Não tem nada a ver com propaganda nazi e não fale do que não sabe. Se lhe aconselhei a Ford é porque é mesmo a melhor e acredite que eu sei do que falo. Mas estou a ver que lhe tenho que fazer um desenho e nesse caso deixo-lhe aqui uma coisinha para analisar e ler com calma para perceber melhor o que eu disse. E isso da propaganda nazi não passa de pessoas que são limitadas de argumentos, é como quando não sabemos dançar dizemos que a culpa é do chão que está torto.
Aqui fica:
1- Minha Luta (Português Brasil)
http://www.wook.pt/ficha/minha-luta/a/id/557502- Leia isto com atenção e depois diga-me o que "aprendeu" ou ficou a saber. Aqui explica melhor tudo.
http://www.hitler-library.org/Mein-Kamp ... oversy.pdf"Mein Kampf has been controversial for many reasons. One of
the greatest controversies has been over the English translations.
We will analyze the various English translations and identify
problems, mistranslations, inaccurate translations, and outright
embellishment. From this we will then determine which translation
is the most true to the original German version of Mein Kampf
and discover previously unknown aspects of Mein Kampf."
Official Nazi Murphy Translation 1936-37
James Murphy created a translation for the Nazi government. He had some sympathies
for their politics and because of this the Nazi propaganda ministry hired him to create the
English translation of Mein Kampf. He worked on this edition in Germany. Over time,
Murphy’s opinions about the Nazi government changed. The German government decided
they no longer cared for him after he made some critical remarks and told him he had to
leave. He left quickly without his translation into English. Later he sent his wife back
and she was able to obtain a copy from his German secretary. The German government
edited and published the Murphy version which was completed for them, in English, and it
was printed within Germany from the presses of the Nazi printing office. Very few copies
are known to have been printed. Some copies were sent to POW camps in Germany for
British and American POW’s. A very rare version of this official Nazi English edition has
recently been re-discovered republished for the first time since it was printed by the Nazi
government. It is very interesting to compare this translation to both Murphy’s later British
translation and to the new Ford translation to see the differences.
This edition had the regular British spellings(James Murphy was British) which were
common for the time, to-day instead of today, and labour instead of labor. However, it
also had many gross misspellings, punctuation errors, and grammar errors. Apparently an
English speaking Nazi Party member took James Murphy’s unpolished translation and
tried to finish it.
Here are some examples of the errors in the Official Nazi Murphy Edition:
For instance, intelligentsia is spelled as intelligentzia in the Nazi edition.
“..the blackmailers that were arrested and gaoled.” instead of jailed where gaoled
is an archaic British term.
“... I was answerd with a triple ‘Heil’” notice misspelling.
“...that we should `look out for ouselves’ and...”
The word disintegration is sometimes spelled correctly and sometimes spelled as
disintregation.
“..would turn out detrimental rather than helpful to the interests of that provincebut through fear of an agreement ment being established between Germany..”
this may be an editing error duplicating the end of agreement or a misspelling of
meant.
“I endeavoured to instil them gradually into the members of the young
organization,...”
“...can continue to play an important rôle in the world only if Germany be
dismembered.” Notice the unnecessary pronunciation mark in the word “role”.
Murphy British Translation 1939
After Murphy was kicked out of Germany and he obtained a copy of his manuscript,
he continued to work on it. He finalized a deal with Hurst & Blackett, but they ceased
publishing the Murphy translation in 1942 when the original plates were destroyed by
German bombing.
Murphy often embellished sections, adding references, and making it into his own style,
not so much in Hitler’s style. Murphy often used long, uncommon words which make the
text hard to understand. Some of his words included fructified, fetters, propitious, milliards,
recalcitrant, ineluctable, loquacious, and other words the average person would simply not
recognize.
Murphy took artistic license in some of these descriptions and even with his German
language skill, he did not fully understand the meaning of many passages he translated.
He captured the general ideas, but the nuance was lost. He added to descriptions to
embellish them, but in doing so, he strayed from Hitler’s style and sometimes from the
meaning. Hitler often was very straight forward, using simple terms while Murphy used
complex words. While Hitler aimed his message at the uneducated masses, Murphy wrote
for the intellectual.
Murphy’s word choices were often taken out of a German-English dictionary which meant
he took the most common meaning, not necessarily the best meaning. For example, in one
place Murphy uses the word ‘devotion’ when the true translation is closer to ‘fanaticism’
Reynal and Hitchcock Translation 1938
Houghton and Mifflin licensed Reynal & Hitchcock the rights to publish their version of
the full unexpurgated translation in 1938. It was translated by a committee of men from
the New School for Social Research and appeared on February 28, 1939. This description
is misleading because some of the men on the committee had nothing to do with the actual
translation. Some of the translation is believed to have been completed by assistants.
The Reynal translation was more of a line-for-line translation. It is true to the original to
a fault. It is translated directly, sometimes in a way that makes the meaning unclear. The
original German sentence structures were often preserved which makes it very difficult
to read in English. Reynal also used many uncommon words. When the translators did
not understand a passage, they simply translated it literally word-for-word using word
substitution.
Stackpole Translation
Stackpole and Sons commissioned their own translation, without securing copyrights. This
was before World War II started so Hitler still had a copyright claim. The entire copyright
story is rather involved but interesting. The short version is that Reynal and Hitchcock
contracted the rights for the authorized version from Hurst and Blackett so they had a legal
claim in the US and stopped the publication of Stackpole’s edition after 12,000 copies were
printed. The Stackpole translation was rushed, it was inaccurate, and many sentences make
no sense at all because they were translated without paying attention to the meaning. It
looks like two different people translated it because there is a clear difference in the writing
styles between first half of the book and the second half based on the pages, not Volume
1 and Volume 2. Very little is known about the technical work of the translation done by
Stackpole. It is just as well that this version was not kept in print because it is one of the
worst translations and is filled with errors. The book is considered collectible however.
Here is an example from the Stackpole translation:
Stackpole translation: The world is ruled by only a fraction of all Wisdom, of
which fraction almost any Ministerial Councillor embodies but one atom. Since
Germany has become a Republic, however, this is no longer true-that is why the
Law to Protect the Republic forbids any one to say or even to believe such a thing.
It says “this is no longer true”, but the original German text and the clear meaning of the
paragraph shows that it IS true. Such mistakes corrupt the meaning of the original writing
and collectively make it confusing and unreadable. The Stackpole translation is filled with
errors, sometimes many per page.
Here is another example from the Stackpole translation. This could have just as easily
come from the Reynal or Manheim too.
Stackpole translation: The further result is, however, that in so doing the danger
of a battle of the defenders of the old State against those of the new seems once
and for all to be diverted. One cannot emphasize this fact too often.
The use of the word of repeatedly creates a confusing sentence. Such choices make the
translation hard to understand.
Manheim Translation
Houghton Mifflin commissioned a new translation by Ralph Manheim which was
published in 1943. They created this new edition to avoid having to share their profits
with Reynal & Hitchcock. They also wanted to offer a more readable translation. It was
a definite improvement over past translations, however it still has many errors and fails
to identify many critical references. It also mistranslates common sayings used by Hitler.
Manheim used footnotes to indicate original German words in an effort to clarify the
translation, however to a non German speaker this is not helpful and a German speaker
would likely read the original German so these notes were not useful. Many items that
should have been footnoted, such as people and places or sayings that were not familiar
to English speakers, were not footnoted by Manheim. When Manheim was unsure of a
word (for example Sheepshead meaning the Bavarian card game), he left it untranslated
and inserted the original German words in the text. His translation contains many German
words and sentences. Some passages are also missing from the Manheim translation, most
likely because did not understand them. I conclude this because the missing passages are
frequently complex statements that make more sense when spoken with inflection than
when written.
Manheim’s mechanical translation style also makes his translation difficult to read.
Sentences are translated almost word for word from German without thought to word order
or overall sentence meaning. The result is a jumbled and disjointed translation which is
nothing like the original book.
The Manheim translation contains numerous typographical errors as well. For example,
one line refers to a battle in “1948” which is long after Mein Kampf was written and
obviously should have been 1848. In another place it says: “It would be a stake to think that
the followers...” which should clearly have been “mistake”, not “stake”.
Ford Translation
This is the newest translation made in 2009. The past translations were mostly rushed to
press with little time for editing and correction. The Ford translation was not rushed to
press and was thoroughly researched. It is the first translation verified by actual German
native speakers. This is the easiest to read translation ever made. It has revealed many
elements of Mein Kampf which were not part of past translations including sayings by
Hitler and his poetic style which were edited out of older translations. The Ford translation
also maintains a high standard of accuracy. If Hitler used a particular word, then that
word was used and not embellished into another word. Every definition was evaluated to
make sure the correct translation was chosen, not just the common usage of a word. This
translation is also the only Mein Kampf ever available as a full length audio book from
www.Mein-Kampf-Audio.comTranslating any work is a major project. Simply understanding another language does not
mean someone can translate a work of literature. It is a very complex process and it is easy
to mis-translate a passage.
Here is an example of a problem in making any translation. In English we use the word
great but it has various meanings: large, wonderful, powerful. It is very similar in German.
They too have many words with multiple meanings which are often interchangeable, but
one meaning is more correct than any of the others. This was a problem in past translations.
The translator would pick the most common meaning which may not always be the best
meaning and this in turn alters the meaning of the sentence, “God is great.” Translated into
another language as “God is big” or is it translated to “God is fat” or “God is powerful”
or “God is extensive” or “God is very large”? All are possible translations and all are
technically correct if you only translate the words, however none of those examples are
true to the original meaning of the simple three word sentence.
These kinds of translation problems are found thousands of times when comparing the
original German to the older 1930’s and 1940’s translations. The Ford translators spent
a great deal of time and effort to make sure the Ford translation was not only technically
correct, but true to the original meaning and intent of Hitler’s words.
It was common to use past perfect tense in Mein Kampf, and in German writing in general,
they would say “the meeting took place” instead of saying “we held a meeting.” This can
make reading seem slow and boring. Many of these instances were changed to be more
active or at least less confusing in the Ford translation. This helps make the Ford translation
easier to read.
Comparing Translations
Hitler’s original sentences contained multiple clauses and long sentences which pieced
together many thoughts in a flow-of-consciousness format. There was originally no editing
to make it understandable, not even in the original German version. Many criticize the
old translations for being disjointed and rambling. This ignores the fact that Hitler was
a speaker and not a writer and he was speaking to the common man. If he had been too
eloquent his message would have been rejected and he would have been seen as a member
of the polished and proper bourgeois. His message was calculated to capture his audience
and he says exactly this in Mein Kampf.
We will analyze the various translations and reveal major problems in some versions.
Some problems in older translations are:
• inaccuracy
• biased word choices
• confused translations
• incomprehensible sentences
• alteration of meaning
• misunderstanding of original meaning
• skipping sections that the translator did not understand
• using uncommon and archaic wordsMEIN KAMPF
• removing style elements of Hitler's speech
• embellishment by the translator
• replacing inciting words with more casual words
• replacing idioms or expressions with inaccurate English versions
• removing idioms or expressions and losing their meaning
• mistranslating idioms
• using unfamiliar names or places without explanation
• misunderstanding references to places or people resulting in incorrect or
confusing passages.
The Ford Translation
You cannot criticize a work if you cannot read it. You cannot support a work if you cannot
understand it. Past translations omitted or softened passages which clearly revealed Hitler’s
policy and goals. Confusing sentences in older translations, uncommon words, and a poor
understanding of the underlying meaning, all combined to obscure the original thoughts
Hitler loudly expressed in his prison cell. To truly understand Hitler requires a Mein Kampf
translation that can be understood by the average person.
More people than ever are discussing Mein Kampf on the Internet, but very few of them
have actually read it. They assume they know what it contains. Some express opinions
without understanding what they are so violently against. Most Nazi sympathizers claim
allegiance to the book but cannot quote a single line from it. Neither person can explain
why they have strong emotions and a strong point of view because they have no idea what
is actually in Mein Kampf.
All they can say is that they know Mein Kampf is bad or good because they believe that is
what they should believe. If you want a reason to dislike or like Mein Kampf, then read it.
Then you can justify your claims.
The lack of an audio version limited the availability of Mein Kampf to the average, busy
person. Mein Kampf is now available to many more people in an audio format and the Ford
translation is the only complete audio version with 30 hours of audio as well as a printed
book version.
This version takes into account the many updates and corrections made throughout the
printing history of the original German version. There were passages which were made
clearer, some were omitted for various reasons (if they were important then they are
preserved in this edition, if they were unnecessary restatements they were omitted to match
the official version).
The line by line mechanical translations of the past lack the original passion that drove
Hitler and swayed the emotions of the German people. The older translations, which were
translated in a mechanical way, clearly missed the point of many passages in Mein Kampf.
They mistranslated references, and even edited out jokes because they failed to realize
Hitler was making a joke.
Many sentences were clarified to make them understandable in the Ford translation. A
number of original German sentences were written in a shorthand form that is common
in speaking but confusing in writing. When we speak, we often make assumptions about
the subject of the sentence or even the verb which is perfectly clear with inflection or
hand gestures or based on the situation. However, in writing some of these sentences,
which were dictated by Hitler, seem to make no sense. Only after careful analysis can their
meaning be determined. These shorthand sentences were often omitted in older translations.
The translators could not understand what was being said so they left them out. The Ford translation has restored these sentences.
The older translations also included obscure historical references which were not explained.
These are explained in the Ford translation. For example, when Hitler says “We will finish
what was started 600 years ago!” What does that mean? The old translations do not say
and the reader is left confused. The Ford translation includes notes which explain such
references. Without this clarification, modern readers would be unable to understand most
of the references to people and places, and many other seemingly obscure sayings which
had meaning to the people of the time but are uncommon today. Here is the passage from
the Ford Translation with the explanation inserted.
We will begin our work where it was left off six hundred years ago.(A reference
to the Old Prussia of the 13th and 14th century when Teutonic Knights conquered
regions and brought in ethnic Germans.)
Here is another example showing how historical notes make the meaning clearer in the
Ford translation:
Therefore finding men from this group who were ready to sacrifice their own lives
in the service of the new ideal was Love’s Labor Lost, it was impossible. (Love’s
Labor Lost is the title of a Shakespeare comedy which came from a Greek poem
that says “To do good to one’s enemies is love’s labor lost” doing good to your
enemies is futile, and here is meant as an expression of futility.)
You can see how the note in parentheses helps the reader understands the reference. Some
of the older translations did not recognize the reference and translated in such a way that
the phrase “Love’s labor lost” was not even included. Without this explanation most people
would have no idea what the reference was. Even if they looked it up, they would still
not know what it meant. This is an example of how the Ford translation has improved the
understandability of Mein Kampf. Also notice how the Ford translation not only used the
phrase correctly, but it includes a plain English version (“it was impossible”) right in the
sentence to make it extra clear what is being said.
The older translations included many obscure references to names and places such as the
following example. In older translations the name Dorten is not identified except to give
his last name. Any average reader would have no idea who this refers to or what it means
in context. The Ford translation gives a full account of such references to make the text
clear. This is not just a generic historic reference where the person’s name is listed with
their birth/death and a few words about them. No, the Ford translation includes a complete
description AS IT APPLIES TO THE REFERENCE. That means that you are not given
generic information but specific information that explains what the reference means in the
sentence where it us used.
Many of these references were well known at the time but have faded into history. Most
Readers of 1927 knew what they meant, but their names are unknown to modern readers,
even in Germany. Here is the passage from the Ford translation with an explanation that matches the context:
I considered and still consider those organizers to be traitors even to this day.
They were hired and paid for by France. In the case of Dorten, history has already
passed judgment. (Hans Adam Dorten, attempted a non-violent putsch in the
German city of Mainz which was unsuccessful and resulted in an arrest warrant
for treason. He took refuge in the French occupied Rhineland, the name for the
area on both sides of the Rhine river, and formed a political party there supported
by the French, however, due to his treason indictment, the other political parties
looked down on the new party.)
You can see how the Ford translation explains who Dorten is plus what the reference in
Mein Kampf actually refers to.
The Ford translation of Mein Kampf opens the work up to a much broader audience.
The availability in an audio format also makes it available to more people who want to
understand the mind that created the Nazi movement but are unwilling to read such a long
book.
E se puseres de lado essas tretas da propaganda e ideias pré-concebidas irás aprender um pouco de história, porque o livro é histórico e político, tenho dezenas de livros sobre Hitler, Franco, Salazar, Mussolini e Estaline e isso não faz de mim nazi nem comunista, isso é tudo ideias que vos põem na cabeça, pois eu penso por a minha.
Curiosidades:
Mein Kampf has approximately 245,244 words total (this number is from the Ford
Translation which will be used in all statistics).
Word Occurrence Counts:
• The word Jew or Jewish or Jewry is used 547 times
• negro appears 20 times
• nigger does not appear at all
• Marxist appears 135 times
• populist(meaning racialist) appears 98 times
• race appears 339 times
• political appears 447 times
• France appears 129 times
• war appears 450 times
• hero appears 103 times
