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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #75 em: Maio 15, 2017, 10:36:28 pm »
As F125 são a versão moderna das canhoneiras do início do século XX. Têm capacidade de autodefesa antiaérea, e não têm capacidades anti-submarinas, se descontarmos o espaço para os dois helicópteros. São o ideal para andar a passear nas costas da Somália e locais semelhantes  ou para grupo de ataque de superfície ao enclave de  Kaliningrado. As que Portugal utiliza costumam ser mais polivalentes.

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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine) Corvetas K130
« Responder #76 em: Maio 18, 2017, 05:01:23 pm »
German cartel office halts quick purchase of corvettes

https://navaltoday.com/2017/05/18/german-cartel-office-halts-quick-purchase-of-corvettes/



Lead ship of K130 corvettes FGS Braunschweig, Photo: PIZ Marine

The German defense ministry’s plan for a quick acquisition of additional five K130 corvettes has been brought to a halt following a ruling by the German cartel office on May 18.

The defense ministry wanted to avoid an open procedure by buying the five corvettes from the Lürssen- Thyssen Krupp Marine Systems (TKMS) consortium which built the first five ships.

However, the cartel office upheld a complaint made by shipbuilding competitor German Naval Yards, arguing that an open tender had precedence over a quick procurement.

The cartel office ruling is not the first snag in the acquisition process. According to several reports from April 2017, the price for the new corvettes set by builders Lürssen and TKMS far exceeded the one the ministry of defense expected to get.

Announcing the decision to buy the five ships in October 2016, defense minister Ursula von der Leyen said the ships would cost the taxpayers some €1.5 billion. According to several reports, the shipbuilding duo is asking €2.9 billion for the five corvettes and two training facilities.

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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #77 em: Maio 24, 2017, 02:31:00 pm »
Germany launches fourth and final F125 frigate


https://navaltoday.com/2017/05/24/germany-launches-fourth-and-final-f125-frigate/


Illustration: Christening ceremony of third F125 frigate Sachsen Anhalt. Photo: TKMS

German Navy’s fourth and final 125 class frigate (F125) ‘Rheinland-Pfalz’ was christened at thyssenkrupp Marine Systems’ Hamburg site on May 24.

The frigate ‘Rheinland-Pfalz’ is scheduled to be handed over to the German defense procurement agency BAAINBw in spring 2020.

Malu Dreyer, premier of the state of Rhineland-Palatinate after which the frigate has been named, performed the christening ceremony in the presence of high-level representatives from government, the German Navy and the companies involved.

“The German Navy has a long tradition of ships named after the state of Rhineland-Palatinate,” State premier Malu Dreyer, who christened the ship, said. “I would like to combine the christening of the new frigate “Rheinland-Pfalz” with my hopes and wishes that the main challenges facing ‘our’ ship will be peace missions and humanitarian operations.”

The ARGE F125 consortium which was awarded the contract to build four F125 class ships for the German Navy in 2007 comprises thyssenkrupp Marine Systems as the lead company and Lürssen Werft in Bremen. The pre-fitted bow sections are being manufactured at the Fr. Lürssen Werft shipyards in Bremen and Wolgast.

Construction of the stern sections, the joining of the two sections and further fitting out is being carried out at Blohm+Voss Shipyards in Hamburg.

The four 125 class frigates are replacing the German Navy’s eight (Bremen type) 122 class frigates.

The ‘Rheinland-Pfalz’ was launched amid reports that the new ship class is overweight and lists 1.3 degrees to starboard.

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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #78 em: Junho 12, 2017, 11:12:59 am »
http://www.janes.com/article/71058/german-navy-weighs-up-lynx-replacement-options
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The German Navy is currently studying options for the programme to replace the service's AgustaWestland Lynx Mk 88A helicopters, which are primarily used as shipboard helicopters operating from frigates.

Speaking at the UDT 2017 conference in Bremen, Germany, Commander René Levien, a German Navy Staff underwater warfare expert, said that consideration is being given to a mix of manned and unmanned systems, with final numbers still to be determined.

The German Navy’s Lynx helicopters entered service in the 1980s and were updated to the Mk 88A standard around 2000. According to Cdr Levien, the existing engines and avionics will reach obsolescence by 2025. To achieve an initial operating capability (IOC) with the replacement type by 2025, the new aircraft will have to arrive from 2023, he said.

The focus for the replacement capability will be on anti-submarine warfare and anti-surface warfare.

One option is the missionised version of the NHIndustries NFH90 helicopter, currently being introduced by the Germany Navy in a transport and search-and-rescue (SAR) role to replace its legacy fleet of Westland Sea King helicopters. Also under consideration is the latest version of the Lynx: the AW159 Wildcat.

“We are looking at aircraft in a size bracket up to NH90," Cdr Levien noted. "They have to fit the hangars on our frigates." While the NH90 variant would entail benefits in terms of logistics by reducing the number of types in service, the other candidates also bring unique opportunities, including furthering defence co-operation with the United Kingdom.

A UK Royal Navy Wildcat HMA Mk.2 and 11 personnel have been embarked on the German Type 122 frigate FGS Luebeck since April 2017, working with the ship as it conducts German Operational Sea Training (GOST) out of Plymouth


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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #79 em: Julho 31, 2017, 03:25:22 pm »
Germany’s first F125 frigate misses commissioning date


German Navy’s newest frigate and the lead ship in its class, the future FGS Baden-Württemberg, has missed its scheduled July 28 commissioning date as it is yet to be handed over by the shipbuilders.

According to German news site Wilhelmshavener Zeitung, FGS Baden-Württemberg is still undergoing adjustments and check ups.

One the issues the news site reported was the frigate’s operations room from where the highly-automated ship will be controlled. This is a complex system as the 7000-tonne frigate (close to the displacement range of a destroyer) will require only half the crew necessary to operate the predecessor Bremen-Class frigates.

According to the German Navy, the F125 will be deploying with little over 100 personnel.

Reporting on the sea trials of the second frigate in the class, the Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany’s Federal Office of Bundeswehr Equipment, Information Technology and In-Service Support (BAAINBw) in March this year said the frigate successfully completed builder’s trials without mentioning the technical issues or the listing issues Naval Today earlier reported about.

BAAINBw is currently working out problems with the operations room on FGS Baden-Württemberg and the frigate is scheduled to start functional tests by the end of August 2017, the news site quoted a BAAINBw spokesperson as saying.

F125 frigates are a new class of ships set to replace the eight Bremen-Class frigates currently in service with the German Navy.

The navy has developed an alternative crewing model for the frigates with four ships operated by eight crews. The deployment duration for any of the crews should not exceed four months.

New sensor-weapon concepts are prepared for the enhanced flexibility and scalable control-options of the frigates. Almost all weapons on board will be remotely controlled. Passive protection will also be enhanced by automatized surveillance systems.

These ships will be the first ones to run the so-called CODLAG propulsion system. The system essentially consists of electric motors which will draw power from diesel generators. The new ships will carry four deployable boats and have two container spots on the middle deck.

Weaponry will consist of HARPOON and RAM missiles, one 127 mm machine gun, two 27 mm and five 12.7 mm guns. The 150-meter ship will have a complement capacity of 190 persons and a maximum speed of 26 knots.

https://navaltoday.com/2017/07/31/germanys-first-f125-frigate-misses-commissioning-date/

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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #80 em: Outubro 18, 2017, 02:53:21 pm »
German Navy’s lead AIP submarine wraps up three years of repairs

German Navy’s first Type 212A submarine ‘U 31’ is in the water again after spending almost three years in the docks undergoing repairs.
As reported by the German Kieler Nachrichten, the submarine was lowered into water and brought alongside by a tug boat.
The submarine has been in the dry dock since 2014 for both modernization and repair works following the submarine’s 2013 accident off the coast of England.
The submarine was commissioned into service in 2005 and only performed one mission in the Mediterranean before sustaining damages and heading for the dry dock.
In addition to repairing the damages, submarine specialist TKMS modernized the U 31s air-independent propulsion system and upgraded its fuel cells during the overhaul.
The U 31 is the first of six vessels in its class built to replace the now decommissioned Type 206 submarines.

https://navaltoday.com/2017/10/18/german-navys-lead-aip-submarine-wraps-up-three-years-of-repairs/

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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #81 em: Outubro 21, 2017, 07:58:16 pm »
Alemania se queda sin submarinos operativos hasta 2018



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Tras el accidente del U35, del que la Deutsche Marine (Marina Alemana) informó el pasado miércoles, Alemania se queda sin submarinos operativos hasta 2018.

De acuerdo a la nota, el submarino S185 U35 (Klasse 212A) de la Deutsche Marine dañó una de las palas de su timón en forma de X el 15 de octubre durante las maniobras en las aguas profundas de Kattegat, frente a las costas de Kristiansand -Skagerrak es el estrecho frente a dichas costas, Kattegat está entre Dinamarca y Suecia-.

El U35 se encuentra actualmente en el astillero de TyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) en Kiel, donde se están evaluando sus daños.

Según la Marina Alemana, la limitada disponibilidad de submarinos se debe, entre otras cosas, a la falta de repuestos que las arrastradas restricciones presupuestarias han provocado.

Alemania cuenta actualmente con 6 submarinos, todos ellos de la clase 212A; de los cuales la  Marine prevé tener operativos entre 3 y 4 unidades a mediados de 2018.
 

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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #82 em: Dezembro 22, 2017, 01:55:46 pm »
Germany returns lead F125 frigate to builder, report


FGS Baden-Württenberg entering its future homeport of Wilhelmshaven in July, 2016. Photo: Bundeswehr/Dennis Kramer

The German defense procurement agency BAAINBw has reportedly returned FGS Baden-Württemberg, the lead ship of German Navy’s new class of F125 frigates, to the Blohm+Voss shipyard.

According to a report in the German Kieler Nachrichten, BAAINBw has requested Blohm+Voss – which is part of the ARGE F125 consortium responsible for delivering the four frigates – to repair all defects identified on the ship during trials.

This is the first time the German defense ministry is returning a ship to the shipbuilder after delivery.

Defects cited in the news report include software and hardware issues, likely the same ones which caused her to miss her commissioning deadline this summer. As Naval Today reported earlier, there are problems with the frigate’s operations room from where the highly-automated ship will be controlled.

This is a complex system as the 7000-tonne frigate (close to the displacement range of a destroyer) will require only half the crew necessary to operate the predecessor Bremen-class frigates.

FGS Baden-Württemberg has been experiencing problems ever since it was delivered to the navy for trials. In addition to hardware and software integration, the frigates have a listing problem. They list 1.3 degrees to starboard and are overweight, an issue that could possibly complicate future upgrade options.

F125 frigates are a new class of ships set to replace the eight Bremen-Class frigates currently in service with the German Navy.

They will be armed with HARPOON and RAM missiles, one 127 mm machine gun, two 27 mm and five 12.7 mm guns. The 150-meter ships will have a complement capacity of 190 persons and a maximum speed of 26 knots.

According to the German Navy, the new frigates will require only half the crew necessary to operate the Bremen-class frigates. They will be able to stay at sea for up to 24 months and thereby reduce the transit times for the crews. The crews will swap in regular intervals directly in the areas of operations which means that the ships will have to make fewer port visits.

Future FGS ‘Rheinland-Pfalz’, the fourth and final frigate in the class, was launched at thyssenkrupp Marine Systems’ Hamburg site on May 24, 2017.

https://navaltoday.com/2017/12/22/germany-returns-lead-f125-frigate-to-builder-report/

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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #83 em: Janeiro 12, 2018, 12:43:31 pm »
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All Submarines Broken: German Fleet on Forced Leave
(Source: Stern; published Jan 10, 2018) (Unofficial translation by D-A.com)  By Gernot Kramper

 Germany’s six Type U-212A submarines are intended to block the Baltic Sea in case of a military emergency, but at the moment they are all broken down, and being slowly repaired because of missing spare parts. Not a single submarine is ready for use.

 October 15 was a black day for the German submarine fleet. U-35 hit a rock on the Norwegian coast with a fin, and then had to be repaired. So far, the story is not so unusual. But U-35 was Germany’s last remaining operational submarine, and since then, the entire submarine fleet has been on vacation indefinitely.

International reputation

 The navy has six Type 212A submarines. These boats are not huge models like the superpowers’ nuclear submarines, which are equipped with long-range missiles. They are much smaller vessels, but they can travel silently and are very difficult to locate. German submarines, especially, enjoy a very good reputation. In the hands of an experienced crew, which knows how to exploit the currents of the different water layers, these boats are able to break through the defense of even large naval flotillas and attack the enemy's largest ships. The Type 212A is equipped with hydrogen fuel cells, so it can stay under water for more than two weeks.

Problems from the beginning

 In case of war, these small boats are supposed to block the Baltic Sea. But only if the emergency does not happen now. Already, the commissioning of Type 212A reads like a story of bankruptcies and mishaps, as Der Spiegel reported back in 2015.

 Add to this the long duration of individual repairs. The leader in this respect is U-31, which has been out of service since 2014. In December 2017, repairs were finally due to be completed, but it will take months before the regular service starts.

 A NDR report clearly identifies the cause of the problem. Previously, the Navy maintained its own inventory of major spare parts, which were then immediately available in case of damage. The downside of the solution: These spare parts had to be stored and they were paid for if they were not even needed. This stockpiling was ended, for submarines as well as for other weapons systems, after the end of the Cold War.

Eternal spare parts drama

 This is a decision that ultimately led only to additional costs and not to savings. With a VW Golf you can buy every spare part at the next VW dealer. The situation is different for the navy, as spare parts for submarines cannot be bought in water sports supply shops: they must be ordered, and usually custom-made as a special order. This takes a long time and is also far more expensive than if you had additionally built the spare part in the original production.

 Nobody maintains a production environment in the hope of spare parts orders for several years. "This is a disaster for the Navy," the defense commissioner of the Bundestag Hans-Peter Bartels told the NDR. "Submarines are one of their capabilities, and this is the first time in history, I believe, that they have had nothing to do for months."

There are no sailors, either

 The funny thing is that this disaster has no major impact because the German Navy would not be able to use their submarines anyway: there are only three trained crews available for the six boats.

In the context of NATO, the lack of available submarines again shows the readiness of the German armed forces in a bad light. Only a few weeks ago it became known that fewer than 100 Leopard 2 tanks are ready for use. Again, the lack of spare parts is the cause of the failure.

 In the future, the management of spare parts will no doubt be better handled. It remains to be seen when the problems of operational readiness will be solved.

http://www.thefifthcolumn.xyz/Forum/viewthread.php?tid=281

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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #84 em: Janeiro 12, 2018, 04:34:46 pm »
Uma achega, a propósito da falta de operacionalidade alemã: As grandes forças armadas tendem a ser utilizadas por interesses alheios às nações.
Caso a Alemanha fosse forte militarmente, a máfia globalista já a estaria utilizar para os seus esquemas, como atacar a Rússia, por exemplo.
Pensem nisso.
Ai de ti Lusitânia, que dominarás em todas as nações...
 
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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #85 em: Janeiro 13, 2018, 09:10:14 pm »
 
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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #86 em: Janeiro 14, 2018, 12:54:43 pm »

dinheiro a menos não é bom...
mas dinheiro a mais está visto, que também não é bom...
os fiascos que resultam da arrogância de quem tem muito dinheiro está bem à vista...
estas fragatas alemãs, os destroyers Ingleses, os porta-aviões Ingleses, o F-35, os novos porta-aviões americanos provocam perdas colossais aos países...
mais vale os métodos dos passos mais pequenos e seguros dos Suecos, para evitar estes desastres para os bolsos dos contribuintes!...
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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #87 em: Fevereiro 21, 2018, 09:58:24 am »
E continua...  ::)

http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2018/02/18/marinha-alema-experimenta-sindrome-de-lcs-em-nova-fragata-que-falhou-em-provas-de-mar/
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Por Sean Gallagher

A Marinha Alemã tem muitos problemas no momento. Não tem submarinos funcionando, em parte por causa de uma falta crônica de peças de reparo. A Deutsche Marine ainda está voando helicópteros mais antigos do que seus pilotos – o Sea Lynx entrou em serviço em 1981 e o Sea King em 1969 – e atrasou sua substituição. E agora, o serviço enfrenta problemas com os navios mais novos tão graves que o primeiro da classe falhou em seus testes marítimos e foi devolvido aos construtores navais em dezembro de 2017.

Como Christian Mölling, especialista da indústria de defesa no Conselho Alemão de Relações Exteriores em Berlim, disse a William Wilkes do Wall Street Jornal em janeiro, os contratos militares alemães são “um inferno de completo desastre. Levarão anos para resolver esse problema”.

As fragatas da classe “Baden-Württemberg” foram encomendas para substituir os navios da classe “Bremen” da era dos anos 1980, todos menos dois dos quais já foram aposentados. Com comprimento de 149 metros (488 pés) e um deslocamento de 7.200 toneladas métricas (cerca de 7.900 toneladas), as “Baden-Wurttembergs” são do tamanho de destróieres e tiveram reduzido o tamanho da tripulação necessária para operá-las (dessa forma, elas são semelhantes às classes do Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) da Marinha dos EUA e aos destróieres da classe “Zumwalt”).

Como os navios LCS e Zumwalt, os navios “Baden-Württemberg” foram concebidos recentemente, produto das lições alegadamente aprendidas com a “guerra assimétrica” ​​do Golfo e Guerras do Iraque.

Como o Zumwalt, as fragatas “Baden-Wurttembergs” pretendem ter capacidades melhoradas de ataque terrestre – uma capacidade de missão em grande parte perdida nos outros navios pós-unificação da Deutsche Marine. A nova fragata deveria ser um “master of all trades” que levam fuzileiros navais para lançar sobre terra, fornecer apoio de fogo, caçar navios e submarinos inimigos e ser capaz de ser desdobrada em missões distantes por até dois anos longe do porto. Tal como acontece com os navios LCS da Marinha dos EUA, a Marinha Alemã planejava alternar tripulações – enviando uma nova equipe para atender o navio desdobrado para substituir a equipe de serviço.

Era para ser um navio maravilhoso e prova do ressurgimento da Deutsche Marine. Pelo menos esse era o plano.

Em vez disso, a Baden-Württemberg agora tem a indesejável distinção de ser o primeiro navio que a Marinha Alemã se recusou a aceitar após a entrega. De fato, o futuro de toda a classe de fragatas alemãs está agora em dúvida por causa da grande quantidade de problemas experimentados com o primeiro navio durante os testes de mar. Assim, a Baden-Wurttemberg não estará atirando com suas armas em nada no futuro previsível (e tampouco o Zumwalt por enquanto, uma vez que a Marinha dos EUA cancelou pedidos para os seus projéteis de US$ 800 mil por tiro).

Os problemas de integração do sistema são uma parte importante dos problemas da Baden-Würrtemberg. Cerca de 90 por cento dos sistemas do navio são tão novos que nunca foram instalados em um navio de guerra – na verdade, nunca foram testados juntos como parte do que a Marinha dos EUA chamaria de “um sistema de sistemas”. E todo aquele novo hardware e software não funcionou bem em conjunto – particularmente com o sistema de computador de comando e controle do navio, o Atlas Naval Combat System (ANCS).

Construído pela Atlas Electronik GmbH de Bremen, o ANCS é um novo sistema de comando e controle multifunção para as armas e sensores do navio. Destina-se a amarrar radar, sonar e outros dados de sensores (juntamente com informações do helicóptero do navio e dos drones e dos sistemas de controle de tiro de armas do navio) em um conjunto de consoles. O sistema deve permitir que uma pequena equipe de marinheiros e oficiais administre centralmente quase toda a operação do navio e suas armas em estações equipadas com joystick na sala de operações do navio. A Atlas comercializou o sistema de combate como “o sistema para fragatas e corvetas da nova geração”, e a classe F125 deveria ser a grande estreia do ANCS.

Mas a integração dos sensores e hardware de armas com o sistema de comando e controle foi deficiente, no mínimo. Os problemas não foram corrigidos antes dos ensaios marítimos terem começado em abril de 2016, e o Escritório Federal Alemão de Equipamentos, Tecnologia da Informação e Suporte em Serviço do Bundeswehr (BAAINBw), agência do governo alemão que supervisiona a aquisição de sistemas militares, empurrou os testes funcionais dos sistemas do centro de operações de combate até o final de agosto de 2017. Isso ultrapassou a data original de comissionamento programada do navio de 28 de julho. E, a partir de dezembro, os problemas ainda não tinham sido resolvidos para que o BAAINBw aceitasse o trabalho como bem sucedido.

Em cima dos problemas dos sistemas de informação, existem outros: o navio apresenta um pouco de inclinação para a boreste, por causa de excesso de peso e não pode atingir a máxima velocidade com seu sistema de propulsão combinada de turbina lançado pela primeira vez e que combina diesel e gás.

Nada disso deve ser uma surpresa para os observadores de aquisições militares experientes, tendo em conta os problemas que a Marinha dos EUA experimentou com as classes “Freedom”, “Independence” e “Zumwalt”. No caso do Zumwalt, o grande número de tecnologias novas incorporadas aumentou o tempo de desenvolvimento do navio de acordo. O excesso de custos (e uma mudança nos requisitos de missão e restrições orçamentais) forçou a Marinha dos EUA a cortar a encomenda de 32 navios originalmente planejados para apenas três. Os navios LCS tiveram seus próprios problemas, e as novas encomendas de construção foram congeladas enquanto a Marinha busca construir versões de fragata maiores, melhor armadas e de maior tripulação.

Mas para as forças armadas alemãs – que tem sofrido um colapso em seu financiamento nas últimas duas décadas – esses tipos de questões têm um impacto muito mais substancial na prontidão: são um sintoma de um problema muito maior e duradouro com a administração militar alemã. Desde o “dividendo da paz” da reunificação e o fim da Guerra Fria, o orçamento militar da Alemanha despencou para apenas 1,15% do produto interno bruto (PIB) do país em 2016 – bem abaixo da marca de 2% estabelecida por acordo entre membros da Organização do Tratado do Atlântico Norte (OTAN). E o foco da estratégia dos militares alemães também mudou.





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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #88 em: Março 10, 2018, 03:26:28 pm »
ThyssenKrupp blocked from warship tender

Already suffering from allegations of bribery and cost overruns on several naval orders, ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems has now been barred from bidding to build Germany's next generation of battleships.

n ancestor of ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems built many of the U-boats and battlecruisers that wreaked havoc around the globe during the first and second World Wars, and in recent years the firm has continued to supply the German military with warships.

So it will have come as a shock to the country’s largest shipbuilder that it has been barred from the race to supply the next generation of German battleships. Faced with a program plagued by manufacturing problems, including a new warship that listed, the German defense ministry has taken the unprecedented step of excluding a consortium led by the company, part of the ThyssenKrupp industrial conglomerate, from the bidding process.

The decision was disclosed in a notice sent to the firm’s shipyards by the ministry’s purchasing agency. The letter said the government did not trust ThyssenKrupp and its partner, Lürrsen shipyards, to build the new Multi-role Combat Ship 180 (MKS 180 for short), which is designed to operate anywhere in the world, including in polar seas. The agency also said the consortium’s proposed price of €4 billion ($4.9 billion) for four warships was too high.

The decision was a stunning blow to ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems, although perhaps not a huge surprise to outsiders. The firm has been forced in recent months to pay multiple fines for cost overruns and late deliveries on other contracts, and has been swept up in a major bribery investigation in Israel, its largest customer, which has ensnared close associates of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The decision follows an embarrassing comedy of errors involving another new warship being built in ThyssenKrupp's Kiel shipyards, the F125 frigate.

The government’s decision means the construction of the MKS 180s is likely to go to one of two foreign-owned consortia: Damen Shipyards in Holland or German Naval Yards, which is owned by a French-Lebanese businessman named Iskander Safa. However, officials said that because the final appropriation of money for the ships must go through Germany’s parliament, politicians there could still throw their weight behind the German yard and put the contract out for rebidding. The Ministry of Defense did not comment.

The procurement agency’s decision follows an embarrassing comedy of errors involving another new warship being built in ThyssenKrupp’s Kiel shipyards, the F125 frigate. The first version of the ship, called the FGS Baden-Württemberg, was returned by the German navy for repairs to defects after it failed its seagoing trials. The ship had been under construction for six years.

According to the newspaper Kieler Nachrichten, the Baden-Württenberg’s central computer system, which was meant to allow the ship to be manned by only half the crew of similar-sized vessels, had failed to function properly. There were also problems with its radar and the ship initially listed to starboard.

ThyssenKrupp’s removal from consideration for the MKS 180 contract could cost the company dearly. The deal had been expected to be worth around €3.5 billion for four ships, plus a likely follow-up order of two more vessels, bringing the total close to €5 billion.

In addition, once the German order was finished, the successful bidder would be free to sell the ships to other interested parties. “Whoever receives the contract will also be able to export the MKS 180,” one shipyard manager told Handelsblatt.



It is difficult to determine precisely how the exclusion will affect ThyssenKrupp financially because the firm does not break out separate profit figures for its shipyard division. Bremen-based Lürssen is a family owned firm and does not disclose results publicly.

The other bidders also face obstacles, however. For example, the German Naval Yards consortium, which includes Britain’s BAE Systems, has never built a ship as big and powerful as the MKS 180, which is said to be the most powerful warship ordered by the navy since the end of World War II.

It is likely the final decision on the awarding of the contract will be political. It is still not clear who will be defense minister in the cabinet of the new coalition government between Chancellor Angela Merkel’s conservatives and the Social Democratic Party. But their agreement to form a government stipulated that production of surface ships should become a key domestic technology.

https://global.handelsblatt.com/companies/thyssenkrupp-blocked-warship-tender-893609
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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #89 em: Março 15, 2018, 04:11:06 pm »
Damen wants to build German MKS180 ships in Hamburg


A possible design of the German Navy's Multi-role Combat Ship. Photo: Bundeswehr

The Netherlands-based shipbuilding group Damen Shipyards is ready to build German’s new MKS180 frigates at the Blohm+Voss shipyard in Hamburg, the company has told German parliament members.

This is according to a letter seen by German news agency Welt in which Damen, together with its bidding partner Blohm+Voss, underscores the importance of securing shipbuilding jobs in Germany.

The Welt report comes shortly after representatives from ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) and Lürssen, another shipbuilding duo which took part in the MKS180 tender, announced they were excluded from the tendering process. This was reported by Reuters early March.
With TKMS and Lürssen reportedly out of the way, the only competition for the Damen and Blohm+Voss team is a duo made up of German Naval Yards Kiel and Britain’s BAE Systems.

The Europe-wide tendering process for the six ships is expected to be concluded this year. In addition to being late, the ships are already €500 million over budget. Germany initially wanted to order four ships with options for two more but defense minister Ursula von der Leyen announced in February 2017 that the ministry would order all six ships right away.

The 5,000-ton ships are expected to be capable of tackling targets above and below water in addition to supporting land missions.
Armament should feature a 127 mm naval gun while naval surface to air missiles should be capable of hitting targets at a distance of 25 kilometers thereby enabling protection from air threats.
The ships will be equipped with towed sonars for anti-submarine warfare and include sick bays or detention rooms for counter-piracy missions. Additional flexibility would be provided by an embarked helicopter and RHIBs for rapid deployment of boarding parties.

While the planned complement is up to 180 personnel, it has been noted that the number has nothing to do with the designation number in MKS 180.

https://navaltoday.com/2018/03/15/damen-wants-to-build-german-mks180-ships-in-hamburg/

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