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Re: Marinha da Holanda
« Responder #75 em: Junho 21, 2015, 07:10:03 pm »
Base Naval de Den Helder

Nesta foto dá para comparar bem o tamanho dos novos OPVs com as fragatas classe M

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Re: Marinha da Holanda
« Responder #76 em: Agosto 19, 2015, 07:55:48 pm »
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Holanda despliega uno de sus nuevos patrulleros clase "Holland" en la operación Atalanta

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Re: Marinha da Holanda
« Responder #77 em: Setembro 14, 2015, 11:13:43 pm »
[EVENT]Royal Dutch Navy unveils more exact details of new M-class frigate

The oldest M-frigate that is still in Dutch service, dates from 1993 and will be 30 years old in 2023. Since the service life of the ships was already extended from 25 to 30 years , the replacement is expected to enter service that year.

Originally these ships were planned for the year 2020, but Defense Minister Hennis pushed this date to 2023 in 2013. However the first of these new class will be expected to enter service in 2020, with the Karel Doorman class being retired from 2023.

The project has been dubbed Future Surface Combatant. According to the designers of Damen the ship will be 145 meters long with a crew of 120 people. The frigate will be able to operate at the highest violence spectrum is therefore equipped with both sensors and weapons for air targets as surface targets.

Because the M-class frigates have an additional anti submarine warfare specialization and the LCF's do not excel in this, so will the new FSC herein be equipped.

It is unlikely that mine warfare abilities are added to the ship, because those require very different demands in the platform in areas such as requirements for magnetism.

F827 2020 Beatrix
F829 2022 Van Speijk
F830 2023 Prince Friso
F833 2025 Bernard

Specs

Lenght 145 Meter
Displacement 5020 tons full load
Crew 120
Propulsion  
 2 shafts IEP
 2× Rolls Roys SM 3F turbines
 2x Wartsilla16 V26 diesel engines
 2x Holec Electric motor
Weapon Systems  
 16x ESSM Block 2
 10x Harpoon
 1x RAM
 1x 92mm Oto Melara gun
 1x 30 mm Marlin WS
 2x Hitrole Machine Gns
 2x Twin torpedo tubes
Sensor Suite  
 Thales Nederland APAR air and surface search, tracking and guidance radar (I band)
 DECCA NAV navigation radar
 Thales Nederland Scout 2 (Low Probability of Intercept)surface search/navigation radar
 Thales Python VLF passive tactical towed array sonar
 Thales GateKeeper Electro-optical 360° Mk2 surveillance system
 Thales SeaWatcher 300 active phased array surface detection and tracking radar
 Thales PHS-72 Hull-mounted sonar
Electronic warfare  
and decoys  
 2x Sippican Hycor SRBOC MK40 launcher
 1 × Thales Sabre ECM suite
 2 × AN/SLQ-50 Sphinx torpedo decoy
Supplementary Units  
 1x NH90
 4x Unmanned Service Vessels
 1x FRISC

•Design cost : 4 billion euro's
•Unit cost : 450 million euro's.

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Re: Marinha da Holanda
« Responder #78 em: Setembro 25, 2015, 02:33:04 pm »
http://www.janes.com/article/54800/dmo-formally-delivers-joint-support-ship-to-dutch-navy
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The Netherlands Defence Material Organisation (DMO) formally handed over the 28,000-ton Joint Logistic Support Ship (JSS) HNLMS Karel Doorman to the Royal Netherlands Navy (RNLN) on 24 September.

The ceremony marked the successful completion of the majority of the ship's sea acceptance test programme, a DMO spokesperson said. Karel Doorman will now start its work-up trajectory, with a view to achieving full operational readiness by mid-2016.

Built by Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding yard in Vlissingen under a contract signed in December 2009, Karel Doorman was laid down in June 2011 and launched in October 2012. Before completion the ship found itself in 2013 declared surplus to requirements under austerity-driven defence budget cuts. The decision was reversed by the Dutch government and it officially entered service with the RNLN on 24 April 2015.

Following commissioning, the ship embarked on a nine-week deployment to Norway, Canada, the United States, and the Dutch Antilles where it conducted warm weather trials, and underwater and magnetic signature testing under DMO supervision. In addition to the DMO's test programme, Karel Doorman was used for replenishment at sea operations throughout the nine weeks, transport of equipment to the Dutch Antilles, and successful trials with a Bell-Boeing MV-22 Osprey tiltrotor aircraft. It also participated in the annual 'Hurricane Exercise' ('HUREX 2015'), demonstrating the versatility and potential of the ship, the spokesperson said.

Prior to commissioning, in November 2014 the ship also completed a three-month deployment to West Africa to deliver aid to Ebola-struck countries.


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Re: Marinha da Holanda
« Responder #79 em: Setembro 30, 2015, 03:38:19 pm »
Já agora que se fala tanto numa possivel aquisição da MdG do HNLMS Rotterdam, aqui vai mais esta notícia que já tem nove meses....

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Dutch ... m_999.html

An amphibious warfare ship of the Royal Netherlands Navy, HNLMS Rotterdam, is to be outfitted with S-band active electronically scanned array radar from Thales.
The NS100 dual-axis multi-beam surveillance radar will replace the landing platform dock's 30-year-old DA08 radar system in 2017.
"The NS100 radar confirms Thales's leading position world-wide in naval radar systems," said Geert van der Molen, Thales vice-president of Surface Radar. "Its unique dual-axis multi-beam technology gives the user a definite advantage in modern-day missions."
The NS100 system enables a 3-D cue to be given to both Goalkeeper Close-In Weapon Systems on the ship. The system includes Thales' Scout Mk3 FMCW radar, and an IFF mode 5/S interrogator and transponder.
The value of the contract from the Netherlands Defense Materiel Organization was not disclosed.


The HNLMS Rotterdam was launched in 1997. It displaces 12,750 tons and is 545 feet in length. Its range is 6,000 nautical miles at 12 knots and it can carry more than 600 marines.

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Re: Marinha da Holanda
« Responder #80 em: Maio 26, 2016, 02:56:42 pm »
Royal Netherlands Navy vessels to be fitted with Optimarin Ballast Systems



HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën and HNLMS De Ruyter (pictured here in the Port of Den Helder) are among the ships to be fitted with the OBS. Photo: Royal Netherlands Navy

Ten Royal Netherlands Navy vessels will be fitted with sixteen Optimarin Ballast Systems (OBS) by 2017, the company responsible for the installation of the systems announced May 26.

Dutch Defence Material Organization has awarded three contracts to Golten Worldwide and its Green Technologies business unit for the engineering and turnkey installation of the systems.

Landing Platform Dock (LPD) vessels HNLMS Rotterdam and HNLMS Johan de Witt, the frigates HNLMS Tromp, HNLMS Evertsen, HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën and HNLMS De Ruyter, as well as special purpose vessels MOV Van Kinsbergen, HNLMS Pelikaan, HNLMS Luymes and HNLMS Snellius will all be fitted with ballast treatment systems during their scheduled maintenance periods.

Goltens Green Technologies will engineer and install the UV based Ballast Water Treatment Systems (BWTS) onboard the Royal Netherlands Navy vessels during 2016 and 2017, ensuring compliance with both the pending IMO and existing US Coast Guard regulations on ballast water treatment.

Goltens said the Optimarin’s DNV-GL type approved system is fully compliant with the IMO Ballast Water Management Convention, which is currently just shy of the 35% of global tonnage it requires for ratification, and holds an AMS certificate from the USCG.

According to Optimarin, the ballast system is based on filtration as pre-treatment and high doses of UV irradiation for inactivation of marine organisms, viruses and bacteria, without affecting the normal operation of the ship. Ballast water is UV treated both during ballasting and de-ballasting to ensure the dual UV effect. Ballast water is only filtered during ballasting.

Optimarin further describes the OBS as one of few treatment options that does not use or generate chemicals or biocides in its treatment or cleaning processes.

PS : será que é desta que nos candidatamos a comprar as duas últimas classe M da Holanda ?????
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Re: Marinha da Holanda
« Responder #81 em: Outubro 01, 2016, 10:18:43 am »
Door: Jaime Karremann
Bericht geplaatst: 16-06-2016 | Laatst aangepast: 16-06-2016


The new fregatten around 2025 have ended up at the first stage of the route which must take before to the replacement of current two M-fregatten. Already longer studies are done to the new ships, but meanwhile are themselves the substitute M-fregatten, just like the new onderzeeboten, at the need interview stage. That answered defence today on questions of Marineschepen.nl.



Cos-ordination of future German fregatten, of which the MKS were in the past also kept track of 180 (Right) the Netherlands. But that ship became eventually much too large. Left F125 the fregat, a rare wrong serum in Germany. (Photograph: German Navy)

in November 2013 was already shown one of the designs of the future fregat. Previous year during a symposium also tipje of the sluier were lifted, but the substitute M-fregatten was himself not yet at the first stage of defence material process (DMP). It remained quiet and also previous year summer was there according to the ministry of defence no communicate news concerning the replacement programme.


Today a spokesman of minister of defence answered Jeanine them niche on questions of Marineschepen.nl that the substitute M-fregatten meanwhile at the a stage of the DMP has ended up. There is therefore progress, continued the spokesman, but the need interview phase is still going on. After wind up of this the House of Commons concerning the results of this it is informed and afterwards defence the media will inform. 

That the substitute M-fregatten at the a stage has not ended up means that is certain that the new ships come there also really. Everything depend on the decision-making in the House of Commons. However, it means that there is money now more for research and staff for the project work. At the a stage the emphasis lies then on the need interview. Thus the requirements are formulated where the new fregatten must to satisfy. The phase is concluded with a a letter. That is the first moment that the second Member of Parliament oaths concerning the nieuwbouwplannen can bend itself.


computer co-ordination of the substitute of M-fregat such as that in 2015 it was shown. (Source: Defence material organisation)

little time, little haste
 when minister them niche expects the a letter to send, has not been confessed. Much time is not there, because four (Dutch and Belgian) of original M-fregatten must consider replace the new fregatten. The ships tribes from the nineties are already tijdje to for becoming obsolete and the question is if they can sail also after 2025 still. Even that year is very ambitious, but little haste had in any case made defence since 2013 on the fregattendossier.

Initially the new fregatten in 2020, must be able sail, which were postponed up to 2023 by them niche and in 2015, once more with at least one year. Having regard to the doorlooptijden of projects, we must take into account that the new fregatten just end twenties available to be.

International cooperation
 complicating factor is moreover also the wish tackle the nieuwbouw internationally. That is haste necessary because two M-fregatten of Belgium form and two of the Netherlands one of the pillars of Belgisch-Nederlandse the Navy amen functioning. As confessed these fregatten in the Netherlands are maintained and the mine hunters in Belgium. That is possible because both countries the same have ships.

Just like in the Netherlands is there in Belgium nothing certainly concerning materieelprojecten in the future. Previous year seemed it several keren that Belgium wants take farewell of the fregatten. Nevertheless its both countries now together in search of opvolging of M-fregatten.

Cooperation with Germany was also one of the options. But the future German fregat MKS180, which found also the Netherlands a lot interesting, grew to a ship with a water displacement of no less than maximum 10,000 barrels, three times larger than current M-fregat. That became much too large for the substitute of M-fregat.

Flexible onderzeebootbestrijdingsfregatten
 where now or of think the Netherlands and Belgium, must become clear from the a letter where the functionalities will stand in. Toch is, however, what confessed concerning in which direction is thought if it concerns the new ships.

Partly appears that from the words of the commander of the Belgian Navy, flotilla admiral Georges Heeren, in the booklet Naval Forces of May this year. Heeren say in that Article which is not gezocht to a real multipurpose ship because he fears that the result is a fregat that much are possible, but nowhere real well in is. Moreover such a ship will become too large and too expensive.

In place of it it must be a fregat that high in the violence spectrum, with the emphasis on onderzeebootbestrijding, but that can operate can be also thanks to modular systems very flexible.

The first two requirements also returns in Article energy is a weapon: on gone to energie-efficiënte the schip' in the Navy booklet of September 2015. The authors outline the overall requirements of the future fregat: primary onderzeebootbestrijding (long-term, worldwide and in the whole violence spectrum), secondary maritime beveiligingstaken and granting maritime assistance, robust maintaining against attacks from air, as from sea and as from land. Finally the new fregatten have a small basis crew of 100 function places according to the authors.

Robust maintaining is important for future fregatten, because by the decreasing number of ships the expectation is that entities in always smaller numbers must operate. These fregatten must therefore improve their own protection are able ensure, because there possible no other ships are available.

http://marineschepen.nl/nieuws/Vervanging-M-fregatten-in-nieuwe-fase-160616.html

Peço desculpa pelo tradutor de serviço, mas é o que pode arranjar.

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Re: Marinha da Holanda
« Responder #82 em: Janeiro 02, 2017, 07:51:58 pm »
Royal Netherlands Navy's Future Fleet Capabilities: A Continuation of Rational Thinking

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http://www.academia.edu/30676050/Royal_Netherlands_Navys_Future_Fleet_Capabilities_A_Continuation_of_Rational_Thinking
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Re: Marinha da Holanda
« Responder #83 em: Fevereiro 22, 2017, 04:25:19 pm »
Dutch Navy upgrades support vessel HNLMS Pelikaan

https://navaltoday.com/2017/02/22/dutch-navy-upgrades-support-vessel-hnlms-pelikaan/


HNLMS Pelikaan. Photo: Royal Netherlands Navy

The Royal Netherlands Navy’s logistic support vessel HNLMS Pelikaan is undergoing refit works at the naval base Parera in Willemstad, Curaçao, where it is expected to remain until April 2017.

HNLMS Pelikaan was launched in 2006 in Galati, Romania, and sailed into Willemstad for the first time on 11 September 2006. Her arrival was welcomed by the local population, in recognition of her role in maintaining security and delivering emergency aid in the Caribbean.

The 65.4 metre vessel primarily supports operations and training conducted by the Dutch Ministry of Defense unit in the Caribbean, and also delivers aid and humanitarian assistance following hurricanes and other natural catastrophes. Most recently, she assisted in relief operations for Haiti following the passage of Hurricane Matthew in October 2016.

Dutch company Alewijnse Marine is in charge of the vessel’s electrical refit under a contract signed with the Royal Netherlands Navy.

Alewijnse will be delivering project management services and preparing, installing and commissioning all the new electrical systems and associated cabling on the external decks of the vessel. This includes the navigation equipment, electrical facilities and lighting.

“The Dutch Royal Navy has selected Alewijnse to travel to Curaçao to undertake the electrical refit, which shows the strong trust that they have in our knowledge and experience,” Alewijnse service coordinator Perry Eikelenboom commented. “Alewijnse designed and installed the original electrical systems on the vessel when she was built and eleven years later we have been invited back to take care of the systems upgrade.”

Com onze anos de serviço e vai ser melhorado, exactamente como nós fazemos por cá................sem mais comentários


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« Responder #84 em: Abril 22, 2017, 09:59:41 pm »

 

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Re: Marinha da Holanda
« Responder #85 em: Maio 13, 2017, 05:54:07 pm »
O substituto das nossas "M":



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The current generation of M-frigates is (besides the Belgian navy) also operated by the Portuguese and Chilean navies. All these M-frigates will reach the end of their lifespan somewhere before 2030. Some of these frigates will undergo a life extension. However, the Netherlands and Belgium plan to jointly develop and procure the successors of the M-frigate for their navies.
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Re: Marinha da Holanda
« Responder #86 em: Janeiro 17, 2018, 01:27:22 pm »
Os nossos responsáveis que ponham os olhos nesta Marinha, e façam algo de jeito pela Nossa MdG.
O pdf é bem elucidativo sobre os meios, capacidades e missões da MdG Holandesa.
 
https://www.government.nl/documents/leaflets/2017/03/09/the-royal-netherlands-navy-in-focus

O segundo PDF ainda é mais interessante

https://www.kvmo.nl/images/pdf/2017/Thesis_RNLNs_Future_Fleet_Capabilities_-_W.Veenstra_-_Final.pdf

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« Responder #87 em: Março 28, 2018, 07:00:21 pm »
Navy wins big in Dutch 2018 defense white paper


Photo: Royal Netherlands Navy

The Royal Netherlands Navy, with over EUR6 billion in funds set aside for its acquisition and maintenance programs, is the major winner of the Netherlands defense ministry’s 2018 white paper.

Army and air force follow with little over two and one billion euros, respectively, while 1.7 billion is to go on IT and cyber.

The two most expensive navy programs in the white paper are the replacement of Walrus-class submarines and De Zeven Provinciën-class air defense frigates, both estimated at over 2.5 billion euro.

Contracts for the submarine construction are expected to be awarded in 2021 with the first submarine arriving in 2027. First of the new frigates is set to arrive in 2029.
Multipurpose frigates and mine countermeasure vessels which are being acquired jointly with Belgium are scheduled to arrive in 2024.

Other major programs in the white paper will include the procurement of new mine counter measures vessels, a combat support vehicle and the replacement of two landing platform docks in late 2020s. These two projects, alongside Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile and Standard Missile 2 procurement and integration, are estimated to cost between 250 and 1,000 million.

While presenting an increase in spending compared to the original budget, the 2018 white paper outlines a peak of 1.3% of GDP in 2020 which will still be well bellow NATO’s 2 percent target that is to be achieved by 2024. The Dutch defense ministry noted, however, that the white paper would be revised in 2022 with the aim of outlining steps aimed at achieving NATO’s capability targets

https://navaltoday.com/2018/03/28/navy-wins-big-in-dutch-2018-defense-white-paper/

E se a nossa MdG pensar em ter algumas da De Zeven Provinciën-class air defense frigates, como substitutas das VdG ?????
As duas unidades mais novas são de 2004 e 2005.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Zeven_Provinci%C3%ABn-class_frigate



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Re: Marinha da Holanda
« Responder #88 em: Março 29, 2018, 12:00:19 am »
Já há uns tempos atrás tinha sugerido isso mesmo. Como a Marinha continua a ter nos seus planos uma eventual aquisição de duas fragatas AAW, as Zeven encaixariam na perfeição, mesmo apesar de em 2029 se tratarem de navios com 25 anos. O cenário mais plausível, quanto a mim, são duas para PT e duas para o Chile.
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« Responder #89 em: Março 29, 2018, 11:47:08 am »
Já há uns tempos atrás tinha sugerido isso mesmo. Como a Marinha continua a ter nos seus planos uma eventual aquisição de duas fragatas AAW, as Zeven encaixariam na perfeição, mesmo apesar de em 2029 se tratarem de navios com 25 anos. O cenário mais plausível, quanto a mim, são duas para PT e duas para o Chile.

Para mim  o ideal era virem as quatro unidades, entre 2027 e 2030 para substituírem as VdG, e uns anos depois, lá para 2035 abatermos as BD.
A ser tentado, o negócio, poder-se-ia abordar a hipótese do Rotterdam fazer parte do pacote, e que pacote, pois a ser concretizado ficávamos com uma classe de Fragatas com excelentes capacidades na Luta AA/AS/ASW que, pelas minhas contas, durariam mais uns vinte anos ao nosso serviço, pois deviam durar até 2050 no mínimo !!
Quanto a custos penso que o " Pacote " ficaria por uns mil milhões de Euros mais coisa menos coisa.
O único senão para mim é o facto das guarnições serem de 200 almas p/ Fragata, mas não se pode ter tudo sem custos.







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