Algeria concludes deal to buy frigates, helicopters from Italy - paperSep 16, 2009 (BBC Monitoring via COMTEX) --[Report by Bouallam Ghamrasah in Algiers: "Algeria Concludes Deal With Italy To Buy Frigates and Helicopters"]Algeria will get in 2011 modern warships equipped with American anti-submarine missiles following a deal with Italy worth 4 billion euros. The deal replaces a similar agreement with France which Algeria decided to cancel because of negotiations between Paris and Rabat to sell FREMM frigates. Algeria concluded another deal with Italy to sell 100 helicopters.An Algerian source acquainted with military affairs told "Al-Sharq al-Awsat" that a high-level delegation from the Defence Ministry is in Italy since last Saturday to inspect the workshop manufacturing the six frigates which Algeria demanded at the end of last year after cancelling a similar deal with France. The reason is an agreement which Paris signed with Rabat to sell it the same frigates. The competition between Algeria and Morocco to acquire the most modern arms and military equipment is not a secret to observers of the region. Despite the Algerian-French disagreement over what was called "Rabat's intrusion in the negotiations", many military agreements projects in the military field are still ongoing and were the result of President Nicolas Sarkozy's visit to Algeria at the end of 2007.The same source said the Defence Ministry's delegation held during the visit, which ends on Saturday, meetings with senior officials in the Italian Defence Ministry, most notably General Aldo Schiralli, the ministry's secretary general, and Naval Forces Commander Admiral Andrea Camprelgheri [names transliterated as published]. The delegation inspected the workshop where the "FREMM" frigates are built in Pisa, northwest of Italy, and talked to officials from "Fincantieri" group which is building them at its headquarters in Trieste, the Alps Mountains on the border with Slovenia. Within the framework of cooperation with Italy, the Algerian security forces will be provided soon with 100 "109-A", "LUH" and "AW 139" helicopters made by the "AgustaWestland" Company under a bilateral agreement that was revealed during the Algerian delegation's visit to Italy.According to the source, the value of the "FREMM" frigates deal is 4 billion euros while that of the helicopters deal is not known as it comes under the "modernization of the armed forces" programme which started in 2002 and which involves equipping all branches of the Algerian army which received early this year a squadron of the modern Russian-made "Sukhoi 30" aircraft in accordance with a $7 billion deal concluded in 2006. The source referred to "US reservations in principle" about selling the frigates equipped with US equipment.In a manifestation of the Defence Ministry delegation's visit, an official in the Algerian Navy announced yesterday [15 Sep] the start of exercises off the Italian coasts between 18 and 25 September. The exercises will be held within the framework of the 5+5 Euro-Mediterranean group and military cooperation between Algeria and Italy.Source: Al-Sharq al-Awsat website, London, in Arabic 16 Sep 09
La France toujours en lice pour vendre des FREMM à l'AlgérieLa France est toujours en course pour vendre des frégates du type FREMM à l'Algérie. « C'est un sujet qui est sur la table », a expliqué aux journalistes algériens l'ambassadeur de France à Alger. Selon la presse algérienne, trois frégates, dont au moins une à vocation anti-sous-marine, seraient en jeu. Pour le quotidien TSA, une éventuelle annonce de conclusion du contrat pourrait intervenir « lors de la visite du président Abdelaziz Bouteflika à Paris dans les prochaines semaines ». Le journal explique le gouvernement algérien souhaite mener ce programme en transfert de technologie, c'est-à-dire en réalisant les bâtiments dans ses propres chantiers. DCNS, concepteur des FREMM, peut d'ailleurs proposer ses services pour mettre à niveau l'outil industriel local.Le groupe naval français, qui réalisera 11 FREMM pour la Marine nationale, a vendu une frégate de ce type au Maroc. La France espère également placer de 4 à 6 FREMM en Grèce et autant de navires en Arabie Saoudite. D'autres marines pourraient être intéressées par la frégate française de nouvelle génération. On pense par exemple au Brésil ou au Canada.Face au produit français, on trouve notamment l'Américain Lockheed Martin et son LCS, l'Espagnol Navantia et le F100, l'Allemand TKMS avec la F125 ou encore l'Italien ORIZZONTE (Fincantieri/Finmeccanica) avec sa propre version de la FREMM.
Agora vcs já têm desculpa para mais umas 5 F-100
una fornitura militare dall'Italia all'Esercito algerino che comprende 6 fregate
Meko?Citar una fornitura militare dall'Italia all'Esercito algerino che comprende 6 fregate onde leste Meko, old?
Algeria Switching Frigate Order, Buying Helicopters from Italy?20-Sep-2009 20:07 EDTAccording to London’s Asharq Al-Awsat, Algeria has shifted negotiations for 6 FREMM multirole frigates from France’s DCNS to Italy’s Fincantieri, while negotiating a contract with AgustaWestland for about 100 helicopters. The paper reports that Algeria will receive the frigates in 2011:”...equipped with American anti-submarine missiles following a deal with Italy worth 4 billion euros. The deal replaces a similar agreement with France…. Algeria concluded another deal with Italy to sell 100 helicopters.”ASROC on board could become an issue, however. As for the helicopters…(...)In October 2007, “Morocco to Buy a French FREMM Frigate” announced a confirmed agreement to buy one of the EUR 500 million multi-role frigates, making Morocco the first confirmed international customer. Its rival Algeria had also indicated intent to buy 4-6 French FREMM frigates in 2007, but had not concluded a contract.While the Algerian contract shift is described in Asharq Al-Awsat as punishment for an Moroccan contract placed 2 years ago, the time delay lends credence to interpretations that it’s a response to deadlocked negotiations, en route to a final deal.Italian FREMM frigates are broadly similar to the French designs, but with an Italian Empar radar (instead of the French Herakles) and different mast, along with Italian electronics and Otomat/ Marte anti-ship missiles (instead of French Exocets). MBDA’s Aster 15 missiles are the main air defense armament for French and Italian ships alike, and the FREMM air defense variant can reportedly be armed with longer range Aster 30s as well.With respect to American anti-submarine missiles (VL-ASROC), Asharq Al-Awsat refers to an “Algerian source acquainted with military affairs” who referred to “US reservations in principle” about selling the frigates equipped with US equipment. If that’s true, MBDA’s MILAS system is based on the Otomat/Teseo anti-ship missile, offering similar capabilities without VL-ASROC’s vertical-launch flexibility.
