[saabGripen]

Pois,
Alguns bonecos, andaram a brincar e as M holandesas já terão destino.
Agora é aguentar com os chassos até, pelo menos ... 2035 !
 

Deixaram escapar "a compra"'? Para onde vão as M?

Eu imagino que isto se vai transformar numa grande festa/orgia   Marinha/DAMEN.

- Bimby
- Outra Bimby
- Modernizar VdG com equipamentos parecidos com os da MLU das BD.
- Equipar 6 NPO

**** Concessionar o Arsenal do Alfeite á DAMEN por 25 anos - penso que a Europa vai precisar de mais capacidade de estaleiros nos próximos anos ****   

Já dá bastante dinheiro e abre portas para outros negócios.
Quem sabe se não dá outra BD?

[LM]

Gastar dinheiro nas Meko... 

[P44]

Pois,
Alguns bonecos, andaram a brincar e as M holandesas já terão destino.
Agora é aguentar com os chassos até, pelo menos ... 2035 !
 

Deixaram escapar "a compra"'? Para onde vão as M?

Quase aposto que será para o Chile

[Pescador]

Cá tudo não passa de lirismo. Vaidades apregoadas, que vão sendo esquecidas com o tempo e servem para nada se fazer e ir faturando lugares.

A verdade é apenas uma. Na década de trinta, navios com mais de 40 anos que depois nem servem para nada e, até podem andar a dar peças uns para outros.
Depois haverá os tais NPO glorificado concebidos nos anos 80  do século passado e remendados um dia destes, que pouco mais fazem que turismo. E a famosa Bimby a embarcar civis ou dar abébias para os amigos a sul para convívio bilateral. Porque é essa vida na essência de muitos na Marinha há algumas décadas 

Parabéns

[Cabeça de Martelo]

As VdG recusam-se a morrer e a Marinha/governo recusam matá-las... temos zumbis/mutantes para 200 anos sem problemas!*

Please note RFP Milestone Dates and required documents to be included in bids as noted in the
Bidding Instructions as follows:
Milestones:
1. Bidders’ Conference Registration Due: 30 April 2024
2. Bidders’ Conference: 13-17 May 2024
3. Last Bidder Questions: 2 June 2024
4. Bid Closing: 30 June 2024



* referência a "Fallout".

[P44]

Era giro não haver nenhuma candidatura 

Mas há sempre aqueles que gostam de recuperar clássicos

Quando temos 2 corvetas com mais de 50 anos a navegar e os bonecos ainda vão para o facebook comemorar aniversários ao invés de encherem a cara de ....
30 anos é peaners

[Cabeça de Martelo]

Um jpg antigo, para fazermos um resumo das alterações em curso:

The radar should have a maximum calculated range of 120NM (222.24 km) for the detection of aerial targets

KRONOS naval multifunctional radar - Air and surface surveillance up to 250km

https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/18327106/KRONOS+Naval+Radar+%28mm07664%29+2022+2.pdf?t=1671029132841

TRS-4D Rotator - Instrumented range: 250 km

https://dam.hensoldt.net/m/1cc7b53da977b083/original/TRS-4D-Datasheet-english.pdf


TACTAS (MAX weight 10 tons):

  https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/0/ATAS_NR.pdf?t=1685007556352

The ATAS is subdivided into modules of less than three tonnes for it to be easily transferable from one ship to another, although procured initially to equip the PPA ‘Full combatant’ platforms, the first of which is to be delivered in 2024. It has an overall weight of less than 9 tonnes, being composed of a Launch and Recovery System (LARS) less than 2 m high, towed body and array, power and processing electronics cabinets, local console.

The Captas-1 is the smallest member of the Captas family of towed sonars by Thales.

CAPTAS-1 with a typical detection range up to 30 km, for installation on OPVs weighing about 800 tonnes, using a single dependent tow for both the active sonar source and a triplet receiver array with a <16 m2 deck footprint and weighing 7.3 tonnes.

Ultra Sea Sabre

Installation Mass (Active / Passive) - 12107 / 8815 kg

  https://www.ultra.group/media/2522/sea-sabre-datasheet_final.pdf

Há mais radares e sonares que cumprem ou superam os requisitos, eu limitei-me a colocar alguns.

[Drecas]

Um jpg antigo, para fazermos um resumo das alterações em curso:

The radar should have a maximum calculated range of 120NM (222.24 km) for the detection of aerial targets

KRONOS naval multifunctional radar - Air and surface surveillance up to 250km

https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/18327106/KRONOS+Naval+Radar+%28mm07664%29+2022+2.pdf?t=1671029132841

TRS-4D Rotator - Instrumented range: 250 km

https://dam.hensoldt.net/m/1cc7b53da977b083/original/TRS-4D-Datasheet-english.pdf


TACTAS (MAX weight 10 tons):

  https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/0/ATAS_NR.pdf?t=1685007556352

The ATAS is subdivided into modules of less than three tonnes for it to be easily transferable from one ship to another, although procured initially to equip the PPA ‘Full combatant’ platforms, the first of which is to be delivered in 2024. It has an overall weight of less than 9 tonnes, being composed of a Launch and Recovery System (LARS) less than 2 m high, towed body and array, power and processing electronics cabinets, local console.

The Captas-1 is the smallest member of the Captas family of towed sonars by Thales.

CAPTAS-1 with a typical detection range up to 30 km, for installation on OPVs weighing about 800 tonnes, using a single dependent tow for both the active sonar source and a triplet receiver array with a <16 m2 deck footprint and weighing 7.3 tonnes.

Ultra Sea Sabre

Installation Mass (Active / Passive) - 12107 / 8815 kg

  https://www.ultra.group/media/2522/sea-sabre-datasheet_final.pdf

Há mais radares e sonares que cumprem ou superam os requisitos, eu limitei-me a colocar alguns.

isso é de onde?

[Pescador]

Um jpg antigo, para fazermos um resumo das alterações em curso:

The radar should have a maximum calculated range of 120NM (222.24 km) for the detection of aerial targets

KRONOS naval multifunctional radar - Air and surface surveillance up to 250km

https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/18327106/KRONOS+Naval+Radar+%28mm07664%29+2022+2.pdf?t=1671029132841

TRS-4D Rotator - Instrumented range: 250 km

https://dam.hensoldt.net/m/1cc7b53da977b083/original/TRS-4D-Datasheet-english.pdf


TACTAS (MAX weight 10 tons):

  https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/0/ATAS_NR.pdf?t=1685007556352

The ATAS is subdivided into modules of less than three tonnes for it to be easily transferable from one ship to another, although procured initially to equip the PPA ‘Full combatant’ platforms, the first of which is to be delivered in 2024. It has an overall weight of less than 9 tonnes, being composed of a Launch and Recovery System (LARS) less than 2 m high, towed body and array, power and processing electronics cabinets, local console.

The Captas-1 is the smallest member of the Captas family of towed sonars by Thales.

CAPTAS-1 with a typical detection range up to 30 km, for installation on OPVs weighing about 800 tonnes, using a single dependent tow for both the active sonar source and a triplet receiver array with a <16 m2 deck footprint and weighing 7.3 tonnes.

Ultra Sea Sabre

Installation Mass (Active / Passive) - 12107 / 8815 kg

  https://www.ultra.group/media/2522/sea-sabre-datasheet_final.pdf

Há mais radares e sonares que cumprem ou superam os requisitos, eu limitei-me a colocar alguns.

Em números redondos quanto orça isso tudo para cada navio?

[LM]

Neste momento a classe VdG têm os radares DA-08 (2D, Médio/Longo alcance) e o MW-08 (3D, Médio/ Curto alcance); A classe BD têm LW-08 (2D Médio/ Longo alcance) e SMART-S (3D Médio/ Curto alcance), certo?

The Thales LW08 is a 2-D radar system that equips the cruiser, a radar that  performs the long-range air surveillance in D-band (L-band), providing target indication to weapon control systems. LW08 presents a clear picture of the environment; it does so, reliably, under any circumstances. LW08 performs with great frequency agility over a wide band, due to its synthesizer-driven TWT transmitter. Excellent performance under various clutter conditions is ensured by the wide dynamic range receiver with application of digital video processing, supported by circular polarization. The LW08 antenna has a low side-lobe level, which assists the system in operating under ECM conditions. The radar can detect a small missile from 100km or a fighter aircraft from 230km flying with Mach 4 while the tracking capacity is 400 tracks. Minimum range is 2km.

The Thales DA-08 2-D radar is a coherent E/F-band (S-band) radar for medium range surveillance, providing target indication to weapon control systems. This radar derives from the LW-08. DA 08 is located on the foremast and it presents a clear picture of the environment; it does so, reliably, under any circumstances with accuracy; and it does it without adding great weight to the superstructure of the ship due to its lightweight construction and hydraulically controlled stabilization platform. Excellent performance under various clutter conditions is ensured by the wide dynamic range receiver with application of digital video processing, supported by circular polarization. The DA-08 antenna has a low side-lobe level, which assists the system in operating under ECM conditions. Claimed range on a 2m² target is 78-92n.m. and minimum range is 0.8n.m.

Pelo que percebo o MW-08 das VdG vai ser substituído, em principio por algo necessariamente melhor - que o "idoso" - SMART-S da classe BD? E, talvez, com um 2D LPI? E com um, também novo, "tracking & Illuminator Radar"? Ficam assim com melhores sensores "radar" que a classe BD? Mas sem VLS e (talvez) Vigile D? 

[Cabeça de Martelo]

Um jpg antigo, para fazermos um resumo das alterações em curso:

The radar should have a maximum calculated range of 120NM (222.24 km) for the detection of aerial targets

KRONOS naval multifunctional radar - Air and surface surveillance up to 250km

https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/18327106/KRONOS+Naval+Radar+%28mm07664%29+2022+2.pdf?t=1671029132841

TRS-4D Rotator - Instrumented range: 250 km

https://dam.hensoldt.net/m/1cc7b53da977b083/original/TRS-4D-Datasheet-english.pdf


TACTAS (MAX weight 10 tons):

  https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/0/ATAS_NR.pdf?t=1685007556352

The ATAS is subdivided into modules of less than three tonnes for it to be easily transferable from one ship to another, although procured initially to equip the PPA ‘Full combatant’ platforms, the first of which is to be delivered in 2024. It has an overall weight of less than 9 tonnes, being composed of a Launch and Recovery System (LARS) less than 2 m high, towed body and array, power and processing electronics cabinets, local console.

The Captas-1 is the smallest member of the Captas family of towed sonars by Thales.

CAPTAS-1 with a typical detection range up to 30 km, for installation on OPVs weighing about 800 tonnes, using a single dependent tow for both the active sonar source and a triplet receiver array with a <16 m2 deck footprint and weighing 7.3 tonnes.

Ultra Sea Sabre

Installation Mass (Active / Passive) - 12107 / 8815 kg

  https://www.ultra.group/media/2522/sea-sabre-datasheet_final.pdf

Há mais radares e sonares que cumprem ou superam os requisitos, eu limitei-me a colocar alguns.

isso é de onde?

O saabGripen deu a novidade que o programa tinha voltado...

Vai ao site da NSPA, pesquisa por "FFGH MLU/OPV SEWACO Acquisition, Install, Integration & ILS" que tens lá toda a informação. Os concorrentes têm até junho para finalizar as propostas.

As VdG recusam-se a morrer e a Marinha/governo recusam matá-las... temos zumbis/mutantes para 200 anos sem problemas!*

Please note RFP Milestone Dates and required documents to be included in bids as noted in the
Bidding Instructions as follows:
Milestones:
1. Bidders’ Conference Registration Due: 30 April 2024
2. Bidders’ Conference: 13-17 May 2024
3. Last Bidder Questions: 2 June 2024
4. Bid Closing: 30 June 2024



* referência a "Fallout".

[RABN]

Neste momento a classe VdG têm os radares DA-08 (2D, Médio/Longo alcance) e o MW-08 (3D, Médio/ Curto alcance); A classe BD têm LW-08 (2D Médio/ Longo alcance) e SMART-S (3D Médio/ Curto alcance), certo?

The Thales LW08 is a 2-D radar system that equips the cruiser, a radar that  performs the long-range air surveillance in D-band (L-band), providing target indication to weapon control systems. LW08 presents a clear picture of the environment; it does so, reliably, under any circumstances. LW08 performs with great frequency agility over a wide band, due to its synthesizer-driven TWT transmitter. Excellent performance under various clutter conditions is ensured by the wide dynamic range receiver with application of digital video processing, supported by circular polarization. The LW08 antenna has a low side-lobe level, which assists the system in operating under ECM conditions. The radar can detect a small missile from 100km or a fighter aircraft from 230km flying with Mach 4 while the tracking capacity is 400 tracks. Minimum range is 2km.

The Thales DA-08 2-D radar is a coherent E/F-band (S-band) radar for medium range surveillance, providing target indication to weapon control systems. This radar derives from the LW-08. DA 08 is located on the foremast and it presents a clear picture of the environment; it does so, reliably, under any circumstances with accuracy; and it does it without adding great weight to the superstructure of the ship due to its lightweight construction and hydraulically controlled stabilization platform. Excellent performance under various clutter conditions is ensured by the wide dynamic range receiver with application of digital video processing, supported by circular polarization. The DA-08 antenna has a low side-lobe level, which assists the system in operating under ECM conditions. Claimed range on a 2m² target is 78-92n.m. and minimum range is 0.8n.m.

Pelo que percebo o MW-08 das VdG vai ser substituído, em principio por algo necessariamente melhor - que o "idoso" - SMART-S da classe BD? E, talvez, com um 2D LPI? E com um, também novo, "tracking & Illuminator Radar"? Ficam assim com melhores sensores "radar" que a classe BD? Mas sem VLS e (talvez) Vigile D?

Se o objetivo é modernizar as VdG para durarem até 2035 (o que é um erro, deviamos avançar para a substituição das VdG nos proximos anos...) e vamos investir em novos radares e sensores, então que se invista num modulo VLS para ESSM. Não faz sentido é investir na modernização das fragatas e continuar apenas com um lançador de 8 Sea Sparrow...

[Drecas]

Um jpg antigo, para fazermos um resumo das alterações em curso:

The radar should have a maximum calculated range of 120NM (222.24 km) for the detection of aerial targets

KRONOS naval multifunctional radar - Air and surface surveillance up to 250km

https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/18327106/KRONOS+Naval+Radar+%28mm07664%29+2022+2.pdf?t=1671029132841

TRS-4D Rotator - Instrumented range: 250 km

https://dam.hensoldt.net/m/1cc7b53da977b083/original/TRS-4D-Datasheet-english.pdf


TACTAS (MAX weight 10 tons):

  https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/0/ATAS_NR.pdf?t=1685007556352

The ATAS is subdivided into modules of less than three tonnes for it to be easily transferable from one ship to another, although procured initially to equip the PPA ‘Full combatant’ platforms, the first of which is to be delivered in 2024. It has an overall weight of less than 9 tonnes, being composed of a Launch and Recovery System (LARS) less than 2 m high, towed body and array, power and processing electronics cabinets, local console.

The Captas-1 is the smallest member of the Captas family of towed sonars by Thales.

CAPTAS-1 with a typical detection range up to 30 km, for installation on OPVs weighing about 800 tonnes, using a single dependent tow for both the active sonar source and a triplet receiver array with a <16 m2 deck footprint and weighing 7.3 tonnes.

Ultra Sea Sabre

Installation Mass (Active / Passive) - 12107 / 8815 kg

  https://www.ultra.group/media/2522/sea-sabre-datasheet_final.pdf

Há mais radares e sonares que cumprem ou superam os requisitos, eu limitei-me a colocar alguns.

isso é de onde?

O saabGripen deu a novidade que o programa tinha voltado...

Vai ao site da NSPA, pesquisa por "FFGH MLU/OPV SEWACO Acquisition, Install, Integration & ILS" que tens lá toda a informação. Os concorrentes têm até junho para finalizar as propostas.

As VdG recusam-se a morrer e a Marinha/governo recusam matá-las... temos zumbis/mutantes para 200 anos sem problemas!*

Please note RFP Milestone Dates and required documents to be included in bids as noted in the
Bidding Instructions as follows:
Milestones:
1. Bidders’ Conference Registration Due: 30 April 2024
2. Bidders’ Conference: 13-17 May 2024
3. Last Bidder Questions: 2 June 2024
4. Bid Closing: 30 June 2024



* referência a "Fallout".

eu sei, estou a falar da imagem

[Cabeça de Martelo]

Ui, não faço menor ideia, talvez de uma citação de uma citação de uma citação... pesquisei livremente no google.

[Visitante123]

Eu no site da NSPA não encontro nada.