LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS

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Re: LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
« Responder #30 em: Outubro 21, 2017, 10:19:06 am »
http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2017/10/18/hms-sheffield-reveladas-as-falhas-que-levaram-ao-afundamento-nas-falklands/
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Relatório secreto revelado sobre o desastre mostra que os oficiais ficaram “hipnotizados” pela visão do míssil chegando e não conseguiram acionar o alarme

Por Ian Cobain

O catálogo de erros e falhas que terminou no naufrágio de um destróier da Royal Navy durante a guerra das Malvinas foi revelado depois de ter estado encoberto por 35 anos.

Vinte pessoas morreram e 26 ficaram feridas quando HMS Sheffield foi atingido por um míssil Exocet argentino durante os primeiros dias do conflito de 1982. Foi o primeiro navio de guerra da Royal Navy a ser perdido em combate desde a Segunda Guerra Mundial.

O relatório da comissão de inquérito sobre a perda do Sheffield, que finalmente foi tornado público, revela os motivos completos por que o navio estava completamente despreparado para o ataque.

A comissão constatou que dois oficiais foram culpados de negligência, mas escaparam dos tribunais marciais e não enfrentaram ações disciplinares, aparentemente para evitar prejudicar a euforia que tomava grande parte do Reino Unido no final da guerra.

Um resumo altamente censurado das descobertas da comissão foi divulgado pelo Ministério da Defesa em 2006, mas a redação do texto escondeu todas as principais conclusões e críticas da comissão, incluindo as constatações de negligência.

Também foi ocultado o alerta da comissão de que havia “deficiências críticas” no equipamento de combate a incêndio, a bordo de destróieres Type 42, como o Sheffield.

Denominado “Secret – UK Eyes Bravo”, o relatório completo e não censurado mostra:

Alguns membros da tripulação estavam “entediados e um pouco frustrados pela inatividade” e o navio não estava “completamente preparado” para um ataque.
O oficial de guerra antiaérea deixou o centro de operações de combate (COC) do navio e estava tomando um café na praça d’Armas quando a Armada Argentina lançou o ataque, enquanto seu assistente também havia deixado o COC para aliviar-se no banheiro.
O radar a bordo do navio que poderia ter detectado o avião de combate Super Étendard se aproximando foi desligado para uma transmissão de satélite para outra embarcação.
Quando um navio próximo, o HMS Glasgow, detectou a aeronave que se aproximava, o principal oficial de guerra no centro de operações do Sheffield não conseguiu reagir, “em parte por inexperiência, mas principalmente por inadequação”.
O oficial de guerra antiaérea foi chamado para o centro de operações de combate, mas não acreditava que o Sheffield estava no alcance da aeronave Super Étendard da Argentina que levava os mísseis.
Quando os mísseis atacantes estavam à vista, os oficiais no passadiço foram “hipnotizados” pela visão e não transmitiram um alerta à tripulação do navio.
A comissão de inquérito descobriu que o erro do oficial de guerra antiaérea foi baseado em sua leitura de uma avaliação de inteligência da ameaça argentina, que havia chegado a bordo em “um calhamaço considerável e assustador” de papel que era difícil de compreender.
Enquanto a tripulação do navio estava ciente da ameaça representada pelos mísseis Exocet, alguns parecem ter pensado que o Sheffield estava além do alcance da aeronave Super Étendard, porque eles desconheciam que os aviões poderiam ser reabastecidos no ar.
A comissão também concluiu que o “infeliz” comandante do Sheffield, o submarinista Sam Salt, e seu imediato, um aviador naval, tinham “pouca ou nenhuma experiência relevante de navio de superfície recente”.

No evento, ninguém chamou o comandante. Seu navio não foi para “postos de combate”, não disparou nenhuma nuvem de chaff na tentativa de desviar os Exocets e não se voltou para os mísseis atacantes, de modo a reduzir o perfil do Sheffield. Além disso, algumas das armas do navio estavam descarregadas e não tripuladas, e nenhuma tentativa foi feita para derrubar os mísseis recebidos.



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Re: LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
« Responder #31 em: Outubro 25, 2017, 03:36:49 pm »
https://www.facebook.com/War1982/


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ARA Guerrico (P-32) (Damaged)
ARA General Belgrano (Sunk)
ARA Santa Fe (S-21) (Damaged later sunk)
ARA Alferez Sobral (A-9) (Damaged)
ARA Isla de los Estados (Sunk)
PNA Islas Malvinas (GC-82) (Captured)
ARA Río Iguazú GC83 (Damaged later sunk)
ARA Narwal (Damaged later sunk)
ELMA Rio Carcarañá (Damaged later sunk)
ARA Bahía Buen Suceso (Damaged later sunk

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Re: LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
« Responder #32 em: Novembro 05, 2017, 02:44:28 pm »
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HMS Coventry (d118)

Lying with her port side buried in the seabed, this is the outline of HMS Coventry, one of three Falklands wrecks surveyed in stunning detail by HMS Enterprise to mark the 35th anniversary of the South Atlantic conflict. The separated remains of HMS Antelope, which lie at a 45-degree angle on the bottom of San Carlos Water, and her sister HMS Ardent, which sank in nearby Grantham Sound after being hit by a succession of bombs, were also scanned by Enterprise and her hi-tech survey launch Spitfire

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Re: LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
« Responder #33 em: Janeiro 09, 2018, 10:34:54 am »
Quando os Argentinos vêm mandar bocas para os fóruns internacionais é bom que vejam isto e pensem:

https://www.facebook.com/War1982/?hc_ref=ARS55i-8wLNt3csL-Ook0Y0knljcNejo95XtKeeIZo8N-IeOLNJU2Zn6zsU71FzkWXI&pnref=story
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Confiscated Argentine equipment

Quantities are approximates:
100 Mercedes-Benz MB 1112/13/14 trucks
20 Unimogs
20 Mercedes-Benz G-Class jeeps
12 Panhard 90mm vehicles
1 SAM Roland launcher
3 SAM Tigercats launchers
1 Improvised Exocet launcher
3 CITER 155mm L33 Guns
>10 Oto Melara 105mm cannons
>15 Oerlikon twins 35 mm and Rheinmetall twin 20 mm air defence cannons
1 AN/TPS-43 3D mobile air search radar
>10 Skyguard, Super Fledermaus and RASIT fire control radars
Blowpipes Manpads
SAM-7 Manpads (bought in late May from Gaddafi's Libya)
14 flyable helicopters (2 Agusta A109, 2 Bell 212, 8 UH-1H, 1 Chinook and 1 Puma)
>10 FMA IA 58 Pucará
1 Aermacchi MB-339
Patrol boat Argentine Coast Guard GC82 Islas Malvinas renamed HMS Tiger Bay
>11,000 personal weapons
>4 million 7.62 munition rounds (10,500 from Goose Green)
>11,000 105mm ammunitions








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Re: LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
« Responder #34 em: Janeiro 16, 2018, 10:35:38 am »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5266965/Falklands-war-hero-surgeon-died-aged-71.html
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Falklands war hero surgeon who was honoured by both British and Argentine authorities has died aged 71

A Royal Navy surgeon who saved the lives of British and Argentine forces during the Falklands conflict has died.

Surgeon Captain Rick Jolly, 71, set up a field hospital in an abandoned refrigeration unit at Ajax bay. Captain Jolly was the senior medical officer of 3 Commando Brigade. Gulf War veteran John Nicholl wrote on Twitter: 'Very sad to hear Surgeon Commander Rick Jolly has died.

'Shared a glass of wine with him on a few occasions; a nicer chap you will not meet. A true hero of 1982 Falklands war; decorated by both sides. 'He should have won the highest award 4 his rescue of 2 drowning sailors. RIP Sir.'

The field hospital was described as The Red and Green Life Machine and treated both British and Argentine casualties.

Following the conflict, Captain Jolly was awarded an OBE by the Queen, while Argentine authorities appointed him to the Order of May for his dedication to their casualties in 1982.



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Re: LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
« Responder #35 em: Fevereiro 01, 2018, 02:23:42 pm »
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/hms-ark-royal-strategic-rather-just-tactical-asset-falklands-war/?utm_source=FB&utm_medium=UKDJPage&utm_campaign=social
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Retaining HMS Ark Royal, an Audacious class aircraft carrier, would have been beneficial in the Falklands War and perhaps even prevented it.

Having another capital ship, which was an Audacious class aircraft carrier equipped with McDonnell Douglas Phantom FG.1 alongside Blackburn Buccaneers, would have been a huge asset, and potentially could have made a difference in the Falklands War and perhaps even have prevented it.

I think the simple answer to the headline is yes, as there would have been greater air cover and range to protect the ships in the fleet, with Argentina well aware of this fact they may not have invaded.

This is very much a what if question, that has possibly been posed by other scholars. The Royal Navy was in a middle of another round of defence cuts which would have meant some of the capital ships including HMS Invincible would have been sold. 

Interesting when you look into the political and strategic aspects that as early as 1966, the UK Defence White Paper had planned to scrap the British Aircraft carriers in the early 1970s, leaving Britain without an aircraft carrier capability.  However, a new government reexamined the case and found that only shore-based aircraft was not sufficient to provide the defence needs of our global interests which were ‘East of the Suez’.

Sadly, the political issue of saving money in spite of our defence needs was one which led to the ultimate decision to scrap Ark Royal, without a replacement fixed-wing aircraft carrier to fulfill her role and functions. It is worth noting that HMS Ark Royal, did have a sister ship in its line Audacious–class aircraft carrier’s that was HMS Eagle.

The ship entered HMNB Devonport, and was subsequently decommissioned on the 14th February 1979. Finally, the scrapping of HMS Ark Royal took place in 1980, and this marked an end to the Royal Navy’s ability to project conventional fixed-wing air-power. However, another interesting fact was that breaking up of Ark Royal took until 1983.

A question remains, could she have been brought back to service on time?

During its last tour of duty, the aircraft complement of the Ark Royal was as follows: 14 Buccaneer S2s, 12 Phantom FG1s, 4 Gannet AEW3, 1 Gannet COD4, 7 Sea king, and 2 Wessex helicopters. This is quite something and definitely would have been an effective deterrent.

During its history, while HMS Ark Royal underwent many refits and innovations, it did suffer from technical issues due to the age of the vessel as it was built in 1944. However, sadly the aircraft carriers which replaced her were not able to be equipped with traditional aircraft. It is one of those what-if scenarios that can be debated, would it have stopped the war?

There were also plans to sell the Australians the HMS Invincible, but after the Falklands war, and the government seeing the utility of this ship it was decided to cancel to sale. This is the case of accountancy over strategic necessity. This ship was invaluable during the Falklands conflict and should not be forgotten in its role as a key capital ship.

This is seen in the case of the Centaur class aircraft carrier HMS Hermes which did see successful action in the Falklands, and it could arguably be the case, that its very survival along with the HMS Invincible was the reason the War in the Falklands was victorious for the British. HMS Hermes, was converted to a helicopter carrier, and then to a vertical take-off and landing aircraft carrier – suitable for the Harrier jump jets which were invaluable to military efforts during the Falklands War.

My argument here is that with the ability to launch fixed-wing aircraft which HMS Ark Royal would have been able to, would have shifted the balance of power more favorably to the British Royal Navy, and provided even greater aircover while possibly deterring the war in the first place. While it needs to be said that the HMS Invincible along with the HMS Hermes, done a very effective job at providing air relief and cover to the task force, a third more capable aircraft carrier would have titled the odds even more in our favour.

It was a mistake for the Ministry of Defence, despite the technical and mechanical difficulties which beset HMS Ark Royal, to have scrapped her unnecessarily.


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Re: LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
« Responder #36 em: Fevereiro 11, 2018, 12:33:28 pm »
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A fim de esclarecer as informações publicadas por um portal e reproduzidas por outros meios de comunicação, a ARMADA ARGENTINA informa que:

Em conformidade com o seu mandato constitucional e outras leis relativas à sua principal missão e como membro do Instrumento Militar da Nação, realiza permanentemente a vigilância e o controle das áreas marítimas de jurisdição e interesse, como é o caso da zona econômica exclusiva ( ZEE) ou a área adjacente a ele.

Por esta razão, afirma categoricamente que as unidades da Marinha realizam operações de Vigilância e Controle rotineiramente em defesa de interesses nacionais.

A ordem das operações Nro.04 / 2017, de 24 de outubro de 2017, do comandante da Força Submarina, correspondente à última navegação do submarino San Juan, referenciada em um portal digital nas últimas horas, contempladas como tarefas, participando da treinamento naval integrado, realizar uma patrulha de exploração e executar operações de vigilância e controle do mar.

Em relação à nota publicada na data da data:

A Marinha notifica, de acordo com o texto da Ordem nº 04/17, que é absolutamente incorreto que o Submarino de San Juan em sua última navegação, obtenha um reconhecimento preciso e obtenha a localização, identificação, registro fotográfico / fílmico dos navios ingleses " BP CFL HUNTER ", o" HMS CLYDE "e o" FPV PROTEGAT ", bem como" AIRCRAFT RAF 130 E AERONAVES GOVERNO DE MALVINAS "na área de patrulha" Juliana ".

Consequentemente:

É obrigatório informar ao público que está incorreto que o submarino San Juan tenha realizado espionagem, sim Controle e Vigilância Marítima dos espaços marítimos de interesse, tanto dentro de nossa ZEE quanto em Áreas Adjacentes de Interesse Nacional.

A tarefa de observação e inteligência nas águas de jurisdição, nunca constitui um ato de espionagem.

Informações imprecisas ou incorretas, como a publicada, afetam a sensibilidade dos parentes dos nossos 44 membros da equipe, que estão atravessando momentos de tremenda dor e horas de intensa dor e angústia.



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Re: LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
« Responder #37 em: Abril 03, 2018, 12:38:17 pm »
Foi o principio do fim da Junta Militar Argentina (menos de 2 meses depois já eram dos Bifes outra vez).  ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/2/newsid_2520000/2520879.stm 

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1982: Argentina invades Falklands
Argentina has invaded the British territory of the Falkland Islands in the south Atlantic.
The islands, off the coast of Argentina, have been a cause of friction between the two countries since Britain claimed them in 1833.

The Argentine flag is now flying over Government House in the Falkland Islands' capital, Port Stanley.

The head of the country's military junta, General Leopoldo Galtieri, has welcomed the "recovery" of "Las Malvinas" - the Argentine name for the Falklands.

General Galtieri said Argentina had been left with no option other than military action.

The invasion followed months of sabre-rattling and a build-up over the past few days of Argentine war ships off the Falkland Islands, home to about 1,800 people.

'Unprepared'

At 0600 on Friday Argentina began "Operation Rosario" when a unit of Argentine troops landed near Port Stanley.

The leader of the Argentine forces, Admiral Jorge Anaya, had contacted the Falklands' governor, Rex Hunt, to appeal for a peaceful surrender.

But the request was rejected and the 80 members of the Royal Marine regiment stationed on the island and 20 locals were mobilised.

But by early afternoon they were vastly outnumbered by about 3,000 Argentine troops.

After an attack on Government House during which one Argentine soldier is said to have been killed, Rex Hunt ordered the British troops to surrender.

No Falkland Islanders or Royal Marines died in the fighting though one serviceman is reported to be badly wounded.

The British Government has cut diplomatic ties with Argentina and started to assemble a large naval taskforce to reclaim the islands.

Questions are being asked as to why the government was so unprepared given two recent "invasions" by Argentine civilians of another British territory in the region.

In the latest incident in March they planted a flag on South Georgia, an uninhabited island 800 miles (1287 kilometres) north east of the Falklands.


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Re: LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
« Responder #39 em: Abril 19, 2018, 09:43:08 pm »
O que os Argies chamaram e chamam aos Bifes por terem abatido um C130H...  ::)


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Um C-130 argentino armado com bombas durante o conflito das Malvinas.

http://sistemasdearmas.com.br/ca/macx04ac.html

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Re: LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
« Responder #40 em: Maio 05, 2018, 09:40:10 am »
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Argentine Coast Guard Short SC.7 Skyvan

two Skyvans of the Argentine Naval Prefecture participated in the Falklands War. Both aircraft were ferried to Port Stanley in April 1982. One aircraft was damaged by British naval gunfire on Stanley racecourse, and did not fly again; it was finally destroyed by shellfire during British bombardments on 12/13 June 1982. The second aircraft was used at Pebble Island, where it became bogged down in the soft ground, and on 15 May 1982 it was destroyed in a British assault During the SAS Raid on Pebble Island

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Re: LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
« Responder #41 em: Maio 20, 2018, 10:40:21 am »
https://www.taringa.net/gty2/mi/ZY87O

Qual Líbia qual carapuça...  ;D



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Ingenio argentino en Malvinas, lanzacohetes LAU 60 de 19 FFAR de 2,75 montado en un trailer, lamentablemente nunca pudo ser usado.

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Re: LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
« Responder #42 em: Julho 18, 2018, 03:10:59 pm »


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« Responder #43 em: Outubro 10, 2018, 11:47:19 am »
E continua...  ::) :P

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/10/10/argentina-lodges-formal-protest-britains-military-exercises/

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Argentina has made a formal protest with the British embassy in Buenos Aires to reject Britain’s military exercises in the Falkland Islands, the foreign ministry said on Tuesday.

Buenos Aires has "taken notice" that these exercises will take place from October 15-29 and will include missile launches, the ministry said in a statement.

"Argentina rejects the holding of these exercises in Argentine territory illegally occupied by the United Kingdom," it said.

The ministry added that the United Nations and other international bodies have urged both countries to resume negotiations for "a peaceful and definitive solution to the sovereignty dispute."

Argentina made a similar protest two years ago and Britain argued that the exercises were routine.

The latest complaint comes after President Mauricio Macri warned Argentines late last month that they face painful months ahead after his government pledged tough austerity measures to meet the terms of an enlarged crisis loan from the International Monetary Fund.



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