A4 e aos Black Shark.
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Enviado por: P44 em Fevereiro 21, 2011, 11:44:16 am
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Navantia has launched the first of two new amphibious ships for the RAN; its superstructure will be added in Australia and it will be delivered in 2014. (Aus DoD photo)

   LHD Launch Paves the Way for Amphibious Transformation
   
   
(Source: Australian Department of Defence; issued Feb. 18, 2011)

The hull of the first of the Royal Australian Navy’s two new amphibious ships has been launched in Spain, heralding a new era for Australia’s amphibious capability.

Chief of Navy Vice Admiral Russ Crane led the launch and said the event was enormously significant.

“These ships are officially known as Landing Helicopter Docks or LHDs and are the largest the Australian Navy has ever owned,” Vice Admiral Crane said.

LHD01's hull launch was held at the Navantia dockyards at Ferrol in northern Spain with the event having a distinctly Australian feel, as children of Australian diplomats in Spain joined the official delegation, waving Australian flags. A Canberra regional sparkling wine was broken over the Canberra Class ship’s hull. Vicki Coates, wife of the late Rear Admiral Nigel Coates, who commanded the previous HMAS Canberra, was the ‘launch lady’.

Vice Admiral Crane said that with a new generation in technology would come a new way of thinking in terms of how Navy would operate and crew this new capability.

“We are well progressed in our planning for the LHD arrival. I am confident we will have the people and the knowhow by the time the first LHD comes on line. Most importantly for now, this project is on time and on budget.”

Both ships will be based at Garden Island in Sydney. Crewed by all three services, the LHD will mark a significant strengthening of the ADF’s amphibious capability and tri-service culture.

First of class, HMAS Canberra (LHD01) will arrive in Victoria next year where it will be fitted out before being accepted into service in 2014 with sister ship HMAS Adelaide (LHD02) to follow the year after. (ends)
   
   
   Launch of the First LHD Ship for Australia
   
   
(Source: Navantia; issued Feb. 17, 2011)
 
   
   (Issued in Spanish; unofficial translation by defense-aerospace.com)
 
 
   
   The “Canberra” received its first seawater christening in Ferrol, in the presence of the chief of the Royal Australian Navy, Vice Adm. Russell Crane.

Today at 15:46 hours, at its facility in Ferrol, Navantia launched the first of two amphibious ships for the Royal Australian Navy. Attending were Mrs. Vickie Coates, the ship’s godmother, the commander of the Royal Australian Navy, Vice Adm. Russell Crane, and representatives of the Commonwealth of Australia, BAE Systems and Navantia, including its new managing director, Luis Cacho Quesada.

Construction of this ship, which was launched two months earlier than scheduled, began with the first metal cut on Sept. 23, 2008, followed by laying of its keel 12 months later, on Sept. 23, 2009. This early launch will provide additional time for its fitting out and its sea trials, in the summer of 2012, after which the hull will be transported to Australia for completion and handover by BAE Systems Australia in Williamstown.

The contract for these two amphibious ships was awarded on Nov. 23, 2007 in Melbourne; they will be handed over to the customer in 2014 and 2015.

The design of the Australian LHDs is derived from that of the “Juan Carlos I,” delivered by Navantia to the Spanish navy last year. (ends)

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... pain.html# (http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/122675/first-australian-lhd-ship-launched-in-spain.html#)
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Enviado por: chaimites em Fevereiro 23, 2011, 12:41:10 am
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Enviado por: P44 em Junho 10, 2011, 01:49:17 pm
Not a single submarine seaworthy

    * EXCLUSIVE Cameron Stewart
    * From: The Australian
    * June 10, 2011 12:00AM

FOR the first time in a generation, Australia does not have a single submarine available to defend the nation today.

The Australian understands the entire fleet of six Collins-class submarines cannot be put to sea despite the navy's claim that two of them remain officially "operational".

The situation is so dire the navy is believed to have deferred major scheduled maintenance work on its most seaworthy submarine, HMAS Waller, in the hope that at least one submarine will be available in the coming weeks.

Not having a single task-ready submarine is an embarrassment for the navy, whose attempts to improve the performance of the $10 billion fleet have been stymied by breakdowns, accidents and the growing unreliability of the ageing vessels.

The navy claims two of its submarines, HMAS Waller and HMAS Dechaineux, are available, but insiders say the reality is that neither vessel could be put to sea today if required because each is undergoing detailed inspections for mechanical problems.

HMAS Dechaineux is in dock at HMAS Stirling in Perth for an intrusive inspection of its main motor after limping home from Singapore, where defects were found in its propulsion system.

It is understood Dechaineux will be unable to sail for at least several weeks.

HMAS Waller is also in dock at HMAS Stirling after engineers found signs of the same propulsion system problems that last month forced Dechaineux to withdraw from a five-nation defence exercise in the South China Sea.

It is understood that HMAS Waller will be unable to leave port until next week.

The other four subs are unavailable. HMAS Farncomb is out of the water at the submarine repair facility at Henderson near Perth as workers seek to replace a broken emergency propulsion unit.

HMAS Collins is undergoing scheduled maintenance at Henderson and is due out later this month, while HMAS Sheean and HMAS Rankin are both in long-term maintenance at the Australian Submarine Corporation in Adelaide.

The navy's plans to improve the reliability of the fleet are being undermined by the discovery of unexpected defects, especially with the propulsion system, as the submarines begin to age.

There is also a shortage of spare parts.

The navy has become increasingly evasive about the state of its submarine fleet and is restricting its public comments on the issue, citing national security.

However, critics say the navy has in the past been open about the availability of its submarines and that it is hiding behind claims of national security to avoid public scrutiny.

Defence declined to answer detailed questions from The Australian about submarine availability, saying only that two boats were in deep maintenance, two were in mid-level maintenance and two "are in the water in Western Australia".

The Australian understands HMAS Waller was originally scheduled to begin a mid-cycle docking maintenance for 12 months today, but that the navy has now deferred this plan for several months because so many other boats are out of action.

Opposition defence spokesman David Johnston criticised navy chiefs for being evasive about submarine availability during Senate estimates hearings in Canberra last week.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 6072631716 (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/not-a-single-submarine-seaworthy/story-fn59niix-1226072631716)
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Enviado por: PCartCast em Junho 10, 2011, 02:51:54 pm
Mas as F-100 que vão para a Austrália são para substituir as Meko-200 que eles operam??
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Enviado por: PereiraMarques em Junho 10, 2011, 04:09:11 pm
Não, é para substituir a classe Adelaide (tipo Oliver Hazard Perry).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide_class_frigate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide_class_frigate)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobart_class_destroyer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobart_class_destroyer)
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Enviado por: P44 em Junho 04, 2012, 06:17:18 pm
opção interessante tomada pela Austrália

Ocean Shield the Navy’s Newest Humanitarian and Disaster Relief Vessel
   
   
(Source: Australian Department of Defence; issued June 3, 2012)
 
 
   
   Minister for Defence Stephen Smith and Minister for Defence Materiel Jason Clare announced that the Australian Defence Force has now officially taken ownership of its new humanitarian and disaster relief vessel, the Skandi Bergen, which will be re-named Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield (ADV Ocean Shield).

The ship will now make its way from Norway and is expected to arrive in Australia in July. It will be available to the Royal Australian Navy for tasking upon its arrival.

On 19 March the Government announced it had purchased the Offshore Support Vessel to add to the Royal Australian Navy’s current amphibious ships, HMAS Choules and HMAS Tobruk.

The 6,500 tonne ship is 105 metres long and 21 metres wide. It has accommodation for up to 100 people, more than 1000 metres of deck area, and a helipad.

Defence has taken ownership of the vessel after extensive sea trials oversighted by international shipping firm Teekay Shipping.

The purchase of this vessel will ensure that Defence has the humanitarian and disaster relief capability required between now and the arrival of the two new Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) ships in the middle of the decade.

It will primarily be used to transport troops and supplies in support of humanitarian and disaster relief operations domestically and in the region.

After Defence introduces the first LHD into service, the vessel will be transferred to Customs and Border Protection to provide a long term capability for Customs and Border Protection.

It will be able to undertake patrols in the Southern Ocean providing surveillance, detection and apprehension of any vessels operating illegally. The vessel is able to operate in sub-Antarctic weather conditions.

The vessel is the sister ship of the Ocean Protector which is currently operated by Customs and Border Protection and undertakes these patrols.

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Spain’s Navantia shipyards have launched the Royal Australian Navy’s second amphibious ship, the future HMAS Adelaide, four and a half months earlier than planned. (Navantia photo)

Launch of the Second Amphibious Ship Landing Helicopter Dock
   
   
(Source: Australian Department of Defence; issued July 5, 2012)

Minister for Defence Stephen Smith and Minister for Defence Materiel Jason Clare today announced the launch of the second Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) at the Navantia shipyard in Spain.

The launch represented a major milestone in the shipbuilding process and was attended by the Chief of Navy, Vice Admiral Ray Griggs.

Australia is acquiring two amphibious ships for the Australian Defence Force (ADF).

The LHDs are the largest ships ever built for the Royal Australian Navy and will provide the ADF with one of the most capable and sophisticated amphibious deployment systems in the world.

The Canberra Class LHDs are bigger than Australia’s last aircraft carrier HMAS Melbourne. When completed they will be more than 230 metres long, 27.5 metres high and weigh around 27,500 tonnes.

Each ship can carry a combined armed battlegroup of more than 1100 personnel, 100 armoured vehicles and 12 helicopters and features a 40-bed hospital.

Spanish shipbuilder Navantia, as a subcontractor to BAE Systems Australia, has constructed and is fitting out the hulls of both amphibious ships.

The superstructure, combat and communications systems will be consolidated with the hulls in Australia at the BAE Systems shipyard in Williamstown, Victoria.

The arrival of the first amphibious ship hull at BAE’s Williamstown dockyard is expected later this year.

When the hull arrives in Melbourne the complex task of marrying the superstructure, hull, combat system and communications system can commence, in preparation for delivery of the first ship to the Australian Defence Force in 2014. (ends)
   
   
   Launching of ALHD Adelaide for the Royal Australian Navy
   
   
(Source: Navantia; issued July 4, 2012)
 
 
   
   At 17:43 h. Navantia today is launching at its Ferrol facilities, the second amphibious ship for the Royal Australian Navy. The Ship’s launching lady, Mrs. Maureen Banks, as well as the Chief of the Royal Australian Navy, Vice Admiral Ray Griggs, together with representatives of the Commonwealth of Australia, BAE Systems, SEPI and Navantia have attended the event.

Construction of the “Adelaide” started with the Steel Cutting ceremony on the 2nd of February 2010, followed by the keel laying on the 18th of February 2011.

The launch takes place four and half months earlier than the planned date. This early launch provides additional time, until early 2014, to complete the outfitting and testing of the ship, when the hull will be transported to Australia for completion and delivery by BAE Systems Australia in Williamstown.

The “Adelaide” is the second of the two amphibious ships contracted on the 23rd of November 2007 by the Commonwealth of Australia in Melbourne. The amphibious ships will be delivered by BAE Systems to the Commonwealth of Australia in 2014 and 2015.

The design of the Australian LHDs is based on the “Juan Carlos I”, delivered by Navantia to the Spanish Navy last year.

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Enviado por: chaimites em Outubro 20, 2012, 03:22:55 am
Espetaculo!

embarque do LHD 02 Camberra rumo a Australia a bordo do  HLV BLUE MARLIN

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Enviado por: chaimites em Outubro 20, 2012, 10:30:28 pm
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Enviado por: P44 em Janeiro 16, 2013, 12:48:37 pm
HMAS CANBERRA em aprestamento

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Enviado por: HSMW em Junho 14, 2013, 07:21:36 pm
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A computer-generated animation has been released today which highlights the multi-mission capability of the three naval destroyers being built as part of the Air Warfare Destroyer Project. AWD Alliance CEO Rod Equid said the animation will increase understanding of the exceptional capabilities available in the Hobart Class and provide an insight into how the ships can be used in-service.
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Enviado por: HSMW em Outubro 12, 2013, 02:57:23 pm
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Enviado por: HSMW em Fevereiro 05, 2014, 12:03:05 pm
HMAS Canberra
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Enviado por: HSMW em Março 04, 2014, 04:34:56 pm
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Enviado por: P44 em Julho 06, 2014, 04:57:56 pm
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HMAS Canberra
Ship is seen on approach to Sydney Heads for her first arrival in Sydney.

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Enviado por: HSMW em Setembro 08, 2014, 04:00:16 pm
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Enviado por: Menacho em Setembro 14, 2014, 02:32:42 pm
LCM1E, Made in Spain:

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Enviado por: mafets em Novembro 17, 2014, 10:58:27 am
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HMCS Toronto crew members are being hailed as heroes after rescuing people from a fire while on shore leave in Turkey.

“Six members of the crew provided first response to a fire and assisted in the evacuation of the building, saving lives,” the Department of National Defence said.

It all happened in Antalya, Turkey, on Friday.

The crew were in a restaurant when a fire broke out. Trained in fire fighting and first responding, they went to work.
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Enviado por: Lightning em Dezembro 21, 2014, 12:18:45 pm
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HMCS Toronto crew members are being hailed as heroes after rescuing people from a fire while on shore leave in Turkey.

“Six members of the crew provided first response to a fire and assisted in the evacuation of the building, saving lives,” the Department of National Defence said.

It all happened in Antalya, Turkey, on Friday.

The crew were in a restaurant when a fire broke out. Trained in fire fighting and first responding, they went to work.
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Onde é que estão os Australianos?
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Enviado por: PereiraMarques em Dezembro 21, 2014, 11:00:00 pm
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Citação de: "mafets"
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/11/16/hmcs-toronto-members-fight-fire-while-on-shore-leave-in-turkey

Onde é que estão os Australianos?

LOL! HMCS-Her Majesty's Canadian Ship
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Enviado por: Lightning em Dezembro 22, 2014, 11:20:42 am
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LOL! HMCS-Her Majesty's Canadian Ship

Pois a não ser que andasse algum Australiano para lá misturado, essa noticia não tem nada que estar no tópico da ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
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Enviado por: HSMW em Janeiro 30, 2015, 11:02:24 pm
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Enviado por: P44 em Fevereiro 20, 2015, 06:36:44 pm
Strategic Direction of the Future Submarine Program
(Source: Australian Dept. of Defence; issued Feb 20, 2015)
Today the Government announces the acquisition strategy for the Future Submarine Program. This announcement sets out further details of the competitive evaluation process that will be undertaken by the Department of Defence.

Submarines are an essential component of Australia’s naval capability and the Government will ensure that the future submarine provides the best possible capability and value for money for Australian taxpayers while maximising the involvement of Australian industry.

Submarines are the most complex, sensitive and expensive Defence capability acquisition a Government can make.

Australia’s national security and $1.6 trillion economy depend on secure sea lanes. We need the best possible submarine to protect our trade and support our maritime security.

It must be delivered in time to avoid a capability gap in the mid-2020s when the Collins Class submarine is scheduled to be retired from service. The decisions we make on the Future Submarine Program will determine what kind of capability we have to defend Australia and Australian interests into the 2040s and beyond.

The process outlined by the Government today provides a pathway for Australian industry to maximise its involvement in the program, whilst not compromising capability, cost, program schedule or risk.

The Government expects that significant work will be undertaken in Australia during the build phase of the future submarine including combat system integration, design assurance and land based testing. This will result in the creation at least 500 new high-skill jobs in Australia, the majority of which will be based in South Australia.

The Future Submarine Program is the largest Defence procurement program in Australia’s history and represents an investment in the order of $50 billion in Australia’s security. These costs will be subject to refinement through the competitive evaluation process. A significant proportion of this investment will be spent in Australia during the lifetime of the future submarine.

Successive governments have used various kinds of competitive evaluation processes for major Defence capability procurements.

As part of this competitive evaluation process, the Department of Defence will seek proposals from potential partners for:

a) Pre-concept designs based on meeting Australian capability criteria;

b) Options for design and build overseas, in Australia, and/or a hybrid approach;

c) Rough order of magnitude (ROM) costs and schedule for each option; and

d) Positions on key commercial issues, for example intellectual property rights and the ability to use and disclose technical data.

In addition to this – and on the advice of Defence – the Government has endorsed a set of key strategic requirements for our future submarines:

a) Range and endurance similar to the Collins Class submarine;

b) Sensor performance and stealth characteristics that are superior to the Collins Class submarine; and

c) The combat system and heavyweight torpedo jointly developed between the United States and Australia as the preferred combat system and main armament.

Defence advises that for Australian industry to have the best opportunity to maximise their involvement in the Future Submarine Program, it needs to work with an international partner.

Based on work completed by Defence, France, Germany, and Japan have emerged as potential international partners. All three countries have proven submarine design and build capabilities and are currently producing submarines.

France, Germany and Japan will be invited to participate in this competitive evaluation process (Emphasis added—Ed.) that will assess their ability to partner with Australia to develop a Future Submarine that meets our capability requirements.

The Department of Defence will invite potential international partners to seek opportunities for Australian industry participation in the Future Submarine Program.

The competitive evaluation process will help the Government balance important considerations including capability, cost, schedule, and risk. Interoperability with our alliance partner, the United States, will also be a fundamental consideration.

The competitive evaluation process will take around ten months, after which an international partner will be selected for Australia’s Future Submarine Program. Further details about Australian industry involvement are also expected to be known at that point.

The competitive evaluation process will ensure that capability, cost, schedule, and key strategic considerations, along with Australian industry involvement, are carefully and methodically considered, and avoid unnecessary delays to the Future Submarine Program.

The Department of Defence will soon be holding industry briefings to inform Australian industry about the process and how they can engage with potential international partners.

An expert advisory panel will also be appointed to oversee the competitive evaluation process. Further details about this will be announced once individual appointments are confirmed.

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http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... plans.html (http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/161216/australia-unveils-submarine-acquisition-plans.html)
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Enviado por: P44 em Maio 23, 2015, 06:31:12 pm
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Enviado por: nelson38899 em Maio 23, 2015, 07:07:48 pm
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ficou o navio muito interessante, não percebo porque é que ainda mantêm o radar antigo, no topo da novo equipamento de radar.
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Enviado por: olisipo em Maio 25, 2015, 03:41:50 pm
Australia bota el primero de los destructores diseñados por Navantia

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(defensa.com) Este pasado sábado, 23 de mayo, tuvo lugar en Adelaide el acto de botadura del HMAS Hobart , el primero de los tres destructores del programa AWD (Air Warfare Destroyer) basados en el diseño de las fragatas F-100 que Navantia construyó para la Armada española. La ceremonia contó con la presencia del presidente del astillero español, José Manuel Revuelta. (..)

 El programa de destructores antiaéreos clase Hobart, denominado Sea 4000 , comprende la fabricación en Australia de tres destructores AWD. Navantia forma parte, junto a Raytheon Australia, el Defence Materiel Organisation (DMO), y el astillero australiano ASC de AWD Alliance, el consorcio elegido para la fabricación de los tres destructores. Estos se basan en el diseño de las última de las fragatas F-100, la F-105 "Cristóbal Colón", que introdujo mejoras sobre las cuatro fragatas anteriores. (...)

Con un presupuesto de 8.000 millones de dólares,  se trata del programa de defensa más amplio y complejo de la historia de Australia. Está dotado del sistema Aegis, de la norteamericana Lockheed-Martin, que es capaz de monitorizar hasta 100 objetivos aéreos a distancias de hasta 250 millas. (...)
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Enviado por: P44 em Maio 26, 2015, 07:16:23 pm
Launch of the First Australian Navy Hobart Class Air Warfare Destroyer
 
In an important milestone for the Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD) program, the first of three destroyers, Hobart, was launched alongside the Port River wharf in Adelaide today. This is a key achievement for the program and a big step towards the delivery of three highly capable warships to the Royal Australian Navy. The second destroyer Brisbane — now in an advanced state of fit-out with more than half of the blocks already consolidated on the hardstand.

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The first Australian Navy Hobart Class Air Warfare Destroyer has been launched on May 23 (Picture: Tom Huntley)
          
Once fully operational, the warships will have a combination of great endurance, offensive and defensive weapons, flexibility and versatility. Hobart, Brisbane and Sydney will assume a leading command and control role with the Australian Defence Force and Coalition forces capable of carrying out multi-mission operations.

The Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD) program is one of the largest and most complex Defence projects ever undertaken in Australia and has been instrumental in building a strong shipbuilding capability in Australia.

The Hobart has reached this milestone through Government and industry collaboration involving an Australian workforce of some 3000 people. This includes the AWD Alliance made up of lead shipbuilder ASC, mission systems integrator Raytheon Australia and the Department of Defence, including the Royal Australian Navy.

The program has also been supported the United States Navy, Navantia, Lockheed Martin, Forgacs, BAE Systems and MG Engineering.

As Hobart moves into this next phase, the second and third destroyers, Brisbane and Sydney, will benefit from the AWD Alliance applying lessons learned.

This experience will be drawn on should a continuous build strategy, with a regular pace of delivering new warships, be feasible.

An enterprise-level naval shipbuilding plan would provide for the long-term future of the Australian naval shipbuilding industry and avoid the peaks and troughs we are experiencing – and have experienced in the past.

With Hobart in the water, the second destroyer, Brisbane, can soon take its place on the hardstand to undergo final block consolidation, and the keel for the third destroyer, Sydney, will be laid.

The AWDs are being built for Australia’s specific defence needs and will provide a significant increase in Australia’s defence capabilities. The AWDs will provide greater protection for ADF personnel by providing air defence for accompanying ships as well as land forces and infrastructure on nearby coastal areas. The AWDs will also provide self-protection against attacking missiles and aircraft.

The Aegis Weapon System incorporating the state-of-the-art phased array radar, AN/ SPY 1D(V), in combination with the SM-2 missile, will provide an advanced air defence system capable of engaging enemy aircraft and missiles at ranges in excess of 150 kilometres.

The AWDs will also carry a MH-60R Seahawk ‘Romeo’ naval combat helicopter for surveillance and response to support key warfare areas. The surface warfare function will include long range anti-ship missiles and a naval gun capable of firing extended range munitions in support of land forces. The AWDs will also be able to conduct Undersea Warfare and will be equipped with modern sonar systems, decoys and surface-launched torpedoes.

Coupled with an array of close-in defensive weapons, all of these capabilities ensure the AWDs have the layered defensive and offensive resources required to win the battle against 21st century conventional and asymmetric threats.
The Defence team is led by the AWD Program Office in the Defence Materiel Organisation (DMO), which retains overall responsibility for the project management and delivery of the three Air Warfare Destroyers. The DMO, through the Minister for Defence, is responsible to the people of Australia to ensure that the future AWDs are delivered to the RAN on time, on budget and to the required capability.
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Enviado por: mafets em Junho 15, 2015, 09:59:08 am
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The Royal Australian Navy (RAN) has commissioned its 725 Squadron as a training formation for the service's MH-60R Seahawk 'Romeo' anti-submarine warfare (ASW) helicopters.

The squadron was commissioned by Defence Minister Kevin Andrews on 11 June at Naval Air Station HMAS Albatross in Nowra.

Australia has acquired 24 MH-60Rs under an AUD3.2 billion (USD2.5 billion) project to replace the RAN's 16 S-70B-2 Seahawks in ASW and anti-surface warfare roles. The RAN has so far accepted 11 aircraft into service.

"This is a significant increase in technology and capability for the navy and the helicopters are equipped with a sophisticated sensor suite, torpedoes, and air-to-surface missiles," said Andrews in a speech to mark the squadron's commissioning.

According to IHS Jane's Fighting Ships , the MH-60R has an operational speed of 180 kt and a service ceiling of 10,000 ft. The aircraft can attain a range of 450 n miles.

Operational support for aircraft, which are scheduled to achieve initial operating capability at sea in August, will be provided by 816 Squadron, which currently operates the navy's S-70B-2 helicopters.
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Enviado por: P44 em Junho 21, 2015, 07:18:09 pm
Old meets new, as the RAN LSH HMAS Tobruk sails next to the new LHD, HMAS Canberra, in Sydney Harbour, today.

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Enviado por: NVF em Junho 24, 2015, 02:47:36 am
RAN's second Canberra-class LHD sails for first sea trials

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The Royal Australian Navy's (RAN's) second Canberra-class landing helicopter dock (LHD) vessel, the future HMAS Adelaide , has left BAE Systems' shipyard in Williamstown to begin its first sea trials, a company official told IHS Jane's on 23 June.

The 230 m vessel left on the 17 June and is heading towards Sydney. During the trials process, it will conduct various tasks under a number of different ship configurations and scenarios, including at different water depths. " Adelaide will return to Williamstown in mid-July and conduct a second set of sea trials in August before we prepare it for a handover to the RAN in late 2015," said Kaye Noske, BAE Systems' senior communications manager.

http://www.janes.com/article/52487/ran-s-second-canberra-class-lhd-sails-for-first-sea-trials
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Enviado por: olisipo em Junho 24, 2015, 09:16:45 am
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RAN's second Canberra-class LHD sails for first sea trials

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The Royal Australian Navy's (RAN's) second Canberra-class landing helicopter dock (LHD) vessel, the future HMAS Adelaide , has left BAE Systems' shipyard in Williamstown to begin its first sea trials, a company official told IHS Jane's on 23 June.

The 230 m vessel left on the 17 June and is heading towards Sydney. During the trials process, it will conduct various tasks under a number of different ship configurations and scenarios, including at different water depths. " Adelaide will return to Williamstown in mid-July and conduct a second set of sea trials in August before we prepare it for a handover to the RAN in late 2015," said Kaye Noske, BAE Systems' senior communications manager.

http://www.janes.com/article/52487/ran-s-second-canberra-class-lhd-sails-for-first-sea-trials

Congratulations, Aussies, from Spain, where the Adelaide, like the Canberra,  was built in her first phase, at the El Ferrol Navantia Shipyards.

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Enviado por: Cabeça de Martelo em Junho 24, 2015, 11:15:38 am
Não há dúvida que são uns navios espectaculares.
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Enviado por: Menacho em Junho 30, 2015, 10:14:45 am
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Enviado por: olisipo em Agosto 01, 2015, 07:47:01 pm
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   HMAS Canberra

   ASPI report calls for sea change in Australian approach to amphibious warfare  

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The Australian Defence Force  (ADF) currently lacks the tradition, culture and organisational expertise needed to maintain and employ a world-class amphibious warfare capability, according to a new study by a leading think tank.

  The paper, released by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute  (ASPI) on 29 July, comes just nine months after the commissioning of the 27,800-tonne helicopter landing dock (LHD) HMAS  Canberra, the Royal Australian Navy  (RAN's] largest-ever ship, and a few months before the anticipated commissioning of Canberra's sister ship, HMAS  Adelaide .

 While acknowledging an impressive amount of work over several years by individuals and organisations across the ADF to facilitate institutional change, the Department of Defence (DoD) still faces critical gaps in the planning and personnel needed to fully exploit the ships' potential, the study said.

  "Australia is a maritime country without a maritime  culture, and the AD, in particular the army, doesn't have one either", the study says (....)
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Enviado por: tenente em Outubro 07, 2015, 12:31:27 am
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Australia to Build Entire New Surface Warfare Fleet

Prime Minister Tony Abbott announced major investments in Australia’s shipbuilding industry.

By Franz-Stefan Gady August 05, 2015

Yesterday, the Australian government announced plans to invest more than A$89 billion (US$65 billion) in the country’s naval shipbuilding industry and to bring forward two surface warfare ship programs — the SEA 5000 Future Frigate acquisition project and the SEA 1180 Offshore Patrol Vessel program, AFP reports.

“Previous Australian governments have announced that individual ships or classes of ships will be built here in Australia,” Prime Minister Tony Abbott told local media yesterday. “What we are announcing today is basically a fleet build here in Australia, centered on [South Australia].”

The competitive evaluation program for the Future Frigate program will begin this October, with construction of the first vessel beginning in 2020 — three years earlier than expected.  The Royal Australian Navy (RAN) will begin phasing out its fleet of eight Anzac-class frigates from 2024 onwards. The last Anzac-class vessel was commissioned only 11 years ago, in 2006.

Total program costs for the construction of eight new 7,000-ton multi-purpose frigates for the RAN are estimated to be around A$10-11 billion (roughly $7-8 billion). “Contenders for the program are understood to include the FREMM Frigate and BAE Systems’ Type 26 Global Combat Ship,” IHS Jane’s Defense Weekly states.

The SEA 1180 Offshore Patrol Vessel acquisition project will be brought forward by two years, with construction estimated to begin in 2018 after the conclusion of a competitive evaluation program.  The 20 new 2,000-ton patrol vessels are expected to replace 26 smaller classes of vessels that include the Armidale-class, the Huon-class, the Leeuwin-class and Paluma-class of warships. Like the new frigates, the patrol boats are expected to be multi-purpose warships that will be equipped with a modular mission payload system to accommodate various mission sets. Total program costs are estimated between A$7 and 8 billion ($5.1-5.8 billion).

The new building program will “guarantee around 2,500 Australian shipbuilding jobs for decades,” according to Abbott. He also emphasized that the majority of construction will occur in South Australia*: “[T]he yard for building major surface ships will be here in Adelaide because the infrastructure’s here.”

“The subordinate yard may be in South Australia; it may be somewhere else. It may be at Williamstown [in Victoria], for instance, but the major focus for surface ship-building will be here in Adelaide,” he added.

Abbott’s “continuous shipbuilding” proposal came after criticism by defense experts that Australia would likely face a shortage of warships over the next 20 years without steps to accelerate naval construction and consequently also avoid downsizing the skilled workforce at ship yards.

Abbott refused to reveal any details over the ongoing and controversial competitive bidding process for a $39 billion contract to build Australia’s new submarine fleet in partnership with Australian industry.

“What we have asked the various potential partners to give us is a price for a domestic build, a hybrid build and offshore build,” Abbott said. “Based on what comes back to us in the coming months, we’ll make a decision.”

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PS Se a Nossa Marinha necessitar de umas MEKO/ANZAC para substituir as nossas fragatas, lá para 2024 consegue arranjar uma, com apenas dezoito anos, outra com dezanove anos e uma terceira com vinte anos de serviço....... :lol:  :lol:
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Enviado por: P44 em Outubro 10, 2015, 09:48:26 pm
PACIFIC 2015: Pictures of the Contenders for the Australian Navy SEA5000 ASW Frigate Program
 
At PACIFIC 2015, the international maritime exposition held recently in Sydney, most shipyards or shipbuilding groups attending the event unveiled the design of their proposal for the Royal Australian Navy (RAN) SEA5000 program. SEA5000 calls for the replacement of the RAN ANZAC class frigates. The Future Frigate is expected to have anti-submarine warfare (ASW) capabilities and the CEAFAR2 radar currently in development by CEA.

CEA would not comment on CEAFAR2 at the show by Navy Recognition understands it will be a tri-band (S, X, L) radar with plannar arrays on an integrated mast. It will be developped (as part of SEA1448 Ph4B) to be agnostic to the ship design chosen for SEA5000. At PACIFIC 2015, the new generation active phased array radar could be seen fitted on almost all the SEA5000 contenders (on scale models or in CGI).

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Navantia's SEA5000 proposal is based on the Hobart class Air Warfare Destroyer design
          
Navantia of Spain was the only one who showcased an actual scale model of its SEA5000 proposal. The vessel relies heavily on the Hobart class AWD design already selected by the RAN. A Navantia official explained there is "up to 70% commonality between the two platforms from a production stand point". The vessel would be fitted with 48x MK41 VLS cells, a SAAB combat management system and 2 helicopter hangars.

Navantia SEA5000 proposal basic specifications:
Original design: RAN Hobart class ASW
Length overall: 147.2 m
Max beam: 18.6 m
End of life displacement: 7400 t
Accommodation: 237
     
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DCNS SEA5000 proposal is based on the successful FREMM design
          
DCNS representative explained to Navy Recognition that the vessel shares the same hull (same engines, same displacement) based on the proven FREMM design. DCNS used its research and development work already conducted on the FREMM ER (unveiled at Euronaval 2012) to fine tune the design of the mast area for this SEA5000 proposal. As can be seen on the CGIs, the FREMM for Australia is fitted with a 127mm main gun and a Rheinmetall Millenium CIWS gun on top of the helicopter hangar. DCNS stresses that this is "a first approach to SEA5000 with known or anticipated requirements" and that it will adapt the design and systems fit as customer requirements emmerge. The FREMM was designed from the start by DCNS as a potent ASW platform with very low accoustic signature even at speed.

DCNS SEA5000 proposal basic specifications:
Original design: ASW FREMM (Aquitaine class)
Length: 142 m
Max beam: 20 m
Displacement: 6000 t
Accommodation: 145 to 180

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Fincantieri SEA5000 proposal is based on the Italian Navy FREMM ASW design
          
During an industry meeting at PACIFIC 2015, Fincantieri unveiled the design of its proposal for the SEA5000 Future Frigate program. Based on the Italian Navy FREMM ASW (Virginio Fasan class), Fincantieri says it recently conducted feasibility studies to proof the possibility to use its FREMM platform to cope with different Navy requirements (including Canada and Australia). The Italian FREMM "can easily accommodate the CEAFAR2 [ed. note Fincantieri presentation mentionned the CEA PAR system]; weigh, CVG, electrical power consumption and fluidic requirements are aligned with the platform capabilities, without the necessity of major modifications". Finally, Fincantieri says it can easily install the SAAB CMS on board.

Fincantieri SEA5000 proposal basic specifications:
Original design: ASW FREMM (Virginio Fasan class)
Length: 144 m
Max beam: 19.4 m
Displacement: 6,700 t
Accommodation: 167 (up to 200 for RAN)
     
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BAE Systems SEA5000 proposal is based on the future Royal Navy Type 26 design
          
The Type 26 is the future Anti-Submarine Warfare Frigate that will replace the Royal Navy's 13 Type 23 frigates and other ships. BAE Systems says the Type 26 / Global Combat Ship will be a highly capable and versatile multi-mission warship designed to support anti-submarine warfare, air defence and general purpose operations anywhere on the world’s oceans. Navy Recognition could not meet a BAE representative who could talk about the SEA5000 GCS but we understand that it would be fitted with Mk41 cells exclusively (no CAMM which are present on the UK design) as well as a BAE Systems Mk 45 5 inch main gun.

BAE Systems SEA5000 proposal basic specifications:
Original design: Global Combat Ship (Royal Navy Type 26)
Length: 148.5 m
Max beam: 20 m
Displacement: 6,000 t
Accommodation: 118 crew + 72 embarked forces
     
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TKMS SEA5000 proposal is based on the future German Navy F-125 design. Image: TKMS
          
TKMS representatives explained to Navy Recognition at the show that their SEA5000 proposal shares the same hull and machinery as the F-125 Frigate which matches the basic requirements. With its CODLOG propulsion system, the vessel can reach up to 20 knots on electric propulsion (and keep a very low accoustic level). F-125 can accomodate up to 64x VLS cells. The proposal for the RAN has 32x cells forward and 16x more between the two masts. Based on CGI, the SEA5000 configuration includes an Oto Melara 127mm main gun, two Phalanx CIWS (forward and aft) and two hangars. At 7,200 tons the F-125 is large ship, which is TKMS says is necessary for the South Pacific Ocean.

TKMS SEA5000 proposal basic specifications:
Original design: F-125 (Baden-Württemberg class)
Length: 149.5 m
Max beam: 18.8 m
Displacement: 7,200 t
Accommodation: 110 (up to 190)

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Mitsubishi Heavy Industries SEA5000 proposal is based on the 30DEX project
          
Japan Mod and MHI representatives told Navy Recognition at the show that the 30DEX (sometimes called 30DX or FFX) is a new concept that was shown in the mid-term defense buildup plan of Japan. The 30DX incorporates lessons learned on stealth and radar technology when MHI developped the ATD-X Shinshin stealth fighter experimental aircraft. Partners in the 30DX program include NEC, Fujitsu and Mitsubishi Electronics especially for the integrated mast and radars. The model on display at PACIFIC 2015 is an actual remote controlled model use to test the ballance of the hull in a test facility of the JMSDF. It features a Mk 45 main gun, 2x Marlin - WS by Oto Melera (forward) and a SeaRAM on top of the helicopter hangar. The hull is fitted with two shafts and two water jets to answer the high speed requirement of the JMSDF: 30DEX is required to reach 40 knots. For SEA5000 MHI is ready to integrate CEA's CEAFAR2 radar on 30DEX.

MHI SEA5000 proposal basic specifications:
Original design: 30DEX (MHI projet for JMSDF)
Length: 120 m
Max beam: 18 m
Displacement: About 3,000 t
Accommodation: About 100
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Enviado por: tenente em Outubro 13, 2015, 11:32:00 pm
Boas a todos,

Partilho com todos este post
http://www.w54.biz/showthread.php?638-RAN-News/page119 (http://www.w54.biz/showthread.php?638-RAN-News/page119)
do forum
http://www.w54.biz/forum.php (http://www.w54.biz/forum.php)

Ainda estamos a milhas desta situação vir a acontecer no nosso País, os nossos especialistas de pacotilha tem " Todas as opções acauteladas e controladas " Onde é que eu já ouvi isto e recentemente ......?

Guys, I need your help. Due to a contact I have we have a once in a lifetime chance to get our concerns heard at the very highest level.
 If you could point out to our new Defence Minister one or two major areas where the ADF procurement system has badly broken down, what would it be?
 I am posting this to the Australian Army and RAAF threads as well. I'm talking about issues like the fact that Tiger is approaching a mid-life update and is still unfit for deployment, that sort of thing.
 I am compiling your suggestions so they can be forwarded to Minister Payne. This is a no-shit opportunity to get key concerns directly to the Minister unfiltered by service chiefs and Defence bureaucrats.
 It has to be unemotional recourse to open source facts or something that can be easily identified, such as inability to deploy. Obviously no classified details such as warstocks.
 This is a real chance to get our concerns directly in front of the Minister, unfiltered.

  Unicorn


PS : Simplesmente espectacular !! Uma democracia a funcionar é o que é ! O comum dos mortais, que se importa com os problemas de defesa do seu País, a poder informar, sem ser emocionalmente, directamente o Ministro responsável sobre as suas ideias e propostas para algumas situações relativas á Defesa Nacional !  :wink:

Lá chegaremos !!!


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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: Crypter em Outubro 14, 2015, 12:07:43 am
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Lá chegaremos !!!


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Enviado por: mafets em Outubro 14, 2015, 10:04:59 am
http://www.janes.com/article/55176/dsme-navantia-unveil-design-proposals-for-new-ran-replenishment-ships
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DSME and Navantia have released further details on their respective proposals for Australia's tanker replacement programme
The companies are competing to replace two RAN support ships
South Korean shipyard Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering (DSME) and Spanish shipbuilder Navantia showcased their respective design proposals for the Royal Australian Navy's (RAN's) new afloat replenishment ships at the recent Pacific 2015 international maritime exposition and conference in Sydney.

In June 2014 the two companies were shortlisted to bid for Australia's Project SEA 1654 Phase 3, which seeks to replace the RAN supply ships HMAS Success (OR 304) and HMAS Sirius (O 266) with off-the-shelf acquisitions. In October 2014 both DSME and Navantia received parallel risk reduction contracts to complete their respective design baselines to meet the RAN's specific needs.

DSME's proposal is based on BMT Defence Services' Aegir 18A support ship design. A model of the proposal was revealed for the first time at Pacific 2015, following completion of the risk reduction studies, Wan-Ho Jo from DSME's naval and special ship marketing team told IHS Jane's .

The design proposal features a length of 180 m, an overall beam of 26 m, a draught of 13 m, and a standard displacement of 25,800 tonnes, according to specifications provided by the company.

"The design is very similar to the logistics support vessel that is being built for the Royal Norwegian Navy," said Jo, who added that the proposal includes air-conditioning modifications to suit the climatic conditions in which the ships will be operating.
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The Spanish Navy's auxiliary oiler replenishment vessel SPS Cantabria, pictured in Sydney Harbour, Australia. Cantabria previously has spent almost nine months operating with the Royal Australian Navy, and forms the basis for Navantia's design proposal under Australia's Project SEA 1654 Phase 3. Source: IHS/Russell Smith

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Enviado por: tenente em Outubro 14, 2015, 08:09:03 pm
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Caro tenente, levo eu a cadeira ou trazes tu?

Eu posso levar cadeiras para os dois, é defeito meu ser optimista perante a realidade Portuguesa no que á Defesa Nacional diz respeito, eu sei, e mais, ainda acredito no Pai Natal, deixem-me sonhar !!!!!  :wink:  :wink:

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Enviado por: tenente em Outubro 15, 2015, 05:59:55 pm
Industry Confirms Australia’s Hobart Class Destroyers $870 Million Over Budget, Lead Ship 30 Months Late

October 14, 2015 12:14 PM

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An artist’s conception of the Hobart-class guided missile destroyer

 SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA — The consortium building three air warfare destroyers (AWDs) for the Royal Australian Navy has provided an update on the construction of the ships, as well as an overview on the lessons learned from the delays and cost overruns that have plagued the program.

 Speaking at a conference on the sidelines of the Pacific 2015 International Maritime Exposition in Sydney, Australia, Rod Equid, chief executive officer of the AWD Alliance, also touted steady progress on the remaining two ships even as the lead ship, HMAS Hobart nears completion.

 The ships were ordered as part of Australia’s SEA 4000 program for a new class of AWDs to replace the Royal Australian Navy’s Adelaide-class (Oliver Hazard Perry) frigates and its stopgap air warfare capability with the Raytheon SM-2 surface-to-air missile as part of requirements outlined in the 2000 Australian Defense White Paper.

 Australia’s Hobart-class AWDs are based on a Spanish Navantia F100 frigate hull modified to Australian requirements, chief of which is a Lockheed-Martin Aegis combat system. Navantia’s design won selection as the hull-form for the AWD in 2007, despite U.S naval company Gibbs and Cox having previously been considered the favorite with an offer of an evolved design based on scaled-down variant of the Arleigh-Burke Flight II-class design.

 The AWD Alliance is a contract arrangement between the Commonwealth of Australia represented by the Capabilities and Sustainment Group (formerly the Defense Matériel Organization) as owner-participant, ASC and Raytheon Australia. Navantia, for its part, declined to be part of the alliance, instead opting to sign a platform system design contract with the Alliance.

 Soon after construction on the AWDs began in 2010 with the fabrication of pre-fabricated hull blocks at three widely-distributed locations in Australia, reports began emerging of challenges facing the process. These reportedly were primarily related to workforce inexperience with Equid estimating that 95 percent of the workforce was new hires who needed to be trained in the specialized roles they were working in, but also because of issues with drawings available for the alliance to work with.

 These resulted in construction delays from the block subcontractors at an early stage of the construction phase, which were exacerbated by the typical “Ship One” issues and the high level of concurrency, which had the effect delivering changes to production throughout construction. The level of engineering effort was underestimated from the start, with project schedules turning out to be too optimistic.

Overall, it was estimated that the construction schedule for the lead AWD, Hobart, has slipped by approximately 30 months, with Equid confirming that costs had overrun to the tune of $870 million. He also touted improvements as the alliance gains experience from ship to ship, citing a 30 percent improvement in second AWD (Brisbane) over the first, with a further 20 percent improvement seen in the construction in the third ship, Sydney.

The schedule was now more realistic and on plan, with the Hobart now in the water since May 2015 with the ship then 76 percent complete. Hobart will commence sea trials in Sept 2016, with delivery to the RAN scheduled for July 2017. Brisbane is now 68 percent complete and close to achieving the construction milestone of completing hull integration with a planned delivery date of September 2018.

 Moving on to lessons learned, Equid cited the age-old points of having a realistic plan that matched the complexity of the undertaking and the need to better manage concurrency of design-design maturity issues. The problems with having a transactional relationship with Navantia, where the Spanish shipyard opted out of the alliance and instead signed a relatively low-value contract providing services was cited, but deemed “unavoidable” by Equid.

 A 2014 Australian National Audit Office report explained this situation, saying that “there was limited incentive for Navantia to put its own profit share at risk by entering an alliance agreement with a new shipbuilder, and taking part in a pain-share gain-share regime it imposed on (its) potential profit,” with the result of this was that it detracted the ability of the alliance to collectively and collaboratively manage risk.

 A recent plan to advance the schedule for building frigates and offshore patrol vessels under Projects SEA 5000 and SEA 1180 respectively and to emphasize domestic production effectively commits the government to a permanent naval shipbuilding industry in Australia, and would hopefully see the skilled labor issues that bedevilled the early construction stages of the AWD program not be repeated in future Australian naval shipbuilding programs.

 However, although that decision was made before Australia’s recent prime ministerial changes, with current Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull not having committed to the continuous-build plan since taking office in September.

http://www.w54.biz/showthread.php?638-RAN-News/page120 (http://www.w54.biz/showthread.php?638-RAN-News/page120)

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Enviado por: tenente em Outubro 19, 2015, 10:53:51 pm
Upgraded electronic surveillance fit rolls out for ANZAC frigates

IHS Jane's Navy International  18 October 2015

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HMAS Warramunga is the first RAN ANZAC-class frigate to receive the ES-3701 ES fit. Source: Commonwealth of Australia

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• HMAS Warramunga is the first RAN ANZAC frigate to receive the Exelis ES-3701 electronic support system being acquired under Project SEA 1448 Phase 4A
• Jenkins Engineering Defence Systems and Ultra Electronics Avalon Systems are in-country industry partners

 Royal Australian Navy (RAN) ANZAC-class frigates have started to receive an upgraded tactical electronic surveillance capability under Project SEA 1448 Phase 4A.
 HMAS Warramunga is the first of the eight ANZAC frigates to receive the new fit, which based on the Exelis ES-3701 electronic support (ES) system. The project also includes the provision of ES mission system emulators for training and a ground based support segment for ES mission system reprogramming.

 Project SEA 1448 Phase 4A was established to replace the legacy Thales Centaur ES system, and so provide the ANZAC frigates with improved passive situational awareness and early threat warning. It additionally addresses the ES requirement for the RAN's two new multipurpose landing helicopter dock ships HMAS Canberra and HMAS Adelaide .

 Project SEA 1448 Phase 4A received Second Pass Approval from government in February 2013. A contract valued at more than USD102 million was signed with Exelis the following month.

 Jenkins Engineering Defence Systems (JEDS) and Ultra Electronics Avalon Systems (UEAS) are local industry partners to Exelis for the development of the customised ES-3701 variant specific to the RAN. JEDS has been given responsibility as in-country support partner (assuming Authorised Engineering Organisation status), and is also producing the low-band receiver subsystem.

 UEAS is supplying a narrow-band receiver subsystem based on its proprietary MDRx digital receiver. This will perform an automatic electronic surveillance role using phase DF, as well as a 'fine grain' electronic intelligence function.

 Factory acceptance testing of the first ES-3701 system acquired under Project SEA 1448 Phase 4A was completed in March 2015. Delivery of production systems and installation of the capability across the Anzac class began in the third of quarter 2015 with the ship fit to Warramunga .

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Enviado por: tenente em Outubro 19, 2015, 10:58:47 pm
Esta fragata Australiana HMAS Warramunga tem quinze anos, quem sabe se ainda não vai terminar a sua vida operacional na MdGP............ :lol:  :lol:

Se bem que as três que nos interessavam, se fosse opção a sua aquisição para substituição das VdG, seriam as HMAS Ballarat, F155 que iniciou serviço em 26JUN04, a HMAS Toowoomba F156 em 08OUT05 e a HMAS Perth F157 em 26AGO06, ou seja respectivamente doze, treze e catorze anos mais novas que a classe VdG.

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Enviado por: tenente em Outubro 23, 2015, 11:56:30 am
Algumas fotos das primeiras operações com Chinooks CH-47 a bordo do HMAS Camberra.
Espero que gostem

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Montes de espaço para operar estes Helis .

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Aproximação " Limpinha " !!!

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A descolar.


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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: olisipo em Dezembro 01, 2015, 11:52:54 am
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Navantia entrega a Australia  las 4 últimas lanchas de desembarco de las 12 encargadas

http://www.sepi.es/default.aspx?cmd=0004&IdContent=34902&idLanguage=&lang=
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Enviado por: olisipo em Dezembro 08, 2015, 02:19:20 pm
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Spain's Navantia to oversee Australia's Air Warfare Destroyer programme

http://www.janes.com/article/56497/navantia-to-oversee-australia-s-air-warfare-destroyer-programme
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Enviado por: olisipo em Dezembro 08, 2015, 05:57:29 pm
 

Exercício de salvamento e escape de submarino com a Marinha Real Australiana

http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2015/12/05/exercicio-de-salvamento-e-escape-de-submarino-com-a-marinha-real-australiana
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Enviado por: olisipo em Março 11, 2016, 01:20:51 pm
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Navantia has been downselected to build the replenishment vessels, one of which will replace HMAS Syrius, seen
here on a replenishment exercise.

Australia selects Navantia for new replenishment ships

http://www.janes.com/article/58705/australia-selects-navantia-for-new-replenishment-ship
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Enviado por: Cabeça de Martelo em Março 11, 2016, 03:02:16 pm
A Austrália está a ser a galinha dos ovos de ouro da Navantia.  8)
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Enviado por: P44 em Março 12, 2016, 04:54:19 pm
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NavyRecognition ‏@NavyRecognition 21 hHá 21 horas

.@Australian_Navy Fifth #ANZAC class #Frigate ASM Defence Upgrade Almost Complete http://buff.ly/1RaS2Bt
 

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Enviado por: olisipo em Abril 26, 2016, 12:22:03 pm


France wins A$50bn Australia contract to build 12 submarines, beating Japan and Germany

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-36136628
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Enviado por: olisipo em Abril 26, 2016, 12:57:15 pm


A notícia, na versão de Euronews
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Enviado por: NVF em Abril 26, 2016, 03:13:44 pm
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-26/france-wins-39-billion-contract-to-build-australian-submarines (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-26/france-wins-39-billion-contract-to-build-australian-submarines)
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Enviado por: NVF em Abril 26, 2016, 09:48:18 pm
http://theconversation.com/why-the-french-submarine-won-the-bid-to-replace-the-collins-class-58223 (http://theconversation.com/why-the-french-submarine-won-the-bid-to-replace-the-collins-class-58223)
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Enviado por: olisipo em Junho 07, 2016, 12:47:01 pm

Australia marks first operational deployment of upgraded ANZAC-class frigate

http://www.janes.com/article/61013/australia-marks-first-operational-deployment-of-updraded-anzac-class-frigate
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Enviado por: olisipo em Junho 09, 2016, 11:46:07 am


Australian Navy/Army validate new amphibious capabilities
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Enviado por: Lusitano89 em Setembro 24, 2016, 04:08:28 pm
Royal Australian Navy Air Warfare Destroyer Hobart Sea Trials


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Enviado por: P44 em Dezembro 15, 2016, 07:46:50 pm
#Australia launches HMAS BRISBANE, 2nd Aegis-equipped Air Warfare Destroyer

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Enviado por: mafets em Dezembro 21, 2016, 09:49:25 am
http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2016/12/20/nuship-hobart-d-39-e-nuship-brisbane-d-41-fitting-out-no-estaleiro-asc-pty-ltd/ (http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2016/12/20/nuship-hobart-d-39-e-nuship-brisbane-d-41-fitting-out-no-estaleiro-asc-pty-ltd/)
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NUSHIP ‘Hobart‘ – D 39 / VKLB e NUSHIP ‘Brisbane‘ – D 41 / VKLC, em fase de acabamento no cais do estaleiro ASC Pty td., Techport, Osborne, South Austrália, em imagem do dia 20/12/2016.

Versão australiana da classe F 100 da Navantia espanhola, encomendada em 4 de outubro de 2007, com previsão de comissionamento da primeira unidade, futuro HMAS ‘Hobart‘  em junho de 2017.
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Enviado por: mafets em Janeiro 09, 2017, 10:38:38 am
http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2017/01/03/italia-envia-fragata-fremm-para-turne-promocional-na-australia/ (http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2017/01/03/italia-envia-fragata-fremm-para-turne-promocional-na-australia/)
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A turnê promocional, que é apoiada pela Fincantieri, construtora do navio, incluirá escalas em Fremantle, Adelaide, Sydney e Melbourne, informaram oficiais da Marinha italiana em 16 de dezembro.
Em abril, a Austrália selecionou propostas da BAE Systems, Fincantieri e Navantia para o programa do país para a construção de nove novas fragatas.

A oferta da BAE baseia-se na fragata Tipo 26, enquanto a Navantia propõe uma versão redesenhada da sua fragata classe Álvaro de Bazán (F100).

A fragata FREMM que faz a viagem, a Carabiniere, é da versão de guerra antissubmarino ASW e foi entregue à Marinha Italiana em abril de 2015, o quinto de dez unidades a serem comissionadas. Na turnê o navio vai levar um helicóptero NH90 e realizar exercícios ASW com os australianos.
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Enviado por: Menacho em Fevereiro 03, 2017, 09:21:14 pm
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Spanish Future Frigate design contender arrives in Australia

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Spanish Navy’s Navantia-built frigate ESPS Cristóbal Colón arrived in Perth, Australia with the aim of integrating into the Royal Australian Navy.

Apart from training and navy to navy engagements, another reason for the F-100 frigate to visit Australia was the fact that Spanish shipbuilder Navantia is one of the designers shortlisted for the design of the Australian Navy’s Future Frigate that will replace the existing Anzac-class frigates.

Similarly to the Italian Navy’s Bergamini-class frigate ITS Carabiniere which arrived in Australia last month showcasing Fincantieri’s FREMM frigate design, ESPS Cristóbal Colón will promote Navantia’s F-100 design.

Cristóbal Colón is expected to spend the next 120 days integrated into the Royal Australian Navy.

During the 10,300-mile transit towards Australia, the F-105 participated in NATO’s anti-terrorist operation Sea Guardian and the EU operation Sophia against human trafficking in the Mediterranean Sea. After crossing the Suez Canal, Cristóbal Colón also took part in the counter-piracy operation Atalanta in the Indian Ocean.

The transit was also used to conduct combined exercises with the navies of Italy, Saudi Arabia, India and Malaysia with port calls in Jeddah, Mumbai and Singapore.

After arriving at Rockingham on February 19, Cristóbal Colón was greeted by the Australian Fleet Commander, Rear Admiral Stuart Mayer. During the welcoming ceremony, the operational command of the ship was officially transferred to the Royal Australian Navy which meant that as of February 19, the F-105 was fully integrated into the RAN.

The ship will remain in Rockingham for a few days participating in the coordination meetings prior to the two-week CJTF exercise Ocean Explorer 17 to be conducted in Western Australia. This Combined Joint Task Force will have different naval, air and land elements from Australia, New Zeeland, the United States and Spain.

This will be the first of a series of advanced exercises intended to enhance the strategic association and interoperability between the Spanish Navy and the RAN. The F-105 will also provide training to the crews of the new Hobart-class anti-air warfare destroyers (AWD). To this end, forty RAN servicemen will integrate into the crew of the Spanish frigate.

The Cristóbal Colón is scheduled to visit the ports of Fremantle, Adelaide, Sidney, Brisbane, Cairns and Townsville.

https://navaltoday.com/2017/02/21/spanish-future-frigate-design-contender-arrives-in-australia/
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Enviado por: mafets em Março 03, 2017, 10:49:26 am
http://www.janes.com/article/68265/australian-army-conducts-flights-trials-of-tiger-helicopters-on-hmas-canberra (http://www.janes.com/article/68265/australian-army-conducts-flights-trials-of-tiger-helicopters-on-hmas-canberra)

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The Australian Army has begun flight trials of its Tiger Armed Reconnaissance Helicopter (ARH) onboard the Royal Australian Navy's (RAN's) first-of-class amphibious assault ship, HMAS Canberra (L 02).

The trials, which are being conducted with two airframes since 23 February, are expected to continue over the next six weeks in Sydney, according to the Australian Department of Defence (DoD).

"We are doing a full ship helicopter operating limitation development on all six flight deck spots," said Lieutenant Grant Thaler, a flight test engineer from the RAN's aircraft maintenance and flight trials unit, in a report published by the service's official news site on 27 February.

The Tiger helicopters are expected to operate as forward scouting platforms, and as an escort to the country's MRH90 helicopters, when deployed from on board the amphibious assault ships, the report added.

According to Jane's World Armies, Australia currently operates a fleet of 22 Tiger ARH helicopters. The aircraft, which were delivered between 2004 and 2011, achieved full operational capability (FOC) with the Australian Army in mid-2016. The platform can each carry a combination of AGM-114M Hellfire air-to-ground missiles and 70 mm unguided rockets, in addition to a stabilised 30 mm automatic cannon.
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HMAS Canberra conducting first-of-class flight trials with the Tiger armed reconnaissance helicopter (ARH). Source: Commonwealth of Australia

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA - Anzac-class frigates upgrade
Enviado por: tenente em Março 09, 2017, 02:15:02 pm
Australian Anzac-class frigates complete anti-ship missile defense upgrade program

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Photo: BAE Systems

Royal Australian Navy’s Anzac-class frigate HMAS Stuart is set to complete her anti-ship missile defense upgrade this week, marking the completion of an Australian Navy capability upgrade program that spanned seven years.

Completion of works on HMAS Stuart was announced by contractor BAE Systems who spent the last twelve months working on the final of eight frigates in the class to undergo the upgrade.

The frigate will spend the next few months performing builder’s and sea trials before it returns to the fleet later this year.

During work on the anti-ship missile defense upgrade, the frigates received a new ‘cupola’ mast to house the CEA Phased Array Radar, underwent engineering changes and received a coat of the new Royal Australian Navy ‘haze grey’ paint.

Saab Australia and BAE Systems are the main contractors responsible for upgrading the frigates. HMAS Perth was the first frigate to complete the upgrade in 2011 and HMAS Towoomba, the seventh ASMD-ready frigate undocked on September 13, 2016.

BAE Systems has also started preparatory works on HMS Perth for the Anzac Midlife Capability upgrade Program which will take several months. She will return at a future date for the remainder of the upgrades to be implemented, the company said.

The Midlife Capability upgrade Program is part of a $2 billion, six-year contract which includes improvements to the Anzac fleet including engines, propulsion, lighting, heating, cooling and communications systems, torpedo self-defence, and Nulka enhancements.

HMAS Arunta is scheduled for docking at Henderson in September this year. She will be the first ship to receive all of her upgrades during her 12 months on the hard stand at BAE Systems Henderson.

https://navaltoday.com/2017/03/09/australian-anzac-class-frigates-complete-anti-ship-missile-defense-upgrade-program/

PS : Pois é Navios mais modernos que os nossos, o primeiro de 1996 e o último de 2006, e já com upgrades efectuados.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzac-class_frigate

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: Menacho em Março 12, 2017, 12:39:52 pm
Espectacular imagen a gran resolución:

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Abril 13, 2017, 04:12:52 pm
Australia could benefit from shorter warship service life, study suggests


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Photo: ASC Shipyard

Reducing the service life of major Royal Australian Navy ships from 30 to 20 years could prove beneficial both for the navy and the Australian shipbuilding industry, a study carried out by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) suggests.

The study was done in light of current Australian Navy shipbuilding plans with the acquisition of Future Frigates and submarines ahead.

Authors of the study suggested that shortening the service life from 30 to 20 years could be more in line with the Australian government’s goals of establishing a continuous shipbuilding enterprise.

According to the study, the costs of operating warships during both a 20-year and a 30-year time span were similar for the navy’s current destroyers, frigates and submarines. So rather than focusing on cost savings, the study suggests that a 20-year service life could provide more options when it comes to the upkeep of ships’ capabilities and having a shipbuilding industry ready to accelerate warship construction should need arise.

The study noted that the current Australian start-stop approach to ship acquisition with a 30-year service made the planing of upgrades more complicated than it would have likely been under a continuous design and construction program.

The study used the U.S. Navy destroyer program to illustrate the options a continuous shipbuilding program could provide noting how the U.S. destroyers have demonstrated they could retain operational capabilities for what will likely be a 60-year time frame if the Flight III destroyers are built.

“The conclusion that can be drawn is that a continuous design and construction approach enables flexible replacement and upgrade options that might otherwise be unavailable. Either an upgrade or a replacement approach —or both—can be chosen, depending on the considerations of the day, whether they be strategic, fiscal or otherwise,” the study said.

https://navaltoday.com/2017/04/13/australia-could-benefit-from-shorter-warship-service-life-study-suggests/

Com um pouco de sorte aqui estão as futuras fragatas que vão substituir as nossas VdG !!!!

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Abril 15, 2017, 10:12:16 am
Exactamente como por cá nós vamos fazendo, não é ???????

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-15/government-confident-of-cutting-steel-on-future-frigates-fleet/8445914

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Abril 26, 2017, 08:23:21 am
Australia kicks off replacement Pacific Patrol Boat construction

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Austal Pacific Patrol Boat replacement design. Photo: Austal

Australia started the construction phase of the replacement Pacific Patrol Boat program with a steel cutting ceremony in Western Australia on April 26.

Up to 21 steel-hulled vessels are set to replace the existing fleet of Pacific Patrol Boats as part of Australia’s new Pacific Maritime Security Program.

Austal is in charge of designing and constructing the first 19 vessels in Henderson, Western Australia.

Minister for Defence Industry, the Hon Christopher Pyne MP, attended the steel cutting ceremony at HD Plasma and Laser Cutting Services in Bibra Lake.

“HD Plasma and Laser Cutting Services has been contracted by Austal for the supply, transport, storage and cutting of Australian manufactured steel plate,” Minister Pyne said.

“This is a fantastic example of what we are trying to achieve and highlights the benefits of building ships in Australia because the supply chain wins work and jobs are created.”

Once constructed and tested the vessels will be handed to the Australian Government and subsequently given to 12 Pacific Island countries as part of Australia’s new Pacific Maritime Security Program.

The first vessel is scheduled for delivery in late 2018.

Two vessels have also been offered to a new member of the program, Timor-Leste, with an option for these additional vessels to be constructed by Austal at an agreed fixed price should Timor-Leste accept the offer.

https://navaltoday.com/2017/04/26/australia-kicks-off-replacement-pacific-patrol-boat-construction/

Ora bem se me permitem

1º Navio entregue em finais de 2018 quando o 1º corte do aço foi efectuado hoje 26 de Abril, ano e meio para um Navio estar operacional, exactamente como por cá, o tal país que nem consegue atempadamente construir patrulhas Costeiros e nem dinheiro tem para os Armar/Equipar devidamente !!!!!!!
Haja dinheiro para os amigos que estão nos nossos Bancos, pois o pilim que lá está sai dos nossos bolsos e do nosso trabalho, e  para as festas que os nossos Políticozecos vão fazendo para comemorar a DEMOCRACIA DELES !!
São estes pequenos pormenores que fazem as grandes diferenças, mas nós é que somos os RICOS...........sem mais comentários.

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: mafets em Maio 23, 2017, 09:24:51 am
Continuam os problemas... :o
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The Royal Australian Navy has conceded there might be design faults with its two largest ships which have been docked in Sydney since March undergoing urgent repair work.

Engineers are still trying to identify what is causing problems with the "azimuth" propulsion system on board the $1.5 billion Landing Helicopter Docks (LHDs) HMAS Canberra and HMAS Adelaide.

"It may well be a design issue," conceded Rear Admiral Adam Grunsell, the head of maritime systems in Defence's Capability Acquisition and Sustainment Group.This week, HMAS Adelaide was placed into dry dock at the Garden Island naval base so the ship's propulsion pods could be removed for a thorough examination.

The diesel-electric powered propellers which sit at the stern of the LHDs are known as "azi-pods" and are mounted on steerable pods that have a 360-degree rotation.

Preliminary samples taken from the propulsion pods on board HMAS Adelaide have identified metal fragments in lubricants, while faulty engine seals on HMAS Canberra are believed to be responsible for the "migration", or leaking, of various oil types into different engine areas.

Asked whether the problems could be due to a design fault or because the ships have been operating at sea for too many days, Chief of Navy Vice Admiral Tim Barrett said it was too early to say.

"I would not speculate on any of those outcomes, but clearly in a root cause analysis you have to consider all of those options," he said.



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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: HSMW em Maio 24, 2017, 08:10:44 pm
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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Novembro 20, 2017, 08:45:23 am
Australia’s second air warfare destroyer ‘Brisbane’ starts sea trials

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AWD Alliance photo of future HMAS Brisbane

Royal Australian Navy’s future air warfare destroyer (AWD) Brisbane has started her first phase of sea trials, the alliance in charge of delivering the destroyers announced on Monday.

The second of three destroyers to be built will spend the coming weeks on sea trials, marking further progress towards her delivery to the Royal Australian Navy next year.

This first phase of sea trials will test the ship’s propulsion, manoeuvring, control and navigation systems and will be followed by a more advanced phase of sea trials next year to test Brisbane’s combat and communications systems.

“Our workforce of more than 1,700 in Adelaide has improved and evolved the production and set to work of these ships, with our whole team working hard to achieve this milestone ahead of post-reform schedule targets,” said Paul Evans, AWD Alliance General Manager.

The AWD enterprise partners include the Australian defense department, Raytheon Australia as the combat systems integrator, ASC as the shipbuilder and Navantia as the shipbuilder manager.

Raytheon Australia managing director Michael Ward commended the team on today’s achievement. “As the combat systems integrator for the AWD program, Raytheon Australia has applied its highly skilled Australian workforce of 350 architects, systems engineers and project managers to the AWD program over the last decade,” he said.

Mid-next year, Brisbane will be delivered to the Royal Australian Navy to join her sister ship, HMAS Hobart, and will be followed in quick succession by the delivery of the third and final Air Warfare Destroyer, Sydney, in 2019.

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Novembro 24, 2017, 10:41:10 am
Australia picks Lürssen for AU$4b offshore patrol vessel project

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Lürssen photo of the OPV80 design

The fleet of 12 new Royal Australian Navy offshore patrol vessels will be built by German ship designer Lürssen as prime contractor, the Australian government announced on November 24.

The government further stressed that OPV project, which is worth up to AU$4 billion, will be delivered by “Australian workers, in Australian shipyards using Australian steel”.

The design for the 12 new vessels will be based on Lürssen’s OPV80 design adapted to Australian requirements.

Somewhat bigger than the four OPVs Lürssen built for the Royal Brunei Navy, Australian OPVs will be 80 meters in length with a displacement of 1700 tonnes and a draught of 4 meters.
The vessels will be fitted with a 40mm gun for self-protection, three 8.4m sea boats, and command and communication systems. This will allow the OPVs to operate alongside Australian Border Force vessels and other Australian Defence Force units.
The vessels will accommodate up to 60 personnel, including a crew of around 40 Navy personnel and have the ability to accept modular mission packs such as unmanned aerial systems.

First two ships will be built by ASC Shipbuilding in Adelaide and the project will then transfer to the Henderson Maritime Precinct in WA where Lürssen will use the capabilities of Austal and Civmec to build ten OPVs, subject to the conclusion of commercial negotiations.

The first of the 12 OPVs will start production in the fourth quarter of 2018 and is expected to enter service in 2021 starting the replacement of the current Armidale-class patrol boats.

https://navaltoday.com/2017/11/24/australia-picks-lurssen-for-au4b-offshore-patrol-vessel-project/

PS : Ou seja 12 NPO's por 2.457 milhões de Euros, 204 milhões p/ Navio !!!  :conf:
teria sido EXCELENTE se tivesse sido possível aos West Sea, concorrer com uma versão da classe Viana do castelo, digamos por 50 milhões a unidade ???
:G-deal:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darussalam-class_offshore_patrol_vessel

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Dezembro 01, 2017, 09:14:17 am
Australian Navy retires S-70B-2, AS350BA helicopters from active service

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Royal Australian Navy photo of AS350BA Squirrel helicopters performing their signature Pairs Aerobatic Display in 2015

The Royal Australian Navy has formally retired its S-70B-2 Bravo Seahawk and AS350BA Squirrel helicopters in a ceremony at naval air station HMAS Albatross on December 1.
The Seahawk has been in the Fleet Air Arm inventory for 29 years and was operationally deployed in the Middle East throughout its entire service history.
The Squirrel has served for 33 years amassing an enviable record in both operations and training.
Commander Fleet Air Arm, Commodore Chris Smallhorn said both aircraft had a proud record of service to the nation.

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“Today we farewelled two magnificent aircraft with pride in our heart and tears in our eyes,” he said. “During the 1990-91 Gulf War the Squirrel carried out shipping surveillance, mine searches and top cover for helicopter boarding operations.

“It was also deployed in East Timor and on numerous disaster relief operations, including the 2001 ‘Black Christmas Bushfire’ crisis and the 2011 South East Queensland and Victoria floods.
“Over the last three decades the majority of naval aviators have trained in the Squirrel and many, including myself, have wonderfully fond memories of their time flying the ‘Cyril’ as many affectionately referred to the AS350.
“A machine that has served its country in peace and war and across three services, it’s a truly impressive chapter in Navy’s story,” Commodore Smallhorn said.

The S-70B-2 Bravo Seahawk was designed specifically for navy’s needs when it was introduced in 1989. Labelled a Role Adaptable Weapons System due to the flexibility it brought to the fleet, the S-70B-2 performed anti-submarine and surface operations in addition to secondary utility type missions.
The Bravo Seahawk has also fought fires, flood and extreme weather events along with conducting many challenging rescue operations at sea, one of the most famous and difficult being during the ill-fated the 1998 Sydney to Hobart yacht race.
The retirement of the two aircraft was done as part of Ceremonial Divisions at HMAS Albatross and Chief of Navy, Vice Admiral Tim Barrett, took the opportunity to congratulate Albatross on the fine turn out.

“The work done here at Albatross is not always easy and it is very important for the nation,” he said.
“Whether you are a logistician, a maintainer or an operator; whether you are part of a project, a training organisation, or an enabling service your role is important in ensuring that the squadrons, commands, services and groups can achieve the operational outputs required of us by government and ultimately the Australian people. Thank you.”

https://navaltoday.com/2017/12/01/australian-navy-retires-s-70b-2-as350ba-helicopters-from-active-service/

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Dezembro 05, 2017, 10:17:38 am
Australian base HMAS Cairns set for AU$300m upgrade in preparation for new OPVs

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HMAS Cairns Naval Base. Photo: Royal Australian Navy

Royal Australian Navy base HMAS Cairns will be undergoing a $300 million upgrade to accommodate new offshore patrol vessels to be built under German shipbuilder Lurssen as prime contractor.

HMAS Cairns will be home to four of the new vessels.

The upgrades were announced by member of the House of Representatives, Warren Entsch MP, Member for Leichardt, who noted that the government approval for investment represented an additional $200 million for works on the upgrade.

“This comes on top of the $22 million which has already been planned for a mid-term refresh in 2019-20, and another $313 million for the redevelopment of HMAS Cairns post 2025-26,” Entsch said.

“That takes the overall committed spend for HMAS CAIRNS to $635 million over the next 12 years, which is $215 million more than the $420 million which was first committed in the in the white paper.”

The 12 new offshore patrol vessel, to be delivered by Lurssen under a project worth up to AU$4 billion, will start construction in the fourth quarter of 2018 and are expected to start entering service in 2021.

Based on Lurssen’s OPV80 design adapted to Australian requirements, the vessels will be 80 meters in length with a displacement of 1700 tonnes and a draught of 4 meters.

The vessels will be fitted with a 40mm gun for self-protection, three 8.4m sea boats, and command and communication systems. This will allow the OPVs to operate alongside Australian Border Force vessels and other Australian Defence Force units.

https://navaltoday.com/2017/12/05/australian-base-hmas-cairns-set-for-au300m-upgrade-in-preparation-for-new-opvs/

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Dezembro 11, 2017, 08:26:27 am
Australian Navy frigate HMAS Darwin retires after 33 years of service

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HMAS Darwin's ceremonial guard, march from the ship during the decommissioning ceremony at Fleet Base East in Sydney. Photo: Royal Australian Navy

Royal Australian Navy frigate HMAS Darwin concluded her 33 years of service and was decommissioned in a ceremony at her homeport of Garden Island, Sydney.
In a ceremony on December 9, Chief of Navy, Vice Admiral Tim Barrett, paid tribute to the service of the ship’s company past and present.

“Darwin has laid down a proud history over her 33 years,” Vice Admiral Barrett said.
“The ship and her successive companies have served Australia with distinction, being awarded battle honours three times for successful maritime security operations.
“It is through the hard work and dedication of the crews who have called Darwin home that made this frigate so effective over such a long career.”

Since commissioning in 1984, the Adelaide-class frigate has steamed over a million nautical miles, visited more than 50 countries, and undertaken operations in the Middle East, East Timor, and the Solomon Islands.
HMAS Darwin and her sister ships Melbourne and Newcastle are being replaced by the Hobart-class guided missile destroyers, first of which entered service in September this year.

https://navaltoday.com/2017/12/11/australian-navy-frigate-hmas-darwin-retires-after-33-years-of-service/

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PS : as nossas VdG já vão com 26 anos !


Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Dezembro 11, 2017, 01:09:14 pm
Australia bolsters naval shipbuilding workforce retention strategy

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Australian defense industry minister Christopher Pyne visited the Osborne shipyard in Adelaide to announce new positions. Photo: Twitter

In a bid to keep as many skilled naval shipbuilders within the industry, the Australian defense industry minister announced that shipbuilders currently working on the air warfare destroyer project would transition to support Collins-class submarine sustainment work as the destroyer project winds down.

To enable this, up to 200 new positions will be created within ASC Submarines in Adelaide.

In addition to Collins-class sustainment work, workers will undertake training and upskilling to support naval construction programs.

Defense industry minister Christopher Pyne said as many as 100 scholarships would be offered to workers to support opportunities to upskill in roles in operations management, computer-aided design, and engineering and supply chain fields.

“Over the next 10 years, the size and skill level of the naval shipbuilding workforce will need to increase significantly to meet the demands of the various shipbuilding programs,” minister Pyne said.

“To meet these challenges we need to keep as many of the workers currently building the air warfare destroyers in the naval shipbuilding industry as possible.”

“This initiative is on top of the offshore patrol vessel decision made recently, creating up to 400 direct jobs and 600 indirect jobs, and the announcement that Australian naval infrastructure will create 600 additional jobs to redevelop the Osborne South shipyard.

“We are stabilising the shipbuilding workforce. With the future frigates decision to be made early next year and further workforce decisions made as required, things are truly on the up at Osborne,” Pyne added.

Australian federal minister for finance Mathias Cormann said the workforce package would ensure the retention of critical workforce skills in anticipation of future shipbuilding programs.

“With ASC’s performance on the air warfare destroyers continually improving, we now have a highly skilled naval shipbuilding workforce in South Australia.”

https://navaltoday.com/2017/12/11/australia-bolsters-naval-shipbuilding-workforce-retention-strategy/

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Dezembro 13, 2017, 06:37:22 am
Drastic turnaround in Future Frigates Program

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HMAS Perth, one of the Anzac class frigates to be replaced under the SEA 5000 program. Image via Commonwealth of Australia, Department of Defence.
Maritime and Undersea Warfare | 12 December 2017 | Amelia McMahon

On the back of the surprising SEA1180 Offshore Patrol Vessel decision, Defence may backflip on its decision to not mandate the use of ASC Shipbuilding or existing shipbuilding workforces on the Future Frigates Program.
ASC Shipbuilding CEO Mark Lamarre spoke with Defence Connect about the $35 billion SEA5000 project and said the organisation’s initial fears of missing out on a role in the project have dissipated.
Lamarre said the government’s decision to have ASC build the first two of 12 OPVs in South Australia, with the remaining 10 to be built by Austal and Civmec in Western Australia, has seen a change in dialogue with the three companies bidding for the SEA5000 project – BAE Systems, Fincantieri and Navantia.

“We were concerned when the [SEA5000] request for tender became public, with some of what we read there and since that time there's been a bit of change with the dialogue that we've had with the Future Frigate designers,” explained Lamarre.
“But since the award of the OPV project the announcement that ASC shipbuilding would be building those ships, all three designers are back to the table, everybody is very enthusiastic, and we're actively working through models to collaborate for the future.”
“My optimism is very high now in that we will have a prominent role.”

ASC’s contribution to the Future Frigates Program has been far from assured, with Labor senator Kim Carr and Nick Xenophon's team of senators furiously lobbying the government for several months to go against the request for tender, which had no requirement for the use of an Australian shipbuilder.

"In particular, the Commonwealth is not mandating that the successful tenderer uses the workforce of ASC Shipbuilding Pty Ltd currently working on the AWD Program," the request for tender (RFT) reads.

At a Senate hearing into the future of Australia’s shipbuilding industry earlier this year, Lamarre and Austal chief executive David Singleton said the release of the SEA5000 RFT resulted in an abrupt change in both of the company's engagement with all three international contenders.

"Prior to the release of the RFT we, Austal, were heavily involved with all three of the foreign design companies to provide an Australian shipbuilding solution to their offer to the government," Singleton told the hearing.
"When the RFT came out that was really the end of that engagement between us and those companies."

Lamarre echoed these sentiments, adding, "I would say there was a change [in dialogue] after the issue of the RFT, absolutely."

Defence Industry Minister Christopher Pyne also floated the possibility of ASC building the Future Frigates while at the shipyard to unveil a new jobs and scholarships package.

"They [the frigates] will be built by either Fincantieri, BAE or Navantia, they will be the prime in the project and they will use whatever subcontractors that they wish to use, whether it's Austal, or Civmec or ASC and the workforces involved in those businesses, or indeed any new players.

"The idea that there will be anybody other than ASC, Austal or Civmec being used is quite frankly mad."

Officials from the Department of Defence, including Minister Pyne, Deputy Secretary Capability Acquisition and Sustainment Group Kim Gillis and Associate Secretary to the Department of Defence Brendan Sargeant, have previously said any changes to the SEA5000 Future Frigate project at this stage of the tender evaluation process would cause delays to the project by up to two years.

Senator Rex Patrick of the Nick Xenophon Team shot down these suggestions, saying the decision to include ASC, Austal and Civmec in the SEA1180 project "puts a lie to the federal government's claims".

"The final shipbuilding configuration announced... which is different, proves the government can change tack even very late in the piece to give Australian shipbuilders a prime role," said Patrick.
"There is now no excuse for the government to maintain its stubborn course to not allow Austal and ASC to play leading roles with the Future Frigate build.
"If the government doesn't stand up for Australian shipbuilding and create a sovereign capability, it will undermine national security and compromise export markets and, in the process, cost thousands of local jobs and billions of dollars in economic activity."

The nine vessels, to be designed by either BAE Systems, Fincantieri or Navantia, are scheduled to begin construction in Adelaide in 2020. A decision on the successful tenderer is expected by April next year.

The nine new anti-submarine warfare frigates will replace Australia's Anzac frigate fleet.

https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/maritime-antisub/1655-drastic-turnaround-in-future-frigates-program

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Enviado por: tenente em Janeiro 31, 2018, 04:45:04 pm
Australia signs offshore patrol vessel construction contract with Lürssen

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Lürssen photo of its OPV80 design

The Australian government on January 31 announced it signed the patrol vessel construction contract with German shipbuilder Lürssen.

Australian defense industry minster Christopher Pyne said the contract with Lürssen to lead the design and build is worth at least $3 billion for 12 OPVs.

“The vessels will be delivered by Australian workers, in Australian shipyards using Australian steel,” Pyne said. “The project will create around 1000 jobs – 400 direct and a further 600 in the supply chain.”
The OPV project will also help preserve and enhance shipbuilding skills required for the Future Frigates.
The first two OPVs will be built at the Osborne Naval Shipyard in South Australia starting this year and 10 will be constructed at the Henderson Maritime Precinct in Western Australia from 2020.
Lürssen will sub contract ASC to build the first two ships in SA and are in negotiations with Austal and Civmec to build the 10 ships in WA.
Civmec will provide the steel from Australian suppliers for all 12 OPVs.
The new Australian OPVs will be 80 meters in length with a displacement of 1700 tonnes and a draught of 4 meters.
The vessels will be fitted with a 40mm gun for self-protection, three 8.4m sea boats, and command and communication systems. This will allow the OPVs to operate alongside Australian Border Force vessels and other Australian Defence Force units
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The vessels will accommodate up to 60 personnel, including a crew of around 40 navy personnel and have the ability to accept modular mission packs such as unmanned aerial systems.


https://navaltoday.com/2018/01/31/australia-signs-offshore-patrol-vessel-construction-contract-with-lurssen/

O que eles não poupavam, se tivesse sido possivel oferecer a concurso e sido escolhido, o modelo NPO2000, Tuga !!!!!

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Enviado por: Lusitano89 em Fevereiro 20, 2018, 02:40:03 pm
Royal Australian Navy - HMAS Hobart (DDG 39) Guided Missile Destroyer Sea Trials


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Enviado por: tenente em Abril 12, 2018, 08:06:11 am
Another Gottliebsen story from today's Australian

Australia’s patrol boat debacle


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A Lurssen-built offshore patrol vessel. Pic: Lurssen

 ROBERT GOTTLIEBSEN
 Business ColumnistMelbourne
 @BGottliebsen

 It’s now clear that the government has stuffed up the $4 billion patrol boat tender.

 Normally I would not highlight these sort of mistakes but Australia is embarking on one of the largest naval military ship building programs in the world involving an outlay of around $90 billion — a huge sum for a country that is in budget deficit.

On a per vessel basis we are spending substantially above any other country--- some estimates have the per equivalent vessel expenditure at twice world levels.

 And everywhere you look you find that politics have played a role in our naval spending decisions, which boosts the costs and leads to mistakes.

 It is as though Australia’s defence policy has been based on the belief that there will be no war so we can play political games. The world situation now looks like it is too serious for political games.

 And yet there is also an opportunity. We have a once in a lifetime opportunity to build an industrial base around this enormous program.

 That $90 billion expenditure level is almost as big as that of Japan and Korea and larger than the UK, Germany, France, Italy or Spain.

 Australia is looking at building two major ships a year which is a huge number given the size of our infrastructure.

 Japan is building three major ships per year; while the UK, Germany, France and Italy are each building between 1.5 and two ships a year. The US, with its huge military industrial complex and an industrial base 25 times as big as ours, builds eight ships per year.

 We are in the big league and we planned to start with 12 patrol boats, which theoretically would show the world how good we are.

 Instead it has shown how bad we are.

 Three large groups were invited to tender --- two German companies Lürssen and Fassmer and a Dutch company, Damen. They were all surprised to be told that the first two patrol boats had to be built in Adelaide (the defence industry minister’s home state) and the next 10 in Western Australia, where the government could lose large numbers of seats in the next election. Inevitably that boosted the costs substantially. But worse was to come.

 Lürssen was chosen as the winner and in typical German style they had contracted with detailed agreements so that ASC would do the work in Adelaide and Civmec would undertake the work in WA. The whole tender process had taken around two years because design was involved.

 Then, suddenly, 24 to 48 hours before Lürssen was to be announced, Lürssen was told that it had to include the listed Austal group in its WA operation (Austal had been a partner in one of the losing consortiums). The Germans were stunned. How would this work?

 Only in the worst of third world countries would a defence department pull a stunt like that. But everyone remained silent while defence chiefs claimed the process would be easy. Of course that was rubbish.


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Malcolm Turnbull tours Austal’s operations last year with then WA premier Colin Barnett. Pic: Simon Santi/ pool.

 Lürssen partner Civmec had acquired Newcastle shipbuilder Forgacs in 2015 and was constructing a vast facility for shipbuilding at Henderson south of Perth. It needed that patrol boat contract.

 Including another shipbuilder for part of the contract would destroy the economics. But Austal had the ear of government and as WA’s largest shipbuilder if it missed out it would not be good for votes at the next election.

 And so now the defence department has appointed a “mediator” to try and sort out the mess it created. This is really third world. Are we going to keep doing these crazies? If we keep it up we might end up spending $180 billion not $90 billion.

 The most obvious WA solution is that Civmec gets paid its full contracted work but only performs part of it, with the rest constructed by Austal.

 Maybe there is a better way but already the cost of the patrol boats has been inflated by contracting in two cities for political purposes and now there is to be another boost.

 This sort of activity is not just a once-off. We are concentrating a large amount of the $90 billion activity in Adelaide, which involves huge union risks. Shipbuilders around the world spread their activities because they can better tap a variety of skills. And for the frigates we wanted the first steel cut by 2020. (Guess why). If we rush the project we have no chance of establishing an infrastructure and the frigates will be simply IKEA flat pack jobs.

 I could go on and write about submarines but that’s enough. The message is clear.

 But finally, if China establishes an air base in Vanuatu (or Timor?) it will base its new generation fighters there, which are far superior to our JSF disasters.


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The new patrol boats will replace the navy’s Armidale-class vessels.

PS : se tivessem falado com a WS e com a MdG o projecto NPO 2000 sai-lhes muito, mas muito mais barato, mas as LUVAS dos políticos e afins falam mais alto !!!!


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Enviado por: Lusitano89 em Julho 20, 2018, 04:37:31 pm
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Enviado por: tenente em Setembro 10, 2018, 12:07:56 pm
Royal Australian Navy’s third Anzac-class ship arrives in Henderson for AMCAP upgrade

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Photo: BAE Systems

BAE Systems Australia has welcomed the Royal Australian Navy’s third Anzac class warship to its Henderson facility.
As explained, this is part of the navy’s fleet upgrade to keep the ships in service until they are replaced by the Hunter class frigates.

The Mid Life Capability Assurance Program (AMCAP) upgrade is being undertaken at Henderson by the Warship Asset Management Agreement (WAMA) Alliance.

HMAS Anzac’s docking marks a milestone for BAE Systems, where it joins sister ships Perth and Arunta. This will be the first time that three warships have been on the hardstand at the Henderson facility.

HMAS Arunta, the first of class AMCAP ship, most recently had her old mast removed to make way for the installation of a newly developed Air Search Radar System. The new mast is currently being manufactured by BAE Systems and scheduled to be installed at the end of October.

HMAS Arunta will undock before the end of the year after having spent more than 12 months on the hard stand. She will then undertake sea trials ahead of a planned return to service in 2019.
The remaining seven ships will be back in service by 2023

https://navaltoday.com/2018/09/10/royal-australian-navys-third-anzac-class-ship-arrives-in-henderson-for-amcap-upgrade/

Nós também deveriamos ter feito o mesmo ás nossas VdG há uns dez anos atrás, a HMAS tem agora vinte anos !!

Operational history

.....In June 2014, modifications to Arunta as part of the Anti-Ship Missile Defence Project upgrade were completed.[27] Arunta was the second ship of the class to be upgraded, with the installation of a CEAFAR Phased Array Radar and an upgraded SAAB Combat Management System, among other modifications, during an 18-month refit.[27] The ship commenced post-refit sea trials at the end of June[/b



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Arunta_(FFH_151)


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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: NVF em Setembro 10, 2018, 12:54:23 pm
Estes já vão no segundo MLU às suas Meko e nós, com navios bem mais antigos, ainda nem fizemos o primeiro MLU às nossas. Enfim, prioridades...
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Enviado por: tenente em Setembro 10, 2018, 02:01:24 pm
Bancos e, não são de jardim.
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Enviado por: LM em Setembro 10, 2018, 02:19:56 pm
Pessoalmente já considero as nossas Mekos umas patrulhas oceânicas mt bem armadas, passiveis de ser utilizadas em cenários de baixa intensidade  ... vejo apenas das BD como os nossos navios de "1ª linha" (+ os submarinos) e mesmo estas necessitavam de um MLU (radar) mais completo.

Enfim, talvez o plano seja substituir as Meko a médio prazo por 2 fragatas de uma classe "nova" e o facto de não terem MLU ser para pressionar nessa direcção. 
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Enviado por: mafets em Setembro 10, 2018, 02:36:42 pm
Pessoalmente já considero as nossas Mekos umas patrulhas oceânicas mt bem armadas, passiveis de ser utilizadas em cenários de baixa intensidade  ... vejo apenas das BD como os nossos navios de "1ª linha" (+ os submarinos) e mesmo estas necessitavam de um MLU (radar) mais completo.

Enfim, talvez o plano seja substituir as Meko a médio prazo por 2 fragatas de uma classe "nova" e o facto de não terem MLU ser para pressionar nessa direcção.

É exactamente isso que se fala nos corredores das instalações da Marinha (3 por duas). Agora se é viável...  ::) ;)

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Enviado por: tenente em Setembro 10, 2018, 04:42:24 pm
Pessoalmente já considero as nossas Mekos umas patrulhas oceânicas mt bem armadas, passiveis de ser utilizadas em cenários de baixa intensidade  ... vejo apenas das BD como os nossos navios de "1ª linha" (+ os submarinos) e mesmo estas necessitavam de um MLU (radar) mais completo.

Enfim, talvez o plano seja substituir as Meko a médio prazo por 2 fragatas de uma classe "nova" e o facto de não terem MLU ser para pressionar nessa direcção.

É exactamente isso que se fala nos corredores das instalações da Marinha (3 por duas). Agora se é viável...  ::) ;)

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Porra lá vamos ficar só com quatro Fragatas, se cinco quanto a mim já são poucas........
Se tal acontecer e, como estamos muito curtos de guito, cá para mim, daqui a cinco anos, ainda vamos é comprar as duas M Holandesas, até já trazem o upgrade e ainda por cima são navios iguais ás nossas BD.

Tudo leva a crer que é o que vai acontecer, mais, essa opção é a que favorece a aquisição de novas fragatas só lá para os inícios da década de 30, só daqui a uma dúzia de anos se não for mais.........lá continuamos a empurrar a renovação da frota de combate de superfície, com a barriga, é mais do mesmo !!

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Enviado por: P44 em Outubro 04, 2018, 01:32:04 pm
BAE Systems Australia signs Hunter-class work deal

Jon Grevatt - IHS Jane's Defence Industry
04 October 2018

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BAE Systems and the Australian government have signed an Advanced Work Arrangement (AWA) deal in support of the Royal Australian Navy’s project to acquire Hunter-class frigates (pictured here). Source: Royal Australian Navy

The Australian government and BAE Systems have signed an interim contract agreement in support of the programme to build Hunter-class frigates for the Royal Australian Navy (RAN).

BAE Systems Australia said the Advanced Work Arrangement (AWA) agreement - announced on 4 October - will facilitate continuing work in the programme before the signing of a head contract, which is expected later this year.

The AWA covers work on maturing the design of the Hunter-class platform, engineering plans, personnel requirements, and the setting up of infrastructure that will enable prototyping to start in 2020.

In signing the AWA, the two sides also confirmed that negotiations on the head contract are continuing. Talks to enable BAE Systems Australia's acquisition of the ASC Shipbuilding, a division of the state-owned naval shipbuilder ASC Pty Ltd, are also ongoing.

Nigel Stewart, the managing director of BAE Systems Australia's Hunter-class project, said, "This is a very important and early milestone … The AWA demonstrates a commitment by both BAE Systems and the Australian government to ensure timely progress on this critical defence programme."

Australia's Minister for Defence Christopher Pyne added that the AWA is an "important first step" in integrating ASC Shipbuilding into BAE Systems.

"The process of transitioning ASC Shipbuilding into BAE Systems is well under way," said Pyne, "and ASC Shipbuilding, BAE Systems, and the Department of Finance are making good progress in negotiations".

Pyne also confirmed that the head contract will be signed between the government and ASC Shipbuilding, which will become a whollyowned BAE Systems subsidiary on completion of the acquisition talks.

Work on constructing the frigates is scheduled to begin in December 2020 and will commence with building prototypes to demonstrate that the Hunter-class design, shipyard processes, and workforce are ready to commence full-scale production.

https://www.janes.com/article/83557/bae-systems-australia-signs-hunter-class-work-deal
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Enviado por: tenente em Outubro 29, 2018, 10:06:58 am
Royal Australian Navy commissions second AWD destroyer ‘Brisbane’

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Members of the ship's company march on board during HMAS Brisbane's commissioning ceremony held at Garden Island, Sydney. Photo: Royal Australian Navy

The Royal Australian Navy commissioned its second air-warfare destroyer in a ceremony held at the Garden Island Naval Base in Sydney on October 27.
While being the second in her class, HMAS Brisbane (III) is the third Royal Australian Navy ship to bear the name.
Her motto, ‘Aim At Higher Things’, encompasses the navy’s core objectives of being a fighting navy and a thinking navy.

Before an audience of dignitaries, family and friends, the Commander of the Australian Fleet, Rear Admiral Jonathan Mead, AM, RAN, welcomed Brisbane to the fleet.
During the ceremony the Governor-General of Australia, inspected the Brisbane’s crew and HMAS Brisbane received a blessing. The Australian White Ensign was hoisted signifying completion of the commissioning. The crew marched onboard for the first time, where they cheered ship, as a mark of honor.

“My crew and I are honored to continue the name and proud history of Brisbane in the Royal Australian Navy and excited to be given the opportunity to realize the incredible capability she represents,” Brisbane’s commanding officer, Commander Josh Wilson, said.

Brisbane will now undergo her test and evaluation period where she will integrate into the fleet and navy personnel will train to operate the warship.

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The ship’s company of HMAS Brisbane line the upper decks and cheer ship during HMAS Brisbane’s commissioning ceremony held at Garden Island, Sydney.
 
Hobart-class destroyers are built under an AU$9 billion program with ASC as primary shipbuilder and Spanish Navantia as the designer.
The ships are over 140 meters long, have a top speed of more than 28 knots, a range of about 5000 nautical miles and room for more than 200 crew members.
Based on Navantia’s F100 design, the air warfare destroyers are equipped with the Aegis weapon system incorporating the AN/ SPY 1D(V) phased array radar in combination with the SM-2 missile.
The ships will provide an air defense system capable of engaging enemy aircraft and missiles at ranges in excess of 150 kilometers.

https://navaltoday.com/2018/10/29/royal-australian-navy-commissions-second-awd-destroyer-brisbane/

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Enviado por: tenente em Novembro 13, 2018, 10:29:28 pm

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http://www.navalanalyses.com/2018/11/fleets-21-royal-australian-navy-of.html

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Enviado por: tenente em Novembro 15, 2018, 10:08:00 pm
Australia names Sea 1180 patrol vessel as Arafura class
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - Jane's Navy International
15 November 2018
 
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A computer-generated image of the Arafura class, which is being built under Australia’s Sea 1180 Phase 1 programme. Source: Luerssen Australia/ASC
Key Points
•   Australia has marked further progress in its Sea 1180 programme with the naming of its new OPV class and the start of steel welding on the first of class
•   The programme’s first of class is expected to be delivered by 2021

The Royal Australian Navy (RAN) has named the offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) that have been acquired under the country’s Sea 1180 Phase 1 programme as the Arafura class.

The name was revealed on 15 November by the service’s chief, Vice Admiral Michael Noonan. Named after a sea in the northern approach to Australia, the Arafura class has been acquired to replace the RAN’s fleet of Armidale- and Cape-class patrol boats, Huon-class minehunters, and Leeuwin- and Paluma-class survey vessels.

The vessel has a standard displacement of 1,640 tonnes, with an overall length of 80 m, an overall beam of 13 m, and a hull draught of 4 m. It can take a crew complement of 40, with accommodation for up to 60 personnel.

Powered by two 8,500 kW diesel engines, the OPV can attain a maximum speed of 20 kt and a standard range of 4,000 n miles at 12 kt. It has been equipped with a flight deck for unmanned aerial system (UAS) operations, and can carry two 8.5 m and one 10.5 m rigid-hull inflatable boats (RHIBs) for maritime interdiction operations.

Each OPV will be armed with a 40 mm naval gun in the primary position and two 12.7 mm machine guns, while the suite of sensors includes the Scanter 6002 air and surface surveillance radar system from Terma, which will be incorporated with the EOS 500 electro-optical fire-control director.

The vessel will also be equipped with a 9LV-based Situational Awareness System (SAS) from Saab Australia.

https://www.janes.com/article/84615/australia-names-sea-1180-patrol-vessel-as-arafura-class

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Enviado por: Barlovento em Novembro 24, 2018, 12:00:03 pm
Botado en Ferrol el primero de los AOR de Australia.

http://www.infodefensa.com/es/2018/11/23/noticia-navantia-primer-buque-logistico-armada-australiana.html
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Enviado por: Vitor Santos em Fevereiro 11, 2019, 11:18:26 am
Naval Group ganha contrato da Marinha Australiana no valor de US$ 50 bilhões para construção de 12 submarinos

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Foi assinado nesta segunda-feira dia 11, um contrato entre os governos Australiano e Francês, na ordem de US$ 50 bilhões de dólares para a construção de 12 submarinos para a Marinha australiana, o que demonstra as ambições deste país no Pacífico. O primeiro-ministro australiano, Scott Morrison, elogiou um “plano muito ambicioso” em uma cerimônia que aconteceu em Camberra na presença da ministra francesa do Exército, Florence Parly, e lembrou que se tratava do “investimento mais importante da Austrália em matéria de defesa em tempos de paz”.

O Naval Group (ex-DCNS) foi escolhido em 2016 para projetar e construir 12 submarinos para a Marinha australiana, alcançando assim o “contrato do século” após anos de negociações. A empresa Naval Group, além de ser a responsável por projetar e construir os 12 submarinos, ela também irá montar o estaleiro para os submarinos. A construção do primeiro começará em 2020 e deverá de ser entregue em 2030. Críticos lamentaram que o contrato tenha demorado tanto a ser fechado, já que as águas ao norte e a leste da Austrália já sejam palco de uma dura batalha de influência entre Estados Unidos, China e as potências regionais.

Pequim tem pretensões territoriais no Mar da China Meridional, uma zona de navegação vital para o comércio mundial. A Marinha chinesa pretende projetar a influência do país para além dessas águas, especialmente no Pacífico Sul e Oeste, onde a Austrália foi por muito tempo o ator dominante. As ilhas do Pacífico são pequenas e menos vitais para o frete marítimo do que o Mar da China Meridional, mas suas zonas econômicas marítimas abrigam grande parte dos recursos marítimos do mundo.

FONTE: https://www.defesa.tv.br/naval-group-ganha-contrato-da-marinha-australiana-no-valor-de-us-50-bilhoes-para-construcao-de-12-submarinos/?fbclid=IwAR0RC3DxGFXXQiSIBtiJdiCFQ5ZRTJl5L4zZefyjSeAcXBHJVsXmGryX9dM

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(Da Esquerda para Direita) Diretor Presidente do Grupo Naval da Austrália, Sr. John Davis; Diretor Presidente do Grupo Naval, Sr. Herve Guillou; Contra-Almirante Greg Sammut; Secretário Adjunto, Departamento de Defesa, Racheal Kuczma e o diretor executivo do Programa Australiano e presidente do conselho do Naval Group Australia, Jean-Michel Billig, assinam documentos do acordo de parceria estratégica para o programa do Futuro Submarino.

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Ministro da Defesa, Hon Christopher Pyne, (à esquerda), Primeiro Ministro da Austrália, Hon Scott Morrison, (centro), e Ministro das Forças Armadas da França, Srª Florence Parly, assinam o Acordo de Parceria Estratégica para o Futuro Programa Submarino durante uma cerimônia realizada em Russell Offices, Canberra.
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Enviado por: Barlovento em Março 02, 2019, 04:20:13 pm
No entiendo a los australianos, se les hunden los barcos y al mismo tiempo dan premios a Navantia.

https://www.defensa.com/industria/navantia-obtiene-australia-reconocimiento-maximo-equipo
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Enviado por: NVF em Março 02, 2019, 04:58:02 pm
Estão tão satisfeitos com a Navantia que até já se fala em cancelar o contrato dos submarinos franceses e comprar os S-80, que tão bons resultados têm dado.
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Enviado por: tenente em Março 02, 2019, 05:29:21 pm
Estão tão satisfeitos com a Navantia que até já se fala em cancelar o contrato dos submarinos franceses e comprar os S-80, que tão bons resultados têm dado.

Lá vem mais um Karma negativo…... :mrgreen:

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: NVF em Março 03, 2019, 01:30:01 pm
Nã, os nuestros hermanos podem ter mau temperamento mas o que têm a dizer dizem-no à frente de todos.
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Enviado por: tenente em Março 03, 2019, 02:09:47 pm
Nã, os nuestros hermanos podem ter mau temperamento mas o que têm a dizer dizem-no à frente de todos.

Eu também sou desses o que tenho a dizer digo olhos nos olhos e agradeço que façam o mesmo comigo !
Fingimento e cinismo não são a minha praia, é por essas e por outras que sou conhecido por ser refilão, as verdades são inconvenientes para muitos camaradas e colegas de trabalho, mas é assim que eu sou, temos pena !

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 03, 2019, 10:33:54 am
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Australian Navy’s second Supply-class tanker launched in Spain

Spanish shipbuilder Navantia has launched the second of two Royal Australian Navy auxiliary oiler replenishment (AOR) ships at its shipyard in Ferrol, Spain.

Future support tanker HMAS Stalwart was launched on August 31.

The delivery into service of the Supply-class replenishment vessels from next year will provide the navy with vital afloat logistics support to enable other ships to remain at sea longer.

The first ship in the class, future HMAS Supply, was launched in November 2018.

“NUSHIPs Stalwart and Supply will extend our warships’ endurance and operational range by providing bulk fuels, potable water, stores and explosive ordnance to naval vessels operating at sea,” Chief of the Royal Australian Navy, Vice Admiral Michael Noonan, said.

NUSHIPs Stalwart and Supply will replace the current replenishment tankers HMAS Sirius and ex-HMAS Success, which was decommissioned in June this year.

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Future HMAS Stalwart entered the water on August 31, 2019. Photo: Australian defense ministry
 

The 173.9-meter AORs are built under a contract signed in May 2016 and are based on the Spanish Navy’s Cantabria-class AORs. They will be delivered at an estimated cost of AU$640 million.

Displacing 19,500 tons, the ships are intended to carry fuel, dry cargo, water, food, ammunition, equipment and spare parts to provide operational support for the deployed naval or combat forces operating far from the port on the high seas for longer periods.

In addition to replenishment, the vessels can be used to combat against environmental pollution at sea, provide logistics support for the armed forces, and to support humanitarian and disaster relief (HADR) operations following a natural disaster.

https://navaltoday.com/2019/09/02/australian-navys-second-supply-class-tanker-launched-in-spain/
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Enviado por: tenente em Dezembro 31, 2019, 06:15:28 pm
Royal Australian Navy helicopters join bushfire rescues

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Photo: Royal Australian Navy

The Royal Australian Navy’s Fleet Air Arm (FAA) is supporting firefighting efforts on the east coast of Australia, during one of the most dangerous bushfire periods the nation has ever seen.

Helicopters from three squadrons based at HMAS Albatross — MH-60R Seahawk helicopters from 816 Squadron, MRH-90 helicopters from 808 Squadron and EC135 helicopters from 723 Squadron — are all playing roles to support the firefighters and emergency crews on the ground.

Executive Officer 723 Squadron, Lieutenant Commander Gavin Johnston said the squadron delivers a significant capability for rotary wing aircrew training in Australia.

“Taking part in operations such as the firefighting efforts in New South Wales gives our newly qualified crews an opportunity to consolidate the skills and knowledge that they have gained during training,” Lieutenant Commander Johnston said.

During the firefighting deployment, 723 Squadron’s EC135 helicopters reached the key milestone of 10,000 flying hours.
Commanding Officer 723 Squadron, Commander Bruce Willington, said the fleet of 15 EC135 helicopters reached the milestone in only three years.

The first EC135 helicopters joined 723 Squadron in 2016 and have since completed more than 6700 flights, while training the newly formed instructor workforce and delivering an initial rotary qualification to 34 pilots, 11 Aviation Warfare Officers and 33 Aircrew for the Navy and Army.

Meanwhile, Navy’s MH-60R Seahawk helicopters provided advanced technology though their Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) cameras and sensors. Each night, soon after dusk, the aircrew from 816 Squadron were joined by RFS specialists for flights over fire grounds to assess and map current fire movements.

The MH-60R, affectionately known as the Romeo, is the navy’s next-generation submarine hunter and anti-surface warfare helicopter but readily adapts to support a variety of missions including search and rescue, utility and humanitarian aid and disaster relief operations.

Navy’s Fleet Air Arm is regularly called on to provide humanitarian aid and disaster relief in response to bushfires, floods, cyclones or other emergencies.

Apart from helicopters, a fleet of navy ships and aircraft are deployed to rescue Australian nationals currently trapped by bushfires and supply them food, water and medical help.

https://navaltoday.com/2019/12/31/royal-australian-navy-helicopters-join-bushfire-rescues/

Bom Ano de 2020

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: P44 em Janeiro 21, 2020, 02:31:22 pm
Australia – Australia Surface Combatant (ASC) Program
(Source: Defense Security Cooperation Agency; issued Jan 15, 2020)
The US government has approved the sale of a $1.5 billion package to Australia for the upgrade of its three Hobart-class air warfare destroyers (photo) and the first three yet unbuilt Hunter-class next-gen frigates. (RAN photo)
WASHINGTON --- The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Australia of long lead items, engineering development activities, and other defense services to support the Australian Surface Combatant Program for an estimated cost of $1.5 billion. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on yesterday.

The Government of Australia has requested to buy long lead items, engineering development activities, and other defense services to support the Australian Surface Combatant Program, including the modernization of the three Hobart Class Destroyers, and construction of the first three (of nine total) Hunter Class Frigates which includes:

-- three (3) Shipsets of the AEGIS Weapon System (AWS) in the MK 6 Mod 1 configuration to support the Modernization of the Hobart Class DDGs;
-- three (3) Shipsets of the AEGIS Weapon System (AWS) in the MK 6 Mod 1 configuration to support the New Construction of the Hunter Class FFGs;
-- three (3) shipsets of the MK 41 Vertical Launching Systems (VLS) for installation on the Hunter Class Frigates;
-- three (3) shipsets (2 mounts per ship) of the Close-In Weapons System (CIWS) for installation on the Hunter Class Frigates;
-- two (2) Australia AEGIS Weapon System Computer Programs (one for Hobart Class, one for Hunter Class), and associated computer programs for AEGIS Combat System components for installation on both the Hobart and Hunter Class ships;
-- six (6) shipsets of the Global Positioning System (GPS) - Based Positioning, Navigation and Timing Service (GPNTS) Navigation Systems and associated Advanced Digital Antenna Production (ADAP) antennas and support equipment for installation on the Hobart and Hunter Class ships;
-- six (6) shipsets of upgraded Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC) equipment for installation on the Hobart and Hunter Class ships;
-- six (6) shipsets of Command and Control Processor (C2P) equipment for installation on the Hobart and Hunter Class ships; and
-- eight (8) shipsets of Multifunctional Information Distribution System Joint Tactical Radio Set (MIDS JTRS) terminals for installation on the Hobart and Hunter Class ships.

Also included are:
-- three (3) shipsets of MK 34 Gun Weapon System (GWS) modification equipment to include the Electro Optical Sight System and changes supporting Naval Fires Planner and associated TacLink Control System for installation on the Hobart Class Destroyers;
-- three (3) shipsets of MK 34 Gun Weapon System components to include the MK 160 Gun Computing System and the MK 20 Electro Optical Sight System, and the Naval Fires Planner and associated TacLink Control System for installation on the Hunter Class Frigates;
-- three (3) shipsets of: Mode 5/S capable Identification, Friend of Foe (IFF) Systems; Gigabit Ethernet Data Multiplexing System (GEDMS); AN/WSN-7 Ring Laser Gyrocompass Inertial Navigation Systems; WSN-9 Digital Hybrid Speed Log systems; Common Data Link Management System (CDLMS); and Global Command and Control System-Maritime (GCCS-M) systems for installation on the Hunter Class Frigates;
-- six (6) shipsets of AN/SRQ-4 Hawklink and SQQ-89 Sonobuoy processing equipment for installation on the Hobart and Hunter Class ships;
-- defense services for development and integration of a capability upgrade for the installed AEGIS Combat System on the Hobart Class Destroyer, including Integrated Air and Missile Defense capability and growth capability for Ballistic Missile Defense;
-- development, integration and testing support for installation of a AEGIS Combat System for installation on the Hunter Class FFG, a Global Combat Ship Type 26 (BAE) platform, including the integration of the indigenous CEAFAR 2 Phased Array Radar (CEA Industries) with the AEGIS Combat System (including Cooperative Engagement Capability) and the primary radar sensor and illuminator;
-- integration of selected Australian provided combat system components including Undersea Warfare and Ship Self Defense for installation on the Hobart and Hunter Class ships;
-- integration of the MH-60R helicopter into the AEGIS Combat System for installation on the Hobart and Hunter Class ships;
-- Procurement and delivery of installation support material, special purpose test equipment, initial logistics outfitting, spares and other ancillary equipment to support the installation and integration of AEGIS Combat System equipment in the Hunter and Hobart class ship platforms; and
development of technical documentation to support both programs; provision of logistics and other support services to support the Hobart and Hunter Class ships; procurement, staging, delivery and installation support for AEGIS Combat System equipment for the Hobart and Hunter Class ships; provision of training support for curriculum development, training tool development, front-end analysis, and crew training for the Hobart and Hunter Class ships; U.S. Government and contractor representative engineering, logistics, and technical support services; and other related elements of logistics and program support for the Hobart and Hunter Class ships.

The total estimated cost is $1.50 billion.

This proposed sale will support the foreign policy and national security objectives of the United States. Australia is one of our most important allies in the Western Pacific. The strategic location of this political and economic power contributes significantly to ensuring peace and economic stability in the region.

The proposed sale will enhance Australia's Surface Combatant capability by modernizing their existing three AEGIS capable Hobart Class Destroyers with the latest technology and capability, and delivering the first three (of nine) AEGIS capable Hunter Class Future Frigates. This sale enhances Australia's self-defense capability, while significantly improving interoperability with U.S. Navy AEGIS combatants in the region. By deploying a surface combatant fleet that will incorporate Cooperative Engagement Capability (CEC), Australia will significantly improve network-centric warfare capability for US forces operating in the region. Australia will have no difficulty absorbing this equipment into its armed forces.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.

There are a significant number of companies under contract with the U.S. Navy that will provide components and systems as well as engineering services during the execution of this effort, with a significant portion of the effort to be performed by Lockheed Martin, Rotary and Mission Systems, Moorestown, NJ. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.

Implementation of this proposed sale will require travel of U.S. Government and/or contractor representatives to Australia on a temporary basis for program support and management oversight. No extended (long-term) visits to Australia will be required as part of this effort.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law and does not mean the sale has been concluded.

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https://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/209052/us-approves-%241.5bn-warship-upgrade-package-for-australian-navy.html
Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Fevereiro 01, 2020, 09:47:50 am
Australian sailors aboard HMAS Parramatta use 3D printing for repairs

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Royal Australian Navy sailor Petty Officer Electronics Technician Nathan Little with a sound powered communications adaptor that was 3D printed on board HMAS Parramatta. Credit: LSIS Ronnie Baltoft.

 The Royal Australian Navy sailors aboard HMAS Parramatta have used 3D printing to support the fleet when deployed, using the new technology to replace key components.

 The Innovation Unit of HMAS Parramatta demonstrated its capability during the recent East Asia Deployment of the ship using 3D printing.

 Royal Australian Navy sailor Petty Officer Electronics Technician Nathan Little said that significant innovations have already improved capability onboard HMAS Parramatta.

 Little said: “Our 3D printing workshop was very successful during our deployment, producing three practical and real-world solutions and returning capability back to our command.

“We worked closely with other areas of the ship to identify issues and find real-world solutions. We were able to replicate faulty parts and return full functionality, which is a great success for the team.”

Innovation Unit’s ideas can become the new standards and can be used across platforms in the future.

 Leading Seaman Electronic Technician Duncan O’Brien, who was awarded a Commanding Officer’s Commendation for his initiative in developing his skillset, said: “What’s even better is that my new skills now directly benefit my ship and the whole team on board.

“I am looking forward to creating more positive impact and results.”

Last October, the Royal Australian Navy announced the deployment of the Anzac-class frigate HMAS Parramatta to support the international coalition in the enforcement of sanctions against North Korea. HMAS Parramatta will be part of a broader East Asian deployment to ensure regional security and stability on the Korean Peninsula.   

http://www.thefifthcolumn.xyz/Forum/viewthread.php?tid=263&page=33

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Março 30, 2020, 03:20:58 pm
Australia begins construction of third Arafura-class OPV

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The Australian Department of Defence (DoD) announced on 27 March that construction work had begun on the third of 12 Arafura-class offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) on order for the Royal Australian Navy (RAN).

Unlike the first two ships of the class, which are being built at the Osborne Naval Shipyard in South Australia by Lürssen Australia and government-owned ASC, the vessel is the first of the remaining ten ships of the class set to be built at the Civmec shipyard in Henderson, Western Australia.

"Today's [27 March] milestone reinforces the OPV programme is on schedule to deliver the capability for the Royal Australian Navy when the first ship commences service in 2022," Australian Defence Minister Linda Reynolds was quoted as saying.

The ship is part of an AUD3.6 billion (USD2.5 billion) contract for the OPVs signed in late January 2018 with German shipbuilder Lürssen under Australia's Sea 1180 Phase 1 programme.
Lürssen's subsidiary, Lürssen Australia, is the prime contractor working with shipbuilding partners Civmec and ASC.

Construction of the first vessel, Arafura , began in November 2018, while work on the second started in June 2019.

The new OPVs, which are based on the PV80 design, are set to replace the RAN's fleet of Armidale- and Cape-class patrol boats, and also take on some of the duties associated with the Huon-class minehunters as well as Leeuwin- and Paluma-class survey vessels.

For instance, the RAN has pointed out that the OPV's design "will support specialist mission packages, such as a maritime tactical unmanned aerial system, and into the future, rapid environmental assessment and deployable mine counter measure capabilities".

The class has a standard displacement of 1,640 tonnes, an overall length of 80 m, an overall beam of 13 m, and a hull draught of 4 m.

https://www.janes.com/article/95165/australia-begins-construction-of-third-arafura-class-opv

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: LM em Março 30, 2020, 04:18:55 pm
Usd 200 / cada um...?
Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: NVF em Abril 11, 2020, 10:27:43 am
Mais uma vez, queria salientar que os orçamentos de aquisição de equipamento militar em países como a Austrália e o Canadá englobam o custo do programa ao longo da sua vida. Como estes países, normalmente, optam pela construção local, o custo da construção em si é mais elevado que o habitual, mas não é o que parece.

Mais uma vez, volto a dar os exemplos dos 12 Barracuda australianos (31,7 mil milhões de USD), das 09 Type 26 australianos (22,2 mil milhões de USD) e das 15 Type 26 canadianos (43 mil milhões de USD) -- todos os valores à cotação de hoje. Estes valores incluem, construção, manutenção, MLU's e armamento ao longo da vida do equipamento (tipicamente 30 anos). A não ser assim, os Barracuda convencionais australianos ficariam mais caros que os Barracuda nucleares franceses, ou as Type 26 ficariam mais caras que os AB Flight III, o que seria um absurdo.
Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: P44 em Maio 04, 2020, 09:59:57 am
https://www.janes.com/article/95890/austal-awarded-contract-to-build-six-cape-class-patrol-boats-for-australian-navy

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Maio 07, 2020, 04:51:24 pm
Two mega-blocks of Australia’s 1st Arafura-class OPV joined together

The Royal Australian Navy’s offshore patrol vessel (OPV) program has reached another milestone with the two halves of the first Arafura class OPV coming together to form a complete hull.

The milestone comes a year after the keel for the lead ship in the class was laid in Adelaide.

Built by Luerssen Australia and its South Australian partner ASC, it marks the largest industrial manoeuvre at Osborne Naval Shipyard in South Australia.

Minister for Defence, Senator the Hon Linda Reynolds CSC said the Australian Naval Infrastructure (ANI) operations team manoeuvred the two mega-blocks of the ship together, weighing 1,000 tonnes in total, with only millimetres between them.
“It is a source of great pride to see a unified purpose among industry partners Luerssen, ASC and ANI, with defence industry continuing to show resilience to deliver during these challenging times,” Minister Reynolds said.

The first of the OPVs, Arafura, is planned to enter service from the early 2020s and will conduct border protection and maritime patrol missions alongside other Australian and regional partners.

“It is great to see new investments and innovations made as part of this program, with ANI undertaking significant expansion and modernisation of the Osborne Naval Shipyard,” Minister for Defence Industry, the Hon Melissa Price MP, commented.
“The OPV program is delivering benefits across Australia, with the first two vessels under construction at Osborne in South Australia and the remaining 10 vessels to be built at Henderson in Western Australia.”

The program of 12 vessels will replace and improve upon the capability delivered by the Armidale class and Cape class patrol boats.
Check out how the two halves of Arafura were brought together and welded to form a single structure in the video below:


https://navaltoday.com/2020/05/07/video-two-mega-blocks-of-australias-1st-arafura-class-opv-joined-together/

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: Kalil em Maio 15, 2020, 10:32:29 pm
Mais uma vez, queria salientar que os orçamentos de aquisição de equipamento militar em países como a Austrália e o Canadá englobam o custo do programa ao longo da sua vida. Como estes países, normalmente, optam pela construção local, o custo da construção em si é mais elevado que o habitual, mas não é o que parece.

Mais uma vez, volto a dar os exemplos dos 12 Barracuda australianos (31,7 mil milhões de USD), das 09 Type 26 australianos (22,2 mil milhões de USD) e das 15 Type 26 canadianos (43 mil milhões de USD) -- todos os valores à cotação de hoje. Estes valores incluem, construção, manutenção, MLU's e armamento ao longo da vida do equipamento (tipicamente 30 anos). A não ser assim, os Barracuda convencionais australianos ficariam mais caros que os Barracuda nucleares franceses, ou as Type 26 ficariam mais caras que os AB Flight III, o que seria um absurdo.

Na Europa a estratégia é exatamente a oposta.

Os Barracuda franceses estão inscritos na lei do orçamento com um custo unitário de 1350 milhões euros, uma pechincha, portanto. Todos os custos inerentes ao desenvolvimento do projecto são financiados à parte. Imagino que assim seja mais fácil aprovar orçamentos.

As FREMM tinham, em 2016, um custo de 670 M cada uma. Média das duas versões em conjunto.

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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: Stalker79 em Maio 16, 2020, 01:54:38 am
Se assim que os OPV´s novos estiverem prontos eles quiserem vender as Armidale não eram má compra....
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Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: NVF em Maio 19, 2020, 05:50:12 am
A heresia! Como é possível tal promiscuidade? Só mesmo em países de segunda categoria e com poucos recursos.

https://news.navy.gov.au/en/May2020/Fleet/5859/From-Fleet-beat-to-Joint-Police.htm#.XsNjZy-cbow (https://news.navy.gov.au/en/May2020/Fleet/5859/From-Fleet-beat-to-Joint-Police.htm#.XsNjZy-cbow)

From Fleet beat to Joint Police

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Joint Military Police Station Sydney at Randwick Barracks - staffed by Navy, Army and Air Force members - is a clear example of a tri-service approach achieving the best collective outcome as part of the Joint Military Police Force.

The Joint Military Police Force (JMPF) is the primary contact for all Defence policing matters, providing general duties policing and investigative capability to the ADF.

Officer Commanding Joint Military Police Station Sydney, Lieutenant Commander Sean West Money, said integrating the three services into one unit had come at a challenging time, but his team had embraced opportunities to carry out joint military policing work.

“The biggest challenge has been taking responsibility for one of the busiest and largest ‘patches’ to police, with a force only established in January and, from the outset, supporting Operation BUSHFIRE ASSIST,” Lieutenant Commander West Money said.

“This has also meant the JMPF has been provided real opportunities to do the job that we signed up to do, and in return, our people have shown commitment which has enabled us to succeed and demonstrate immense value to Defence.”

As an Officer Commanding a tri-service unit, Lieutenant Commander West Money has sought to value the distinctions between and cultures of Navy, Army and Air Force.

“My second in command is an Army Captain who is getting an education in Navy-speak and she is teaching me about Battalions, Brigades and Divisions, while our Air Force Team Leaders at RAAF Richmond and RAAF Williamtown are teaching me Airside awareness.

“We are all learning from each other to get the best bits of how to carry out policing in the ADF,” Lieutenant Commander West Money said.

Petty Officer Naval Police Coxswain Jean Metcalf is one of the team at JMPS Sydney and has embraced the new tri-service work environment.

“At the start of the year, I was called out to assist with the Batemans Bay area bushfire assistance recovery, and I worked with three exceptional Army MPs,” Petty Officer Metcalf said.

“We were tasked with running the Command Bus for New South Wales Police to allow them to better serve the public and during this period I was able to learn how Army Military Police work on domestic activities.”

“Being part of the JMPU means I am able to further enhance my policing skills within Defence as we collectively move closer to align with state police forces.”

Naval Police Coxswain, Leading Seaman Kellie Nash has enjoyed the atmosphere of mutual learning that comes with policing alongside other services.

“I believe exposure to different services is instrumental to our development. It is always good to have an understanding of how Army and Air Force operate, so Navy can improve and streamline our procedures,” Leading Seaman Nash said.

“Integrating Army and Air Force practices and attitudes can prompt us to re-think how we do things, which I don’t think is a terrible thing.

“For example, Army have perfected a style of leadership which sees officers putting the team first in all things. Their officers eat, sleep and go home last; I really respect that,” she said.

While they are no longer part of the Command Naval Police Coxswain team at HMAS Kuttabul and have their own remit, the Navy members at JMPS Sydney share a good relationship with their Fleet-focussed counterparts.

“One of the larger changes for Navy has been adjusting to the differences between how the JMPF and Command Naval Police Coxswains operate, but ultimately it’s about being problem solvers and ensuring the safety of Defence members rather than arrests,” Lieutenant Commander West Money said.

“Whether they are posted to a Navy ship or establishment in a Naval Police role, or in a Military Police role in the JMPF, our people are all sailors wanting to protect and serve their peers.”

Imagery is available on the Navy Image Gallery: https://images.navy.gov.au/S20201679 (https://images.navy.gov.au/S20201679).

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Naval Police Coxwains (NPC) outside the Military Police Station at Randwick Baracks, Sydney. From left: LCDR Sean West Money, Leading Seaman (LS) NPC James Downey, LSNPC Kellie Nash and Petty Officer NPC Jean Metcalf.

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Naval Police Coxwains (NPC) outside the Military Police Station at Randwick Baracks, Sydney. From left: Petty Officer NPC Jean Metcalf, Leading Seaman (LS) NPC James Downey, LSNPC Kellie Nash and LCDR Sean West Money.
Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: P44 em Maio 19, 2020, 10:06:35 am
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HMAS Sydney off the NSW coast during her commissioning ceremony. RAN picture.

Final Air Warfare Destroyer ‘HMAS Sydney’ Commissioned In The Royal Australian Navy

The Royal Australian Navy has welcomed its final Hobart-class Air Warfare Destroyer, HMAS Sydney, in its fleet. The commissioning ceremony was conducted at sea, off the coast of New South Wales on Monday, on 18 May 2020.
Xavier Vavasseur  19 May 2020

Chief of Navy, Vice Admiral Michael Noonan, and Commander of the Australian Fleet, Rear Admiral Jonathan Mead, were aboard the guided missile destroyer, to officially welcome Sydney into service.

Vice Admiral Noonan told the commissioning crew that Sydney’s history was of a legendary pedigree:

“You will all form part of the HMAS Sydney fabric. You are sailors and officers who will all continue the proud Sydney legacy. It is a great responsibility – one I know each and every one of you is capable of honouring and carrying forward into the future. HMAS Sydney, welcome home, welcome back to our Fleet. Your name once again takes pride and its rightful place in Her Majesty’s Fleet,”


Vice Admiral Noonan
During the ceremony the ship received a blessing and Sydney’s Commanding Officer, Commander Edward Seymour, read the ship’s commissioning order before the Australian White Ensign was hoisted, signifying completion of the commissioning.

“It isn’t often in a naval career that you are part of commissioning a brand new warship, but to do so at sea and carrying the significant legacy behind the name Sydney, is a special feeling for the entire ship’s company. A lot of hard teamwork has led us to this moment of bringing a world-class warship into the fleet and we’re eager to now prove what Sydney can do. She brings an outstanding, Australian-built air warfare capability over an exceptional range and gives Navy a surface combat capability like never before.”


Sydney’s Commanding Officer, Commander Edward Seymour
Sydney is the last of three Hobart-class destroyers built for the Royal Australian Navy at Osborne in South Australia and is based on the Navantia F100 frigate design.

About the future HMAS Sydney

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The future HMAS Sydney, third and final Hobart-class destroyer of the RAN.
HMAS Sydney (V) is the final of three ships of the Hobart class guided missile destroyers. Her sister ships will be HMAS Hobart (III) and HMAS Brisbane (III). The keel of Sydney was laid down on 19 November 2015 and launched on 19 May 2018 in Osborne, South Australia.

The Hobart-class is based on the Navantia designed F100 frigate and is coupled it with the Aegis Combat System. All three destroyers of the class were constructed in Australia by the Air Warfare Destroyer Alliance.

Sydney provides air defence for accompanying ships in addition to land forces and infrastructure in coastal areas, and for self-protection against missiles and aircraft. The Aegis Combat System incorporating the state-of-the-art phased array radar, AN/SPY 1D(V), in combination with the SM-2 missile, provides an advanced air defence system capable of engaging enemy aircraft and missiles at ranges in excess of 150km.

Sydney carries a MH-60R helicopter for surveillance and response to support key warfare areas. The surface warfare function includes long range anti-ship missiles and a naval gun capable of firing extended range munitions in support of land forces.

Sydney can also conduct undersea warfare and is equipped with modern sonar systems, decoys, surface-launched torpedoes and an array of effective close-in defensive weapons.

These capabilities ensure that the Hobart-class guided missile destroyers have the layered defensive and offensive capability required to counter conventional and asymmetric threats.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/05/final-air-warfare-destroyer-hmas-sydney-commissioned-in-the-royal-australian-navy/
Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: tenente em Maio 22, 2020, 11:09:35 am
Royal Australian Navy’s final AWD destroyer commissioned at sea

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Photo: Royal Australian Navy
The Royal Australian Navy (RAN) has welcomed HMAS Sydney, its third and final Hobart-class air warfare destroyer, into the fleet in the first commissioning of an Australian warship at sea since the Second World War.

The ceremony, conducted off the coast of New South Wales on 18 May 2020, marked the moment the 147-metre long AWD HMAS Sydney (V) became one of Her Majesty’s Australian Ships.
In addition, the commissioning marked a significant milestone in the Australian government’s AU$90 billion Naval Shipbuilding Plan.


“The commissioning of the final Hobart class destroyer not only marks the beginning of a new era for the navy but also demonstrates the success of this government’s Australian Naval Shipbuilding Plan,” Minister for Defence, Senator the Hon Linda Reynolds, said.

“The navy is now equipped with a new level of flexibility and lethality to protect maritime task groups operating in an increasingly complex region, while also allowing us to work even closer with our allies.”

Chief of Navy, Vice Admiral Michael Noonan, AO, RAN, said as the fifth warship to bear this name, the newbuild inherits an important legacy.
“Sydney was technically upgraded during her build to integrate the MH-60R ‘Romeo’ Seahawk submarine-hunting helicopter and her Close-in Weapons Systems, making her Australia’s most lethal ship,” Vice Admiral Noonan said.

“She is designed to protect task groups by providing air defence to accompanying ships, in addition to land forces and infrastructure in coastal areas, and self-protection against missiles and aircraft.”
During the ceremony the ship received a blessing and Sydney’s Commanding Officer, Commander Edward Seymour, read the ship’s commissioning order before the Australian White Ensign was hoisted, signifying completion of the commissioning.

Sydney is the last of three Hobart-class vessels built for the navy at Osborne in South Australia and is based on the Navantia F100 frigate design. She is equipped with advanced combat systems, providing the ship with layered offensive and defensive capabilities to counter conventional and asymmetric threats.

Sydney will now undergo her test and evaluation period where she will integrate into the fleet and navy personnel will develop their proficiencies with her Aegis combat system.
Sydney’s sister ships, Hobart and Brisbane, were commissioned in 2017 and 2018 respectively and all three vessels are homeported at Fleet Base East in Sydney.

The first Royal Australian Navy vessel to be commissioned at sea was HMAS Matafele. The World War II stores carrier was commissioned on 1 January 1943.

https://navaltoday.com/2020/05/22/royal-australian-navys-final-awd-destroyer-commissioned-at-sea/

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Enviado por: ocastilho em Maio 22, 2020, 11:47:45 am
A heresia! Como é possível tal promiscuidade? Só mesmo em países de segunda categoria e com poucos recursos.

https://news.navy.gov.au/en/May2020/Fleet/5859/From-Fleet-beat-to-Joint-Police.htm#.XsNjZy-cbow (https://news.navy.gov.au/en/May2020/Fleet/5859/From-Fleet-beat-to-Joint-Police.htm#.XsNjZy-cbow)

De selvagens poderia esperar-se outra coisa?  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Enviado por: P44 em Junho 09, 2020, 08:03:23 am
https://news.navy.gov.au/en/Jun2020/Fleet/5886#.Xt80D_nOV7k
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Enviado por: tenente em Junho 09, 2020, 05:29:12 pm
https://news.navy.gov.au/en/Jun2020/Fleet/5886#.Xt80D_nOV7k

uma excelente opção de navios em 2ª Mão, para substituir as nossas VdG, mas só se chegassem até 2026/7, o que eu não acredito, porque, depois da RAN estar agora a efectuar estes upgrades ás ANZAC, claro que as vai manter ao serviço, e por mais de uma década.

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Enviado por: P44 em Junho 11, 2020, 05:48:17 pm
11 JUNE 2020 00:00 GMT+0

Mid-life upgrade completed for second RAN Anzac-class frigate
by Julian Kerr

The second of eight Royal Australian Navy (RAN) Anzac-class frigates has completed an extensive mid-life capability assurance programme featuring numerous upgrades, including the installation of a second-generation CEAFAR2-L active phased-array air search radar.

Work on HMAS Anzac began at the BAE Systems Australia facility in Henderson, Western Australia in September 2018 and was completed in May 2020. Several weeks of sea trials were set to start on 11 June followed by handover to the RAN.

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HMAS Anzac (seen here post upgrade) is the second of eight RAN frigates of the class to have completed the AMCAP programme. (BAE Systems Australia )

Work on the third-of-class, HMAS Warramunga , began in September 2019 and is expected to be completed in September 2020. The programme for all eight ships is scheduled for completion early in 2024.

The Anzac Midlife Capability Assurance Program (AMCAP) forms the major work element within an AUD2 billion (USD1.38 billion) Warship Asset Management Agreement signed in April 2016.

Under the eight-year programme BAE Systems Australia, Saab Australia, Naval Ship Management, and the Australian government jointly support the 3,600-tonne Anzac-class frigates until their replacement in the 2030s - under Project Sea 5000 by nine Hunter-class Future Frigates based on BAE Systems’ Type 26 Global Combat Ship.

The AMCAP scope of work includes the replacement under Project Sea 1448 4B of the ageing Raytheon SPS-49(V)8 ANZ long-range air search radar with the CEAFAR2-L.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/mid-life-upgrade-completed-for-second-ran-anzac-class-frigate
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Enviado por: Kalil em Junho 11, 2020, 09:59:19 pm
A última previsão é começar a dar baixa das Anzac a partir de 2029/30 e até 2042/43, ao ritmo de uma a cada 2 anos, que é o mesmo que está previsto para a entrada das Hunter ao serviço.

São bons navios e ajustados à nossa dimensão/necessidade, mas o calendário não é compatível com a nossa urgência.

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2019/04/01/australias_transition_to_the_hunter-class_frigate_114299.html (https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2019/04/01/australias_transition_to_the_hunter-class_frigate_114299.html)

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Enviado por: dc em Junho 13, 2020, 12:15:43 pm
https://news.navy.gov.au/en/Jun2020/Fleet/5886#.Xt80D_nOV7k

uma excelente opção de navios em 2ª Mão, para substituir as nossas VdG, mas só se chegassem até 2026/7, o que eu não acredito, porque, depois da RAN estar agora a efectuar estes upgrades ás ANZAC, claro que as vai manter ao serviço, e por mais de uma década.

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Eles não colocariam à venda navios apenas 5/6 anos depois de receberem um upgrade a sério (ao contrário do MLU planeado para as nossas).
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Enviado por: P44 em Junho 14, 2020, 09:28:10 am
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Steel contract signed for Australia’s new Hunter-class frigates
VESSELS
June 9, 2020, by Naida Hakirevic
BAE Systems Australia’s shipbuilding business, ASC Shipbuilding, has signed a contract with Australian company BlueScope Steel AIS for the prototyping phase of the Hunter-class frigate program, due to start at the end of this year.

Under the AU$2.6 million contract, BlueScope Steel AIS will deliver more than 1,500 tonnes of steel plate to ASC Shipbuilding.

As explained, this is the first of a number of contracts ASC Shipbuilding will award to Australian businesses in the lead up to the Hunter program’s prototyping phase and realises the company’s commitment to use Australian steel for the $35 billion Hunter-class frigate program.

During prototyping, five representative ship ‘blocks’ will be built at the world-class Osborne Naval Shipyard in South Australia.

During this phase, the processes, systems, tools, facilities and workforce competencies will be extensively tested and refined before construction commences on the first frigate in 2022.

“Today’s (June 5) contract signing is the first of many contracts that we will award to Australian businesses in coming months, as we count down to prototyping cut steel in December,” Craig Lockhart, ASC Shipbuilding Managing Director, commented.

“The Hunter program is about more than just building warships; it is about building an enduring and uniquely Australian sovereign industrial capability that will support Australia’s continuous naval shipbuilding strategy for generations to come.”

“This contract is an important first step in potentially supplying steel into the build phase of the nine submarine hunting warships,” John Nowlan, BlueScope Chief Executive, Australian Steel Products, said.

ASC Shipbuilding will design and build nine Hunter Class ships, which are expected to be among the world’s most advanced anti-submarine warfare frigates, for the Royal Australian Navy.

https://www.navaltoday.com/2020/06/09/steel-contract-signed-for-australias-new-hunter-class-frigates/
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Enviado por: P44 em Junho 24, 2020, 10:08:20 am
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From left, HMA Ships Canberra, Choules and Adelaide sail in formation during Force Integration Training off the east coast of Australia. © Commonwealth of Australia, Department of Defence

Royal Australian Navy’s Entire Amphibious Force Operating Together For The First Time

In a first, all three amphibious vessels of the Royal Australian Navy (RAN), HMAS Canberra, HMAS Choules and HMAS Adelaide, sailed together in formation.
Xavier Vavasseur  23 Jun 2020

This was the first time that the two LHDs and the single LSD of the RAN have operated together at sea. The event occured during a Force Integration Training off the east coast of Australia. The Australian Defence Force is conducting maritime task group training off Australia’s east coast and northern waters ahead of resuming major activities in the second half of the year.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/06/royal-australian-navys-entire-amphibious-force-operating-together-for-the-first-time/
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Enviado por: mafets em Julho 01, 2020, 02:38:34 pm
Fonix... Um milagre ter escapado toda a gente...  :o

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On july 22nd.1969 HMAS Brisbane II (41) suffered an exploding shell in her fwd 5 inch gun. Only one injury, LS Benfield was returned to Australia, and Brisbane was removed from the gunline in Vietnam to have her gun turret replaced in Subic Bay.

Fonte: Destroyers and Frigates

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Enviado por: P44 em Julho 04, 2020, 12:02:14 pm
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Enviado por: NVF em Julho 07, 2020, 02:46:51 am
Mais uns que se vão desfazer dos NH90 mas, pelo menos, vão ficar em casa. Parece que, por estes lados, transferir equipamento entre Ramos é um problema de fácil resolução.

Navy to get new utility helicopter

https://adbr.com.au/navy-to-get-new-utility-helicopter/ (https://adbr.com.au/navy-to-get-new-utility-helicopter/)

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The Royal Australian Navy’s 808SQN based at HMAS Albatross near Nowra will soon replace its Airbus MRH 90 helicopters with a new utility helicopter.

As forecast in the Government’s 2020 Force Structure Plan and accompanying Defence Strategic Update released on July 1, the new utility helicopter will be acquired in the 2025 timeframe, although this may need to be brought forward in order to maximise commonality with existing capabilities.

The Force Structure Plan offers little detail, saying only that the RAN will, ‘Expand and rationalise the support and logistics helicopter fleet consistent with the expectations for larger naval operations.’ An accompanying timeline chart shows a project for a ‘Logistics Helicopter’ running from 2025 to 2031, and is valued at $1bn to $1.5bn.

ADBR understands the new capability will replace the small fleet of six MRH 90s taken on by Navy to replace its Westland Sea King Mk50/A in 2011 under Project AIR 9000 Phase 6. Industry sources claim the small fleet of MRH 90 helicopters – despite being identical to the 41 machines operated by the Australian Army – is difficult to sustain, especially when embarked at sea, and that these machines will be absorbed by Army.

After suffering multiple delays with its own AIR 9000 Phases 2/4 project milestones since the MRH 90 was introduced in 2006, Army has had improved sustainment success with and availability of its MRH 90s in recent years due to having a greater mass of machines and a joint industry and uniformed maintenance team in Townsville, north Queensland.

But none of the 47 MRH 90s in Army and Navy service are marinised, so sustained operations as sea from the RAN’s Canberra class LHDs and other vessels require an inordinate amount of preventative maintenance and washing after each flight to mitigate corrosion.

Instead, sources tell ADBR that the RAN is instead considering a new helicopter type with greater commonality to its Sikorsky MH-60R ‘Romeo’ Seahawk combat helicopter, of which it has 24 in service. This really leaves just two possibilities – the MH-60S ‘Sierra’ Nighthawk, or additional MH-60Rs.

On paper, the MH-60S makes more sense from a utility point of view, as it has a larger cab based on the Black Hawk airframe with double doors on both sides of the cab, seating for up to 12 passengers, and more internal space for cargo. The MH-60S also shares its cockpit, engines, and dynamic components with the MH-60R, and crews can be dual-qualified.

The MH-60S can also perform combat search & rescue, mine-countermeasures, can employ Hellfire and APKWS air-to-surface missiles, and can conduct special forces combat support missions.

But with the US Navy having fulfilled its requirement for 275 aircraft and another eight aircraft for Thailand by 2016, the MH-60S is no longer in production, and it is unclear if production could be restarted on the existing line.

The missionised MH-60R has a much smaller cab than the Sierra, with space for just a couple of seats. The dipping sonar, sonar buoy tubes, and sensor operator station can be removed to increase cargo and seating area, but this is a time-consuming and difficult task to perform at sea. Despite carrying all of the above equipment, RAN Romeos currently conduct logistics operations when embarked using an external cargo hook.

And while the US Navy has fulfilled its requirement for 291 MH-60Rs and has completed orders for South Korea and Denmark, the aircraft remains in low-rate production for orders from India and Saudi Arabia.

With the RAN’s surface combatant fleet scheduled to grow over the next two decades as the Arafura class OPVs are introduced and the Hunter class frigates begin to enter service, it is likely more than 24 combat helicopters will be required to fulfill the RAN’s combat helicopter and associated training requirement.

For its fleet of 24 Romeos, the RAN bases its current rate of effort on eight 816SQN aircraft being embarked at sea at any one time, eight being used for training with 725SQN, and eight in maintenance or being prepared for deployment.

The Romeo and Sierra are built by Lockheed Martin subsidiary Sikorsky at Hartford in Connecticut, and are then flown to Owego in neighbouring New York state for the integration of their mission and combat systems.

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Two 808SQN MRH 90s at HMAS Albatross, Nowra. (ADF)

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While outwardly similar, this side-by-side comparison of a US Navy MH-60S (above) and RAN MH-60R (below) clearly shows the longer cab and double doors of the Sierra. (USN & ADF)
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Enviado por: NVF em Agosto 08, 2020, 10:10:35 am
Classe Hobart

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Reportedly Defence could not get these ships put under one of the Class Societies due to issues with longitudinal strength. This has also meant there is no TH118 which certifies structure and seaworthyness. Can they not be fitted with additional keel and sheerstrake doublers to address these, similar to the progressive increases in displacement of the FFGs? Light scantlings are reportedly also in the LHDs which require additional consideration for drydocking. Is this a Navantia-wide issue, and what about the new replenishment ships?
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Enviado por: Get_It em Agosto 13, 2020, 04:38:57 pm
Provas de mar do novo AOR construído pela Navantia para a marinha Australiana.


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Keel laid for Australian Navy’s third Arafura-class OPV

The Australian government’s National Shipbuilding Program has reached another milestone with the keel laying for the first offshore patrol vessel (OPV) under construction in Western Australia or the third new Arafura-class OPV.

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Arafura-class OPV design. Photo by Luerssen
“This milestone marks the start of the consolidation phase for the third Arafura class ship to be built in Australia, named Pilbara by the Chief of Navy,” Minister for Defence, Linda Reynolds, said.

“It demonstrates the success of this Government’s Naval Shipbuilding plan, with eight vessels already built and another 10 vessels currently under construction at Henderson and Osborne”

“Since construction commenced ahead of schedule in March, the Luerssen and Civmec teams in WA have continued to make significant progress on building the blocks that, when complete, will form a 1,600 tonne 80 metre long OPV.”

“I am very pleased that Luerssen and Civmec have been able to reach this milestone in such a timely manner, and I have no doubt that is due in part to the practices they put in place to deal with COVID-19,” Minister for Defence Industry Melissa Price, said.

The OPVs are based on the Lürssen PV80 design.

The first two vessels are under construction at the Osborne Naval Shipyard in South Australia and will be followed by ten ships to be built at the Henderson shipyard.

https://www.navaltoday.com/2020/09/11/keel-laid-for-australian-navys-third-arafura-class-opv/

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Enviado por: P44 em Outubro 13, 2020, 11:03:24 am
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21 OCTOBER 2020

Australia, UK sign frigate agreement


by Jon Grevatt

Australia and the United Kingdom have signed an agreement to collaborate on BAE Systems’ AUD35 billion (USD25 billion) programme to build nine Hunter-class frigates for the Royal Australian Navy (RAN).

The frigates, the first of which is scheduled to enter service in the late 2020s, are based on the Type 26-class frigate that BAE Systems is building for the UK Royal Navy.

The Australian Department of Defence (DoD) said that the new Memorandum of Understanding (MOU), which was announced on 20 October, is positioned to support both countries and both projects. The MOU reinforces Australia and the UK’s “commitment to working together on delivering these important high-profile national programmes and maximising mutual opportunities”, it said.

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BAE Systems is scheduled to start the prototyping phase of Australia’s Hunter-class frigate (an artist’s impression of which is pictured above) in late 2020. (Royal Australian Navy)

The DoD added that the agreement is focused on supporting exchanges of information and efforts to engage industry in both countries, including providing opportunities to access each other’s supply chains.

“A key aspect of the MOU is a pledge for information exchange to ensure shipbuilding best practice is shared and both frigate programmes deliver world-beating maritime capabilities to the Royal Navy and Royal Australian Navy,” said the DoD,

The DoD added that the agreement also sets out a framework to “enable both nations to utilise the Type 26 and Hunter programmes to create jobs and contribute to the growth of the UK and Australian economies”. A focus of the accord was supporting small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) in both countries, it said.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/australia-uk-sign-frigate-agreement
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Enviado por: P44 em Janeiro 09, 2021, 02:51:36 pm
08 JANUARY 2021

Royal Australian Navy formally accepts new AOR vessel from shipbuilder Navantia
by Gabriel Dominguez

The Royal Australian Navy (RAN) has formally accepted the first of two Supply-class auxiliary oiler replenishment (AOR) ships on order for the service from Spanish shipbuilder Navantia.

The Department of Defence (DoD) in Canberra announced on 8 January that the 19,500-tonne vessel, which will be known as HMAS Supply (II) (with pennant number A195) once commissioned, is expected to sail into its homeport of Sydney in the coming days.

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The future HMAS Supply during sea acceptance trials in 2020. The Australian DoD announced on 8 January that the RAN has formally accepted the AOR vessel from Spanish shipbuilder Navantia. (Navantia Australia via Twitter)

The vessel, which completed sea acceptance trials off the Spanish coast in August 2020 before arriving in Australia in October 2020 for final fit-out and testing activities, is one of two ships of the class ordered as part of an AUD642 million (USD500 million) contract signed in May 2016 under Australia’s Project Sea 1654 Phase 3 Maritime Operational Support Capability programme.

Second-of-class Stalwart (III) (with pennant number A304) was launched on 30 August 2019 and is expected to join the RAN later this year.

The 173.9 m-long vessels, which are based on the Spanish Navy’s Cantabria-class AORs, are to replace the AOR ship HMAS Success (II), which was decommissioned on 29 June 2019 after 33 years of service, and the supply ship HMAS Sirius .

“With Australia’s current replenishment capability reaching its end of life in 2021, NUSHIP Supply will be the first AOR to replace the retired HMAS Success and bridge [the] navy’s current capability gap,” Australian Defence Minister Linda Reynolds was quoted as saying.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/royal-australian-navy-formally-accepts-new-aor-vessel-from-shipbuilder-navantia
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Enviado por: P44 em Fevereiro 04, 2021, 07:30:27 am
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Enviado por: tenente em Março 15, 2021, 03:16:06 pm
Australia to decommission Armidale-class boat after 14-year service

The Royal Australian Navy (RAN) is preparing to decommission an Armidale-class patrol vessel.

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Australia’s second Armidale-class patrol boat, HMAS Larrakia , seen here during its sea trials. The vessel’s sister ship, HMAS Pirie , will be decommissioned on 26 March 2021. (Austal)
The boat, HMAS Pirie , will be decommissioned at Darwin on 26 March after 14 years of service. Its departure from its homeport of HMAS Morenton, Brisbane was announced by the RAN on 14 March.

Australia commissioned its first Armidale-class boat, HMAS Armidale in June 2005 and inducted the final vessel in the class, HMAS Glenelg , in February 2008. Pirie is the fifth-in-class, and it was commissioned in July 2006.

The Armidale class was originally 14-strong, but one of the vessels, Bundaberg , was destroyed in a major fire in 2014. The 57 m, 305-tonne aluminium-hulled boats are constructed by Austal Ships to Det Norske Veritas standards for high-speed craft and can take on operations up to Sea State 5.

The vessel’s weapons consist of a 25 mm ATK M242 marinised Bushmaster deck cannon on an Australian-manufactured Rafael Typhoon Mk 25 stabilised mount and two 12.7 mm machine guns.

The Armidale-class boats will progressively be retired to make way for the Arafura-class offshore patrol vessels (OPVs), the first of which is scheduled for handover to the RAN in late-2021.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/australia-to-decommission-armidale-class-boat-after-14-year-service

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Enviado por: NVF em Março 16, 2021, 11:36:03 am
É embrulhar dois para a GNR, porque para a Marinheca não servem devido ao excesso de armas pesadas.
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Enviado por: Kalil em Março 16, 2021, 03:35:03 pm
Vão ser encostados por aparentemente serem fracos..
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Enviado por: NVF em Março 17, 2021, 12:00:04 am
Sim, o casco e a superestrutura em alumínio não se dão bem em águas mais agitadas.
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Enviado por: Kalil em Março 17, 2021, 03:19:40 pm
Só para acrescentar, os Armidale não serão directamente substituídos apenas pelos Arafura, que são verdadeiros OPV. A classe Cape, da qual navegam já 8 navios ao serviço da Australian Border Force, tem agora mais 6 encomendados para a Marinha, numa versão melhorada. Estes sim, serão mais navios de patrulha comparáveis aos Armidale.

https://www.australiandefence.com.au/defence/sea/cape-class-applies-lessons-learned (https://www.australiandefence.com.au/defence/sea/cape-class-applies-lessons-learned)
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Enviado por: dc em Março 24, 2021, 04:44:09 pm
https://www.flightglobal.com/military-uavs/five-companies-shortlisted-for-australian-naval-uav-deal/143009.article (https://www.flightglobal.com/military-uavs/five-companies-shortlisted-for-australian-naval-uav-deal/143009.article)
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Enviado por: P44 em Abril 16, 2021, 10:41:16 am
(https://www.navy.gov.au/sites/default/files/ships/20210115ran8582987_212.jpg)

Australian Navy commissions 1st Supply-class auxiliary ship

April 13, 2021, by Naida Hakirevic

The Royal Australian Navy (RAN) has commissioned HMAS Supply (A195), the first of the two new Supply-class auxiliary oiler replenishment (AOR) ships.

HMAS Supply (II) was welcomed into Royal Australian Navy service on April 10 during a commissioning ceremony at Fleet Base East in Sydney.

Welcome to the newest member of #AusNavy’s future fleet!👋Over the weekend #HMASSupply, the 1st of 2 new Supply Class Auxiliary Oiler Replenishment ships, was welcomed into service. #DYK Supply is part of the largest regeneration of the RAN since #WWII?📖: https://t.co/w7sgk9wZtz pic.twitter.com/EuMlMUNcZl

— Department of Defence (@DeptDefence) April 12, 2021
“We celebrated the commissioning of a critical support capability that will help extend the endurance of our task groups and Navy’s ability to protect all Australians,” Commanding Officer Captain Ben Hissink said.

“We follow in the footsteps of Supply (I) that fuelled our seafarers with good oil in good spirit, but now we do so again with additional logistics and combat capabilities.”

The Supply-class replenishment vessels are build under a contract signed several years ago with Spanish shipbuilder Navantia. They are based on the Spanish Navy’s Cantabria-class AORs and displace 19,500 tons and measure 173.9 meters in length.

HMAS Supply was launched by Navantia back in November 2018.

https://www.navaltoday.com/2021/04/13/australian-navy-commissions-1st-supply-class-replenishment-ship/
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Enviado por: P44 em Maio 17, 2021, 11:09:55 am
https://www.puentedemando.com/el-aaor-stalwart-zarpara-el-20-de-mayo-en-viaje-a-australia/

(https://www.puentedemando.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/186546291_4251942194824735_5164380020582460081_n-750x422.jpg)
El buque AAOR "Stalwart", atracado en Navantia Ferrol


El AAOR “Stalwart” zarpará el 20 de mayo en viaje a Australia


Juan Carlos Diaz Lorenzo Juan Carlos Diaz Lorenzo · 17 mayo, 2021

Navantia baraja el próximo 20 de mayo como fecha de salida para el viaje de entrega del segundo AAOR que el astillero de Ferrol ha construido para la Royal Australian Navy. El buque NUSHIP “Stalwart” (A 304) inició el 20 de marzo el calendario de pruebas de mar en aguas de Galicia, al que asistieron personal del astillero y de la Marina australiana.

El contrato para la construcción de este buque se firmó el 9 de mayo de 2016. En noviembre de 2018 se procedió a la puesta de quilla y el 30 de agosto de 2019 resbaló por la grada con el ceremonial acostumbrado. La experiencia que la RAN tuvo con el fletamento del BAC “Cantabria” (A 15) resultó determinante para la resolución del contrato a favor de la empresa pública española.

Foto: José R. Montero
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Enviado por: P44 em Maio 21, 2021, 07:22:02 am
https://www.puentedemando.com/el-aaor-stalwart-zarpa-de-ferrol-en-viaje-a-australia/
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Enviado por: tenente em Julho 03, 2021, 01:46:41 pm
RAN frigate Perth back in water after partially completing AMCAP upgrades

Royal Australian Navy (RAN) Anzac-class frigate HMAS Perth returned to the water on 1 July after being lowered out of the dry dock at the Australian Marine Complex in Henderson, Western Australia.

The move followed the completion of upgrades to the frigate's radar capabilities, communications systems, and crew-habitable areas, which are a major part of the Anzac Midlife Capability Assurance Programme (AMCAP), according to a 2 July statement by the Department of Defence (DoD) in Canberra.
       
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/w3bzR3.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnw3bzR3j)
HMAS Perth being lowered out of the dry dock at the Australian Marine Complex at Henderson in Western Australia following completion of a major part of the AMCAP upgrades. (Royal Australian Navy/Commonwealth of Australia)

“This is a significant step towards the completion of Perth's upgrade, which will now move on to the final stages, enabling the ship to return to the fleet and undertake deployments and exercises with our regional partners in 2022,” Anthony Nagle, the ship's commanding officer, was quoted as saying.

The 3,600-tonne frigate (with pennant number 157) is set to undergo sea trials and certification early next year following the final steps in its upgrade process.

Perth is capable of air defence, surface, and undersea warfare and can carry out surveillance, reconnaissance, and interdiction operations. It is home-ported at Garden Island in Rockingham, Western Australia.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/ran-frigate-perth-back-in-water-after-partially-completing-amcap-upgrades

a HMAS Perth III entrou ao serviço em 2006, tem quinze anos. ::)

https://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-perth-iii

Abraços
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Enviado por: dc em Julho 03, 2021, 04:05:45 pm
Um MLU literalmente a meio da vida da fragata, onde é que já se viu isto.  ::)
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Enviado por: P44 em Julho 03, 2021, 06:40:12 pm
E aposto que demorou menos de 3 anos  :mrgreen:
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Enviado por: dc em Julho 03, 2021, 08:49:07 pm
E que o mastro também não veio oco.  :mrgreen:
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Enviado por: P44 em Julho 21, 2021, 10:32:33 am
(https://www.navyrecognition.com/images/stories/news/2021/june/Supply-class_NUSHIP_Stalwart_to_join_Royal_Australian_Navy.jpg)
NUSHIP Stalwart arriving at Fleet Base West, Australia (Picture source: Twitter account of the Chief of Navy Australia)

HMAS Stalwart is the second of the Navantia built Supply-class replenishment oiler for the Royal Australian Navy. It had its keel laid in November 2018 as a part of the SEA 1654 Phase 3 project. *

HMAS Stalwart (III) and her sister ship HMAS Supply (II) will replace HMAS Success and HMAS Sirius with a single class of two AOR Ships to sustain deployed maritime forces. The two ships are based on the Spanish Cantabria class and were built at the Ferrol shipyard.

The vessel has an overall length of 173.9 m, a displacement of 19,500 t, and a full-load deadweight of 9,800 tons. Its design draught and beams will be 8 m and 23 m respectively.

The Supply class is a class of replenishment oilers of the Royal Australian Navy, a role that combines the missions of a tanker and stores supply ship. As such they are designated auxiliary oiler replenisher (AOR). They will be tasked with providing ammunition, fuel, food and other supplies to Royal Australian Navy vessels around the world.

A replenishment oiler or replenishment tanker is a naval auxiliary ship with fuel tanks and dry cargo holds which can supply both fuel and dry stores during underway replenishment (UNREP) at sea. Many countries have used replenishment oilers.

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2021/june/10359-supply-class-nuship-stalwart-to-join-royal-australian-navy.html

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* - Demorou menos a ser construido, a fazer provas de mar, e a navegar de Espanha para a Austrália, do que o MLU da BD  :mrgreen:
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Enviado por: NVF em Julho 22, 2021, 02:21:36 am
Lá estás tu com a má-língua habitual.

Votos de mar chão, beijinhos e abraços.  :mrgreen:
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Enviado por: P44 em Julho 22, 2021, 09:09:36 am
Lá estás tu com a má-língua habitual.

Votos de mar chão, beijinhos e abraços.  :mrgreen:

Sempre  :mrgreen:

Beijinhos e boa missão!
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Enviado por: P44 em Agosto 18, 2021, 08:39:46 am
https://www.navaltoday.com/2021/08/11/new-advanced-radar-systems-on-anzac-class-frigates-hit-ioc/

The Royal Australian Navy’s Anzac-class frigates have been upgraded with new “advanced” air search radar systems which have reached the initial operating capability (IOC).


The existing air search radar system has been replaced with designed and manufactured CEAFAR-2L phased array radar system. This system complements the first generation CEAFAR-1S phased array radar capability installed during the Anzac Anti-Ship Missile Defence upgrade.

“This technology has delivered a significantly advanced air warfare and missile self-defence capability to Navy’s Anzac Class frigates and provides Navy with one of the most advanced, sovereign air search radar capabilities in the world,” Chief of the Royal Australian Navy, Michael Noonan AO RAN commented.

Among the many advantages offered by the project are the significant improvement of detection, classification and identification of air contacts, a greater level of radar and combat management system integration, improved levels of radar functionality and significant improvements in equipment support and reliability.

The replacement was jointly completed in collaboration between CEA Technologies, Saab Australia and BAE Systems.

Australian Anzac-class frigates went through upgrade programs, including the Midlife Capability Upgrade Program.

 ::)
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Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 15, 2021, 03:49:17 pm
Australia to get nuclear-powered submarines, will scrap $90b program to build French-designed subs

By defence correspondent Andrew Greene, political editor Andrew Probyn and foreign affairs reporter Stephen Dziedzic
Posted 1h ago1 hours ago, updated 33m ago

(https://live-production.wcms.abc-cdn.net.au/4b6f6aa6784e35f0c2c5b7cbd4919fa6?impolicy=wcms_crop_resize&cropH=1449&cropW=2580&xPos=60&yPos=531&width=862&height=485)

Australia's next submarine fleet will be nuclear-powered under an audacious plan that will see a controversial $90 billion program to build up to 12 French-designed submarines scrapped.

The ABC understands Australia will use American and British technology to configure its next submarine fleet in a bid to replace its existing Collins class subs with a boat more suitable to the deteriorating strategic environment.

Australia, the United States and Britain are expected to jointly announce a new trilateral security partnership on Thursday, with a focus on aligning technology and regional challenges.

But Australia's embrace of nuclear-powered submarines will have its political and technological challenges, given there is no domestic nuclear industry.

The new three-nation security pact – called AUKUS – will be seen by China as a bid to counter its regional influence, especially in the contested South China Sea.

The nuclear submarines would likely be based in WA.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-15/allied-naval-united-states-biden-australia-nuclear-submarines/100465628
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Enviado por: NVF em Setembro 15, 2021, 08:47:55 pm
Vai ser barato, vai. Um programa destes vai requerer centenas de físicos e engenheiros nucleares que não existem no país. Ainda vão “importar” chineses, iranianos e norte-coreanos.  :mrgreen:

Mas não deixa de ser estranho. Ainda a semana passada o contra-almirante responsável pelo programa foi ao senado defender a opção do Shortfin Barracuda.
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Enviado por: NVF em Setembro 16, 2021, 02:03:10 am
Parece que o projecto se vai basear no Astute, mas com o CMS americano já previsto para o Shortfin Barracuda. Mas o problema da longevidade dos Collins mantém-se, até porque estes novos SSN vão demorar muito mais tempo a construir que os SSK franceses. Já se fala em soluções intermédias mas, o mais provável, é vermos SSN americanos "forward deployed" na Austrália.

Para já vão passar 18 meses a estudar o problema e a definir o projecto. Quem deve estar com um grande melão é o Macron, apesar do acenar amigo do Biden. O australiano comum também não vai ficar muito satisfeito, pois já se fala da duplicação do orçamento de defesa e as coisas não correram muito bem por aqui com as ajudas federais ao COVID -- com algumas empresas a receberem milhares de milhões em ajudas, apesar dos seus lucros não terem diminuído e não terem que devolver um cêntimo, ao contrário do cidadão comum em situação semelhante.
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Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 16, 2021, 08:08:24 am
French Government, Naval Group React to Australia’s Decision to end Attack-class Submarine Program

Attack-class Program to enter System Functional Review on time as planned
Artist impression of the Attack-class submarine. Naval Group image.
French Government, Naval Group React To Australia’s Decision To End Attack-Class Submarine Program
Naval News Staff  16 Sep 2021

Following yesterday’s announcement that the Australian Government will no longer be proceeding with the Attack Class Submarine Program, France’s Foreign Ministry and Ministry of Defense issued the following statement:

France takes note of the decision just announced by the Australian government to stop the “Future Submarine Program” ocean-class submarine program and to launch cooperation with the United States on nuclear powered submarines.

It is a decision contrary to the letter and the spirit of the cooperation which prevailed between France and Australia, based on a relationship of political trust as on the development of an industrial and technological base of defense of very high level in Australia.

The American choice which leads to the removal of an ally and a European partner such as France from a structuring partnership with Australia, at a time when we are facing unprecedented challenges in the Indo-Pacific region, whether on our values ​​or on respect for multilateralism based on the rule of law marks an absence of coherence that France can only observe and regret.

While the joint communication on the European strategy for cooperation in the Indo-Pacific region is being published today, France confirms its desire for very ambitious action in this region aimed at preserving the “freedom of sovereignty” of everyone. . The only European nation present in the Indo-Pacific with nearly two million of its nationals and more than 7,000 soldiers, France is a reliable partner which will continue to keep its commitments there, as it has always done.

The regrettable decision just announced on the FSP program only reinforces the need to raise the issue of European strategic autonomy loud and clear. There is no other credible way to defend our interests and values ​​in the world, including the Indo-Pacific.

French shipbuilder Naval Group issued the following statement:

Naval Group takes note of the decision of the Australian authorities to acquire a fleet of nuclear submarines in collaboration with the United States and the United Kingdom.

The Commonwealth decided not to proceed with the next phase of the program. This is a major
disappointment for Naval Group, which was offering Australia a regionally superior conventional
submarine with exceptional performances. Naval Group was also offering Australia a sovereign
submarine capability making unrivalled commitments in terms of technology transfer, jobs and
local content.

For five years, Naval Group teams, both in France and in Australia, as well as our partners, have given their best and Naval Group has delivered on all its commitments.

The analysis of the consequences of this sovereign Australian decision will be conducted with the Commonwealth of Australia in the coming days.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/09/french-government-naval-group-react-to-australias-decision-to-end-attack-class-submarine-program/
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Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 16, 2021, 12:16:44 pm
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australia-get-us-nuclear-submarine-technology-china-looms-large-2021-09-15/

WASHINGTON/CANBERRA, Sept 16 (Reuters) - The United States, Britain and Australia announced a new security partnership for the Indo-Pacific in a move hailed by regional allies but denounced by China as intensifying an arms race in the region.

Under the partnership, announced by President Joe Biden, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison, the United States and Britain will provide Australia with the technology and capability to deploy nuclear-powered submarines.

The United States and its allies are looking for ways to push back against China's growing power and influence, particularly its military buildup, pressure on Taiwan and deployments in the contested South China Sea.

The three western leaders did not mention China by name in Wednesday's announcement and senior Biden administration officials, who briefed reporters ahead of time, said the partnership was not aimed at countering Beijing.

However, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian said the trio were "severely damaging regional peace and stability, intensifying an arms race, and damaging international nuclear non-proliferation efforts".

Countries should not build partnerships that target third countries, he told a regular briefing in Beijing on Thursday.

"China will closely watch the situation's development."

In a three-way virtual announcement, the leaders stressed Australia will not be fielding nuclear weapons but using nuclear propulsion systems for the vessels, to guard against threats.

"We all recognize the imperative of ensuring peace and stability in the Indo-Pacific over the long term," said Biden.

"We need to be able to address both the current strategic environment in the region, and how it may evolve because the future of each of our nations and indeed the world depends on a free and open Indo-Pacific enduring and flourishing in the decades ahead," he said.

Morrison said the submarines would be built in the city of Adelaide and Australia would meet all of its nuclear non-proliferation obligations.

ADVANCED SYSTEMS

Johnson said the pact, dubbed AUKUS, was not meant to be adversarial towards anyone and it would reduce the costs of Britain's next generation of nuclear submarines.

"Now that we have created AUKUS we expect to accelerate the development of other advanced defence systems including in cyber, artificial intelligence, quantum computing and undersea capabilities," Johnson told parliament.

One U.S. official said the partnership was the result of months of engagements by military and political leaders during which Britain - which recently sent an aircraft carrier to Asia - had indicated it wanted to do more in the region.

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern welcomed the focus on the Indo-Pacific but said Australia's nuclear-powered submarines would not be allowed in its territorial waters under a long-standing nuclear-free policy.

Singapore said it had long had relations with Australia, Britain and the United States and hoped their grouping would contribute to peace and stability.

Japan said the three countries' strengthening of security and defence cooperation was important for peace and security.

A U.S. official briefing before the announcement said Biden had not mentioned the plans "in any specific terms" to Chinese leader Xi Jinping in a call last Thursday, but did "underscore our determination to play a strong role in the Indo-Pacific." read more

U.S. officials said nuclear propulsion would allow the Australian navy to operate more quietly, for longer periods, and provide deterrence across the Indo-Pacific.

'ANGRY AND BITTER'

The partnership ends Australia's 2016 deal with French shipbuilder Naval Group to build it a new submarine fleet worth $40 billion to replace its more than two-decades-old Collins submarines, a spokesperson for Morrison told Reuters. read more

France accused Biden of stabbing it in the back and acting like his predecessor Donald Trump.

"This brutal, unilateral and unpredictable decision reminds me a lot of what Mr Trump used to do," Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian told franceinfo radio. "I am angry and bitter. This isn't done between allies."

Naval Group said in a statement that Australia's decision was a major disappointment.

Biden said the three governments would launch an 18-month consultation period "to determine every element of this program, from workforce, to training requirements, to production timelines" and to ensure full compliance with non-proliferation commitments.

The pact should be a boon for the U.S. defense industry and among the firms that could benefit are General Dynamics Corp (GD.N) and Huntington Ingalls Industries Inc (HII.N).

General Dynamics' Electric Boat business does much of the design work for U.S. submarines, but critical subsystems such as electronics and nuclear power plants are made by BWX Technologies Inc (BWXT.N)

U.S. officials did not give a time frame for when Australia would deploy a nuclear-powered submarine, or how many would be built. They said that since Australia does not have any nuclear infrastructure, it would require a sustained effort over years.

A U.S. official said Washington had shared nuclear propulsion technology only once before - with Britain in 1958 - and added: "This is frankly an exception to our policy in many respects, I do not anticipate that this will be undertaken in other circumstances ... We view this as a one-off."
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Enviado por: Viajante em Setembro 16, 2021, 01:31:52 pm
Resumindo, a Europa cada mais isolada e afastada dos EUA (independentemente de serem presidentes republicanos ou democratas no poder) e aliados mais próximos (RU, Autrália......) e um fortíssimo abalo para a França!!!!
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Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 16, 2021, 01:49:53 pm
Resumindo, a Europa cada mais isolada e afastada dos EUA (independentemente de serem presidentes republicanos ou democratas no poder) e aliados mais próximos (RU, Autrália......) e um fortíssimo abalo para a França!!!!

Para os EUA a Europa será cada vez mais insignificante, já têm o aliado natural deles de volta (UK), portanto os "continentais" que se amanhem...e o "grande amigo" Joe Talibiden já aproveitou para dar a facadinha nas costas da França...mas "orange man bad"... c56x1
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Enviado por: Stalker79 em Setembro 16, 2021, 04:56:29 pm
E a Jacinta Arden como boa fã da China que é, proibe os submarinos de passarem por lá antecipadamente, não vá o tio Xi chatear-se com ela....
 :-X
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Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 16, 2021, 07:59:10 pm
France Calls U.S.-Australia Submarine Deal a Betrayal

French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian calls U.S. move to step in a ‘stab in the back

https://www.wsj.com/articles/france-calls-u-s-australia-submarine-deal-a-betrayal-11631803278
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Enviado por: NVF em Setembro 16, 2021, 11:41:45 pm
Os franceses tem que rever — com urgência — a sua política de vendas, contrapartidas e participação industrial dos seus clientes de produtos militares. Primeiro foi o negócio dos Rafale com a Índia (apesar da eventual compra de duas esquadras por parte deste país) e agora os submarinos australianos. Ambos negócios com um valor gigantesco para a indústria e o prestígio da França. O caminho que têm vindo a tomar vai relegar a França para fornecedor de países sem capacidade industrial, negócios tipo chave na mão que não têm o prestígio nem a capacidade de influenciar outras nações, como teriam os negócios com a Índia e Austrália.
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Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 17, 2021, 09:26:36 am
Segue-se a Roménia?

https://mobile.twitter.com/D__Mitch/status/1438772500415004676
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Enviado por: LuisPolis em Setembro 17, 2021, 11:30:23 am
Segue-se a Roménia?

https://mobile.twitter.com/D__Mitch/status/1438772500415004676

A realidade é lixada. A política, a televisão, a educação actual, está a criar malta alucinada e alienada da realidade. A França é só o que dá mais nas vistas dessa desgraça toda que assola a UE mais a ocidente. Os centros de decisão são cada vez mais constituídos por carreiristas cujo objectivo é a bajulação do poder. Não se liga ao cliente, mercado, necessidades. O saber ouvir e falar. Tudo se perde.

A malta é instruída a ignorar, cancelar, censurar os que não são como eles. E depois percebem que no mundo real são na realidade putos imbecis. E choram ...
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Enviado por: NVF em Setembro 17, 2021, 12:21:34 pm
Australia To Procure Tomahawk And Hypersonic Missiles

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/09/australia-to-procure-tomahawk-and-hypersonic-missiles/ (https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/09/australia-to-procure-tomahawk-and-hypersonic-missiles/)

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Australia will acquire greater long-range strike capability across the air, land and maritime domains, including Tomahawk cruise missiles for Royal Australian Navy's Hobart class destroyers, to "enhance Australia's ability to deter and respond to potential security challenges".

Announced this week as part of the AUKUS trilateral security agreement, the systems and activities will include:

* Tomahawk Cruise Missiles, to be fielded on Hobart class destroyers, enabling Australia’s maritime assets to strike land targets at greater distances, with better precision.

*Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missiles (Extended Range),  to enable Royal Australian Air Force F/A-18 Hornets and in future, the F-35A Lightning II, to hit targets at a range of 900km.

*Long-Range Anti-Ship Missiles (Extended Range) (LRASM) for the F/A-18 Super Hornet.

*Continuing collaboration with the United States to develop hypersonic missiles for air capabilities.

*Precision strike guided missiles for Australia’s land forces, capable of destroying, neutralising and supressing diverse targets from over 400km.

*Accelerating $1 billion for a sovereign guided weapons manufacturing enterprise, to enable creation of Australian weapons in country.

The management of this transition, and other capability acquisition options that will meet Australia’s strategic requirements, will be at the forefront of consultations through AUKUS over the next 18 months.

Back in March 2021, the Australian Government announced it would accelerate the creation of a $1 billion Sovereign Guided Weapons Enterprise, boosting skilled jobs and helping secure Australia’s sovereign defence capabilities.
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Enviado por: Kalil em Setembro 17, 2021, 02:15:03 pm
Para já, o que se sabe é que os franceses estavam a cumprir com o que estava acordado, e que esta decisão é, aparentemente, mais relacionada com a nova reorganização estratégica do eixo anglo americano, no qual os australianos, e compreensivelmente, querem estar incluídos.

Não é propriamente um caso de falhanço da indústria francesa mas mais do bloco europeu, com quem ninguém conta, caso o verniz venha a estalar com os chineses.

Cumprimentos
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Enviado por: LM em Setembro 17, 2021, 02:35:22 pm
Exacto - mas, mesmo que o "bloco UE / França" fosse muito mais eficaz, era difícil "bater" a hipótese EUA (RU, aqui, é para compor o ramalhete), tendo em conta a geo-estratégia da Austrália.   
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Enviado por: LuisPolis em Setembro 17, 2021, 02:38:02 pm
Para já, o que se sabe é que os franceses estavam a cumprir com o que estava acordado, e que esta decisão é, aparentemente, mais relacionada com a nova reorganização estratégica do eixo anglo americano, no qual os australianos, e compreensivelmente, querem estar incluídos.

Não é propriamente um caso de falhanço da indústria francesa mas mais do bloco europeu, com quem ninguém conta, caso o verniz venha a estalar com os chineses.

Cumprimentos

Acho que os custos já estavam a derrapar e nunca foi mostrado uma prova de conceito. E penso que esta situação toda é também uma consequência da desgraça do contrato de aquisição dos helis Tiger. A indústria australiana não estava contente com os offsets e os militares já estavam escaldados com o apoio técnico francês. O ministro australiano é que teve a iniciativa de falar com os primos que clara e objectivamente chegaram-se à frente com um produto melhor e de outro campeonato.
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Enviado por: LuisPolis em Setembro 17, 2021, 02:44:36 pm
... mesmo que o "bloco UE / França" fosse muito mais eficaz

Mas o que é que a UE tem a ver com isso? Os próprios Franceses desentenderam-se com a Navantia (Espanha) na construção de submarinos e os espanhóis acabaram o projecto sozinhos sem antes pedir apoio aos americanos porque os mesmos não flutuavam.
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Enviado por: NVF em Setembro 17, 2021, 03:42:40 pm
Além dos problemas com os Tiger, os aussies também tido imensos problemas com os NH90.
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Enviado por: mafets em Setembro 17, 2021, 04:40:41 pm
É desta que compram os F35B para os LHA...  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/the-f-35b-and-australias-canberra-class-still-a-chance/ (https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/the-f-35b-and-australias-canberra-class-still-a-chance/)

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The F-35B and Australia’s Canberra-class: Still a Chance?
Does the F-35B still have a fighting chance to make it onto Australia’s Canberra-class warships?

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Enviado por: Lusitano89 em Setembro 17, 2021, 06:30:10 pm
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Enviado por: Kalil em Setembro 17, 2021, 10:57:51 pm
Além dos problemas com os Tiger, os aussies também tido imensos problemas com os NH90.

A verdade é que todos os projetos europeus multinacionais têm sempre grandes atrasos e elevados custos de produção/manutenção..   

Os australianos terem escolhido helicópteros europeus é que foi contracorrente, pois deveria existir a opção americana em ambos os casos. Por outro lado, se a experiência foi assim tão negativa, não fez muito sentido ter escolhido novamente a opção francesa para o maior projecto de defesa da Austrália! Tratou-se de uma opção, não era a única hipótese em cima da mesa.

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Enviado por: NVF em Setembro 18, 2021, 01:17:26 am
Os aussies querem construir em casa e manter a sua indústria militar. Dado os números de helis envolvidos serem relativamente baixos, os americanos não foram na conversa da produção local, no entanto, os europeus (liderados pela França) não se fizeram rogados, obtendo assim ambos os contratos.
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Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 18, 2021, 09:23:37 am
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Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 18, 2021, 09:27:41 am
France recalls ambassadors to US and Australia after Aukus pact

First time France has recalled a US ambassador in alliance dating back to American revolution
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/17/france-recalls-ambassadors-to-us-and-australia-after-aukus-pact


https://news.sky.com/story/france-to-recall-ambassadors-in-us-and-australia-after-aukus-submarine-deal-snub-12410788
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Enviado por: Kalil em Setembro 18, 2021, 11:26:41 am
Os aussies querem construir em casa e manter a sua indústria militar. Dado os números de helis envolvidos serem relativamente baixos, os americanos não foram na conversa da produção local, no entanto, os europeus (liderados pela França) não se fizeram rogados, obtendo assim ambos os contratos.

É uma política que faz todo o sentido para um país/continente isolado como eles. O principal problema é a falta de escala para tornar a produção interna competitiva, o que depois também deve afectar a manutenção.

No caso dos submarinos, ainda por cima nucleares, a indústria australiana vai ter um desafio enorme. Não sei qual será o prazo expectável para entrada ao serviço do primeiro..

Mas volto a referir que isto é mais uma opção estratégica a nível político que a nível de capacidades. Podiam ter aberto concurso apenas para subs nucleares logo de início se fosse fundamental, a França teria igualmente entrado na corrida.
A escolha agora foi reforçar a ligação aos aliados naturais, e teve de bonus o upgrade para nuclear, até para ajudar a justificar a mudança. Julgo que este acordo também terá condições que eram impossíveis há 2 ou 3 anos atrás, a favor dos australianos.

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Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 18, 2021, 11:38:18 am
O mais engraçado é que a energia nuclear está proibida na Austrália
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Enviado por: dc em Setembro 18, 2021, 03:32:49 pm

Havendo o interesse americano em criar uma base para submarinos nucleares na Austrália, poderá facilitar a logística de ambas as partes.

Já agora, independentemente deste negócio, os europeus sempre deram uma má imagem da sua força (ou falta dela) ao exterior. Nas questões com a China, que é o que importa para os australianos, precisam de alguém que não hesite em fazer frente aos chineses caso as coisas azedem, e isso é algo que os franceses, mesmo que quisessem, nunca teriam capacidade de fazer. Portanto é natural haver uma preferência pela presente aliança, ainda por cima quando aparece em cima da mesa e ideia "nuclear". Se calhar podiam ter incluído os franceses na aliança e consequentemente no negócio, mas estes são bastante conhecidos pelo seu individualismo nos programas militares, logo poderia não ser o melhor. No fim juntaram-se países com interesses em comum, e com um inimigo também em comum.

Os "continentais", enquanto continuarem com o seu processo de desmilitarização, nunca terão o poder que outros têm.

Estou curioso é para ver se, com esta notícia dos submarinos nucleares australianos, mais países procurarão o mesmo.
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Enviado por: NVF em Setembro 18, 2021, 04:05:26 pm
Parece que os franciús já estão a oferecer submarinos e porta-aviões nucleares aos sul-coreanos, algo que nunca passaria pela cabeça dos américas — que se recusam a vender mísseis ofensivos aos coreanos, para não irritar os do Norte.
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Enviado por: Major Alvega em Setembro 18, 2021, 04:12:38 pm
Para já, o que se sabe é que os franceses estavam a cumprir com o que estava acordado, e que esta decisão é, aparentemente, mais relacionada com a nova reorganização estratégica do eixo anglo americano, no qual os australianos, e compreensivelmente, querem estar incluídos.

Não é propriamente um caso de falhanço da indústria francesa mas mais do bloco europeu, com quem ninguém conta, caso o verniz venha a estalar com os chineses.

Cumprimentos

Não será bem assim. O programa assinado em 2015 ou 2016 já estava com um grande atraso. E com complicações a surgirem diariamente em que as autoridades australianas começaram a constatar que os problemas e contrariedades estavam a avolumar-se a cada dia que passava que levariam irremediavelmente aquele programa a um logro. E aproveitaram a mudança do seu conceito estratégico para cancelar o programa do SSK "Attack" e optar por algo que servirá melhor os seus interesses estratégicos navais e operacionais.

Não houve nenhuma facada nas costas dos EUA ou do RU. Isso é o poder político francês a fazer o seu "teatrinho" para disfarçar o fracasso perante a sua opinião pública.
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Enviado por: NVF em Setembro 19, 2021, 08:04:24 am
Australia stands up to China – by delaying submarine project for a decade

https://asiapacificdefencereporter.com/australia-stands-up-to-china-by-delaying-submarine-project-for-a-decade/ (https://asiapacificdefencereporter.com/australia-stands-up-to-china-by-delaying-submarine-project-for-a-decade/)

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At least the plan to develop 12 Attack class submarines with French technology – as flawed as it was – had some chance of delivering a capability to the RAN around 2032.  The idea of now completely switching direction and aiming for nuclear propulsion supplied by either the US or the UK has set that back by 10 years.  As more details become known – or rather as the lack of detail becomes increasingly apparent – this deal is looking more like a back of a beer coaster list of ideas compiled by some senior political advisors rather than a coherent plan.

With a startling change of direction, Australia has managed to enrage France, with unknown long term diplomatic and trade repercussions.  This goes on top of earlier efforts that similarly enraged Japan when then Prime Minister Tony Abbott assured his counterpart in 2014 that they had the future submarine project in the bag.  At least the Japanese were put out of their misery in about one year, unlike the five years of effort put in by Paris and Cherbourg.  Having said that, Naval Group has been paid a lot of money – with even more to come – so their hurt feelings have already been generously compensated for by rivers of Australian cash.

To the list of countries offended by Australia regarding submarines, Sweden can be added to the list. As the designer of the Collins class and shareholder in the Australian Submarine Corporation, the Swedes were mightily annoyed in the year 2000 when Defence nationalised the company, kicking them out with the message that they were no longer welcome and that the US would step in and fix all remaining technical problems.  Of course, that never happened – and then in 2014 to add insult to injury a New Generation Collins class was absurdly excluded from the mix, mainly because a few senior bureaucrats had developed a personal dislike of dealing with Sweden.

To be in this position of changing direction again and “stabbing in the back” the French, after already doing so to the Japanese and the Swedes is a collective display of incompetence by successive governments, the Defence bureaucracy and the RAN.  If it were not so serious, this lack of process and the squandering of billions of dollars resembles a family of orangutans trying to water a garden with a high-pressure hose.

To the extent that a justification has been provided, it is that strategic circumstances have deteriorated to such an extent that nuclear powered submarines are needed to secure Australia’s security.  This is fine, with such submarines having several advantages over conventional diesel-electric boats, including range, speed and endurance.  However, the time frame for their introduction is laughable, with best case estimates being at the end of next decade.  In the meantime, Australia will only have six Collins submarines, the life extension program of which is only scheduled to begin in 2026, rather than immediately.

If the government is actually serious about having nuclear powered submarines, why not have structured a FAUSUK treaty – France, Australia, US and UK – that could have produced a nuclear powered Attack class and taken advantage of all the work done for the last five years rather than throwing everything in the rubbish bin?  In one of many ironies, the parent Barracuda class is indeed a nuclear-powered attack submarine – and an extremely good one of that, being more stealthy than counterparts from the US and UK.  Redesigning it as a conventionally powered boat was always problematic, to put it mildly.

The Attack class were already a hybrid US-French product with the combat system to be supplied by Lockheed Martin.  At its heart is the AN-BYG1 tactical data handling system that equips Virginia class attack submarines – and a great deal of work has already taken place Australianising that system, which is already also in the Collins class.  Why not extend this principle of cooperation to the submarine’s power source and replace a French nuclear reactor in the Barracuda/Attack class with one from the US or the UK?

The importance of doing so is that French naval reactors use relatively low-grade commercial uranium fuel.  This design choice means that they need to be refuelled about every ten years – a hazardous process that can only take place with the assistance of the country’s commercial nuclear industry, which does not exist in Australia.  US and UK reactors use much higher-grade fuel and have enough energy to last for the lifetime of the submarine itself – in excess of 30 years – so no refuelling is required, negating the need for local support.

One can be almost certain that this rather obvious avenue has never been explored with the French.  Ultimately France might have said no to such an arrangement – though it seems to have benefits for everyone – at which point Australia would have been perfectly entitled to have gone down the AUKUS path.  However, what has taken place is a highly secret deal designed to exclude the French and, in the process, write off more than $4 billion – and counting.

The reason why this looks like a political backroom deal is that the way forward will be studied by the bureaucracy for the next 18 months.  Here’s a strange thought: why not study the idea first before announcing it?  What happens if the study concludes that Australia does not have the infrastructure to build nuclear submarines? Or that the timetable and the level of risk are unacceptable?  If Labor is in power then, what will they do?

We were all told repeatedly that the deal with France was not about buying submarines, it was developing a sovereign industrial capability that would make Australia independent forever.  This huge effort costing billions was to replace the sovereign capability built up in the late 1980s and 90s to build and support the Collins fleet.  All of that has now been ditched and by the look of it we will try for a third time with input from the US and the UK – both countries that are extremely protectionist when it comes to their own defence sectors – to again recreate an industry.  This is beyond ridiculous.

There seems to be something particularly cursed about Australia’s floundering attempts to replace Collins.  It’s actually fairly straightforward – most other countries manage it in a smooth, transparent and seamless way.  Here we have had six years of unconscionable neglect by the Rudd-Gillard governments, followed multiple changes of direction, damage to Australia’s reputation, huge financial losses – and still no new submarines even remotely on the acquisition horizon.

This is what happens when Defence policy – particularly for submarines – becomes politicised.  If only work on a Nextgen Collins had started in 2010 when it should have the first of a new class of ultra-modern conventional submarines would be going into the water now, massively boosting our deterrent capabilities.  Australia would have had the design expertise to be working on our own nuclear submarines that, in conjunction with the US, UK and even France, could start to enter service at the start of the next decade rather than at the end of it.

Because of this mess either this government or the next one will have to look at interim solutions. Is it possible that the US would lease two or three Virginia class to us as gap fillers?  The RN only has three Astute class out of a maximum of seven to be built, so the chances of getting any of them seem less than zero.

A case can be made for a gap-filler to be provided with the purchase of German or Swedish conventional submarines given that France is now unlikely to want to have anything more to do with Australia, even if we begged.  A more imaginative approach would be to speak with South Korea about their KSS-III batch 2 submarines.  These are about the right size for Australia at 4,000 tonnes and as well as torpedo tubes have a 6-cell vertical launch missile system, making them arguably the most potent diesel-electric submarines in the world.

South Korea is also considering building nuclear submarines and discussing a way forward with them might be very worthwhile.  However, given the lack of imagination, direction, and leadership that has become the norm in Australia, don’t expect anything to happen while we thrash around trying to figure out what to do.
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Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 20, 2021, 06:48:15 am
Austrália defende-se da fúria francesa. "Não me arrependo de pôr o interesse nacional em primeiro lugar"

Primeiro-ministro australiano compreende o desapontamento francês com o fim do contrato para a compra de submarinos, mas justificou: "Não me arrependo de ter posto o interesse nacional em 1º ligar"

https://observador.pt/2021/09/19/australia-defende-se-da-furia-francesa-nao-me-arrependo-de-por-o-interesse-nacional-em-primeiro-lugar/amp/
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Enviado por: Vitor Santos em Setembro 20, 2021, 03:05:02 pm
O mais engraçado é que a energia nuclear está proibida na Austrália

Estou curioso para saber em qual ambiente /ecossistema os australianos vão recrutar seus engenheiros e especialistas em caldeiras nucleares, sendo o país alérgico a essa ciência.

Fora os custos por oito SSN construídos no país, ou seja, as cifras pela transferências de tecnologia e o estabelecimento de uma ferramenta industrial dedicada, bem como de instalações específicas. Serão custos nada módicos tal como estavam previstos os 12 SSK da Naval Group.

Por vinte anos, portanto, a Marinha Real Australiana terá que lidar com seus seis submarinos Collins ... Ao mesmo tempo, terá que treinar tripulações para implementar seu futuro SSN. Isso levanta, novamente, a questão dos recursos humanos.

Mas parece que eles têm muitos estudantes chineses e, uma diáspora chinesa, não menos numerosa. Até lá, quem sabe, os "aussies" tirem do Brasil o título de primeiro país do Hemisfério Sul a ter e operar SSNs.
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Enviado por: Lusitano89 em Setembro 20, 2021, 04:20:42 pm
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Enviado por: LuisPolis em Setembro 20, 2021, 04:32:05 pm

Estou curioso para saber em qual ambiente /ecossistema os australianos vão recrutar seus engenheiros e especialistas em caldeiras nucleares, sendo o país alérgico a essa ciência.

Essa parte será feita pelos Ingleses.


Fora os custos por oito SSN construídos no país, ou seja, as cifras pela transferências de tecnologia e o estabelecimento de uma ferramenta industrial dedicada, bem como de instalações específicas. Serão custos nada módicos tal como estavam previstos os 12 SSK da Naval Group.

Não vai haver transferência de tecnologia. Os equipamentos serão enviados como peças de lego. É só montar sobe supervisão.


Por vinte anos, portanto, a Marinha Real Australiana terá que lidar com seus seis submarinos Collins ... Ao mesmo tempo, terá que treinar tripulações para implementar seu futuro SSN. Isso levanta, novamente, a questão dos recursos humanos.

Eles serão treinados a bordo dos subs Americanos e Britânicos. Os países envolvidos são todos de culturas que sabem quantificar o conhecimento. Os processos são muito simplificados e testados.

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Enviado por: Lusitano89 em Setembro 20, 2021, 07:13:12 pm
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Enviado por: Kalil em Setembro 20, 2021, 09:10:39 pm

Estou curioso para saber em qual ambiente /ecossistema os australianos vão recrutar seus engenheiros e especialistas em caldeiras nucleares, sendo o país alérgico a essa ciência.

Essa parte será feita pelos Ingleses.


Fora os custos por oito SSN construídos no país, ou seja, as cifras pela transferências de tecnologia e o estabelecimento de uma ferramenta industrial dedicada, bem como de instalações específicas. Serão custos nada módicos tal como estavam previstos os 12 SSK da Naval Group.

Não vai haver transferência de tecnologia. Os equipamentos serão enviados como peças de lego. É só montar sobe supervisão.


Por vinte anos, portanto, a Marinha Real Australiana terá que lidar com seus seis submarinos Collins ... Ao mesmo tempo, terá que treinar tripulações para implementar seu futuro SSN. Isso levanta, novamente, a questão dos recursos humanos.

Eles serão treinados a bordo dos subs Americanos e Britânicos. Os países envolvidos são todos de culturas que sabem quantificar o conhecimento. Os processos são muito simplificados e testados.

Submarinos nucleares é do mais simples e fácil de construir que há, faz mesmo lembrar os legos.

Os ingleses demoraram 20 anos para ter 4  Astute class operacionais, mas vão ser mais rápidos para ajudar os primos..
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Enviado por: LuisPolis em Setembro 20, 2021, 09:38:59 pm

Estou curioso para saber em qual ambiente /ecossistema os australianos vão recrutar seus engenheiros e especialistas em caldeiras nucleares, sendo o país alérgico a essa ciência.

Essa parte será feita pelos Ingleses.


Fora os custos por oito SSN construídos no país, ou seja, as cifras pela transferências de tecnologia e o estabelecimento de uma ferramenta industrial dedicada, bem como de instalações específicas. Serão custos nada módicos tal como estavam previstos os 12 SSK da Naval Group.

Não vai haver transferência de tecnologia. Os equipamentos serão enviados como peças de lego. É só montar sobe supervisão.


Por vinte anos, portanto, a Marinha Real Australiana terá que lidar com seus seis submarinos Collins ... Ao mesmo tempo, terá que treinar tripulações para implementar seu futuro SSN. Isso levanta, novamente, a questão dos recursos humanos.

Eles serão treinados a bordo dos subs Americanos e Britânicos. Os países envolvidos são todos de culturas que sabem quantificar o conhecimento. Os processos são muito simplificados e testados.

Submarinos nucleares é do mais simples e fácil de construir que há, faz mesmo lembrar os legos.

Os ingleses demoraram 20 anos para ter 4  Astute class operacionais, mas vão ser mais rápidos para ajudar os primos..

Não foi isso que quis dizer. O que quis dizer é que os australianos não vão gastar em investigação como o Brasil. Os subs serão montados sob supervisão ou melhor será o RU e EUA a irem montar os mesmos na Austrália.
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Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 21, 2021, 02:06:49 pm
French MoD Setting The Record Straight On Australian Submarine Affair

The spokesperson of the French Ministry of Defense (MoD), Hervé Grandjean, took to Twitter today to set the record straight on the "Australian submarine affair".

Xavier Vavasseur  21 Sep 2021

Australia last week announced its intention to acquire at least eight nuclear-powered submarines (SSN) as part of an enhanced trilateral security partnership between Australia, the UK and the US dubbed AUKUS. This announcement also means the end of the Attack Class Submarine Program which sparked a major diplomatic crisis between France and its three allies.

For the record, the Australian Government selected Naval Group (then known as DCNS) as its preferred international partner for the design of 12 Future submarines for the Royal Australian Navy on April 26 2016. In the SEA1000 project, DCNS was competing with the Shortfin Barracuda design against Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) Type 216 and Japan’s Soryu-class designs. Based on the new Barracuda nuclear-powered attack submarine (SSN) of the French Navy (the first ship has already been delivered), Australia’s Attack-class submarine was set to be 97 meters in length and 8.8 meters in diameter.  Lockheed Martin was announced as the Future Submarine Combat System Integrator in September 2016 and the Design Build and Integration Contract was signed 12 January 2018.

The recently cancelled Attack-class program was set to see the first of twelve new submarines start construction in 2023 and be delivered in the mid-2030s. The new plan under the AUKUS initiative aims at starting to build the first of at least eight SSNs from the 2030ies.

In this context, Hervé Grandjean, spokesman of the French Mod published today a long and detailed thread on Twitter:

In the last few days, everything and its opposite has been said about the Australian submarine contract. The safety of Australians and the performance of our industrialists deserve better than peremptory statements. A #thread to better understand the Australian submarine affair.

— Porte-parole du ministère des Armées (@HerveGrandjean) September 21, 2021
France and submarines are a serious business.

Over the past 120 years, France has built more than 250 submarines, including more than 230 conventional-powered ones. The feedback in terms of engineering and know-how is considerable.

The French project benefited directly from the technological assets of the Suffren nuclear attack submarine, as well as from Naval Group’s expertise, gained from numerous Scorpene programs sold for export (Chile, Malaysia, India, Brazil)

In many ways, the performance of the Attack submarine offered by France to the Australians was better than that offered by a nuclear submarine. Why?

Particularly in terms of acoustics, the discretion of a conventional submarine remains under certain circumstances paradoxically better than that of a nuclear submarine: a conventional submarine does not have a permanent cooling system for its reactor in operation.

The silent speed (at which a submarine can listen without being detected) was particularly high thanks to the pump-jet technology, that very few countries master.

The submarine proposed to Australia was of oceanic class, meaning it had very high autonomy and range capabilities.

France and Australian submarines: the customer is king

In 2009, the Australian Defence White Paper, two years after the start of the Collins replacement project, already said: “The Government has ruled out nuclear propulsion for these submarines”.

In August 2021, the joint press release of the French and Australian defense and foreign affairs ministers still stated, “Ministers underlined the importance of the Future Submarine program.”

On the same day as the AUKUS announcement, the Australians wrote to France to say that they were satisfied with the submarine’s achievable performance and with the progress of the program. In short: forward to launching the next phase of the contract.

Returning to the surface to recharge the batteries is inherent to a diesel-electric submarine. This was the Australian request.

A nuclear submarine has, by nature, a greater projection capability than a conventional submarine. The planned tonnage of the SM Attack (between 5,000 and 6,000 tonnes) was large enough to provide the projection capability required for Australian naval operations.

The Australian choice: bad news for… the Australians.

The first Attack submarines were to be delivered by 2030. With this new AUKUS partnership, it will be more like 2040. That’s a long time, when you see how fast China is militarizing…#FastIsBeautiful

According to a June 2021 Congressional Research Service report, the production costs of the last two Virginia SSNs ordered (35th and 36th) would be $6.91 billion, or $3.46 billion per unit (€2.95 billion). Much more expensive than a French Barracuda for example…#GoodManagement

The September 17 announcement indicates that the nuclear submarines will be built in Australia. But Australia says it does not want a nuclear industry, neither civilian nor military. #Coherence

Are we to understand that the United States will provide complete nuclear boiler rooms to be integrated into submarines, with teams of American technicians to ensure commissioning, maintenance and perhaps even operation? #Sovereignty

Investments in infrastructure capable of hosting nuclear submarines in Australia, necessary to prevent any environmental risk, will be expensive and complex. #Complexity

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/09/french-mod-setting-the-record-straight-on-australian-submarine-affair/
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Enviado por: Kalil em Setembro 21, 2021, 04:08:35 pm

Estou curioso para saber em qual ambiente /ecossistema os australianos vão recrutar seus engenheiros e especialistas em caldeiras nucleares, sendo o país alérgico a essa ciência.

Essa parte será feita pelos Ingleses.


Fora os custos por oito SSN construídos no país, ou seja, as cifras pela transferências de tecnologia e o estabelecimento de uma ferramenta industrial dedicada, bem como de instalações específicas. Serão custos nada módicos tal como estavam previstos os 12 SSK da Naval Group.

Não vai haver transferência de tecnologia. Os equipamentos serão enviados como peças de lego. É só montar sobe supervisão.


Por vinte anos, portanto, a Marinha Real Australiana terá que lidar com seus seis submarinos Collins ... Ao mesmo tempo, terá que treinar tripulações para implementar seu futuro SSN. Isso levanta, novamente, a questão dos recursos humanos.

Eles serão treinados a bordo dos subs Americanos e Britânicos. Os países envolvidos são todos de culturas que sabem quantificar o conhecimento. Os processos são muito simplificados e testados.

Submarinos nucleares é do mais simples e fácil de construir que há, faz mesmo lembrar os legos.

Os ingleses demoraram 20 anos para ter 4  Astute class operacionais, mas vão ser mais rápidos para ajudar os primos..

Não foi isso que quis dizer. O que quis dizer é que os australianos não vão gastar em investigação como o Brasil. Os subs serão montados sob supervisão ou melhor será o RU e EUA a irem montar os mesmos na Austrália.

Eu percebi, só estou a dizer que este programa de simples não tem nada, será um atraso de muitos anos no que era a previsão original da Marinha australiana. Mesmo com toda a ajuda que possa haver, montar subs nucleares nunca será fácil nem rápido.

Os franceses estavam há vários anos a transformar um projecto que era de um sub nuclear num sub convencional, ironia do destino, esse desenvolvimento vai todo para o lixo para ser substituído por .. um submarino nuclear.
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Enviado por: HSMW em Setembro 21, 2021, 06:39:25 pm
É impressão minha ou há demasiada choradeira e um alarido pouco usual na nossa comunicação social sobre este assunto?

É que normalmente estão-se borrifando para os temas de defesa, principalmente sobre as forças armadas nacionais.
Mas os submarinos australianos até são tema abordado no telejornal, como se não tivéssemos problemas cá!!!


Pressão/influência chinesa?

Talvez seja só impressão minha...
Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: LuisPolis em Setembro 21, 2021, 08:50:22 pm
É impressão minha ou há demasiada choradeira e um alarido pouco usual na nossa comunicação social sobre este assunto?

É que normalmente estão-se borrifando para os temas de defesa, principalmente sobre as forças armadas nacionais.
Mas os submarinos australianos até são tema abordado no telejornal, como se não tivéssemos problemas cá!!!


Pressão/influência chinesa?

Talvez seja só impressão minha...

Por acaso também estou com essa impressão. O curioso é que a choradeira nem sequer foi instântanea (a notícia saiu para aí na sexta-feira e o choradinho começou em força ontem)
Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 22, 2021, 08:59:09 am
Fala-se nisto na nossa CS?
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Enviado por: Viajante em Setembro 22, 2021, 09:42:42 am
Fala-se nisto na nossa CS?

É verdade!
Os nossos submarinos foram sempre ostracizados desde a sua recepção, ainda no tempo do Sócrates..... talvez por não ter sido ele a negociar as contrapartidas!
Mas a nossa comunicação social só fala nos submarinos australianos, pelo facto de terem rasgado o contrato com os franceses! Inacreditável a nossa CS.....

Aspecto positivo, os avecs podiam pressionar a Alemanha para que todas as compras militares dos países da UE ficassem fora do défice, através de créditos directos no BCE. Por exemplo estabelecia-se um valor anual de compras, por exemplo de 50 000 milhões de euros para toda a UE, como Portugal tem 2,1% da população, tinha direito a pouco mais de mil milhões de compras anuais, comparticipadas a 85%. O orçamento de estado (ou LPM) só tinha de cobrir os 15% restantes!

Se os avecs são realmente inteligentes, tentavam algo do género!
Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: LM em Setembro 22, 2021, 11:20:20 am
Era uma forma excelente de aumentar as despesas na Defesa europeia - mas, confessso, duvido que o governo e/ou restantes responsáveis políticos, fossem aproveitar... não é prioridade, para eles nem vêem razão para isso (pelo contrario preferem não investir).

Ainda arranjavam forma, tipo a habilidade das rendas dos quartéis, de usar essa folga em outras coisas...       
Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: Lusitano89 em Setembro 23, 2021, 08:38:45 pm
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Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 24, 2021, 10:20:06 am
Australia in talks to lease, buy existing subs​

September 23, 2021, by Fatima Bahtić

The Australian government will be in discussions to lease or buy the existing submarines from the US and UK in the next 12 to 18 months, Australia’s Minister for Defence Peter Dutton revealed.

The information was confirmed in a transcript released by the defence ministry three days ago. Last week, the government announced its plans to build at least eight nuclear-powered submarines under a new Indo-Pacific security partnership with the United States and Britain, AUKUS.

Nuclear powered submarines have superior characteristics of stealth, speed, maneuverability, survivability and substantial endurance compared to the conventional ones. These abilities allow nuclear-powered submarines to operate in contested areas with a lower risk of detection.

The first initiative under AUKUS is for Australia to acquire nuclear-powered submarine technology, focusing on identifying the optimal pathway to deliver the submarines.

https://www.navaltoday.com/2021/09/23/australia-in-talks-to-lease-buy-existing-subs/
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Enviado por: P44 em Setembro 29, 2021, 03:43:57 pm
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Click to Enlarge. The U.S. Navy's Virginia Class, and Royal Navy's Astute Class, are broadly comparable. They can both carry 38 torpedo-sized weapons. This is significantly more than Australia's current Collins Class. These can include Tomahawk land-attack cruise missiles.

The 5 Main Options For Australia’s AUKUS Nuclear Submarine Deal

As Australia looks set to join the elite club of nuclear submarine operators, we explore the options. The U.S. Navy's Virginia Class? The Royal Navy's Astute Class? Or something new? We have identified the 5 most obvious candidates.

H I Sutton  29 Sep 2021

Since the announcement that Australia will build nuclear-powered submarines on September 15, speculation has been rife as to which submarines are being considered. The partners, Australian-United Kingdom-United States (AUKUS), have given themselves 18 months to come up with a plan.

Few details have trickled out since the joint announcement. So the question remains, which type of nuclear submarine will Australia get? Stepping back, let’s explore the options.

We can be confident that the submarine will essentially be British or American. There are five main options to consider.

The first two are the U.S. Navy and Royal Navy’s existing designs, the (1) Virginia Class and (2) Astute Class. Then there are the corresponding next generation attack submarine programs, the (3) SSN(X) and (4) SSN(R). And lastly, (5) a whole new design but leveraging technology from US and UK.

More ambitiously it might be a substantially indigenous design with only minimal input from US or UK. Or perhaps the next generation submarine projects of all three countries will be combined into a single type, to be built in all three countries. These possibilities feel less likely at this point.

Other honorable mentions could include a fourth country’s design such as France or India. Or China or Russia (as if!). Or only second-hand submarines. Maybe even older ballistic missile types (SSBNs) repurposed as attack submarines. None of these solutions really ring true with the original announcement and are not being explored any further in this article.

1. Virginia Class – America’s trusted attack submarine
The first type which comes to many lips is the U.S. Navy’s Virginia Class. No one doubts its capabilities, and commonality with the US Navy would yield training and support benefits. It uses US weapons systems, which the RAN already has in its inventory, such as the Mk.48 ADCAP torpedo.

And its vertical launch system (VLS) gives compatibility with Tomahawk cruise missiles. Australia is already set to acquire these, but for the surface fleet. It would be natural to put them aboard the Virginias too.

In fact the Virginias make less sense without Tomahawk or some other missile to put into the VLS. The current Block-IV Virginias have 12 vertical missiles, and the Block-V will have 40. The Block-V’s capacity seems overkill, so a Block-IV appears more likely. Although benefiting from some advancements from later blocks.

A challenge with the Virginia Class could be the cost of setting up Australian production. Although there is speculation that Australia could acquire the boats straight off US production lines, this isn’t in the spirit of the announcement. And US yards have years of Virginia class construction ahead. So a new set of tooling would need to be made to set up a new production line in Australia.

2. Astute Class – the British option
The Royal Navy’s Astute class is broadly equivalent to the Virginia Class. Similar in overall size and capability, it may have a couple of advantages which might attract the RAN. The first is that, unlike with the Virginias, tooling might already be available. The last of the Royal Navy’s 7 boats, HMS Agincourt, is expected to be floated in the next couple of years. This might free up the tooling which could be shipped to Australia, representing a significant cost and time saving.

Another potential strength of the Astute is that it has a smaller crew. Still much larger than the current Collins Class, that is to be expected for a long-range nuclear boat, but smaller than the Virginia’s. The Astute is crewed by 98-109 people, while the Virginias normally have around 135. The Collin’s for comparison has 58, so we are talking about at least doubling the submariner needs.

A challenge for the Astute option might be the nuclear reactor. The current PWR2 reactor is no longer in production. Potentially the newer PWR3, or a US reactor, could be fitted, but this would complicate things.

At any rate an Australian Astute Class boat would likely have some modifications to suit RAN needs. We can speculate that these might include an alternative sonar and possibly US weapons to keep continuity with the Collins. But it is anyway compatible with tube-launched Tomahawks.

Some technologies for the next generation SSN(R) design could also be incorporated, which brings us to the next two options.

3 & 4. Next Generation Attack Submarines
Joining one of the existing next-generation projects, SSN(X) and SSN(R), could allow Australia to enter the nuclear submarine club at the very top. Advances in propulsion, sonar, stealth, quantum computing, integration with uncrewed underwater vehicles and so on, would be baked in.

It would also allow the other party, US or UK, to more directly share the development costs, which might be more attractive. The challenge of course will be timelines. Australia needs new submarines to be in the water in 2040s, and the current Collins Class will only last until around 2048. Both the SSN(X) and SSN(R) are expected to start getting wet in the 2030s. But timelines on these types of project are always likely subject to skepticism. Especially if another navy joins the party and adds requirements.

One key technology which hasn’t been discussed much is hypersonic weapons. The US Navy appears to be going that way, and possibly the Royal Navy too. If the RAN want to future-proof, them might consider this variable. Which boat lines them up best for future weapons?

The next-generation boats are also expected to be larger than the current types. Partly this will be due to improved stealth with new propulsion technologies. But in the submarine game, larger normally means more expensive.

5. A truly Australian design
By going their own way, Australia could build a submarine tailored to their needs while still leveraging key British or American technologies. The result might be a smaller and cheaper boat, yet still giving the RAN the main advantages of nuclear power.

Of course this option takes the biggest risk in design terms, even if the end product is more modest. In particular, it would place a strain on the limited pool of naval architects and engineers needed to design it. This is actually true of all the options above, but more so with this one. Would the Australian program be poaching designers from the SSN(X) and SSN(R) programs?

Outlook
Whatever the options being considered, building nuclear submarines in Australia will take decades. In the meantime the current Collins Class diesel-electric submarines will be upgraded to keep them operable.

The RAN might also consider leasing US Navy or Royal Navy boats. Several Los Angeles Class and Trafalgar Class boats are due for retirement in the coming years. These could be extended for a few years until the fuel runs out. Maybe even moored in port as stationary training platforms. In addition to these types of progressive steps, RAN submariners could become a common sight aboard British and American boats. And Australian engineers too.

Stepping back again, it is a massive undertaking for the RAN. But they are lucky to have the AUKUS partnership which opens the door to these illusive technologies.

The biggest threat may be in the process. The boats are all excellent, there is almost no bad option. But an indecision or ambiguity could lead to delays.

And regardless of the RAN program, we may see more countries going for nuclear submarines. And China, the focus of the AUKUS submarine deal, won’t slow down to accommodate Australia’s challenges.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/09/the-5-main-options-for-australias-aukus-nuclear-submarine-deal/
Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: P44 em Outubro 06, 2021, 04:02:34 pm
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The future HMAS Stalwart. second of two new replenishment ships for Australia built in Spain, will commission in 2022. RAN photo.

https://seawaves.com/
Título: Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
Enviado por: P44 em Outubro 22, 2021, 12:31:37 pm
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https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2021/october/10834-launch-of-the-first-steel-unit-for-the-australian-hunter-class-frigate-program.html
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Enviado por: Lusitano89 em Novembro 01, 2021, 05:25:20 pm
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Enviado por: P44 em Novembro 22, 2021, 10:16:32 am
AUKUS: Australia Signs Naval Nuclear Propulsion Information Sharing Agreement
The Australian government today signed with British and American diplomats the agreement paving the way to the procurement of nuclear-powered submarines (SSN) for the Royal Australian Navy, in the frame of AUKUS.
Xavier Vavasseur  22 Nov 2021

Australian Department of Defence press release

The signing of the Exchange of Naval Nuclear Propulsion Information Agreement (the Agreement) with our AUKUS partners – the United Kingdom and the United States – is another important step in Australia’s pursuit of conventionally armed, nuclear-powered submarines.

Minister for Defence the Hon Peter Dutton MP said the Agreement will further advance consultations by permitting the United Kingdom and the United States to exchange sensitive and classified naval nuclear propulsion information with a third country for the first time.

Minister Dutton said:

“This Agreement will support Australia in completing the 18 months of intensive and comprehensive examination of the requirements underpinning the delivery of nuclear-powered submarines.
The United Kingdom and the United States will be able to share naval nuclear propulsion information with Australia, which they cannot with any other country, in the determination of the optimal pathway to acquire nuclear-powered submarines for operation by the Royal Australian Navy.
With access to the information this Agreement delivers, coupled with the decades of naval nuclear-powered experience our UK and US partners have, Australia will also be positioned to be responsible and reliable stewards of this technology.”

This morning I met with UK High Commissioner Victoria Treadell and US Chargé d’Affaires Michael Goldman to sign the AUKUS Exchange of Naval Nuclear Propulsion Information Agreement. This Agreement formalises Australian access to highly sensitive nuclear submarine technology. pic.twitter.com/UtKYRl6PwS

— Peter Dutton (@PeterDutton_MP) November 22, 2021
The Agreement will also provide a mechanism for Australian personnel to access invaluable training and education from their UK and US counterparts, necessary for learning how to safely and effectively build, operate and support nuclear-powered submarines.

Importantly, the Agreement is consistent with Australia’s international obligations, including under the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons.

Australia is not seeking nuclear weapons.  The submarines will be conventionally armed. The Agreement only allows for the sharing of naval nuclear propulsion information.  No nuclear equipment can be transferred under this agreement.

Minister Dutton also highlighted the importance of the Agreement for Australia’s regulatory framework.

“This Agreement will assist Australia to develop the necessary skills and knowledge to create a world-class regulatory and safety regime required for the safe operation of naval nuclear propulsion,” Minister Dutton said.

“I thank our AUKUS partners for their commitment to bringing this pivotal agreement together quickly which assures continued progress for our nuclear-powered submarine ambitions and our collective efforts to ensure the Indo-Pacific remains stable, secure and prosperous, and free from coercion.”

The Agreement was today tabled in the Australian Parliament for consideration by the Joint Standing Committee on Treaties.  The Agreement is also subject to the domestic processes of the United States and the United Kingdom.

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Naval News comments:

On 16 September 2021, the Prime Minister of Australia, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and the President of the United States of America, announced an enhanced trilateral security partnership between Australia, the UK and the US (AUKUS). As announced at the time, the first major initiative under AUKUS is Australia’s acquisition of at least eight nuclear-powered submarines. The Australian Government intends to build these submarines in Adelaide. This announcement meant the Australian Government will no longer be proceeding with the Attack Class Submarine Program. The decision angered France who was deeply involved in the program, with French shipbuilder Naval Group designing the boats. France also had a strategic partnership agreement in place with Australia. At the end of September, the tension between the four allies was such that Paris had recalled its ambassadors in Australia and the United States. While relations with the United States have since been normalized, those with Australia remain complicated.

It is still unclear which SSN design Australia will adopt. Our contributor H I Sutton looked at several options in this recent article:
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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/11/aukus-australia-signs-naval-nuclear-propulsion-information-sharing-agreement/
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Enviado por: P44 em Novembro 24, 2021, 12:09:56 pm
BAE Systems sends UK’s Type 26 frigate design data to Australia
INDUSTRY NEWS
November 23, 2021, by Fatima Bahtić
British arms, security, and aerospace company BAE Systems has unveiled that it is transferring more than two million digital artefacts and 90,000 documents from the UK’s Type 26 frigate program to Adelaide’s Osborne Naval Shipyard.

As explained, the data will be transferred to support the construction of the Hunter-class frigates, the Royal Australian Navy’s next generation of anti-submarine warships.

Specifically, BAE Systems Maritime Australia is building nine Hunter-class frigates based on the global combat ship (GCS) baseline design and the Type 26 reference ship currently under construction in Glasgow for the UK’s Royal Navy.

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https://www.navaltoday.com/2021/11/23/bae-systems-sends-uks-type-26-frigate-design-data-to-australia/