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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #90 em: Março 15, 2018, 05:05:08 pm »
daqui a fazer as futuras M-frigates holandesas de Portugal em Vaina do Castelo vai um pequeno passo!...

é só o nosso Governo querer!...

mais o reabastecedor feito cá - isso nem se discute!...

e isto começa a parecer-se com um país decente e digno desse nome...
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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #91 em: Março 15, 2018, 10:05:14 pm »
Há dinheiro para comprar porque ajuda a indústria e cria (ou mantém) emprego. O problema é que depois não há dinheiro para manter operar nem pessoal para guarnecer.
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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #92 em: Março 15, 2018, 11:47:12 pm »
Há dinheiro para comprar porque ajuda a indústria e cria (ou mantém) emprego. O problema é que depois não há dinheiro para manter operar nem pessoal para guarnecer.

se mandarmos fazer umas novas, vendemos as velhas!...é troca por troca!...

se fizermos 3 (ou 4) M-Fragatas (modelo Holandês), vendemos as 5 fragatas velhas...

pelo que li sobre as novas fragatas Holandesas, querem que sejam óptimas na luta anti submarinas e

que sejam boas na luta contra ataques de superfície e aéreos, ou seja, que sejam autónomas...

penso que é isso que também queremos que sejam as nossas!...

se assim for é perfeito!...é só comprar aos Holandeses o plano para construir cá as nossas!...

adequirimos conhecimento e ficam cá os salários relativos à construção dos navios...e várias outras empresas beneficiarão destes projectso!...

mais o reabastecedor, também made in Viana do Castelo e a coisa fica um bom bocado melhor!...

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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #93 em: Abril 17, 2018, 01:15:30 pm »
German Navy acquiring new minehunters


Illustration. German Navy file photo of 3rd Minesweeping Squadron ships at Naval Base Kiel

The German Navy has launched the process of acquiring a fleet of new minehunters for its Kiel-based 3rd Minesweeping Squadron.

A total of eleven vessels are to be acquired, according to Kieler Nachrichten who first reported the news.

The project is still in the early phase, according to the German Navy, and no decision on specific design or capability requirements has been made.

Frigate Captain Martin Schwarz, the 3rd Minesweeping Squadron commander, confirmed to Kieler Nachrichten that the project received green light from Inspector General of the Bundeswehr adding that first units could be ordered from 2022 and delivered from 2027.

The German Navy confirmed that an important requirement would be for the shock-hardened vessels to be capable of operating in mine endangered areas and performing standoff mine countermeasures with unmanned, remotely controlled vehicles.

The new minehunters will bolster the 12 MCM vessels currently based in Kiel. The 3rd Minesweeping Squadron is composed of ten Frankenthal-class minehunters and two Ensdorf-class minesweepers.

https://navaltoday.com/2018/04/17/german-navy-acquiring-new-minehunters/

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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #94 em: Julho 06, 2018, 10:27:32 pm »
German Navy’s only two tankers out of operation


photo: PIZ Marine

The German Navy has been forced to withdraw its only two tankers from NATO operations this year.

As disclosed, the tanker oldies, Spessart and Rhön, will not be operational until the end of this year.

Due to engine issues, both 1974-built ships will undergo repairs in the following months. The completion of repair works is not expected before the fourth quarter of 2018, the navy said, adding that the causes of damage to the ships’ engines are yet to be determined.

Earlier this year, classification society DNV GL decided that Rhön and Spessart no longer met the relevant class rules.

Both tankers have been experiencing propulsion issues since 2017 and needed to abort their participation in NATO missions.

The navy noted that maintaining the tankers through 2024, as it is currently envisioned, is likely to be more expensive and cumbersome than initially expected.

While the deployment activity of the German Navy increased recently, the navy has lacked funds to renew the fleet. As explained by Vice Admiral Andreas Krause, Inspector of the German Navy, the recent incident shows how necessary for the navy is the fleet modernization as well as financing.

He further said that the loss of the tankers cannot be compensated and that “the German Navy has become too small”.

The tankers were commissioned into the German Navy fleet in 1977.

https://navaltoday.com/2018/07/03/german-navys-only-two-tankers-out-of-operation/

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« Responder #95 em: Agosto 01, 2018, 02:28:32 pm »
Germany unveils names of five new K130 corvettes


F260 corvette Braunschweig; Photo: German Navy

Germany’s defense ministry has announced names of the five new corvettes to be built for the country’s navy.

The second batch of Braunschweig-class (K130) corvettes will be named Köln, Emden, Karlsruhe, Augsburg, and Lübeck. They will also be affiliated with their namesake cities.

As informed, the five vessels will be constructed in phases. ‘Köln’ is scheduled to start construction in January 2019, with a keel laying ceremony planned for April 2019.

Corvette Köln will be followed by Emden, Karlsruhe, Augsburg, and Lübeck. The keel for the final vessel is expected to be laid in December 2020.

In 2017, a contract worth €2.4 billion for the construction of the new corvettes has been awarded to the ARGE K130 consortium, composed of Lürssen Werft, ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems and the recently incorporated German Naval Yards Kiel.

German maritime technology firm Atlas Elektronik and Thales Deutschland have been also contracted to deliver combat systems for the five new K130 corvettes. In addition to combat systems, the contract will see the two companies set up and deliver a test and training center in Wilhelmshaven.

Braunschweig-class corvettes were ordered because of the navy’s increased scope and tempo of operations. Another reason is the fact that the MKS180 Multi-role Combat Ship order was delayed and the corvette announcement was interpreted as an offset to the delays.

The German Navy already operates five K130 ships. The second batch of corvettes will be similar in design to their predecessors, with updated technology.

https://navaltoday.com/2018/08/01/germany-unveils-names-of-five-new-k130-corvettes/

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« Responder #96 em: Outubro 02, 2018, 11:15:49 am »
4 Years and Counting: Germany’s New Warship Postponed Yet Again

(Source: RT Russian Television; posted Sept 29, 2018)


FGS Baden-Württemberg, lead ship of the German Navy’s latest F-125 class of frigates, was the first warship ever refused by the German Navy and returned to its builder to fix a large number of hardware and software deficiencies. (Luerssen Defence photo)

It looks top heavy........

German Navy’s newest frigate should have been commissioned in 2014 to replace ageing Cold War-era warships, but it won’t be there until at least the next year due to faulty systems and snowballing cost, local media reported.

Commissioning of the ‘Rheinland-Pfalz’, the lead ship of the brand-new Baden-Wuerttemberg-class frigates, has now been postponed until the first half of 2019, according to Die Zeit newspaper citing a military spokesman. The vessel should have joined the Navy in 2014, but the troubling post-delivery issues plagued the fate of the ambitious project.

The four Baden-Wuerttemberg-class vessels the Navy ordered back in 2007 will come as replacement to the ageing Bremen-class frigates. It is understood they will feature a powerful cannon, an array of anti-aircraft and anti-ship missiles as well as some stealth technologies, such as reduced radar, infrared and acoustic signatures.

Other important features include longer maintenance periods – it should be possible to deploy the newest frigates for up to two years away from home ports.

However, continuous delays mean that the cutting-edge warships – said to allow Germany to project power overseas – will already become outdated by the time they enter service, Die Zeit notes.

The ill-fated F125 frigate made headlines last year, when the German Navy officially refused to commission the vessel and returned it to Blohm & Voss shipyard in Hamburg. This was the first time the Navy has returned a ship to a shipbuilder after delivery.

Little was known about the reasons behind the return, but German media cited a number of crucial “software and hardware defects” that made the warship useless if deployed on a combat mission. Software deficiencies were particularly important as the Baden-Wuerttemberg-class vessels will be operated by a crew of some 120 sailors – just half of the manpower on older Bremen class frigates.

Also, it emerged that the ship is dramatically overweight which reduces its performance and limits the Navy’s ability to add future upgrades. The 7,000-ton ‘Rheinland-Pfalz’ is believed to be twice as heavy as similar-class ships used by the Germans in the Second World War.

Aside from faulty hardware, the price tag of the entire project – including the training of the crew – is also becoming an issue. It is said to have reached staggering €3.1billion ($3.6bn) – up from initial €2.2 billion.

Problems gripping the newest frigates become especially of importance in light of recent warnings that Germany’s naval power is shrinking. Earlier this year, Hans-Peter Bartels, chief of the German parliament’s defense committee, acknowledged the Navy is actually “running out of deployment-capable ships.”

The official said the issue has snowballed over time, because old ships were decommissioned but no replacement vessels were provided. He lamented that none of the of the Baden-Wuerttemberg-class frigates were able to join the Navy.

http://www.thefifthcolumn.xyz/Forum/viewthread.php?tid=281

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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #97 em: Outubro 02, 2018, 11:52:01 am »
isso comparado com as esquias Karel Dorman ou Hazard Oliver Perry mais parece uma ofensa ao bom senso...
mesmo bom para servir de alvo e ser afundado...
ainda por cima a custar uma fortuna e a não funcionar!...
dinheiro a mais e bom senso a menos é o que dá!...


 

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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #98 em: Outubro 02, 2018, 03:22:18 pm »
E se a comparação for com as Karel Doorman e as Oliver Hazard Perry, então as diferenças ainda são mais colossais :mrgreen:
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Re: Marinha Alemã (BundesMarine)
« Responder #99 em: Outubro 02, 2018, 05:46:15 pm »
o que eu quiz dizer é que o navio alemão é um trambolho...grande e pesado e em que parece que toda a tecnologia que lá está não funciona....o seja, pouco mais é que um alvo...se não estou enganado esse navio não tem capacidade de defesa anti-submarina!...e se for esse o caso, é mesmo um verdadeiro alvo...
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« Responder #100 em: Novembro 28, 2018, 01:17:13 pm »
TKMS submits binding offer for Norwegian, German Type 212 submarine construction


German Navy photo of Type 212 submarine U34

A joint German-Norwegian project to procure common-design Type 212 air-independent propulsion submarines has made another step forward as ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) – the preferred contractor on the project – submitted its binding offer in October this year.

As disclosed by the Norwegian government, the two countries’ procurement agencies, Norwegian Defence Materiel Agency (NDMA) and Germany’s Bundesamt für Ausrüstnung, Informationstechnik und Nutzung der Bundeswehr (BAAINBw), received the binding offer from the main supplier on October 30, 2018, and have begun a joint evaluation of the offer.

The two countries will subsequently enter into joint negotiations with the shipyard with the aim of reaching an agreement and signing a contract in 2019. Should all go according to plans, the first boat will be delivered seven years after the construction contract is signed.

Norway and Germany are procuring six identical Type 212 CD (common design) submarines after TKMS was selected as the preferred bidder in February 2017. French submarine specialist Naval Group also participated in the Norwegian tender but the proposition of acquiring the submarines jointly with Germany likely tipped the decision in favor of Germany’s TKMS.

The German Navy already operates six vessels in the class. The same type of submarine is in service with the Italian Navy.
Norway is acquiring four air-independent submarines to replace the existing six Ula-class submarines that were commissioned between 1989-1992. The submarines were designed to last for 30 years and will reach the end of their life in the mid-2020s.
The country has also brought in UK-based BMT Defence Services (BMT) as a consultant in the project.

In addition to the submarine cooperation, Germany and Norway have established a navy-to-navy cooperation, research and development cooperation and a missile cooperation.
The new Type 212 CD submarines will share the low signatures of the Type 212 class but will have extended range, speed and endurance to allow worldwide operations, according to TKMS.

https://navaltoday.com/2018/11/28/tkms-submits-binding-offer-for-norwegian-german-type-212-submarine-construction/

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« Responder #101 em: Novembro 28, 2018, 06:19:31 pm »
Bundeswehr to progress Sea Lynx replacement ‘in near future’
Gareth Jennings, Berlin - Jane's Defence Weekly 28 November 2018
 


The German Navy is looking to replace its ageing Sea Lynx helicopters with a modern type from about 2025. Source: IHS Markit/Gareth Jennings

The German Ministry of Defence is expected to continue with its effort to replace the navy's ageing Westland Mk 88A Sea Lynx anti-submarine warfare/anti-surface warfare (ASW/ASuW) helicopters, an industry official told Jane's on 27 November.

Speaking at the Berlin Security Conference, Dan Bedoya from Sikorsky said that a competitive acquisition document for between 24 and 30 new ASW helicopters is expected to be released by the Bundeswehr "in the near future".

"An AWE [Auswahlentscheidung: selection decision document] is due in the first quarter of 2019," he noted.
The German Navy has 21 Sea Lynx helicopters that it is looking to begin replacing from about 2023. Sikorsky's parent company, Lockheed Martin, is pitching the MH-60R Seahawk, while Airbus is proposing the Sea Lion variant of the NHIndustries NH90 NATO Frigate Helicopter (NFH) and Leonardo the AgustaWestland AW159 Lynx Wildcat.

Bedoya's comments come weeks after Lockheed Martin announced it was teaming with Rheinmetall in its bid, with the two companies signing a letter of intent (LOI) in early October. While the details of the Lockheed Martin/Rheinmetall bid have not been disclosed, the MH-60R is equipped with the Thales/Raytheon AQS-22 Airborne Low-Frequency Sonar (ALFS) and previous Foreign Military Sales of the type have included torpedoes, 12.7 mm GAU-21 (M3M) and 7.62 mm M240 (FN MAG) machine guns, AGM-114 Hellfire laser-guided missiles, and 70 mm rockets that have been upgraded with BAE's Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System laser guidance kit.

https://www.janes.com/article/84863/bundeswehr-to-progress-sea-lynx-replacement-in-near-future-industry-official

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