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Guerra Fria
« em: Junho 18, 2007, 11:21:53 pm »
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Synopsis of this 'Inside the Ring' report, plus additional details:

A Soviet Echo-II attack submarine torpedoed the USS Scorpion, killing all 99 crew on May 22, 1968 in the Eastern Atlantic Ocean.
US Navy traitor John A. Walker, Jr. provided the codes needed for the Soviets to track and kill the USS Scorpion.



This attack was Soviet retaliation for "overaggressive" US ASW efforts in the loss of Soviet nuclear-armed Golf-II class submarine, the 'K-129', and all 98 crew aboard on March 8, 1968.  (The Soviets claimed the Skate-class USS Swordfish (SSN-579) had collided with the K-129 which resulted in her sinking 150 miles northwest of Oahu, Hawai'i.)

Both incidents occured during the administration of U.S. President Lyndon Baines Johnson and the Soviet Premiership of Alexei Nikolayevich Kosygin.

http://www.gertzfile.com/gertzfile/InsidetheRing.html

Submarine secrets
A new book by veteran defense reporter Ed Offley sheds light on one of the secrets of the not-so Cold War: the loss of the nuclear attack submarine USS Scorpion and its 99-man crew in the eastern Atlantic on May 22, 1968.

"The Scorpion sinking is not a mystery," Mr. Offley said in an interview.
"It is a Cold War secret that has been buried by both the U.S. and Soviet governments since 1968."

Mr. Offley said the Scorpion was attacked by a torpedo fired by a Soviet submarine during an underwater battle, two months after the loss of the Soviet Golf-II-class submarine K-129 and all hands.
Moscow had blamed that loss on overaggressive U.S. anti-submarine warfare efforts.

"What my findings demonstrate is that the Cold War at sea in 1968 erupted into overt hostilities that killed 99 American sailors and another 98 Russians, and could have easily sparked a superpower clash," he said. "I have attempted to provide the surviving relatives of the Scorpion crew that full accounting that they have been denied for the past 39 years."

According to his book, "Scorpion Down: Sunk by the Soviets, Buried by the Pentagon: The Untold Story of the USS Scorpion," the submarine did not blow itself up through an internal mishap or mechanical failure, as the official inquiry stated.

 The evidence uncovered in the book revealed that the Scorpion was engaged in surveillance of a Soviet navy formation that included an Echo-II-class attack submarine. The Soviets had been alerted to the Scorpion's spy mission through the case of Navy radioman John A. Walker Jr., who provided Moscow with secret communications codes that let them track the Scorpion.

Another key piece of evidence is underwater sound recordings from sound surveillance system (SOSUS) sensors heard by two sailors that depicted "an underwater dogfight" between the Scorpion and a Soviet submarine "that ended when the Soviet torpedoed the American sub," Mr. Offley said.
"I interviewed both the student and his senior instructor on the record in detail, and both confirmed this incident; the tape had come from a fleet SOSUS unit and had apparently eluded a Navy-wide search and seizure of all Scorpion evidence by the Office of Naval Intelligence within days of the sinking on May 22," he said.


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« Responder #1 em: Junho 18, 2007, 11:24:12 pm »
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The cold war beneath the sea.
In May 1968, submarine specialist John Craven, then chief scientist of the navy's special projects office, had just crossed into Virginia from Washington, D.C., on his way home from work when he heard an alarming news report on the radio. The USS Scorpion, a submarine, was missing in the ocean with 99 men on board. On hearing the news, Craven writes, "I immediately turned my car around and headed for the war room of the Pentagon." Amazingly, the loss of the Scorpion coincided with the disappearance of a Soviet submarine."

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Submarines and the Cold War

That terrible War we feared never came. America's leaders placed special trust and confidence in the Submarine Force, who went to sea entrusted with weapons of incredible destructive power, propelled by power plants of unbelievable sophistication, armed for Armageddon, while charged with the solemn responsibility of preventing it.

U.S. strategy during the Cold War relied on our ability to dominate the seas. This strategy required naval forces capable of projecting power to deter and prevent conflict, and when required, to fight and win. Undersea superiority was a vital aspect of this strategy, and for this reason our submarines were key elements of U.S. forces.

Throughout the Cold War, a cornerstone of national security was deterrence. SSBNs were the preeminent and survivable leg of the strategic triad that was instrumental in deterring global nuclear war for half a century. Lurking in the ocean depth, anyplace around the globe, and capable of retaliation to an enemy attack on America, SSBNs carried over half of our nations strategic warheads at less than 20% of the total costs.

Deterrence of war has been the sole mission for the SSBN since its inception in 1960. It was on a November day in 1960 that the GEORGE WASHINGTON left Charleston on that first patrol - at the height of the Cold War. We were all on guard against a belligerent, nuclear-armed Soviet Union.

Attack submarines, SSs and SSNs, deployed to every region of the world during the Cold War, operating in the open ocean, in choke points and narrow waterways, and under the arctic ice. The U.S. dearly dominated the undersea environment and the Soviets knew it - such that the attack boats were also a deterrent force.

Cold War submarines made over 3,500 strategic deterrent patrols and uncounted surveillance and barrier patrols. In addition, during the major campaigns in this war such as Korea and Vietnam, submarines made many offensive, defensive, and special operations patrols. Submariners of the cold war were in constant jeopardy. Each patrol was a gamble in fate. You not only had to deal with the enemy, you also had to deal with deteriorating equipment that the Navy refused to upgrade or repair. It is a miracle in itself that the ill-fated Scorpion was the only boat lost during that era.

Only after the loss of the Scorpion that the defense department finally started allocating funds to update sub-safe on the older boats. No one knows for sure what happened to cause her to be lost, but it will always be in my mind that the non working emergency systems were the final cause of her demise. I'm sure other factors were involved that caused the tragedy to begin with, however if you have no emergency systems that work, what are your chances of survival?
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« Responder #2 em: Setembro 04, 2007, 01:49:43 pm »
Secreta britânica nunca considerou George Orwell comunista

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Os serviços secretos britânicos, MI5, que durante mais de 20 anos mantiveram sob vigilância o escritor George Orwell, não chegaram a considerá-lo comunista, refutando assim as conclusões da Scotland Yard, segundo documentos hoje divulgados.
O MI5 pôs em questão as conclusões da Secção Especial da Scotland Yard (polícia britânica), na avaliação da qual o autor de «1984» «tinha ideias comunistas muito avançadas».

Procurando esclarecer o que se pretendia dizer com «ideias comunistas muito avançadas», um agente do MI5 foi informado de que a expressão tinha sido adoptada por um oficial da Scotland Yard que não conseguira qualificar com outras palavras o comportamento anti-conformista de Orwell.

Por entender que o escritor não representava qualquer perigo para a segurança nacioal, o MI5 não se opôs a que ele trabalhasse em 1943 como correspondente do Sunday Observer no quartel-general aliado no Norte de África.

Num documento com data de Janeiro de 1942, constante do arquivo dos serviços secretos britânicos, a Secção especial da Scotland Yard escreveu que Orwell - nome literário de Eric Blair - tinha sido visto com frequência em reuniões comunistas.

«Veste-se de uma forma boémia, tanto no escritório como durante as horas de ócio», referia o documento.

Também em 1942, o MI5 contestou o parecer da polícia britânica, escrevendo num relatório que as «recentes obras» de Orwell mostram «claramente que ele não aprova o Partido Comunista, do mesmo modo que o Partido não o aprova a ele».

O MI5 citava, nomeadamente, o ensaio «O Leão e o licorne», um ensaio escrito em 1940 em que Orwell realça os méritos de «um socialismo inglês» democrático, oposto ao modelo soviético e que manteria no seu lugar a família real britânica.

Noutro relatório dos serviços secretos, datado de 1929, assinalava-se: «[Orwell] passa o tempo a ler jornais, entre os quais L´Humanité ( jornal do Partido comunista francês), mas até agora não o vimos misturar-se com comunistas em Paris».

Alguns anos mais tarde, em 1942, os mesmos serviços descreviam o autor de «O Triunfo dos porcos» como «alguém com algo de anarquista e que mantém contactos com elementos extremistas», mas não é nada que se pareça com «um comunista ortodoxo».

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« Responder #5 em: Abril 20, 2019, 09:04:07 pm »
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On this day: 41 years ago, a Soviet IA-PVO Su-15 "Flagon", flown by Captain Alexander Bosov, attacked Korean Air Lines’ Flight 902 near Murmansk, Russia (April 20, 1978). Bosov’s attack crippled the Boeing 707, forcing it to crash land on the frozen Lake Korpijärvi near the Finnish border. Fortunately, 107 of the 109 people on board survived the crash.



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« Responder #6 em: Maio 20, 2019, 11:24:23 am »
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Operation Mount Hope III: That time U.S. used MH-47D Chinooks helicopter to steal a Russian Mil Mi-25 “Hind-D” helicopter

An opportunity for such a look finally presented itself in the form of the discovery of a Libyan Mi-25 left behind in Chadian territory in 1987. In April 1987, a retreating, fully armed Libyan Air Force Mi-25 was captured by French and Chadian military troops after the crew abandoned the helicopter. The Hind was put in storage in Ouadi Doum.

The CIA, after confirming that such a helicopter did indeed exist at that particular location, quickly set its sights on recovering the helicopter. They decided to do it through covert operation.



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"Nunca, no campo dos conflitos humanos, tantos deveram tanto a tão poucos." W.Churchil

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« Responder #7 em: Julho 30, 2019, 11:16:10 pm »

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On this day: 49 years ago, a squadron-size force of MiG-21MFs flown by elite Russian pilots was ambushed by Israeli Mirage-IIIs and F-4 Phantoms near the Egyptian city of Suez (July 30, 1970). Five MiGs were destroyed for zero Israeli losses. Code named Operation Rimon 20, this was the first (and the last) time, Soviet pilots tangled with Israeli aircraft in the Middle East.

Fonte: Air Power

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« Responder #8 em: Outubro 23, 2019, 12:09:35 am »

Simulação de uma ofensiva Soviética na Europa em 1983.
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Re: Guerra Fria
« Responder #9 em: Fevereiro 06, 2020, 01:50:28 am »
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Re: Guerra Fria
« Responder #13 em: Setembro 16, 2020, 08:36:36 am »
Sabiam que até 1990, o governo da RFA considerava este mapa com as fronteiras de 1937, o "verdadeiro" mapa da Alemanha, e isso era inclusive ensinado nas escolas?



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