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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #105 em: Abril 12, 2018, 08:06:11 am »
Another Gottliebsen story from today's Australian

Australia’s patrol boat debacle


 
A Lurssen-built offshore patrol vessel. Pic: Lurssen

 ROBERT GOTTLIEBSEN
 Business ColumnistMelbourne
 @BGottliebsen

 It’s now clear that the government has stuffed up the $4 billion patrol boat tender.

 Normally I would not highlight these sort of mistakes but Australia is embarking on one of the largest naval military ship building programs in the world involving an outlay of around $90 billion — a huge sum for a country that is in budget deficit.

On a per vessel basis we are spending substantially above any other country--- some estimates have the per equivalent vessel expenditure at twice world levels.

 And everywhere you look you find that politics have played a role in our naval spending decisions, which boosts the costs and leads to mistakes.

 It is as though Australia’s defence policy has been based on the belief that there will be no war so we can play political games. The world situation now looks like it is too serious for political games.

 And yet there is also an opportunity. We have a once in a lifetime opportunity to build an industrial base around this enormous program.

 That $90 billion expenditure level is almost as big as that of Japan and Korea and larger than the UK, Germany, France, Italy or Spain.

 Australia is looking at building two major ships a year which is a huge number given the size of our infrastructure.

 Japan is building three major ships per year; while the UK, Germany, France and Italy are each building between 1.5 and two ships a year. The US, with its huge military industrial complex and an industrial base 25 times as big as ours, builds eight ships per year.

 We are in the big league and we planned to start with 12 patrol boats, which theoretically would show the world how good we are.

 Instead it has shown how bad we are.

 Three large groups were invited to tender --- two German companies Lürssen and Fassmer and a Dutch company, Damen. They were all surprised to be told that the first two patrol boats had to be built in Adelaide (the defence industry minister’s home state) and the next 10 in Western Australia, where the government could lose large numbers of seats in the next election. Inevitably that boosted the costs substantially. But worse was to come.

 Lürssen was chosen as the winner and in typical German style they had contracted with detailed agreements so that ASC would do the work in Adelaide and Civmec would undertake the work in WA. The whole tender process had taken around two years because design was involved.

 Then, suddenly, 24 to 48 hours before Lürssen was to be announced, Lürssen was told that it had to include the listed Austal group in its WA operation (Austal had been a partner in one of the losing consortiums). The Germans were stunned. How would this work?

 Only in the worst of third world countries would a defence department pull a stunt like that. But everyone remained silent while defence chiefs claimed the process would be easy. Of course that was rubbish.


 
Malcolm Turnbull tours Austal’s operations last year with then WA premier Colin Barnett. Pic: Simon Santi/ pool.

 Lürssen partner Civmec had acquired Newcastle shipbuilder Forgacs in 2015 and was constructing a vast facility for shipbuilding at Henderson south of Perth. It needed that patrol boat contract.

 Including another shipbuilder for part of the contract would destroy the economics. But Austal had the ear of government and as WA’s largest shipbuilder if it missed out it would not be good for votes at the next election.

 And so now the defence department has appointed a “mediator” to try and sort out the mess it created. This is really third world. Are we going to keep doing these crazies? If we keep it up we might end up spending $180 billion not $90 billion.

 The most obvious WA solution is that Civmec gets paid its full contracted work but only performs part of it, with the rest constructed by Austal.

 Maybe there is a better way but already the cost of the patrol boats has been inflated by contracting in two cities for political purposes and now there is to be another boost.

 This sort of activity is not just a once-off. We are concentrating a large amount of the $90 billion activity in Adelaide, which involves huge union risks. Shipbuilders around the world spread their activities because they can better tap a variety of skills. And for the frigates we wanted the first steel cut by 2020. (Guess why). If we rush the project we have no chance of establishing an infrastructure and the frigates will be simply IKEA flat pack jobs.

 I could go on and write about submarines but that’s enough. The message is clear.

 But finally, if China establishes an air base in Vanuatu (or Timor?) it will base its new generation fighters there, which are far superior to our JSF disasters.


 
The new patrol boats will replace the navy’s Armidale-class vessels.

PS : se tivessem falado com a WS e com a MdG o projecto NPO 2000 sai-lhes muito, mas muito mais barato, mas as LUVAS dos políticos e afins falam mais alto !!!!


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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #106 em: Julho 20, 2018, 04:37:31 pm »
 

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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #107 em: Setembro 10, 2018, 12:07:56 pm »
Royal Australian Navy’s third Anzac-class ship arrives in Henderson for AMCAP upgrade


Photo: BAE Systems

BAE Systems Australia has welcomed the Royal Australian Navy’s third Anzac class warship to its Henderson facility.
As explained, this is part of the navy’s fleet upgrade to keep the ships in service until they are replaced by the Hunter class frigates.

The Mid Life Capability Assurance Program (AMCAP) upgrade is being undertaken at Henderson by the Warship Asset Management Agreement (WAMA) Alliance.

HMAS Anzac’s docking marks a milestone for BAE Systems, where it joins sister ships Perth and Arunta. This will be the first time that three warships have been on the hardstand at the Henderson facility.

HMAS Arunta, the first of class AMCAP ship, most recently had her old mast removed to make way for the installation of a newly developed Air Search Radar System. The new mast is currently being manufactured by BAE Systems and scheduled to be installed at the end of October.

HMAS Arunta will undock before the end of the year after having spent more than 12 months on the hard stand. She will then undertake sea trials ahead of a planned return to service in 2019.
The remaining seven ships will be back in service by 2023

https://navaltoday.com/2018/09/10/royal-australian-navys-third-anzac-class-ship-arrives-in-henderson-for-amcap-upgrade/

Nós também deveriamos ter feito o mesmo ás nossas VdG há uns dez anos atrás, a HMAS tem agora vinte anos !!

Operational history

.....In June 2014, modifications to Arunta as part of the Anti-Ship Missile Defence Project upgrade were completed.[27] Arunta was the second ship of the class to be upgraded, with the installation of a CEAFAR Phased Array Radar and an upgraded SAAB Combat Management System, among other modifications, during an 18-month refit.[27] The ship commenced post-refit sea trials at the end of June[/b



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Arunta_(FFH_151)


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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #108 em: Setembro 10, 2018, 12:54:23 pm »
Estes já vão no segundo MLU às suas Meko e nós, com navios bem mais antigos, ainda nem fizemos o primeiro MLU às nossas. Enfim, prioridades...
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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #109 em: Setembro 10, 2018, 02:01:24 pm »
Bancos e, não são de jardim.
 
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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #110 em: Setembro 10, 2018, 02:19:56 pm »
Pessoalmente já considero as nossas Mekos umas patrulhas oceânicas mt bem armadas, passiveis de ser utilizadas em cenários de baixa intensidade  ... vejo apenas das BD como os nossos navios de "1ª linha" (+ os submarinos) e mesmo estas necessitavam de um MLU (radar) mais completo.

Enfim, talvez o plano seja substituir as Meko a médio prazo por 2 fragatas de uma classe "nova" e o facto de não terem MLU ser para pressionar nessa direcção. 
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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #111 em: Setembro 10, 2018, 02:36:42 pm »
Pessoalmente já considero as nossas Mekos umas patrulhas oceânicas mt bem armadas, passiveis de ser utilizadas em cenários de baixa intensidade  ... vejo apenas das BD como os nossos navios de "1ª linha" (+ os submarinos) e mesmo estas necessitavam de um MLU (radar) mais completo.

Enfim, talvez o plano seja substituir as Meko a médio prazo por 2 fragatas de uma classe "nova" e o facto de não terem MLU ser para pressionar nessa direcção.

É exactamente isso que se fala nos corredores das instalações da Marinha (3 por duas). Agora se é viável...  ::) ;)



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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #112 em: Setembro 10, 2018, 04:42:24 pm »
Pessoalmente já considero as nossas Mekos umas patrulhas oceânicas mt bem armadas, passiveis de ser utilizadas em cenários de baixa intensidade  ... vejo apenas das BD como os nossos navios de "1ª linha" (+ os submarinos) e mesmo estas necessitavam de um MLU (radar) mais completo.

Enfim, talvez o plano seja substituir as Meko a médio prazo por 2 fragatas de uma classe "nova" e o facto de não terem MLU ser para pressionar nessa direcção.

É exactamente isso que se fala nos corredores das instalações da Marinha (3 por duas). Agora se é viável...  ::) ;)



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Porra lá vamos ficar só com quatro Fragatas, se cinco quanto a mim já são poucas........
Se tal acontecer e, como estamos muito curtos de guito, cá para mim, daqui a cinco anos, ainda vamos é comprar as duas M Holandesas, até já trazem o upgrade e ainda por cima são navios iguais ás nossas BD.

Tudo leva a crer que é o que vai acontecer, mais, essa opção é a que favorece a aquisição de novas fragatas só lá para os inícios da década de 30, só daqui a uma dúzia de anos se não for mais.........lá continuamos a empurrar a renovação da frota de combate de superfície, com a barriga, é mais do mesmo !!





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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #113 em: Outubro 04, 2018, 01:32:04 pm »
BAE Systems Australia signs Hunter-class work deal

Jon Grevatt - IHS Jane's Defence Industry
04 October 2018



BAE Systems and the Australian government have signed an Advanced Work Arrangement (AWA) deal in support of the Royal Australian Navy’s project to acquire Hunter-class frigates (pictured here). Source: Royal Australian Navy

The Australian government and BAE Systems have signed an interim contract agreement in support of the programme to build Hunter-class frigates for the Royal Australian Navy (RAN).

BAE Systems Australia said the Advanced Work Arrangement (AWA) agreement - announced on 4 October - will facilitate continuing work in the programme before the signing of a head contract, which is expected later this year.

The AWA covers work on maturing the design of the Hunter-class platform, engineering plans, personnel requirements, and the setting up of infrastructure that will enable prototyping to start in 2020.

In signing the AWA, the two sides also confirmed that negotiations on the head contract are continuing. Talks to enable BAE Systems Australia's acquisition of the ASC Shipbuilding, a division of the state-owned naval shipbuilder ASC Pty Ltd, are also ongoing.

Nigel Stewart, the managing director of BAE Systems Australia's Hunter-class project, said, "This is a very important and early milestone … The AWA demonstrates a commitment by both BAE Systems and the Australian government to ensure timely progress on this critical defence programme."

Australia's Minister for Defence Christopher Pyne added that the AWA is an "important first step" in integrating ASC Shipbuilding into BAE Systems.

"The process of transitioning ASC Shipbuilding into BAE Systems is well under way," said Pyne, "and ASC Shipbuilding, BAE Systems, and the Department of Finance are making good progress in negotiations".

Pyne also confirmed that the head contract will be signed between the government and ASC Shipbuilding, which will become a whollyowned BAE Systems subsidiary on completion of the acquisition talks.

Work on constructing the frigates is scheduled to begin in December 2020 and will commence with building prototypes to demonstrate that the Hunter-class design, shipyard processes, and workforce are ready to commence full-scale production.

https://www.janes.com/article/83557/bae-systems-australia-signs-hunter-class-work-deal
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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #114 em: Outubro 29, 2018, 10:06:58 am »
Royal Australian Navy commissions second AWD destroyer ‘Brisbane’


Members of the ship's company march on board during HMAS Brisbane's commissioning ceremony held at Garden Island, Sydney. Photo: Royal Australian Navy

The Royal Australian Navy commissioned its second air-warfare destroyer in a ceremony held at the Garden Island Naval Base in Sydney on October 27.
While being the second in her class, HMAS Brisbane (III) is the third Royal Australian Navy ship to bear the name.
Her motto, ‘Aim At Higher Things’, encompasses the navy’s core objectives of being a fighting navy and a thinking navy.

Before an audience of dignitaries, family and friends, the Commander of the Australian Fleet, Rear Admiral Jonathan Mead, AM, RAN, welcomed Brisbane to the fleet.
During the ceremony the Governor-General of Australia, inspected the Brisbane’s crew and HMAS Brisbane received a blessing. The Australian White Ensign was hoisted signifying completion of the commissioning. The crew marched onboard for the first time, where they cheered ship, as a mark of honor.

“My crew and I are honored to continue the name and proud history of Brisbane in the Royal Australian Navy and excited to be given the opportunity to realize the incredible capability she represents,” Brisbane’s commanding officer, Commander Josh Wilson, said.

Brisbane will now undergo her test and evaluation period where she will integrate into the fleet and navy personnel will train to operate the warship.

 
The ship’s company of HMAS Brisbane line the upper decks and cheer ship during HMAS Brisbane’s commissioning ceremony held at Garden Island, Sydney.
 
Hobart-class destroyers are built under an AU$9 billion program with ASC as primary shipbuilder and Spanish Navantia as the designer.
The ships are over 140 meters long, have a top speed of more than 28 knots, a range of about 5000 nautical miles and room for more than 200 crew members.
Based on Navantia’s F100 design, the air warfare destroyers are equipped with the Aegis weapon system incorporating the AN/ SPY 1D(V) phased array radar in combination with the SM-2 missile.
The ships will provide an air defense system capable of engaging enemy aircraft and missiles at ranges in excess of 150 kilometers.

https://navaltoday.com/2018/10/29/royal-australian-navy-commissions-second-awd-destroyer-brisbane/

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« Responder #115 em: Novembro 13, 2018, 10:29:28 pm »
 

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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #116 em: Novembro 15, 2018, 10:08:00 pm »
Australia names Sea 1180 patrol vessel as Arafura class
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - Jane's Navy International
15 November 2018
 

A computer-generated image of the Arafura class, which is being built under Australia’s Sea 1180 Phase 1 programme. Source: Luerssen Australia/ASC
Key Points
•   Australia has marked further progress in its Sea 1180 programme with the naming of its new OPV class and the start of steel welding on the first of class
•   The programme’s first of class is expected to be delivered by 2021

The Royal Australian Navy (RAN) has named the offshore patrol vessels (OPVs) that have been acquired under the country’s Sea 1180 Phase 1 programme as the Arafura class.

The name was revealed on 15 November by the service’s chief, Vice Admiral Michael Noonan. Named after a sea in the northern approach to Australia, the Arafura class has been acquired to replace the RAN’s fleet of Armidale- and Cape-class patrol boats, Huon-class minehunters, and Leeuwin- and Paluma-class survey vessels.

The vessel has a standard displacement of 1,640 tonnes, with an overall length of 80 m, an overall beam of 13 m, and a hull draught of 4 m. It can take a crew complement of 40, with accommodation for up to 60 personnel.

Powered by two 8,500 kW diesel engines, the OPV can attain a maximum speed of 20 kt and a standard range of 4,000 n miles at 12 kt. It has been equipped with a flight deck for unmanned aerial system (UAS) operations, and can carry two 8.5 m and one 10.5 m rigid-hull inflatable boats (RHIBs) for maritime interdiction operations.

Each OPV will be armed with a 40 mm naval gun in the primary position and two 12.7 mm machine guns, while the suite of sensors includes the Scanter 6002 air and surface surveillance radar system from Terma, which will be incorporated with the EOS 500 electro-optical fire-control director.

The vessel will also be equipped with a 9LV-based Situational Awareness System (SAS) from Saab Australia.

https://www.janes.com/article/84615/australia-names-sea-1180-patrol-vessel-as-arafura-class

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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #117 em: Novembro 24, 2018, 12:00:03 pm »
 

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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #118 em: Fevereiro 11, 2019, 11:18:26 am »
Naval Group ganha contrato da Marinha Australiana no valor de US$ 50 bilhões para construção de 12 submarinos


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Foi assinado nesta segunda-feira dia 11, um contrato entre os governos Australiano e Francês, na ordem de US$ 50 bilhões de dólares para a construção de 12 submarinos para a Marinha australiana, o que demonstra as ambições deste país no Pacífico. O primeiro-ministro australiano, Scott Morrison, elogiou um “plano muito ambicioso” em uma cerimônia que aconteceu em Camberra na presença da ministra francesa do Exército, Florence Parly, e lembrou que se tratava do “investimento mais importante da Austrália em matéria de defesa em tempos de paz”.

O Naval Group (ex-DCNS) foi escolhido em 2016 para projetar e construir 12 submarinos para a Marinha australiana, alcançando assim o “contrato do século” após anos de negociações. A empresa Naval Group, além de ser a responsável por projetar e construir os 12 submarinos, ela também irá montar o estaleiro para os submarinos. A construção do primeiro começará em 2020 e deverá de ser entregue em 2030. Críticos lamentaram que o contrato tenha demorado tanto a ser fechado, já que as águas ao norte e a leste da Austrália já sejam palco de uma dura batalha de influência entre Estados Unidos, China e as potências regionais.

Pequim tem pretensões territoriais no Mar da China Meridional, uma zona de navegação vital para o comércio mundial. A Marinha chinesa pretende projetar a influência do país para além dessas águas, especialmente no Pacífico Sul e Oeste, onde a Austrália foi por muito tempo o ator dominante. As ilhas do Pacífico são pequenas e menos vitais para o frete marítimo do que o Mar da China Meridional, mas suas zonas econômicas marítimas abrigam grande parte dos recursos marítimos do mundo.

FONTE: https://www.defesa.tv.br/naval-group-ganha-contrato-da-marinha-australiana-no-valor-de-us-50-bilhoes-para-construcao-de-12-submarinos/?fbclid=IwAR0RC3DxGFXXQiSIBtiJdiCFQ5ZRTJl5L4zZefyjSeAcXBHJVsXmGryX9dM

(Da Esquerda para Direita) Diretor Presidente do Grupo Naval da Austrália, Sr. John Davis; Diretor Presidente do Grupo Naval, Sr. Herve Guillou; Contra-Almirante Greg Sammut; Secretário Adjunto, Departamento de Defesa, Racheal Kuczma e o diretor executivo do Programa Australiano e presidente do conselho do Naval Group Australia, Jean-Michel Billig, assinam documentos do acordo de parceria estratégica para o programa do Futuro Submarino.

Ministro da Defesa, Hon Christopher Pyne, (à esquerda), Primeiro Ministro da Austrália, Hon Scott Morrison, (centro), e Ministro das Forças Armadas da França, Srª Florence Parly, assinam o Acordo de Parceria Estratégica para o Futuro Programa Submarino durante uma cerimônia realizada em Russell Offices, Canberra.
 

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Re: ARMADA AUSTRALIANA
« Responder #119 em: Março 02, 2019, 04:20:13 pm »
No entiendo a los australianos, se les hunden los barcos y al mismo tiempo dan premios a Navantia.

https://www.defensa.com/industria/navantia-obtiene-australia-reconocimiento-maximo-equipo
 

 

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