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Re: Royal Navy
« Responder #255 em: Setembro 02, 2016, 09:59:56 am »
http://www.naval.com.br/blog/2016/09/01/lancamento-do-hms-forth-primeiro-opv-classe-river-batch-ii/
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O futuro HMS Forth, o primeiro da nova classe “River” Batch II de navios-patrulha oceânicos (OPV – Offshore Patrol Vessel) da Royal Navy, foi lançado em 13 de agosto e depois movido para Scotstoun, para os acabamentos finais e testes de mar. A classe será composta por quatro navios. Esta classe é semelhante à “Amazonas” da Marinha do Brasil.

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Re: Royal Navy
« Responder #256 em: Setembro 02, 2016, 03:06:54 pm »


Four modern River class OPVs to be decommissioned

HMS Severn on patrol on UK territorial waters

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/post-sdsr-optimism-disappears-over-the-horizon/

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5. The SDSR 2015 made it clear that the 'Batch 1' River class HMS Tyne, Severn and Mersey would be decommissioned to be replaced by very similar new Batch 2 River class OPVS currently being built in Glasgow.  The Batch 1 were all commissioned in 2003 and will have only served in the RN for around 15 years. It is a dismal waste to decommission these relatively modern vessels when they have plenty of life in them and we are so short of hulls. With a crew of just 30 and an annual running cost of around £20M, it is pitiful that we cannot afford to retain them in some role. (More detailed discussion here ). Furthermore it is now clear Falklands patrol vessel HMS Clyde, only commissioned in 2007, will also be retired and replaced by a new vessel.   (..)

Of course these ships will make very attractive second-hand purchases for overseas navies and the temptation to flog them off will probably be too much for the Treasury.
 
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Re: Royal Navy
« Responder #257 em: Setembro 02, 2016, 04:15:38 pm »


Four modern River class OPVs to be decommissioned

HMS Severn on patrol on UK territorial waters

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/post-sdsr-optimism-disappears-over-the-horizon/

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5. The SDSR 2015 made it clear that the 'Batch 1' River class HMS Tyne, Severn and Mersey would be decommissioned to be replaced by very similar new Batch 2 River class OPVS currently being built in Glasgow.  The Batch 1 were all commissioned in 2003 and will have only served in the RN for around 15 years. It is a dismal waste to decommission these relatively modern vessels when they have plenty of life in them and we are so short of hulls. With a crew of just 30 and an annual running cost of around £20M, it is pitiful that we cannot afford to retain them in some role. (More detailed discussion here ). Furthermore it is now clear Falklands patrol vessel HMS Clyde, only commissioned in 2007, will also be retired and replaced by a new vessel.   (..)

Of course these ships will make very attractive second-hand purchases for overseas navies and the temptation to flog them off will probably be too much for the Treasury.
Lá vai Portugal e encerra-se a questão do NPO 2000 (por 77 milhões devem trazer os 4 e ainda mais qualquer coisa)...  8) :o

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Re: Royal Navy os novos OPV
« Responder #258 em: Setembro 02, 2016, 05:51:22 pm »


Four modern River class OPVs to be decommissioned

HMS Severn on patrol on UK territorial waters

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/post-sdsr-optimism-disappears-over-the-horizon/

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5. The SDSR 2015 made it clear that the 'Batch 1' River class HMS Tyne, Severn and Mersey would be decommissioned to be replaced by very similar new Batch 2 River class OPVS currently being built in Glasgow.  The Batch 1 were all commissioned in 2003 and will have only served in the RN for around 15 years. It is a dismal waste to decommission these relatively modern vessels when they have plenty of life in them and we are so short of hulls. With a crew of just 30 and an annual running cost of around £20M, it is pitiful that we cannot afford to retain them in some role. (More detailed discussion here ). Furthermore it is now clear Falklands patrol vessel HMS Clyde, only commissioned in 2007, will also be retired and replaced by a new vessel.   (..)

Of course these ships will make very attractive second-hand purchases for overseas navies and the temptation to flog them off will probably be too much for the Treasury.
Lá vai Portugal e encerra-se a questão do NPO 2000 (por 77 milhões devem trazer os 4 e ainda mais qualquer coisa)...  8) :o

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Se os adquirir-mos lá temos mais do mesmo como os Viana do Castelo ou seja, mas vá-se lá saber o que vai naquelas cabecinhas pensadoras:

.................Lack of hangar – a critical weakness

If we remain optimistic and assume that the new OPVs will be additions to the fleet rather than just replacements, then the design of these ships represents a major missed opportunity. If these ships were designed with a hangar their potential for overseas service would be transformed. Although the new ships will have a flight deck, it is not practical to embark a helicopter for an extended period without the protection and facilities for maintenance that a hanger provides. A helicopter gives a warship a quantum leap in the speed at which it can respond to events as well as its offensive capability. In a more serious conflict a helicopter can help mitigate for the OPVs light armament. (Virtually unarmed patrol ship HMS Endurance was able to by send her helicopters into action in the Falklands/South Georgia operation of 1982). The Amazonas design provides space for 2 standard (20ft) TEU shipping containers to be lashed to the deck and one these could perhaps be used as a shelter for a small UAV.

Even with the best radar and sensor fit, a surface ship can only survey a fraction of the area that airborne assets can cover. There are plenty of OPV designs that include a hangar and are comparable to the BAE design, potentially offering the RN a far more powerful and flexible ship. If we had used one of these designs as a starting point instead of the ‘bare bones’ Amazonas, it would not have cost much to make minor changes to suit RN needs.........



http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/hms-severn-deploys-to-the-caribbean/#OPV2

Olha que estás enganado, :nice: :nice: :nice: pois seguindo os critérios de orçamentos para aquisições de equipamentos para as FFAA, o actual MDN só deverá atribuir 20 milhões para aquisição dos ditos, :G-clever: :G-clever: :G-clever: :G-clever: :G-clever: :G-clever:
Aposto que quem fica com eles é o BRASIL, e faz muito bem fica com seis unidades idênticas!

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Re: Royal Navy
« Responder #260 em: Setembro 02, 2016, 07:41:59 pm »
Resumindo: os bifes vão fazendo encomendas (por motivos contratuais), de forma a manter os estaleiros activos, mas como a RN não tem pessoal para guarnecer os novos navios, desfazem-se de navios relativamente novos e assim já há guarnições  suficientes.
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Re: Royal Navy
« Responder #261 em: Setembro 02, 2016, 07:45:02 pm »


Four modern River class OPVs to be decommissioned

HMS Severn on patrol on UK territorial waters

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/post-sdsr-optimism-disappears-over-the-horizon/

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5. The SDSR 2015 made it clear that the 'Batch 1' River class HMS Tyne, Severn and Mersey would be decommissioned to be replaced by very similar new Batch 2 River class OPVS currently being built in Glasgow.  The Batch 1 were all commissioned in 2003 and will have only served in the RN for around 15 years. It is a dismal waste to decommission these relatively modern vessels when they have plenty of life in them and we are so short of hulls. With a crew of just 30 and an annual running cost of around £20M, it is pitiful that we cannot afford to retain them in some role. (More detailed discussion here ). Furthermore it is now clear Falklands patrol vessel HMS Clyde, only commissioned in 2007, will also be retired and replaced by a new vessel.   (..)

Of course these ships will make very attractive second-hand purchases for overseas navies and the temptation to flog them off will probably be too much for the Treasury.
Lá vai Portugal e encerra-se a questão do NPO 2000 (por 77 milhões devem trazer os 4 e ainda mais qualquer coisa)...  8) :o

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Re: Royal Navy os novos OPV
« Responder #262 em: Setembro 02, 2016, 08:28:20 pm »
Resumindo: os bifes vão fazendo encomendas (por motivos contratuais), de forma a manter os estaleiros activos, mas como a RN não tem pessoal para guarnecer os novos navios, desfazem-se de navios relativamente novos e assim já há guarnições  suficientes.

E pergunto eu, com negócios deste género quem fica a ganhar ???
E quem paga estes negócios ruinosos para o estado Britânico ???

O que tenho lido com os custos dos novos OPV da RN, é aflitivo, derrapagens atrás de derrapagens em Navios muitíssimo caros, pelo menos o dobro de um Classe Viana do Castelo, o mesmo armamento principal, sensivelmente o mesmo deslocamento e autonomia e guarnição e a  mesma limitação no que concerne a operar com Heli orgânico, sem hangar . Traineira por traineira a nossa é bem mais barata !!!!





Se tivéssemos oferecido à RN o nosso projecto que é bem mais barato, também não deveria ter ganho.......quanto mais caro o Navio é mais se pode roubar, não é SÓ cá no burgo que isso acontece !!!

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Re: Royal Navy
« Responder #263 em: Setembro 03, 2016, 01:17:09 pm »


HMS Forth

Exclusive interview: Junior Defence Procurement Minister opens up about his shipbuilding heartbreak

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/exclusive-interview-junior-defence-procurement-minister-opens-up-about-his-shipbuilding-heartbreak/

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Question (...) so how much will building HMS Forth cost?

Answer:  HMS Forth will cost £116 Million, Britain can be proud that the Royal Navy will own the most expensive OPV in the world
 

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Re: Royal Navy os novos OPV
« Responder #264 em: Setembro 03, 2016, 01:24:30 pm »


HMS Forth

Exclusive interview: Junior Defence Procurement Minister opens up about his shipbuilding heartbreak

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/exclusive-interview-junior-defence-procurement-minister-opens-up-about-his-shipbuilding-heartbreak/

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Question (...) so how much will building HMS Forth cost?

Answer:  HMS Forth will cost £116 Million, Britain can be proud that the Royal Navy will own the most expensive OPV in the world

Muito bom, com estes £ 116M que correspondem a cerca de € 140 M tínhamos verba para comprar três Viana do Castelo e ainda sobrava para comprar três OM 76mm para as Vasco da Gama !
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Re: Royal Navy os novos OPV
« Responder #265 em: Setembro 03, 2016, 06:35:45 pm »


HMS Forth

Exclusive interview: Junior Defence Procurement Minister opens up about his shipbuilding heartbreak

http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/exclusive-interview-junior-defence-procurement-minister-opens-up-about-his-shipbuilding-heartbreak/

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Question (...) so how much will building HMS Forth cost?

Answer:  HMS Forth will cost £116 Million, Britain can be proud that the Royal Navy will own the most expensive OPV in the world

Muito bom, com estes £ 116M que correspondem a cerca de € 130 M tínhamos verba para comprar três Viana do Castelo e ainda sobrava para comprar três OM 76mm para as Vasco da Gama !
Fonix. 130 milhões por este OPV. Só pode ter os cagatórios em ouro maçiço.   ;)  Os "desvios" do NPO2000 ao pé deste é uma brincadeira de crianças, mas depois a culpa é dos migrantes para justificar o brexit. Serve que nem uma luva por exemplo para senhores como estes continuarem a "financiar-se" sem restrições da UE, ou seja a roubarem à vontade...  ::) :P :o ;D

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Re: Royal Navy Type 31 Frigate
« Responder #266 em: Setembro 27, 2016, 05:05:57 pm »
BMT Defence Services offering to the Type 31 Frigate programme, the Venator-110, is emerging as the most serious contender, let’s take a look.

As announced in the Strategic Defence & Security Review, the government intends to launch a concept study and then design and build a new class of future light frigates to complement eight Type 26 Frigates.



 
While it was previously expected that the “five lighter frigates” mentioned in November would be heavily stripped down general purpose variants of the Type 26 Frigate, other contenders seem to be emerging.

The Joint Requirements Oversight Committee is expected to determine the top-level capability for the new General Purpose Frigate soon and there is an expectation that the requirement will be met by an off-the-shelf design.

One of the most obvious contenders for the programme is an offering from BMT, the Venator-110.

There are three variants of the Venator-110, each designed to suit specific roles and levels of affordability. The three variants are the ‘General Purpose Light Frigate’, the ‘Patrol Frigate’ and the much lighter ‘Patrol Ship’.

The General Purpose Light Frigate variant is, clearly, designed to meet the expected requirements of the Type 31 Frigate programme.

The design is billed by BMT as the “optimum balance between capability, survivability and cost“.

With an estimated displacement of 4,000 tonnes, a top speed in excess of 25 knots and accommodation for over 115 personnel in addition to a crew size of 85 personnel the craft is “designed to cover a multitude of general purpose and specialist roles”.


IMAGE: BMT Defence Services

BMT also describe the vessel as being intended to counter the recent problems the Royal Navy have had with regards to ships becoming ever more expensive and complicated, resulting in fewer of them ever being built:

“The overriding design intent behind Venator-110 is to blend a lean manned and adaptable capability with an affordable procurement cost, within the dimensions of a Light Frigate.

This intent, facilitated by a ‘Middle Out’ design philosophy, is essential to avoid the spiral of escalating platform requirements that can result in ever larger and more expensive warships.”

With a range in excess of 7,000nm augmented by replenishment at sea, the ship can reach and maintain a presence in an area of operations anywhere around the globe.

In April this year, BMT’s Venator-110 hullform started hydrodynamic testing at QinetiQ’s Haslar facility.

Weapons

The Vertical Launch Silos on the vessel will cater for a range of missiles and decoys, including the quad-packed Sea Ceptor missile that will arm the Type 26 frigates.

In addition, the vessel can also be fitted with automated 30mm cannons, heavy machine guns, soft-kill systems, anti surface and anti-submarine weaponry.

The design of the vessel presents a tailorable choice of Vertical Launch Silo (VLS) configurations, ranging from 24 missiles in two 3-cell silos to 48 missiles in four 3-cell silos or even 24 missiles in two 3-cell silos in addition to an 8 cell strike length silo.

Images below via BMT show a few examples of how the vessel could be configured.









With regards to the gun system, the design can support a medium calibre gun system including 57mm, 76mm, 114mm and 127mm calibres in addition to various general purpose machine guns and soft-kill defences.

There is currently little information on the sensors the vessel may carry.

Manning & Survivability

With the perceived manpower shortage in the fleet, the manning levels of any solution to the Type 31 requirement will be a key factor.

In what BMT describe as its ‘lean manned’ form the vessel is capable of maintaining a routine operational capability found on most warships.

Figures suggest that even in the full combat configuration, the core crew would consist of 85 personnel, capable of maintaining 24 hour operations.

BMT has conducted a series of simulations with this core crew. This reportedly included warfighting scenarios such as Naval Gunfire Support operations in addition to simultaneous internal firefighting, the simulations validated the figure.

Interestingly, the option to forward position the ship, allowing the crew to rotate while the ship stays deployed (much like what’s currently done with the MCM fleet) is made more practical by the lean nature of the core crew.


BMT’s Venator-110 future frigate offering breaking away from a Tide class tanker and Queen Elizabeth class carrier.

Forward basing in this manner may be considered for the class.

The information regarding plans for the Type 31 being based abroad came to light in a speech by Admiral Sir Philip Jones, First Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Staff, delivered the Lord Mayor of London’s annual Defence and Security lecture in Mansion House.

“Given our long standing defence relationships in the Middle East, it is certain that a Royal Navy task group – centred on a Queen Elizabeth-class carrier – will regularly deploy East of Suez.

And it will be perfectly possible, should we wish, for Type 31 frigates to permanently operate from the Gulf region or from Asia-Pacific in the decades ahead.

These are examples of what we COULD do and not yet policy, and I am never complacent about the challenges we continue to face in recruiting and retaining the very best men and women in a competitive employment market.”

Survivability is a key factor throughout the design of the vessel, especially when it comes to propulsion.

Separated main engine spaces each containing two independent prime movers and two independent shafts feature in order to increase the chance the vessel can maintain propulsion even following major damage from hostile action.

The Venator-110 design adopts a Combined Diesel And Diesel (CODAD) configuration and features two shafts combined with four prime movers.

The design uses off the shelf equipment, which BMT say ensures simple maintenance procedures and leaves room for future capability growth while requiring minimum levels of personnel to operate.

Where would the vessels be built?

The Prime Minister at the time at the Strategic Defence & Security Review, David Cameron, confirmed that the five future light frigates mentioned in the defence review will be built in Scotland.

This is in addition to the eight anti-submarine warfare frigates and two extra patrol vessels on top of the three already being constructed at the Glasgow yards.

David Cameron told the House of Commons:

“There will be eight of the Type 26’s and at least another five of the new type of frigate, probably more, and they can be built in Scotland if the conditions are right. The only way these ships wouldn’t be built in Scotland is if Scotland was independent and didn’t have the national resources of the Royal Navy.”

Mr Cameron also told the Commons that the new class of frigates would be “more affordable than the Type 26 which will allow us to buy more of them for the Royal Navy so that by the 2030’s we can further increase the total number of Royal Navy frigates and destroyers.”

Summary

The Venator-110 design by BMT represents perhaps the most practical solution to the future light frigate needs of the Royal Navy, the product emphasises a few of the most used buzzwords on frigate design, namely affordability, modularity and survivability while still seemingly being able to fulfil a war-fighting role.

The robust and flexible baseline design of the vessel would appear to allow a range of roles and capabilities to be developed over the service life of the vessel, what’s called ‘future proofing’. This capability allows the ship to be adapted to a role with much less effort than some other designs.

We can only hope for “at least” five of them.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/venator-110-britains-future-light-frigate/
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Re: Royal Navy
« Responder #267 em: Outubro 01, 2016, 07:32:49 pm »


Impression of how the UK's new nuclear submarines may look

Building to start on new nuclear submarines as government announces  £1.3 billion investment

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/building-to-start-on-new-nuclear-submarines-as-government-announces-13-billion-investment

(..) As part of our £178 billion equipment plan, the programme will be supported by a defence budget that will rises every year until the end of the decade, meeting the NATO commitment to spend two per cent of GDP on defence .

Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said:

• "Britain's ballistic missile submarines are the ultimate guarantee of our nation's safety - we use them every day to deter the most extreme threats.

• We cannot know what new dangers we might face in the 2030s, 2040s and 2050s so we are acting now to replace them.

• Along with increasing the defence budget to buy new ships, planes and armoured vehicles, this shows that this government will never gamberro with our national security."

The investment will support delivery of the manifesto commitment on which this Government was elected, to retain the Trident-based continuous at sea deterrent -the ultimate guarantee of our safety- and build the new fleet of four Successor Ballistic Missile submarines (...)
 

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« Responder #268 em: Outubro 04, 2016, 09:42:26 pm »
HMS Westminster first Type 23 frigate to complete life extension upgrade


Photo: BAE Systems

Work on upgrades to the Royal Navy’s Portsmouth-based Type 23 frigate, HMS Westminster, have been completed at Portsmouth Naval Base, UK.

The multi-million pound refit on the 24-year-old Duke Class frigate has followed several busy years of deployments across the globe and includes upgrades to weapons and marine systems that will enhance her warfighting capabilities for years ahead.

The improvements to HMS Westminster include the installation of BAE Systems’ Artisan 3D radar, which can monitor more than 800 objects simultaneously from 200 to 200,000 meters away and the Sea-Ceptor air defense weapon system, which will protect against aerial threats.

She has also been installed with a refurbished 4.5 inch MK8 naval gun, which can fire up to two dozen high explosive shells per minute to combat surface, aircraft and shore targets. Additionally, HMS Westminster’s hull has received a coat of anti-fouling paint, providing protection from algae and marine organism growth on operations.

Structural improvements include replacing the bridge, upgrading the galley and refurbishing mess decks and communal areas for the ship’s company, who recently moved back on board.

HMS Westminster will now undergo a series of harbor-based and sea trials ahead of an anticipated return to service in spring 2017.

Richard Dingley, BAE Systems Maritime Services, said: “HMS Westminster’s upkeep program confirms the company’s ship support capabilities and sustains the Royal Navy’s desire for the long term availability of their ships. We are continuing to deliver support to more than half of the Royal Navy’s surface fleet. This includes technical services, training solutions and modernization programs, as well as maintenance, repair and upgrades to ships and equipment. Our attention will now focus on returning to the fleet as an operational warship next year.”

The image below, provided by BAE Systems, illustrates the upgrades HMS Westminster received during her refit.


hms-westminster-first-type-23-frigate-to-complete-life-extension-upgrade-1

https://navaltoday.com/2016/10/04/hms-westminster-first-type-23-frigate-to-complete-life-extension-upgrade/

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« Responder #269 em: Outubro 09, 2016, 03:53:08 pm »
 Royal Navy ship that has had £29million worth of refits now axed four years early

    21:27, 6 Oct 2016

RFA Diligence is the only vessel dedicated to repairing stricken Navy boats and submarines at sea


 Naval chiefs planned to use RFA Diligence until 2020 but she will go on sale soon

A Royal Navy support ship that underwent almost £29m worth of refits in the last three years is being axed four years early.

RFA Diligence, the only vessel dedicated to repairing stricken Navy boats and submarines at sea, is being sold in the latest cost-cutting Tory move.

Major revamps were carried out from June 2012 to February 2013 and from September 2014 to February 2015, costing £17.6m and £11m respectively.

Naval chiefs planned to keep her in service until 2020.

But the 10,595-tonne vessel will be withdrawn before the end of this year.

Defence Minster Earl Howe admitted in a parliamentary answer: “Taking into account Diligence's age and increasing obsolescence, it was concluded that retaining her in service would no longer represent good value for money to the taxpayer and the decision was taken to retire her early.”

Former Head of the Navy, Admiral Lord West, branded it ‘a debacle’.

He said: “It’s a waste.

“The first refit was done to extend her life to 2020, that was the whole point.

“The next refit was done because there were certain regulations that had to be complied with.

“When you add the two together, that’s quite a lot of money.

“There is insufficient money in the defence programme, and particularly the Navy programme, to run the things that should be being run.

“That’s why things are being squeezed.”

The former Security Minister feared RFA Argus, the hospital ship sent to West Africa in 2014 to help ebola relief, could also be sold or scrapped.

He said: “I think it’s quite likely we will find that will go too.”

The peer raised wider concerns about the Navy, with the six £1bn Type 45 destroyers needing vital engine replacements and ongoing delays to the Type 26 frigate projects.

Just eight vessels will replace the existing Type 23 frigates, with vague plans for five ‘lighter frigates’.

Lord West said: “There are real problems for the Naval programme and ensuring it is being properly funded and developed – and Diligence is part of that.

“I don’t think they intend to run down the Navy, but because of lack of funding that is effectively what’s happening.”

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